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mfb 05-29-2009 09:02 PM

^So recover every drum machine program you had and then delete the ones that you didn't use when you see which is which.

Gattsu347 05-29-2009 09:02 PM

i posted songs in the comp thread

Mr. Pickle 05-30-2009 01:31 AM

/bought Microkorg

/loves Microkorg

Spaceman Spiff 05-30-2009 08:38 AM

[QUOTE=Mr. Pickle;17269991]/bought Microkorg

/loves Microkorg[/QUOTE]

Yeah, it's a pretty awesome little thing.

EADGCF 05-30-2009 08:45 AM

Here is the updated list of things I want:

Traynor tube amp
Korg synth
Piano
4 string bass
Acoustic guitar with preamp


and the impractical

Harpsichord
Violin
Double bass
Glockenspiel
Celeste

and probably more.

Epidemechanical 05-30-2009 08:50 AM

so looks like you want reason 4.0 matt

gaslight 05-30-2009 09:02 AM

[QUOTE=EADGCF;17270177]Here is the updated list of things I want:

Traynor tube amp
Korg synth
Piano
4 string bass
Acoustic guitar with preamp


and the impractical

Harpsichord
Violin
Double bass
Glockenspiel
Celeste

and probably more.[/QUOTE]

You don't have a 4 string bass?

Spaceman Spiff 05-30-2009 09:26 AM

I want an acoustic guitar. I have two electrics, I have a 6 string bass, and a synth.

It might be a useless purchase (but maybe not), but I kind of want a theremin. I have for a long time.

EADGCF 05-30-2009 09:29 AM

[QUOTE=Raayl;17270184]so looks like you want reason 4.0 matt[/QUOTE]

Sequencing is fine and all for composing and trying out ideas, but it's hardly a replacement for acoustic instruments. At least in a lot of stuff I do.


[QUOTE=gaslight;17270194]You don't have a 4 string bass?[/QUOTE]

No.

gaslight 05-30-2009 09:30 AM

Yeah, I'd never use Reason to actually try and replace an instrument. Nothing beats tactile interaction.

EADGCF 05-30-2009 09:33 AM

Timbre is also a big thing for me, although I understand it's not as big a deal to some people.

gaslight 05-30-2009 09:34 AM

Timbre is a huge deal, it's the defining feature of an instrument.

EADGCF 05-30-2009 09:36 AM

Well I meant quality of timbre, specifically. Synthetic or not. Some composers are totally happy with synthetic sounding instruments, some abhor them, and everything in between.

gaslight 05-30-2009 09:38 AM

Well yeah, sometimes you specifically want a cheesy synth sound, but that again is the importance of timbre.

Epidemechanical 05-30-2009 10:32 AM

reason acoustic instruments aren't synthetic...

gaslight 05-30-2009 10:41 AM

Even sampled notes of a real instrument still aren't the same when you get right down to it.

Epidemechanical 05-30-2009 11:07 AM

lol like either of you can tell the difference in the end

Epidemechanical 05-30-2009 11:12 AM

i most certainly cant and while im not any better than either of you sampled instruments in reason are already compressed and eq'd nicely to mix well with anything and they sound just as authentic as any real recording ive ever heard

its easier more convenient and it most certainly doesn't sacrifice quality or authenticity

Moon Flavor 05-30-2009 11:23 AM

[QUOTE=Raayl;17270299]i most certainly cant and while im not any better than either of you sampled instruments in reason are already compressed and eq'd nicely to mix well with anything and they sound just as authentic as any real recording ive ever heard

its easier more convenient and it most certainly doesn't sacrifice quality or authenticity[/QUOTE]

[IMG]http://www.austinchronicle.com/binary/3aedfde9/horse_****.jpg[/IMG]

You guys don't have image tags here? wtf is that

gaslight 05-30-2009 11:29 AM

Sampled instruments do sound nice because a lot of hard work has been done for you but that's basically the gist of them. A useful tool in the right hands, and they are a time saver too, but they are never a replacement for a good player playing a real instrument.

If audio quality matters more than what's being played then they're the ideal choice to get things done quickly, but eh, deep down that's not really a scene I'm into.

Epidemechanical 05-30-2009 11:54 AM

j/s its blatantly false to say reason instruments are "synthetic" they are not

Epidemechanical 05-30-2009 11:55 AM

[QUOTE=honeydutchautopsy;17270309][IMG]http://www.austinchronicle.com/binary/3aedfde9/horse_****.jpg[/IMG]

You guys don't have image tags here? wtf is that[/QUOTE]

im sure that was real clever and cutting too bad ill never see it

Moon Flavor 05-30-2009 12:39 PM

[QUOTE=Raayl;17270334]im sure that was real clever and cutting too bad ill never see it[/QUOTE]

it was a picture of horse **** :smoke:

But dudely, samples are better than synthetic noise yeah but you don't get any feel or accents or soul or the ever-so-slightly off time feel that comes with having a human play the instrument

BenJammin 05-30-2009 01:01 PM

I like composing with Reason. Most of the sounds are good, and fit well in a mix with other sounds. Here's a piece I just finished the other day:

[url]http://soundcloud.com/ben-lesser/forget-me-not[/url]

EADGCF 05-30-2009 01:04 PM

[QUOTE=Raayl;17270332]j/s its blatantly false to say reason instruments are "synthetic" they are not[/QUOTE]

Synthetic no, sampled yes. It's not so much the timbre itself as how it's sequenced. The discrepancies between player to player are a huge component of the recording. Especially when you're doing work in the classical realm, performers can interpret the music [I]very[/I] differently.


[QUOTE=Raayl;17270292]lol like either of you can tell the difference in the end[/QUOTE]

Timbre-wise not really, but sometimes you just need a human feel. And there are lots of things you can communicate to a musician with ease that are either impossible to do in Reason, or just too much of a bother.


[QUOTE=Raayl;17270299]i most certainly cant and while im not any better than either of you sampled instruments in reason are already compressed and eq'd nicely to mix well with anything and they sound just as authentic as any real recording ive ever heard

its easier more convenient and it most certainly doesn't sacrifice quality or authenticity[/QUOTE]

That's one thing I don't like about Reason, how the instruments are already so processed and loaded with effects and whatnot - I usually end up turning most it not all of it off. Not that I'm opposed to processing my tracks, but I'd prefer to work with something dry first and go from there.

Epidemechanical 05-30-2009 01:19 PM

[QUOTE=honeydutchautopsy;17270387]it was a picture of horse **** :smoke:

But dudely, samples are better than synthetic noise yeah but you don't get any feel or accents or soul or the ever-so-slightly off time feel that comes with having a human play the instrument[/QUOTE]

assuming i think human players have a soul in the first place

Epidemechanical 05-30-2009 01:20 PM

idk why this turned into a REASON IS BETTER THAN EVERYTHING argument i was simply bringing up the fact that reason acoustic instruments are [I]not[/I] synthetic

Moon Flavor 05-30-2009 01:26 PM

[QUOTE=Raayl;17270184]so looks like you want reason 4.0 matt[/QUOTE]

This ^^^

Epidemechanical 05-30-2009 01:46 PM

[QUOTE=honeydutchautopsy;17270461]This ^^^[/QUOTE]

yah

Moon Flavor 05-30-2009 01:56 PM

THE MAN WANTED A ****ING HARPSICHORD

if everyone were a negative nancy like you sade we'd just sit around arguing with eachother all day

which is NOT what we do here it's just not


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