ATEC is a collection of songs

SfaFC is an album. Its meant to be listened to as a whole, not song for song. thats the only way you can possibly grasp the concept and go on the journey. I love all three albums, but Clarity is just brilliant in the most extreme sense of the word.

....right

[QUOTE=Clashed]I saw them play at Warped...
I was dissapointed...[/QUOTE]
I expect to be. If not because of the setlist, because of the crowd/atmosphere.

The crowd when I saw them was pretty cool. The setlist was mediocre, only song from RAR was Pints of Guiness

I got to the warped tour fifteen minutes too lates to see them. :( They were the reason I went.

They exceeded my expectations when i saw them for their own show, and i had really high expectations.

[QUOTE=kno_kontrol]ATEC is a collection of songs

SfaFC is an album. Its meant to be listened to as a whole, not song for song. thats the only way you can possibly grasp the concept and go on the journey. I love all three albums, but Clarity is just brilliant in the most extreme sense of the word.[/QUOTE]
SfaFC was really boring. No energy. I don't know s[SIZE="2"]hi[/SIZE]t about a journey, nor do I care. My punk rock isn't about journeys.

They really fell apart as far as a driving force for the band goes. They just lost it.

They were amazing when I saw them headlining back in the fall. It was one of the best shows I have ever been to.

[QUOTE=kno_kontrol]ATEC is a collection of songs

SfaFC is an album. Its meant to be listened to as a whole, not song for song. thats the only way you can possibly grasp the concept and go on the journey. I love all three albums, but Clarity is just brilliant in the most extreme sense of the word.[/QUOTE]

This isn't even a valid opinion. It's just plain wrong.

SFAFC is a piece of ****. It really is. The thing about Against Me! before they released that **** was that every single second of every song held more passion than most people have ever heard out of a band. Every lyric and chord held more meaning than most of the music we listen to. SFAFC lacked everything that is Against Me! and as such a big fan I'm honestly ashamed that they put that out.

[QUOTE=obese_breasts]The crowd when I saw them was pretty cool. The setlist was mediocre, only song from RAR was Pints of Guiness[/QUOTE]
That really sucks.

[QUOTE=kno_kontrol]ATEC is a collection of songs

SfaFC is an album. Its meant to be listened to as a whole, not song for song. thats the only way you can possibly grasp the concept and go on the journey. I love all three albums, but Clarity is just brilliant in the most extreme sense of the word.[/QUOTE]
....

This nigga is [I]insane.[/I]

SFAFC is a good album.

It is, but that Kontrol nig is talking about it like it contains the suberbaby of Hitler and Mike Tyson.

RAR is in my opinion the greatest album ever. It comepletly changed the way I think about music and how I live my life. Very few records ever do that. ATEC was great, one of my top 10 favorite records, but not better than RAR. SFAFC was good (keep in mind that the last two were some of the best music ever written, so 'good' is one hell of a downgrade), but it did lack the same passion AM! previously had. It's not a Punk record by any means, and I think more people need to take that into account. If you want to hear Punk music and put on SFAFC, you'll be dissapointed. It's pretty muich a straight up Rock record, and a pretty damn good one at that.

Just my 2 cents...

P.S. The whole Punk music thing was not intended to suggest that anyone here had a close minded look on music. I know this board actually has quite eclectic tastes in music, thank God (AKA Tom Gabel :p )

EDIT: And I do agree with the guy that said that SFAFC was more of a cohesive album that needed to be listened to as a whole to really appreciate it, while the other albums were 'just collections of songs' (particularly ATEC). But keep in mind that that does not neccisarily make for a better record.

[QUOTE=sketchyjoe]That really sucks.[/QUOTE]

I remember now that they played Reinventing Axl Rose too, ironic much?

I like SFAFC, but it has about 6 good songs and the rest are all very average.

Definitely their worst release.

SFAFC has Even At Our Worst We're Better Than Most on though, and thats a brilliant song. And who was it who said SFAFC had no passion? Even At Our Worst, the title track, From Her Lips To Gods Ears, Justin, Joy & Problems for a start. Granted there are a few duds, like How Low and Miami, but i cant imagine the album being the same without them. I found SFAFC was a real grower, i thought it was as weak as Belgian beer originally but now i love it.

Haha, Miami is my favourite and How Low is also one of my favourites.

I think Miami is one of their best songs.

yea, but the record is just.....boring

[QUOTE=TakeWarning]Haha, Miami is my favourite and How Low is also one of my favourites.

I think Miami is one of their best songs.[/QUOTE]
I like Miami because it has more energy than any of the other songs on the album.

And I also like How Low. Searching For a Former Clarity the song is pretty good aswell. Other than those, I could really do without the album.

Even at our worst were still better than most is amazing.

As is How Low, Holy ****, Problems, SFAFC, Unprotected Sex.. etc are too in my book.

Oh man, I really hate the song problems.

haha it's good, got lots of energy to it.

I like Pretty Girls too.

On SFAFC there's lots of bits where I like one bit of the song like one verse, riff or the chorus but not the song as a whole.

eg the riff from Unprotected Sex With Multiple Partners
the chorus of From Her Lips to God's Ears
the intro to Don't Lose Touch (Jimmy Cliff rip-off)

[quote=Angry Balled Fists!]Even at our worst were still better than most is amazing.

As is How Low, Holy ****, Problems, SFAFC, Unprotected Sex.. etc are too in my book.[/quote]

Holy **** became my favorite AM! song after a couple of listens.

[QUOTE=sketchyjoe]
the intro to Don't Lose Touch (Jimmy Cliff rip-off)[/QUOTE]

Serious? What song?

[QUOTE=ThievesandBastards]
Plectrum.


You music dork.[/QUOTE]

that's right.

Is Snowball Fight the poster formerly known as Bad Blood?

Yeah.

[QUOTE=TakeWarning]Serious? What song?[/QUOTE]
It sounds just like You Can Get It If You Really Want. There's a moment at about 30 seconds in where I think he's about to say "And you succeed at last" every time I hear it.

Miami is overlong, slow and has those horrible out of tune trumpet parts in the chorus. The version on that stolen demo is much better, but still aint great, at least in my book. Ed Is Sexy off that demo is much cooler, cant believe they didnt re-record that song.

I prefer the demo version of Miami, so I just put it on my copy of SFAFC instead of the album version, since I burnt my copy.

[QUOTE=sketchyjoe]It sounds just like You Can Get It If You Really Want. There's a moment at about 30 seconds in where I think he's about to say "And you succeed at last" every time I hear it.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I can see where you're coming from, the songs do sound kind of alike.

The song from the dvd (exhaustion) should have easily been on the album, imo it's one of AM!'s best songs, ever.

TSR is the best AM! song.

It's definetley up there. I really really wish they played it when i saw them :(

its really short though.

The reason they didint put ed is sexy or exaustion on the album is because ed is sexy doesnt fit well with the rest of the album, and for exaustion- they already had too many songs addressing whats addressed in that song (medicocrity gets you peers, unprotected sex with multiple partners). The "**** genres" thing was already redundant enough.

But those are in my opinion two of their best songs.

I can't believe they didn't put 'Exhaustion' on SFAFC either. I thought it was far and away the best song on the stolen demo and it would have fit in so well on SFAFC. And 'Miami' ****ing slaughters!

[QUOTE=TakeWarning]Is Snowball Fight the poster formerly known as Bad Blood?[/QUOTE]

that's me :wave:

cavalier eternal must be one of the best acoustic/solo songs i've hear in a long long time.

My favorite acoustic song of theirs, is We Did it All for Don

I think my favorite song overall, is between Waling is Still Honest, and Yall DOnt Wanna Step to Dis