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Invicta_Veritas 07-12-2007 01:19 AM

[quote=i am the robots;14964343]Maybe you don't understand. Most of the songs on Doom were written around 2004/2005, that was the hayday of the faux-metalcore trend, when Doom was a new release, everybody was all like HELL YEAH, AS I LAY DYING! WOOO SHADOWS FALL!

[I]Besides, Doom's not a metalcore recording, neither is Genesis.[/I] [B]Here's on topic JFAC discussion: the demo showed promise in the songwriting department, but was pretty sloppy and the drumming was terrible[/B].[/quote]

Still not pertinent to metalcore discussion, you're derailing your own point. Back to metalcore.



So I have a serious question. Are any f[size=2]u[/size]cking bands metalcore anymore? People have become so wrapped up in "well, they do this or that" or "they have hints of this or that" "so that makes them hardcore or post thrash or something else" and blah blah blah.


I remember when the general group of bands, including Shadows Fall, Unearth, All That Remains, 36 Crazyfists, etc. were all accepted as metalcore. Now it seems that has all gone away, and we've started overanalyzing every band to exclude it from the genre. So now we have a complete genre redefinition, and I'm confused.

i am the robots 07-12-2007 01:45 AM

Well I was saying that the JFAC demo was metalcore, but it sucked because of the drumming.

Overall, metalcore's a combo of metal and hardcore, it's always been, just when that stuff was big, stupid kids threw the label on it and didn't understand what it meant.

LifeInABox 07-12-2007 07:42 AM

Shadows Fall is Thrash, Unearth and All That Remains are Metalcore, and I havn't heard 36 Crazyfists.

What about:

Converge
Botch
Killswitch Engage
Poison The Well
Integrity
All the Generic crap

encmetalhead 07-12-2007 08:37 AM

this should get renamed metalcore/deathcore

i perfer KSE over the other bands you mentioned

hate shadows fall though

LifeInABox 07-12-2007 08:41 AM

They're thrash anyway, so this is the wrong thread for them. There really isn't such thing as Deathcore. It's just Death Metal/Metalcore.

MagicNinjaMatt 07-12-2007 08:49 AM

The only bands that I kinda digg that might fall under this category are Parkway Drive, and Dillinger Escape Plan.

encmetalhead 07-12-2007 08:55 AM

True but it can't really be Metalcore since they's no clean vocals and the like

2muchket! 07-12-2007 08:56 AM

[QUOTE=Hbp;14965411]They're thrash anyway, so this is the wrong thread for them. There really isn't such thing as Deathcore. It's just Death Metal/Metalcore.[/QUOTE]

Death Metal/Hardcore is liking saying Metal/Hardcore. Just use the term deathcore.

Speaking of crappy Deathcore I now hate TTEOTD. And they used to be one of my favourite bands. Why the hell did Anthony have to leave ?

Concubine 07-12-2007 09:04 AM

[QUOTE=encmetalhead;14965439]True but it can't really be Metalcore since they's no clean vocals and the like[/QUOTE]

wrong

most metalcore bands don't even sing

RetiredAt21 07-12-2007 09:04 AM

Stop talking about faggy bands. Listen to Integrity, fools.

LifeInABox 07-12-2007 09:06 AM

But alot do. Death Metal/Metalcore hybrids usually come out sounding like Melodic Death Metal with breakdowns anyway.

RetiredAt21 07-12-2007 09:07 AM

This thread makes me want to stop listening to metalcore.

Apocalyptic Raids 07-12-2007 09:08 AM

I proclaim this thread the second worst ever.

RetiredAt21 07-12-2007 09:08 AM

[QUOTE=Apocalyptic Raids;14965479]I proclaim this thread the second worst ever.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, these lame kids pretty much ruined it.

Transient 07-12-2007 09:09 AM

You shouldn't have been listening to metalcore in the first place Justin.

LifeInABox 07-12-2007 09:23 AM

[QUOTE=RetiredAt21;14965482]Yeah, these lame kids pretty much ruined it.[/QUOTE]

Yeah. I wish those kids would stop posting.

RetiredAt21 07-12-2007 09:37 AM

[QUOTE=i am the robots;14964091]:lol: if you took that seriously. :lol:

Anyway, Today Is The Day, anybody?[/QUOTE]

Today Is The Day is alright.

Concubine 07-12-2007 10:08 AM

[QUOTE=Hbp;14965472]But alot do. Death Metal/Metalcore hybrids usually come out sounding like Melodic Death Metal with breakdowns anyway.[/QUOTE]

ya but im talking about metalcore, not that stupid ****

LifeInABox 07-12-2007 10:17 PM

Wow, someone please change the fact that in the review site Between The Buried And Me is Metalcore.

i am the robots 07-13-2007 12:28 AM

Why? The first two albums have a lot of hardcore influence, whilest Alaska might not.

Nostalgia 07-13-2007 12:50 AM

Haha, why is there so much bitching in this thread? The only one I actually see who posts civily is Eleventeen.

Retired At 21: Quit making retarded posts saying how much you hate this thead. Every one I see you're stating how stupid it is; if you actually think this, stop posting in this thread.

i am the robots 07-13-2007 12:59 AM

I agree with Concubine and Retired though, this thread does suck, because Hbp keeps bringing up stupid sh[size=2]it[/size].

Invicta_Veritas 07-13-2007 02:24 AM

Hey now, I try to be civilized in here too.

i am the robots 07-13-2007 02:26 AM

Retired or Concubine, mention something good.

Invicta_Veritas 07-13-2007 02:28 AM

I have a serious question, 36 Crazyfists is metalcore, yes ? At least most of thier stuff seems to be a good blend of hardcore and metal, I don't know.

Anyway, why is there so much hate for them here? I think Brock is a hell of a vocalist/lyricist, and the music isn't bad.

i am the robots 07-13-2007 02:31 AM

I never really bothered giving them enough of a listen to remember. I heard like one song and was just bored out of my mind.

Invicta_Veritas 07-13-2007 02:39 AM

Go listen to "Bloodwork" and let me know what you think. That's my favorite song by them. The video sucks though.

i am the robots 07-13-2007 02:54 AM

:lol: that video's all I remember of them.

Sounds like alternative/nu metal from like 2001.

Yeah, everything I've heard of them so far sounds like nu-metal/fauxcore stuff like Luti-Kriss... I really don't like them.

Shred Danson 07-13-2007 02:57 AM

A Plea For Purging, All Shall Perish, The Human Abstract and War of Ages are the best "metalcore" bands out there right now, in my opinion.

Oh, and Korn. They're so awesome.

i am the robots 07-13-2007 03:02 AM

Haha, I hate you.

And All Shall Perish is melodic death, doll... or that's the closest description.


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