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azurescen 11-18-2012 05:35 PM

Well my main point in noone believing is that if it were out there it would be out there all over. Music wouldn't be the same. In my first post I explained how to achieve it from the three different points of views of a musician and yet people still nay say and say I need to post a video. Trust me if it were easy for me I would but I hardly care about being alive sooo...Your outa luck till it's easy for me.

azurescen 11-18-2012 05:39 PM

[QUOTE=(*The Noonward Race*);18966992]This post has racism, narcissism in grand majestic sweeping generalizations and baseless conjectures worse than an american political ad.[/QUOTE]

Yeah every white man other than me only knows how to copy and paste. Has only tapped melody creating music, and can't get thier head outa thier OWN ass if they can't even hear me.

(*The Noonward Race*) 11-18-2012 07:34 PM

If your own conception of music is so sublime why does it not enlighten you to empathize with the music of all people?

Where is the music of yourself improvising within the souls surrounding you to see it's resonance within another person regardless of their own personal proclivities?

You are ardently against this idea repetitively it seems.

azurescen 11-18-2012 10:47 PM

lol you simply have no idea what you're talking about. Learn to improvise for even a second and you will NEVER REPEAT AGAIN. I know, I grew outa it.

(*The Noonward Race*) 11-18-2012 11:34 PM

-2.5

= 6 / 10

fingers mccoy 11-19-2012 02:47 AM

[QUOTE=azurescen;18968250]Well my main point in noone believing is that if it were out there it would be out there all over. Music wouldn't be the same. In my first post I explained how to achieve it from the three different points of views of a musician and yet people still nay say and say I need to post a video. Trust me if it were easy for me I would but I hardly care about being alive sooo...Your outa luck till it's easy for me.[/QUOTE]

bro we just need you to explain it for us in sound

it's oral tradition bro

MrConeman 11-19-2012 02:33 PM

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I improvised this post.

azurescen 11-30-2012 08:45 PM

a-hole, check where your brain is

(*The Noonward Race*) 11-30-2012 08:51 PM

wait so what are you trying to prove here, again?

it's too naive to be memorable sorry

Daily Routine 12-01-2012 02:00 AM

where's the vid

do you even play, azure

OysterizerInsomniac 12-18-2012 11:16 PM

[QUOTE=azurescen;18968250]Well my main point in noone believing is that if it were out there it would be out there all over. Music wouldn't be the same. In my first post I explained how to achieve it from the three different points of views of a musician and yet people still nay say and say I need to post a video. Trust me if it were easy for me I would but I hardly care about being alive sooo...Your outa luck till it's easy for me.[/QUOTE]

why do you find it necessary to constantly tell us that you hardly care about being alive? Also, people are asking you to post a video because you are making extremely large claims about your musical ability and without actually hearing you there's no point for you or anyone to talk about your musical ability here.

Activista anti-MTV 12-19-2012 09:18 PM

sir richard bishop is good. does anyone know, does he improvise?

SupFellas 12-19-2012 10:26 PM

[QUOTE=Activista anti-MTV;18980312]sir richard bishop is good. does anyone know, does he improvise?[/QUOTE]

very much so yes

Activista anti-MTV 12-20-2012 03:03 AM

[QUOTE=SupFellas;18980347]very much so yes[/QUOTE]

thanks for the response! he's a great player, very distinct. almost unleashed creatively

joefloyd27 12-21-2012 11:25 AM

improvisation
 
I'm a decent guitar player myself Azure. I also try to improvise whereever the chance arises. Truthfully with time there isn't much I can't play, it's just a matter of whether I want to or not. Improv. is not just a matter of disjointed ideas thrown out there with the only requirement being different. That's not really improv. and sometimes is really just busy noise. Improv is about a feel, especially in blues. Sometimes its important to repeat lines to drive a point home. Sometimes its good to give a small taste of something different. Sometimes it's important to just grab that one note and bend the crap out of it over and over to create an emotion.
I've got news for you though. Improvisation has been around since before JS Bach. His brother CPE Bach was renown through Europe as one of the best of his time. Paganini the violinist was extremely accomplished at it. Odds are good no matter what notes or rhythm you play they have been played before. So its not so much what you play but how you play it. All this thinking that you have re-invented the wheel is mostly bragging.
Miles Davis thought he would re-invent the wheel and truthfully, with the exception of the hardcore jazzers, it was pretty much noise for the sake of being original.
The truth about improvisation is that it is a balance between on the spot originality and entertainment.
The average ear, of the human being, hear's and responds to certain progressions, scales, and arpegios(spelling I know, I know, lol). By using these long standing tools of the trade you can somewhat be original. Get out of these boundries and very quickly you'll find noone wants to hear it. Music is a language. It has structured lines from the beginning of the melody to the cadence ending the line.
Perhaps more education and less just deciding you're right because you say so, would bring you some insight into what music really is rather than just a concept you created. There are physics involved that explain why some things sound great to humans and some things don't. I mean really, go educate yourself before you manage to convince everyone you're musically Illiterate.

just my 2 cents

(*The Noonward Race*) 01-08-2013 02:37 AM

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