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Stevie
07-20-2009, 09:36 AM
sorry for posting this thread in the first place; i don't find the essentials thread all too useful.

can anyone recommend where forth i should venture with rap considering my tastes? i'm currently listening to a lot of public enemy, nwa, run dmc, some 2pac, ice cube. i cannot tolerate the dogshit album 'the chronic' by dr. dre. it sounds like a big sellout softcore load of shit. i generally cannot stand the soft songs on rap albums, nor can i stand the stuff you see on mtv, that 'rnb' crap. i only really enjoy violent rap songs, artists, that don't do any of the soft crap. anyway, enough rambling, please suggest

ta!

Rams
07-20-2009, 09:43 AM
Black Nasty - Bitch Named Frank

most ruthless song ever.

kingsoby1
07-20-2009, 11:30 AM
the essentials list.

Stevie
07-20-2009, 02:09 PM
when albums i despise are listed alongside albums i like it sort of renders the essentials list obsolete doesn't it you fucking retard

griftadan
07-20-2009, 02:11 PM
it's ok dude nobody thinks you're gay

well

iarescientists
07-20-2009, 02:12 PM
if you stop acting like a faggot you might start to like them

Glitterati
07-20-2009, 03:49 PM
when albums i despise are listed alongside albums i like it sort of renders the essentials list obsolete doesn't it you fucking retard

ahahahahhahaha

JonG
07-20-2009, 04:40 PM
http://rateyourmusic.com/list/JonGersdorf/essential_hip_hop_albums

my list off RYM.

if you dont like any of those...leave

Stevie
07-20-2009, 04:51 PM
thanks, that's what i'm looking for

Glitterati
07-20-2009, 05:53 PM
n.w.a. and the worst beastie boys album

****ing white people

kingsoby1
07-20-2009, 06:52 PM
if you despise stuff on the essentials list, you're probably dumb tbh.

illmitch
07-20-2009, 09:49 PM
if you want violent **** just get three 6 mafia's entire discography

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5wLdkQxsJg

Glitterati
07-20-2009, 10:37 PM
if you despise stuff on the essentials list, you're probably dumb tbh.

straight outta compton/n.w.a. in general is/are very highly overrated by suburban white people, and licensed to ill has terrible production and pretty much anything the beasties did after tops it

they're pretty far from essential

edit - and I second the Three 6 Mafia suggestion.

kingsoby1
07-20-2009, 11:45 PM
yeah

iarescientists
07-20-2009, 11:48 PM
wait did liam just make a post in the hip-hop forum without mentioning wu-tang

kingsoby1
07-20-2009, 11:52 PM
new wu tang is okay

iarescientists
07-20-2009, 11:54 PM
i like evil deeds

beat is classy as ****

kingsoby1
07-20-2009, 11:57 PM
i really wanna hear a new rza produced ghostface record.

and surprisingly the new u-god isn't awful.

niobium
07-21-2009, 12:04 AM
licensed to ill has terrible production and pretty much anything the beasties did after tops ityou suck

Apocalyptic Raids
07-21-2009, 02:18 AM
mobb deep - the infamous...

straight outta compton/n.w.a. in general is/are very highly overrated by suburban white people, and licensed to ill has terrible production and pretty much anything the beasties did after tops it

they're pretty far from essential
straight outta compton might have some crap tracks and stuff but it's still completely essential.

Stevie
07-21-2009, 03:56 AM
nice illmitch :)

to kingsoby1, don't call me dumb for not liking the same music as you, especially when i give reasons for not liking the stuff

Glitterati
07-21-2009, 04:05 AM
the reason you gave is what makes you dumb

oh i went there

Wish
07-21-2009, 04:11 AM
Task Force.

Isn't particularly violent, but lyrically really deep.

ATM
07-21-2009, 08:56 AM
Brotha Lynch Hung

kingsoby1
07-21-2009, 11:16 AM
just sayin it's pretty hard to actually "hate" anything on that list... pretty much bonafide classic records.

12yearold
07-21-2009, 11:54 AM
gucci mane

greentea89
07-21-2009, 12:33 PM
the new mos def album is soo good!

illmitch
07-21-2009, 02:11 PM
gucci gucci gucci gucci

Rams
07-21-2009, 02:30 PM
just sayin it's pretty hard to actually "hate" anything on that list... pretty much bonafide classic records.

There's nothing on that list that is that good and certainly nothing like what he said he liked.

Geto Boys, Onyx, Black Moon, 2 Live Crew, Coolio or random one hit wonders like Mad Cobra is my suggestion.

Kenny Dope's Hip-Hop Forever samples disc has some quality stuff on it. His remixes are good too.

kingsoby1
07-21-2009, 02:32 PM
yeah there is.

horseypie
07-21-2009, 07:46 PM
the fact that he didnt like anything at all off the chronic is a little disheartening though

niobium
07-21-2009, 11:07 PM
oh my god yes discussion is taking place

take kanye off the list. add... something better

nevertoolate
07-22-2009, 12:39 AM
http://rateyourmusic.com/list/JonGersdorf/essential_hip_hop_albums

my list off RYM.

if you dont like any of those...leave

pretty decent list I agree with at least 30-35 of those. good stuff.

illmitch
07-22-2009, 12:45 AM
i agree with probably half, but (who guessed it) would put more southern rap and modern rap

nevertoolate
07-22-2009, 12:49 AM
i hear ya mitch, but being and old bastard I'll go the other way toward more old school.

Stevie
07-22-2009, 05:26 PM
i don't hate everything about the chronic. i actually quite like stranded on death row and perhaps the day the niggaz took over. i can't relate to da hood nor thug life because i never lived that life. i'm really not interested in rappers talking about how they're a sex machine nor how they got big bucks or somking weed or whatever. i come from a metal background in music and i like violent music, there's nothing stupid or immature about that. when i hear the chronic i just hear the rap equivalent of load by metallica. maybe that's ignorant, maybe there's more to it than that, but either way it just bores me and irritates me when rappers seem to big up themselves more than they talk about life on the streets. there's nothing in that music for me, there's nothing for me to relate to. ugh i don't know i haven't listened to the chronic in a while so my memory isn't great either, so maybe i'm wrong about its content but that was my impression.

thanks for further suggestions :)

illmitch
07-22-2009, 05:46 PM
thats weird, because i come from a metal background in music (which has since changed a lot) and i loved the chronic when i first heard it

horseypie
07-22-2009, 06:19 PM
murder ink is on the chronic i think (maybe its on 2001) and so is lyrical gangbang which i kinda thought was the angry violent rap you enjoyed :S

maybe try early eminem because he was pissed at kim in those days

Glitterati
07-22-2009, 07:50 PM
i come from a metal background in music and i like violent music

just warning you most rap songs (even the violent ones) don't have blastbeats

and they don't wear corpse paint either

just so you're not setting yourself to be disappointed

kingsoby1
07-22-2009, 08:38 PM
when albums i despise are listed alongside albums i like it sort of renders the essentials list obsolete doesn't it you fucking retard

help im an angsty teen and i cant get up

horseypie
07-22-2009, 09:50 PM
just warning you most rap songs (even the violent ones) don't have blastbeats

and they don't wear corpse paint either

just so you're not setting yourself to be disappointed

metal |= blastbeats and corpse paint

Apocalyptic Raids
07-22-2009, 11:18 PM
murder ink is on the chronic i think (maybe its on 2001) and so is lyrical gangbang which i kinda thought was the angry violent rap you enjoyed :S

maybe try early eminem because he was pissed at kim in those days
murder ink is 2001

horseypie
07-23-2009, 01:13 AM
i knew it was one of them

Stevie
07-23-2009, 05:17 AM
just warning you most rap songs (even the violent ones) don't have blastbeats

and they don't wear corpse paint either

just so you're not setting yourself to be disappointed

hilarious

Catfish BROnes
07-23-2009, 06:56 AM
The Chronic rules.

gtfo

Glitterati
07-23-2009, 12:14 PM
hilarious

well you make it so ez

JonG
07-23-2009, 02:39 PM
i agree with straight outta compton not being amazing, but as far as putting west coast on the map and giving a 180 to hip-hop, then yes it is essential.

licensed to ill is a classic and is about as essential as paul's boutique, both of which i love and had a hard time deciding.

in other news:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_R-D3Tf2JU