Water

[TerranYouApart]

So yeah there's a lot of people on the planet. Lots of gross rivers and lakes. Drinking water is already scarce in some places. The oceans are full of water, but we can't drink it.

We have water desalination plants already, but they use a ton of energy and while "worth it" there is probably a better way. Which i thought of last night while falling asleep.

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/rr323/disablingpeach/fdafd.jpg

water comes in from the ocean in a pipe. the glass dome acts as a magnifying glass and evaporates the water quickly. the vapor then condenses on the pipe, crystal clear and no salt. (ready to drink) this is obviously very simplified, but i think it is plausible.

maybe one of you crazy capitalists can steal and put motion to my idea here i'll be happy just knowing i saved the world.

[Maxibon]

ummm

[suspect device]

does your system guarantee the 100% removal of traces of chicken breast growth hormones and contraceptive pills?

[Catfish BROnes]

because the ocean is an infinite source of water and we don't need it at all.

ok then.

[TerranYouApart]

does your system guarantee the 100% removal of traces of chicken breast growth hormones and contraceptive pills?

i don't know, can you find those elements in steam?

maxibon, where is the flaw in this idea? that is why i posted it here, because it seems like such a simple solution to a nagging question.

[Maxibon]

i dont know man you'd think all of the experts in this field would have tried this great idea by now

luckily they have you to innovate for them

[TerranYouApart]

i dont know man you'd think all of the experts in this field would have tried this great idea by now

luckily they have you to innovate for them

why are you such a dick? you'd think they would have, but i can't find anything like this on the internet. now feel free to tell me the flaws.

[Maxibon]

im thinking the reason they havent

is

its stupid

[TerranYouApart]

how? all it requires is the structure and a pump. current desalination plants require so much energy they are often placed next to power plants.

[Maxibon]

what do you mean how

do you seriously think people havent though of this before

[stevensonmat2]

hey go patent it make millions laugh from on high your cloud of purity

[here comes the bird flu]

who would have thought that the solution to the world's water problem would be thought up on some online forum

[TerranYouApart]

what do you mean how

do you seriously think people havent though of this before

dude chill out i already gave you permission to steal the idea. like i said, i can't find anything about it on the internet. if you can i'd be really interested to read about why it won't work (because you obviously can't tell me)

[stevensonmat2]

what makes you think the glass dome will automatically act as a magnifying glass?

build a model, see if it works.

[Maxibon]

i can tell you why it wont work but i think it might be wasted on you

or it will 'work'

but why nobody would ever use it

[TerranYouApart]

green houses work similarly. just any sort of apparatus that lets the light in and traps the heat would work.

tell me, maxibon. don't be scared this thread is merely for discussion.

[siva_chair]

Omg lol

[Chris Is Gay]

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/rr323/disablingpeach/fdafd.jpg


Old

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_still

And apparently they don't scale well

Why do druggies think their ideas are so great

Does LSD disrupt the critical thinking process

[Mr. Ron]

Massive die-offs


we can only hope

[free_thinkers_are_dangerous]

I think they already make portable ones for hikers and stuff. I don't see why this idea wouldn't work as long as you could find a way to efficiently condense and collect the steam, but it seems like you'd probably be better off using the land to put up solar panels or wind turbines.

[Chris Is Gay]

I propose the foundation of a colony for druggies with terrible ideas

They can use a magnifying glass light house to distill water in the desert

[Mr. Ron]

lol

[Chris Is Gay]

LSD gives you creative insights maaaaaaaaaan

[Mr. Ron]

Ijust want to say how wow'd I am by the ascendant beauty of that illustration, OP.

[Chris Is Gay]

Ijust want to say how wow'd I am by the ascendant beauty of that illustration, OP.

http://i26.tinypic.com/2cftilg.png

[Mr. Ron]

4 me 2 poop ohn

[Chris Is Gay]

the brown scribble looks a lot like steaming poop, just look

[TerranYouApart]

Old

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_still

And apparently they don't scale well

Why do druggies think their ideas are so great

Does LSD disrupt the critical thinking process
my idea puts water desalination in a practical light with minimal energy usage, not gathering water from a leaf. but whatever. be dicks about it, i don't see anyone else sharing their ideas.

[siva_chair]

I have an idea:

Cut stupid regulations on nuke power so research into Thorium derived nuke energy can become realistic and flourish, and then the huge amount of power required for effective desalination facilities will become virtually a non-issue.

[Chris Is Gay]

my idea puts water desalination in a practical light with minimal energy usage, not gathering water from a leaf. but whatever. be dicks about it, i don't see anyone else sharing their ideas.

An idea I had walking home was to use the mechanics of the visual cortex to abstract vector images from raster images

I can see plenty of applications for this method from image compression to rotoscoping (like in that movie A Scanner Darkly), depending on which level of abstraction in the visual cortex you use

Why I might even flesh this idea out fully in grad school

By that time of course you'll still probably be a druggie with lots of useless ideas

You haven't even explained how your "greenhouse" would work physically

[TerranYouApart]

Omg lol

only if the nuclear plants are in your back yard and they deposit the waste in mountains at the mouths of your water sources.

a greenhouse is a ****ing greenhouse. if the sun shines inside of your car all day, it's a lot ****ing hotter than the temperature outside. does condescending me for keeping the jargon to a minimum make you feel more superior?

[siva_chair]

Omg lol

only if the nuclear plants are in your back yard and they deposit the waste in mountains at the mouths of your water sources.

You clearly don't understand how nuclear power plants work, do you?

[TerranYouApart]

yeah i have no idea except for my dad works at the biggest one in the united states and i've done tons of research just forgot it all just in time to reply to this thread tho

[Chris Is Gay]

a greenhouse is a ****ing greenhouse. if the sun shines inside of your car all day, it's a lot ****ing hotter than the temperature outside.

Ok but is this effect enough to evaporate large amounts of water? Does it scale well?

[siva_chair]

yeah i have no idea except for my dad works at the biggest one in the united states and i've done tons of research just forgot it all just in time to reply to this thread tho

Then you know that 95% of a spent nuclear fuel rod is natural uranium. A nuclear reactor's "waste" can be reused to refuel it.

You'd also know that the radioactive part constitutes only about 5%, and of that, half is uranium and plutonium, and so it can be recycled as fuel (mixed-oxide fuel), which is exactly what the French have been doing for about 25 years now. They store all their "waste" in one room, under La Hague, which is about the size of a basketball gymnasium. 25 years worth. The only reason the US currently has 50k tons of nuclear "waste," is because our government won't allow nuclear plants to reuse it (Thank you horrible president Jimmy Carter).

And all this is uranium based nuke power. Thorium based is even theoretically a better source.

Nuclear energy is the cleanest, most efficient energy we have by a long shot. But you already knew that, amirite?

[TerranYouApart]

i can think of a number of ways to increase the surface exposure of the water so that it evaporates faster. a number of materials you could use to trap light inside the dome or arch.

[Chris Is Gay]

Oh what are they

I have a feeling "high yield mineral fields" are going to be involved

[Smokey D]

Nuclear fuel is probably cleaner than carbon based energy. We should just designate some place no-one cares about like Utah as the world's nuclear fuel waste dump and then we'd solve all our energy needs until we develop fusion.



LSD gives you creative insights maaaaaaaaaan

Are you trying to become the worst poster here.

[Chris Is Gay]

Nuclear fuel is probably cleaner than carbon based energy. We should just designate some place no-one cares about like Camden as the world's nuclear fuel waste dump and then we'd solve all our energy needs until we develop fusion

fix'd

[Smokey D]

Also, isn't this idea basically the same as the principle behind those mirror field solar power stations, except that we're doing something with the water afterwards?

[siva_chair]

Nuclear fuel is probably cleaner than carbon based energy. We should just designate some place no-one cares about like Utah as the world's nuclear fuel waste dump and then we'd solve all our energy needs until we develop fusion.

You wouldn't even need much of Utah if powerplants were allowed to reuse.

Even less so with Thorium. The only reason thorium wasn't used originally was because it didn't produce waste that could be used for weapons grade plutonium. Thank you governments and their dick swinging competitions.

[Chris Is Gay]

i can think of a number of ways to increase the surface exposure of the water so that it evaporates faster. a number of materials you could use to trap light inside the dome or arch.

What are these methods Already_Taken knows of

The world may never know

[Smokey D]

I don't get why it's so unfeasible. We already pretty much do it.

[Chris Is Gay]

Solar desalination is already widespread but not in this nebulous form

[Chris Is Gay]

water comes in from the ocean in a pipe. the glass dome acts as a magnifying glass

:lol:

[siva_chair]

:lol:

It is kinda like a bong, but it has a lens that magnifies stuff like words that old people can't read.

[Chris Is Gay]

This thread delivers

[Aaron]

So I guys, I have this idea for how we can purify water. Here's my first draft:
http://i31.tinypic.com/30tl7px.jpg

[Mr. Ron]

I agree that we should build more nuke facilities. The French think its OK, ffs.

[Meatplow]

I for one appreciated the diagram.

So I guys, I have this idea for how we can purify water. Here's my first draft:
http://i31.tinypic.com/30tl7px.jpg

boiling salt

[TerranYouApart]

:lol:

what would be the problem with making a big magnifying glass and focusing the sun's rays on a shallow pool of water? i don't get what is so funny.. :confused:

[jaredong]

apparently, as i was looking around the interwebs...just to ref this video at the end:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sqRvUzqDCE

apparently pollution and other junk *also* evaporates and gets collected (like acid rain) So... it definitely requires a more complex system of filters.

Not to mention, I'm not entirely sure, but people require lots of water on demand. Waiting for water to evaporate slowly, being dependent on the weather/climate, etc wont exactly meet people's demands quickly.

[TerranYouApart]

right on, although this idea was just to desalinate the water, not really to purify it.

if there were a way to "flash" evaporate the water maybe the idea would work better on a mass scale. i wasn't really thinking of that stuff, just the principle.

[Maxibon]

if there were a way to "flash" evaporate the water maybe the idea would work better on a mass scale.
i like how its so obvious you looked up wiki for better methods to appear less like a retard

[TerranYouApart]

...? i didn't though.. lol

do you really think i care if you think i'm a retard? do you see the things i type up here? my entire existence is a troll on mankind

[here comes the bird flu]

TerranYouApart the fact that you are still here trying to tell people you aren't retarded makes you look even more retarded

[TerranYouApart]

i was in fact affirming that i say retarded things so you all have every right to believe i am so. the fact that you can't read makes me want to tuck you into bed after a nice reading of berenstein bears :)

[stevensonmat2]

thread gets 3/10

[here comes the bird flu]

i was in fact affirming that i say retarded things so you all have every right to believe i am so. the fact that you can't read makes me want to tuck you into bed after a nice reading of berenstein bears :)

you, sir, are an idiot

[TerranYouApart]

you, sir, are an idiot

jump on the bandwagon big boy they got plenty of room

[Chris Is Gay]

what would be the problem with making a big magnifying glass and focusing the sun's rays on a shallow pool of water? i don't get what is so funny.. :confused:

That's going to evaporate pissy amounts of water at a time, isn't it?

I like how you troll me on AIM telling me I'll never amount to anything (at the ripe old age of 21) and then come on here and show us an MS Paint doodle you seem to believe worthy of a Nobel prize

[Maxibon]

I'll never amount to anything
neither of you will but at least you can pretend you might

[Chris Is Gay]

**** off I'm going to become a doctor

[Maxibon]

now that doesnt really mean anything

[Chris Is Gay]

**** off I'm going to become a researcher

And maybe even work for DARPA

And definitely not be a druggie

[Maxibon]

all of those things have been done before

[Chris Is Gay]

Yeah I know, just not much

Why oh why to mediocre people like chode want everyone to be like them

Why

[Maxibon]

why would i want you to be like me if what i think you should do is something that hasnt been done

that doesnt even make sense, bro

[Chris Is Gay]

Well all researchers do something new, that's why they're called researchers

[Maxibon]

some new things are more worthwhile than other new things

but terranyouapart is a waiter or something i think you've got him beat well done

[Chris Is Gay]

I think understanding the neocortex is pretty worthwhile

[stevensonmat2]

**** off I'm going to become a researcher

And maybe even work for DARPA

And definitely not be a druggie

as of now you're laughable

[Chris Is Gay]

Druggies are thuper-thenthitive to criticism

[stevensonmat2]

im js all these silly arguments arent very becoming of a future DARPA dude

[Chris Is Gay]

Huh? How? People who want to be researchers aren't allowed to troll fora?

[stevensonmat2]

I guess so but I would think their time better spent, I dunno, researching things.

[Chris Is Gay]

I don't think anyone spends 100% of their time on their specialty and besides I'm going back to uni in a few months

[Chris Is Gay]

You know kind of like how you're a druggie but you don't spend 100% of your time doing drugs

[stevensonmat2]

Well I wouldn't say I'm a druggie but I see your point.

[gregulus]

Then you know that 95% of a spent nuclear fuel rod is natural uranium. A nuclear reactor's "waste" can be reused to refuel it.
Sadly, the U.S. won't re-use spent rods because regenerating the rods requires the same techniques used to build a nuclear bomb. It's sort of silly.

[Chris Is Gay]

Here in the U.S. we're against nuclear weapons

[Maxibon]

every country should have nukes

[Maxibon]

also didnt siva already make that point about government retardation

i think he did but i wont check

[gregulus]

They just need to build more nuclear power plants and regenerate rods.

[Maxibon]

they need to do a lot of things

but they wont

[siva_chair]

also didnt siva already make that point about government retardation

i think he did but i wont check

Why yes, yes I did.