jrowa001
07-20-2009, 11:38 PM
this is an argument my sister (J. R.) had with a couple girls on facebook. im seriously ashamed to know this is how my sister thinks. a year ago she was baptized Mormon so she thinks she knows everything and she thinks shes a perfect Christian when in reality Mormons arent Christians even though they claim they are.
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J. R.
being a christian liberal is such an oxy-moron. stop being hypocrites.
K. A.
I disagree. I am a Christian AND a liberal. Liberal is not a dirty word. The only issue is abortion and I am pro-life. We should not be narrowly defined by broad terms. Separation of church and state exists to PROTECT our rights
J. R.
it's all or nothing. if you believe in scripture and in Jesus Christ, you can't pick and choose what you believe in and fight for. it's all or nothing. and im not here to argue, just stating the facts.
K. A.
im not picking or choosing. that is MY belief in Christianity.
J. R.
lets just agree to disagree. you have your own way of believing and I have the truth.
K. A.
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" Evelyn Beatrice Hall
J. R.
"He who ignores discipline despises himself, but whoever heeds correction gains understanding" Proverbs 15:32
Scripture is truth!
K. A.
"How can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,' when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye." Luke 6:42
J. R.
that is taken out of context
K. A.
No, it is not. It is extremely important that you call forth God's judgment with complete nonattachment and with a feeling of pure love. Pure love, divine love, is unconditional, and therefore it has no expectations of other people... Read More’s reactions. If you give the judgment call from a position of pure love, you have no anger towards the people or forces for whom you are calling forth the judgment. You feel only love, and you are holding the vision that they will take the opportunity afforded by the judgment and turn themselves around. The simple fact is that everything that was ever created by God was created from the only begotten Son of the Father, namely the universal Christ consciousness. Therefore, all souls have a Christ potential and the Living Christ is lying dormant within the soul.
Basically, you cant stand on a faulty platform. Better yourself, look inward, strive towards the teachings of Christ, and stand without sin before the Father. THAT is our goal as Christians
K. L.
Kayte, you should write a book. This is an arguement I have engaged in many a time. If you don't mind, I will quote you if the occasion arises again.
J. R.
so...is everybody against the truth of scripture here?
K. L.
Nobody is against the truth of scripture.The point is that the way people may interpret or apply scripture may vary based on a persons life journey and experiences, and even the place they are at in their life. E.G.: John 3:16 was just a nice phrase to me in high school, but now knowing and loving my niece as I do, I understand the full magnitude ... Read Moreof God sending us His Son. The key is not to cast judgement on others, but to tell them the truth and let them make their own choices. That is the beauty of free will. And in the end, only God can know our hearts and the reason behind our choices and beliefs.
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J. R.
being a christian liberal is such an oxy-moron. stop being hypocrites.
K. A.
I disagree. I am a Christian AND a liberal. Liberal is not a dirty word. The only issue is abortion and I am pro-life. We should not be narrowly defined by broad terms. Separation of church and state exists to PROTECT our rights
J. R.
it's all or nothing. if you believe in scripture and in Jesus Christ, you can't pick and choose what you believe in and fight for. it's all or nothing. and im not here to argue, just stating the facts.
K. A.
im not picking or choosing. that is MY belief in Christianity.
J. R.
lets just agree to disagree. you have your own way of believing and I have the truth.
K. A.
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" Evelyn Beatrice Hall
J. R.
"He who ignores discipline despises himself, but whoever heeds correction gains understanding" Proverbs 15:32
Scripture is truth!
K. A.
"How can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,' when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye." Luke 6:42
J. R.
that is taken out of context
K. A.
No, it is not. It is extremely important that you call forth God's judgment with complete nonattachment and with a feeling of pure love. Pure love, divine love, is unconditional, and therefore it has no expectations of other people... Read More’s reactions. If you give the judgment call from a position of pure love, you have no anger towards the people or forces for whom you are calling forth the judgment. You feel only love, and you are holding the vision that they will take the opportunity afforded by the judgment and turn themselves around. The simple fact is that everything that was ever created by God was created from the only begotten Son of the Father, namely the universal Christ consciousness. Therefore, all souls have a Christ potential and the Living Christ is lying dormant within the soul.
Basically, you cant stand on a faulty platform. Better yourself, look inward, strive towards the teachings of Christ, and stand without sin before the Father. THAT is our goal as Christians
K. L.
Kayte, you should write a book. This is an arguement I have engaged in many a time. If you don't mind, I will quote you if the occasion arises again.
J. R.
so...is everybody against the truth of scripture here?
K. L.
Nobody is against the truth of scripture.The point is that the way people may interpret or apply scripture may vary based on a persons life journey and experiences, and even the place they are at in their life. E.G.: John 3:16 was just a nice phrase to me in high school, but now knowing and loving my niece as I do, I understand the full magnitude ... Read Moreof God sending us His Son. The key is not to cast judgement on others, but to tell them the truth and let them make their own choices. That is the beauty of free will. And in the end, only God can know our hearts and the reason behind our choices and beliefs.