[quote=808;16739638]Guys, I need something like Ableton only less complicated.[/quote]

Try VSTHost. There's a minor learning curve (though I believe you now get a pretty decent manual), but you can get similar types of results with it assuming you know of a few good VSTi's.

**EDIT**

Also something I just thought about are any number of freeware trackers available, though they're [I]much[/I] less intuitive than most.

Frieve Music Studio Producer (I think that's the free one) also has a pretty good feature set for free that might be good with live performance and composing in real-time.

Have the fun is learning to use things, 808.

I just found out that Wave Arts has free downloads for some of the older versions of their plug-ins. I haven't checked them out yet. For windows they have a multi-band compressor and a Limiter that seems rather useful (I use the Classic Master Limiter, which only has threshold control, it automatically sets max volume to -.02. This plug has threshold, max volume, AND dithering controls, which is nice, as well as some release options).

Link?

Er, google Wave Arts and hit their download page?

[url]http://wavearts.com/downloads/[/url]

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seafroggys, i like wavearts too :)

Yeah I'm really liking their FinalPlug. And its funny, this is an ancient version from like 2002! Works great though, more versatile than the Classic Limiter and I think it sounds a tiny bit better as well. The Dithering is the best part though.

Haven't used the Multi-band compressor, mainly because I don't use them.

awesome, i haven't used it yet but now i'm excited to. i don't know too much about multiband compressors yet so i wouldn't know if i like or dislike them..

Okay, I lied, I guess the FinalPlug was a 30 day demo, despite the fact that its an ancient version and I swear it said it was freeware on their website. Now its back to Classic Limiter......oh well.

Anyway, the new Electric-Q version seems to work on my computer now, and its freaking rad! Beats the ReaEQ, especially on high shelf which I use for my cymbals.

[QUOTE=Seafroggys;16934630]Okay, I lied, I guess the FinalPlug was a 30 day demo, despite the fact that its an ancient version and I swear it said it was freeware on their website. Now its back to Classic Limiter......oh well.[/QUOTE]

That's pretty lame, the site definitely said it was free

[url]http://www.meldaproduction.com/freevstplugins/mcompressor.php[/url]

A set of free plug-ins. I have only tried the MCompressor, but it looks to be a killer contender for the Classic Compressor. I prefer Classic's ease of use, and I like the 'warmth' it adds, but I needed something more transparent for a rhythm guitar track I was mixing, and MCompressor seems to handle that well.

i LOVE reaper. ever since i've been introduced to it i am a devote reaper fan. I use hydrogen a lot too. its really good software.

Reaper is really quite good.. Especially considering the price ;)

[quote=Knifeboy;17108120]Reaper is really quite good.. [B]Especially considering the price[/B] ;)[/quote]

Disagreed. Remember that you need to consider what Reaper is actually offered for. Reaper has an unenforced trial period, but you are required to purchase a license after that trial has ended. For commercial use, Reaper is $225 for a feature set that's comparable to the middle-tier DAW software packages.

Both Sonar 8 Studio and Cubase 5 Studio are only $300, Tracktion 3 Ultimate is $250. Adobe Audition 3 is relatively steep by comparison at $350, but you have to remember that Audition only comes in the "full" option. All of those have distinct advantages/disadvantages when compared to Reaper, just like any software.

Once you move away from the "big name" DAW software packages and into the lesser known ranks (where Reaper really should be considered), Reaper seems downright overpriced:

energyXT is less than $200 (after conversion from the Euro), MU.Tools 2 is less than $150 (after conversion from the Euro), n-track Studio 6 is only $64, and Bram Bos' Tunafish 2 is only $30.

You're the only one I have ever seen that thinks Reaper is overpriced. All the forums I venture love it, especially Homerecording.com

[quote=Seafroggys;17108836]You're the only one I have ever seen that thinks Reaper is overpriced. All the forums I venture love it, especially Homerecording.com[/quote]

I didn't say it's overpriced. It's a pretty fair price. But that's all. I just think there's a lot of credit given to it as "free"/"cheap" software, when in reality it's neither.

You have to remember that before version 1 it was completely free. At that point it was in position to completely corner its market (free software) because of its feature set.

Instead, it entered at a middle-tier price in a saturated market. In my opinion, it's got a pretty good feature set, but nothing that completely blows away Sonar/Cubase/eXT for most users. If it didn't have the distinction between commercial and non-commercial licenses, then maybe it'd be a different story.

[QUOTE=Moseph;17108853]I didn't say it's overpriced.[/QUOTE]

[quote]Once you move away from the "big name" DAW software packages and into the lesser known ranks (where Reaper really should be considered), Reaper seems downright overpriced:[/quote]

;)

I'm probably gonna get Reaper. I was set on Cubase Studio but the dongle turned me off. Plus their ethics and philosophy about everything seem to be more in line with mine.

[quote=Seafroggys;17108899];)[/quote]

Yeah, but note the language: "seems" doesn't equate with "is" :smash:.

What I was really getting at is that the price is not Reaper's strongest selling point. On the contrary, I'd say it's the largest off-putting aspect of Reaper.

More to the point, I don't come into your threads and make you look like a total jackass, do I? :)

[QUOTE=Moseph;17108706]Disagreed. Remember that you need to consider what Reaper is actually offered for.[/QUOTE]

Well i was obviously only referring to reaper 0.999 :p

[QUOTE=ygokazuki;15409624]Hey, you should update this thread...REAPER's at 2.002 and kicking some serious ***. Cubase? Sonar? Pro Tools? Who needs em? :)[/QUOTE]

well REAPER is ok but if you wanna get serious about recording and even electronic music production you would wanna invest in a good pay-for package like Ableton Live or Cubase or Logic or Pro Tools or one of these such packages.

Although they aren't always cheap they sure as heck are worth it and the freeware just doesn't compare.

As much as i love freeware and use as much freeware as possible, once you wanna start getting serious with recordings and your tracks, its time to start saving up. :)

This is very great thead.....someone needs to throw together one for Mac....wink wink wink:naughty:

[quote=joe_04_04;17395500]This is very great thead.....someone needs to throw together one for Mac....wink wink wink:naughty:[/quote]

If you're volunteering, by all means feel free to put together your own series of threads.

If somebody wanted to do the same for Linux, that'd be pretty cool as well.

[QUOTE=Moseph;17395941]If you're volunteering, by all means feel free to put together your own series of threads.

If somebody wanted to do the same for Linux, that'd be pretty cool as well.[/QUOTE]

Yessir, that sure would be sweet. I probably should make one, I'm just afraid I'm going to find one and it will really be a huge virus and everyone will be mad at me.:rolleyes:

Audacity and Hydrogen now are able to be used with Macs. Which is nice. :)

http://www.samplerchan.com/
I'm just questioning the tuner on this it is vst but I'm not sure how good it is, having no real reference

[quote=Cramboli;17703385]http://www.samplerchan.com/
I'm just questioning the tuner on this it is vst but I'm not sure how good it is, having no real reference[/quote]

C-Tuner is pretty solid (in fact, I recommended it in the Utility thread). I have since writing that thread noticed that it sometimes is buggy with some hosts.

GVST makes GTune, which has the same basic functionality and doesn't cause any errors on my end. Visually, C-Tune is more appealing, but both work just fine.

Awesome thanks. The DAW I use accepts it and I just wanted to make sure it wasn't a hack tool or anything...

So I downloaded the Hydrogen drum machine. I'm using Windows and not Linux so I understand that there are some bugs, but I can't install any drum plugins or save any drum settings.

Anyone who can help, maybe?

Yeah, I only wanted to check out those plugins to see if I could alter them some more anyway.

But I can't seem to be able to save any drumkit settings I've changed myself. The "save" button doesn't respond.

Thanks for the response, btw. I was expecting no one to reply actually, lol.