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[QUOTE=Bleekill;17940730]Basically atmospheric black metal. Bands that have post-rock/shoegaze influence.[/QUOTE]

The two are unrelated. Atmospheric black metal is not post-black metal. Secondly, the new Blut Aus Nord doesn't have a shoegaze influence. Do you even listen to what you're posting about?

most of his recs are p good man so id be willing to guess that he does

maybe his view of a word that describes a type of music is different than what is the established norm?

[QUOTE]maybe his view of a word that describes a type of music is different than what is the established norm?[/QUOTE]
aka: wrong?

post black metal is **** like Arcturus. Stuff with black metal roots or influences that sit outside of the genre. Alcest would be post-black metal, I guess, but Blut Aus Nord, Drudkh, bands like that are just black metal.

It doesn't have to have a shoegaze influence to be shoegazey.

It's one of those tags you can arbitrarily put on anything these days

You know like "psychedelic" or "industrial"

Yeah, I do listen to it. To be considered post-black metal doesn't automatically mean it sounds like shoegaze. It can be avant-garde, folky, electronic influenced, whatever. So long as it is atmospheric and mixes other influences, it can be considered post-black metal.

edit: yeah they kinda said it before me.

okay Mortifera's shrieks are amazing ^____^

[quote]post black metal is **** like Arcturus[/quote]
lol

I never said something had to be "shoegazey" to be post black metal.

The only thing I'm arguing here is that the new Blut Aus Nord is absolutely nothing like the new Alcest and there's absolutely no point of comparison between the two. They're French and that's where it stops. I think "post black metal" is a ridiculous label (and I don't think Alcest are black metal in the first place) so I don't really care enough to argue the semantics here.

[QUOTE]post black metal is **** like Arcturus [/QUOTE]
At least it used to be. That's the thing with made up subgenres, they tend to change over the years because, well, they're made up. Bad example but you get what I'm saying. "Post black metal" is **** that isn't really black metal.

Most post-genres are an unnecessary distinction from the original genre.

It's a necessary distinction because most bands who fit the bill aren't actually black metal, it's just completely random and ambiguous as far as classification goes outside of the initial distinction.

[QUOTE=TimJim;17940200]can i get some recs for BM like Alcest?[/QUOTE]

Heretoir, Lantlos, Etheral Beauty, Thränenkind.

and yeah, Blut Aus Nord don't sound like Alcest at all. But still, if you don't have that album check them out.

[QUOTE=Cocaine;17940867]It's a necessary distinction because most bands who fit the bill aren't actually black metal, it's just completely random and ambiguous as far as classification goes outside of the initial distinction.[/QUOTE]

I could reason with black metal getting some kind of "post" offshoot

because i don't think there's any subgenre of metal that can stray anywhere near as far from whats typically considered metal than black metal.

Holy ****, who cares.

idk you did enough to bump it and swear about it

i mean sorry we can go back to you asking if anyone has heard generic black metal band every couple of hours

i love how people whine that the black metal thread gets redundant, but then as soon as there's a 'worthwhile' argument (or just something different), they whine some more

welcome to the black metal thread

[QUOTE=Stormrider;17942117]i love how people whine that the black metal thread gets redundant, but then as soon as there's a 'worthwhile' argument (or just something different), they whine some more[/QUOTE]

that's just Justin.

im pretty sure you say "who cares" more than justin lol

I always try to contribute tbh

You've changed, Jammie bro.

i was mostly referring to that one time i mentioned it in here after you had said who cares about 5 times in the same day heh but yeah, i know you contribute

New Altar of Plagues is good so far.

[QUOTE=Txus;17942584]New Altar of Plagues is good so far.[/QUOTE]

Zomg, is it out yet? I haven't heard it yet.

digging [I]Pure Holocaust[/I]

[QUOTE=Mornwyrd;17943089]Zomg, is it out yet? I haven't heard it yet.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I just bought it.

I say who cares all the time because I'm a troo nihilist.

:lol:

been listening to moonblood blut und krieg. forgot how much i like this album

Yeah [I]Blut und Krieg[/I] is pretty good.

god, gris is so ****ing good

best canadian black metal band imo