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RouteOne 03-30-2009 02:52 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLlSnjs-rl0

Jaundice 03-30-2009 02:55 PM

Neither one really, they're from the seventies so it was more so laying the ground work for the genre than easily fitting into a category of it.

I'd describe it as psychedelic rock, with a lot of industrial tape experiments and grooves made from samples and found sounds. There's occasionally free jazz jamming and even the somewhat spaced out pop song here and there.

Metalstyles 03-30-2009 02:58 PM

hmm.. interesting

Tyler 03-30-2009 03:00 PM

[IMG]http://www.made-in-china.com/image/2f0j00pBSaAtTGuEVHM/18v-Cordless-Drill-309002-.jpg[/IMG]

Txus 03-30-2009 03:09 PM

[QUOTE=Meatplow;17151904]I've only got Filth at the moment, gave it a proper listen the other day it's excellent. Get Body to Body next?[/QUOTE]

Hell yes, but is Filth the only Swans album you have? If so, get PlayThe Great Annihilator and White Light From the Mouth of Infinity first.

Jaundice 03-30-2009 03:20 PM

[QUOTE]That should have gone through.[/QUOTE]Indeed, much thanks

Angmar 03-30-2009 03:49 PM

[QUOTE=Cocaine;17152186][IMG]http://www.made-in-china.com/image/2f0j00pBSaAtTGuEVHM/18v-Cordless-Drill-309002-.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

That looks like a piece of s[B]h[/B]it.

Jaundice 03-30-2009 03:58 PM

K so I got bored and took the liberty of uploading Faust's first album, if anyone's interested in it.

[B]Why Don't You Eat Carrots?[/B]
https://www.yousendit.com/download/UmNLT204R3NubVd4dnc9PQ
[B]Meadow Meal[/B]
http://www.yousendit.com/download/UmNLT204NnlrYUR2Wmc9PQ
[B]Miss Fortune[/B]
https://www.yousendit.com/download/UmNLT20rUzdsMHl4dnc9PQ

Already brought this up once but I figure since it's the industrial/noise thread I might as well mention it, I've been making electronic songs and just starting to come up with things that are credible. Only a couple people I know have given feedback so it's hard to tell if they have appeal or if it's just a personal thing
http://www.myspace.com/mellowthatyellow
I'd strongly hesitate to call it industrial, they're short instrumentals that take influence from the genre though, mostly poppy melodies and mechanical noises.

[QUOTE]That looks like a piece of ****.[/QUOTE]I have one in the garage though, I get confused how to use it.

Angmar 03-30-2009 04:06 PM

Looks like it would break easily.

RouteOne 03-30-2009 07:04 PM

http://www.myvideo.de/watch/4804477/Der_Blutharsch_In_the_Hands_of_the_Master

Meatplow 03-30-2009 08:26 PM

[QUOTE=LostChild;17152337]K so I got bored and took the liberty of uploading Faust's first album, if anyone's interested in it.

[B]Why Don't You Eat Carrots?[/B]
https://www.yousendit.com/download/UmNLT204R3NubVd4dnc9PQ
[B]Meadow Meal[/B]
http://www.yousendit.com/download/UmNLT204NnlrYUR2Wmc9PQ
[B]Miss Fortune[/B]
https://www.yousendit.com/download/UmNLT20rUzdsMHl4dnc9PQ

Already brought this up once but I figure since it's the industrial/noise thread I might as well mention it, I've been making electronic songs and just starting to come up with things that are credible. Only a couple people I know have given feedback so it's hard to tell if they have appeal or if it's just a personal thing
http://www.myspace.com/mellowthatyellow
I'd strongly hesitate to call it industrial, they're short instrumentals that take influence from the genre though, mostly poppy melodies and mechanical noises.

I have one in the garage though, I get confused how to use it.[/QUOTE]

I'll check these out, cheers.

[QUOTE=LostChild;17152155]Don't care if it's not considered tr00, I gots mad respect for Nine Inch Nails. It's some of the most diverse industrial-related output I've ever heard, in terms of successfully crossing over with pop and rock styles.[/QUOTE]

I never really got into NIN but I was giving the Downward Spiral a proper listen last night and I really enjoy it, my attention tends to waver after the first few songs though. Heresy is incredible, always sends chills through me. But seeing as there is a kind of pop influence over it i've seen industrial fans carry on about how bad they (he?) are (is?).

[QUOTE=Txus;17152203]Hell yes, but is Filth the only Swans album you have? If so, get PlayThe Great Annihilator and White Light From the Mouth of Infinity first.[/QUOTE]

Yeah it is, i'll look into it cheers

[QUOTE=metalstyles15;17152137]hey guys, good to see a industrial thread in here.
Question, has any of you listened something from the repertoire of Crossbreed or Turmion Kätilöt? If so, I would love to hear your opinon on them. Anyway what are your favourite industrial bands and/or albums?[/QUOTE]

would probably read something liek -

Throbbing Gristle - 20 Jazz Funk Greats
Cabaret Voltaire - Mix-Up
Chrome - Half Machine Lip Moves (reminds me a bit of the Stooges with tape loops)
Front 242 - Front By Front
Front Line Assembly - Tactical Neural Implant
Godflesh - Streetcleaner, Pure, Messiah
Foetus - Hole, Nail, Thaw, Flow
KMFDM - everything from Naive to Symbols
Laibach - Opus Dei (Martial Industrial, ha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbB1s7TZUQk)
Ministry - The Mind Is A Terrible Thing to Taste, The Land of Rape and Honey, Psalm 69, Filth Pig
Skinny Puppy - Too Dark Park, The Process
Swans - Filth

[QUOTE=Cocaine;17152186][IMG]http://www.made-in-china.com/image/2f0j00pBSaAtTGuEVHM/18v-Cordless-Drill-309002-.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

[img]http://i40.tinypic.com/2nw3jo4.jpg[/img]

Aaron 03-30-2009 10:12 PM

I'm confused. My birthday isn't for a week. This thread is early.

publicastration 03-30-2009 10:16 PM

oh my god Foetus is brilliant. Hole is one of the most twisted albums I've ever heard.

imperialblackness 03-30-2009 10:17 PM

I"ve never listened to them, whats it like?

publicastration 03-30-2009 10:18 PM

indescribable

hole is like doo-wop from satan's asshole christened with a touch of tom waits' blood

imperialblackness 03-30-2009 10:19 PM

I'm gonna check them out then

publicastration 03-30-2009 10:20 PM

I tried describing them lol

by the way meaty if you could send me that Navicon Torture Technologies that would be awesome, I can't find it anywhere

Shattered_Future 03-30-2009 10:21 PM

[QUOTE=metalstyles15;17152137]hey guys, good to see a industrial thread in here.
Question, has any of you listened something from the repertoire of Crossbreed or Turmion Kätilöt? If so, I would love to hear your opinon on them. Anyway what are your favourite industrial bands and/or albums?[/QUOTE]

The second gets old incredibly, incredibly quickly, but there's a couple of songs that do a good job of making you feel all tough and ****.

I realized that I love really, really poorly written EBM.

imperialblackness 03-30-2009 10:21 PM

hahaha thats awesome, that definitely makes me wanna listen to them

publicastration 03-30-2009 10:23 PM

it's absolutely ridiculous but I love it

thaw isn't as weird, really Godflesh influenced

actually now that I think about it Godflesh probably took influence from Foetus I think they came later

Jaundice 03-30-2009 10:32 PM

[QUOTE]But seeing as there is a kind of pop influence over it i've seen industrial fans carry on about how bad they (he?) are (is?).[/QUOTE]Yeah, it's taking a risk. But I can honestly say it's gotta be one of the most ingenious stylistic splices in modern music history.

I had apprehensions for a while but I finally got around to listening to [I]The Land of Rape and Honey[/I] earlier and I'm actually feeling it. It's simple and kind of silly but it has some grooves.

Been thinking about it for a while and I suppose I can't put it off much longer, I'm about to stock up on industrial records. That idea I had about listening to only post-punk/african chants/dub-step for a few months was misguided anyaway

Epidemechanical 03-30-2009 10:41 PM

[QUOTE=LostChild;17153138]Yeah, it's taking a risk. But I can honestly say it's gotta be one of the most ingenious stylistic splices in modern music history.

I had apprehensions for a while but I finally got around to listening to [I]The Land of Rape and Honey[/I] earlier and I'm actually feeling it. It's simple and kind of silly but it has some grooves.

Been thinking about it for a while and I suppose I can't put it off much longer, I'm about to stock up on industrial records. That idea I had about listening to only post-punk/african chants/dub-step for a few months was misguided anyaway[/QUOTE]

i find it incredibly difficult to hate NIN or trent reznor - and in my music community its either love or hate for him no in-between

most of the arguments i hear for why NIN sucks are based around the pop appeal and the sheer accessibility of reznor's music. which is really ironic because reznor probably should be one of the biggest influences of anybody who does music themselves (which most of the fringe EBM/industrial bands have to do)

he does it all alone - and i think creates some really good stuff. the newer albums since "With Teeth" were pretty lackluster but the early material is some of the best and most important music ever made for this genre, and reznor is easily the first step into understanding this world of sound imo (another first step by comparison would be skinny puppy, etc)

but anyways, threadstarter, you should check out these two bands i've been into for the past year or so. they are relatively unknown and not cared about, but for some reason i just always think of them for this genre

[url]http://www.myspace.com/empusa[/url]

[url]http://www.myspace.com/blackswaninsurgency[/url]

its EBM industrial done right, i love the vocalist. (same vocalist for both projects.) the first is typical cybergoth style EBM, second is a sort of strange anarchist/punk EBM vibe. really interesting break from the a-typical "blood and gore" theme.

Jaundice 03-30-2009 10:52 PM

Granted everything from PHM to Broken was classic. With Teeth had some very solid songs on it but they were surrounded by filler, so I'd easily call it the worst album.

The Slip, Ghosts and Year Zero were all brilliant in my book.

Epidemechanical 03-30-2009 10:57 PM

[QUOTE=LostChild;17153178]Granted everything from PHM to Broken was classic. With Teeth had some very solid songs on it but they were surrounded by filler, so I'd easily call it the worst album.

The Slip, Ghosts and Year Zero were all brilliant in my book.[/QUOTE]

you think the slip is brilliant? ugh, yuck. I've been seriously disappointed by every release since With Teeth. There were some songs on WT that were decent (EIETS for example) but for the most part the album as a whole is just not good.

I actually haven't met anybody that liked The Slip till you just now, haha. I just don't feel like its a NIN record. Feels more like reznor joined a band, and the best thing about NIN was the isolation that went along with the music. It just sounded like it was made by one guy in one studio and that sorta mystique makes the stuff a lot better. I mean The Fragile was basically recorded over the course of years by nobody but reznor in the basement studio of an old funeral home if memory serves

but now its getting a little too "big budget" for me and there is nothing wrong with that, but i think reznor's relaxation into the spotlight is showing a little bit. nothing is polished and nothing really has what made NIN great.

i will give him this, though - ghosts was the definitive release of his career. not only that, but it kept him current: he embraced the trend of free music downloading. Proves to us yet again that he always has what it takes to be on the cutting edge of great music and the philosophy of listening to it.

Aaron 03-30-2009 11:23 PM

How'd I guess that this thread would bring you out of the woodwork, Raayl? lol.

Tyler 03-30-2009 11:25 PM

sorcery?

Epidemechanical 03-30-2009 11:26 PM

[QUOTE=Aaron;17153224]How'd I guess that this thread would bring you out of the woodwork, Raayl? lol.[/QUOTE]

dude this is like

my joint right here

Aaron 03-30-2009 11:32 PM

As it is mine. Let's get stoned and watch cartoons all day.

Jaundice 03-30-2009 11:57 PM

I definitely agree on the Reznor joining a band feel to The Slip. It's more toned down straight forward rock, which is somewhat below par but most of the songs are solid. What I liked most about it was that there were songs on it that were like nothing he'd released previously (Echoplex, Four of Us Are Dying)

Ghosts is hardcore.

FatalEnergy 03-31-2009 12:21 AM

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