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Astronaut 09-09-2012 08:33 PM

Official Bass Forum Substitute Thread™
 
Here you go, boys. This thread is the new Bass forum. :chug:

Seafroggys 09-09-2012 09:03 PM

Sweet

I have short stubby fingers. Sometimes my jazz bass seems huge. What's a good short scale that's not terribly expensive?

FunkMetalBass 09-10-2012 07:57 AM

[quote=Astronaut;18947580]Here you go, boys. This thread is the new Bass forum. :chug:[/quote]

Feels like home!


[quote=Seafroggys;18947590]Sweet

I have short stubby fingers. Sometimes my jazz bass seems huge. What's a good short scale that's not terribly expensive?[/quote]

What's your price range? Are you looking for something similar to your jazz tonally?

Astronaut 09-10-2012 09:13 AM

[QUOTE=FunkMetalBass;18947757]Feels like home![/QUOTE]

I'm glad! I hope you all decide to stay awhile, after being given the middle finger by Jeremy and all.

I've found that when playing bass, my "style" is completely different from when I play guitar. Like, I don't make the same kind of music at all.

Jeffs Carrot 09-10-2012 05:06 PM

[QUOTE=Seafroggys;18947590]Sweet

I have short stubby fingers. Sometimes my jazz bass seems huge. What's a good short scale that's not terribly expensive?[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.rondomusic.com/ursa2jrrn3ts.html[/url]

Short scale and cheap

Seafroggys 09-10-2012 08:02 PM

Ah yes Rondos, heard great things about them. (and that link is pretty much the look of my bass exactly, minus the length)

Well bass isn't my main instrument, so I'm not keen on putting in too much dough. My MIM Jazz used was like $350, that was about the most I was going for back then. I saw a 68 Gibson EB-3 for $800 a few months ago and I was tempted to buy that, would have been a waste but oh soo awesome :lol:

Tonally? I like midrangey stuff...so yeah, similar to the jazz bass.

BenJammin 09-12-2012 11:11 AM

Short scale basses are fun. Good technique can work to overcome scale length and string spacing, though, so I'd recommend trying to learn to work with your jazz before considering a new instrument.

FunkMetalBass 09-12-2012 03:24 PM

[quote=Seafroggys;18947902]Ah yes Rondos, heard great things about them. (and that link is pretty much the look of my bass exactly, minus the length)

Well bass isn't my main instrument, so I'm not keen on putting in too much dough. My MIM Jazz used was like $350, that was about the most I was going for back then. I saw a 68 Gibson EB-3 for $800 a few months ago and I was tempted to buy that, would have been a waste but oh soo awesome :lol:

Tonally? I like midrangey stuff...so yeah, similar to the jazz bass.[/quote]

I agree with Ben's statement that technique can easily overcome the scale and will save you the dough. The neck width on a typical Fender 4-string bass is the same as the nut width on a 6-string strat. The scale length and neck thickness are generally the big differences.

Being a guitarist, you're probably used to using one-finger-per-fret, which is not as common for the lower frets on a bass. In the first few positions, for ergonomics alone, I typically find myself using fingers 1,2,4 for frets 1,2,3 (much like upright players) unless the line requires some interesting ring finger stretch.

If you want a short scale, I'd recommend the new Squier SS Jags. I find them to balance better than a 34" jazz. They have scale lengths of 30" (most others are 32"), and a P/J pickup configuration for a nice sexy combination of high and low mids. It's also under $200 and there's a good chance you can play one locally. That even leaves you enough for a pickup upgrade if you wanted to go that route.

Seafroggys 09-12-2012 08:48 PM

I'm a drummer, but thanks for the advice :chug:

I can play my jazz just fine, but I really do have abnormally small fingers.

Jeffs Carrot 09-12-2012 09:38 PM

Good call on the Squier

You can find some real jems with them if you look around enough. Often better builds than the MIM fenders, especially the fret work!

mx 09-13-2012 03:14 PM

[QUOTE=Astronaut;18947776]I'm glad! I hope you all decide to stay awhile, after being given the middle finger by Jeremy and all.[/QUOTE]

Wasn't meant to be a middle finger - but the traffic didn't justify a forum. Some of the bass forum's most recent threads were from July.

Astronaut 09-13-2012 03:54 PM

[QUOTE=mx;18948824]Wasn't meant to be a middle finger - but the traffic didn't justify a forum. Some of the bass forum's most recent threads were from July.[/QUOTE]

I know exactly where you were comin' from, Jeremy. I was just speaking a little tongue-in-cheek. :thumb:

FunkMetalBass 09-14-2012 09:53 AM

So, that 9-string bass that I designed and want to have CNC'd...should it be bolt-on or neck-thru? We're probably going to run through more pinewood CNC testing in a few weeks, and so I think I need to finalize the design before then.

Astronaut 09-14-2012 11:33 AM

I like the sustain of neck-throughs, personally. I know some people who swear that bolt-ons get better tone though.

Jeffs Carrot 09-15-2012 12:45 AM

It's hard to tell a real difference between any of them unless you let the idea of it get to your head. I think a huge part of good tone happens when everything mixes just right together. Good build quality,good pickups, good electronics ect. You can come across some really dead set-neck and neck through guitars because the build quality is poor and the seating is horribly done. Same thing goes for a bolt on, bad neck pocket fit, mis-aligned neck all can contribute to horrible tone.

You need the right recipe of everything to make a good tone machine.

FunkMetalBass 09-16-2012 07:41 AM

I already have all of the CAD done for the bolt-on, so for the sake of ease and design testing, I'll go ahead and make the first one a bolt on.

I think I'll eventually get around to drafting up the neck-through version because it'll make upper-fret access just a little easier and hopefully increase sustain on some of the lower notes. I notice that my low F# string on my bolt-on seems to lack the sustain that the other strings do, and I can't help but wonder if the bolt-on aspect is to blame.

Seafroggys 09-16-2012 11:58 AM

How does an Epi EB-3 compare as a short scale bass, compared to some of the Squiers or Rondos mentioned earlier?

Jeffs Carrot 09-16-2012 06:11 PM

Not bad at all

But a lil overpriced for what it is

Az_Holl 09-16-2012 09:45 PM

The EB-3 isnt short-scale. Maybe you meant the EB-0?

Seafroggys 09-16-2012 09:55 PM

Yes, I think that's it. Although weren't the original EB-3 Gibsons in the 60's short scale?

Anyway, yeah, the EB-0 is what I meant.

Astronaut 09-16-2012 09:55 PM

Still lovin' the user title there.

Az_Holl 09-16-2012 10:26 PM

EB-0's are fun, but a Squier/Rondo would be better value for money imo

Az_Holl 09-16-2012 10:27 PM

actaully downloaded some zoids awhile ago.... not so great haha :p

BassVirtuoso 09-17-2012 03:02 AM

And to think...at one point we had fuckin jean baudin posting in the bass forum

FunkMetalBass 09-17-2012 09:11 AM

Damnit BV, I missed the hell out of that avatar.

BenJammin 09-17-2012 02:52 PM

Yeah, we're basically 4 posters... Lol. Oh well.

FunkMetalBass 09-17-2012 05:36 PM

Speaking of four-posters, can somebody explain to me the appeal of that style of bed? I really don't understand it.

[img]http://www.4-poster-beds.com/page_images/canopy_bed_4.jpg[/img]

Jeffs Carrot 09-17-2012 06:09 PM

It would be broken within minutes

You couldn't resist wanting to swing into bed off those top bars

Astronaut 09-17-2012 06:36 PM

Maybe you can hang sheets like a canopy above it or something, I don't know.

Az_Holl 09-18-2012 02:46 AM

pretty much so you can make a sweet bed-tent hybrid.

bed forts are awesome


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