Recommendations if you please

[Stevie]

sorry for posting this thread in the first place; i don't find the essentials thread all too useful.

can anyone recommend where forth i should venture with rap considering my tastes? i'm currently listening to a lot of public enemy, nwa, run dmc, some 2pac, ice cube. i cannot tolerate the dogshit album 'the chronic' by dr. dre. it sounds like a big sellout softcore load of shit. i generally cannot stand the soft songs on rap albums, nor can i stand the stuff you see on mtv, that 'rnb' crap. i only really enjoy violent rap songs, artists, that don't do any of the soft crap. anyway, enough rambling, please suggest

ta!

[Rams]

Black Nasty - Bitch Named Frank

most ruthless song ever.

[kingsoby1]

the essentials list.

[Stevie]

when albums i despise are listed alongside albums i like it sort of renders the essentials list obsolete doesn't it you fucking retard

[griftadan]

it's ok dude nobody thinks you're gay

well

[iarescientists]

if you stop acting like a faggot you might start to like them

[Glitterati]

when albums i despise are listed alongside albums i like it sort of renders the essentials list obsolete doesn't it you fucking retard

ahahahahhahaha

[JonG]

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/JonGersdorf/essential_hip_hop_albums

my list off RYM.

if you dont like any of those...leave

[Stevie]

thanks, that's what i'm looking for

[Glitterati]

n.w.a. and the worst beastie boys album

****ing white people

[kingsoby1]

if you despise stuff on the essentials list, you're probably dumb tbh.

[illmitch]

if you want violent **** just get three 6 mafia's entire discography

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5wLdkQxsJg

[Glitterati]

if you despise stuff on the essentials list, you're probably dumb tbh.

straight outta compton/n.w.a. in general is/are very highly overrated by suburban white people, and licensed to ill has terrible production and pretty much anything the beasties did after tops it

they're pretty far from essential

edit - and I second the Three 6 Mafia suggestion.

[kingsoby1]

yeah

[iarescientists]

wait did liam just make a post in the hip-hop forum without mentioning wu-tang

[kingsoby1]

new wu tang is okay

[iarescientists]

i like evil deeds

beat is classy as ****

[kingsoby1]

i really wanna hear a new rza produced ghostface record.

and surprisingly the new u-god isn't awful.

[niobium]

licensed to ill has terrible production and pretty much anything the beasties did after tops ityou suck

[Apocalyptic Raids]

mobb deep - the infamous...

straight outta compton/n.w.a. in general is/are very highly overrated by suburban white people, and licensed to ill has terrible production and pretty much anything the beasties did after tops it

they're pretty far from essential
straight outta compton might have some crap tracks and stuff but it's still completely essential.

[Stevie]

nice illmitch :)

to kingsoby1, don't call me dumb for not liking the same music as you, especially when i give reasons for not liking the stuff

[Glitterati]

the reason you gave is what makes you dumb

oh i went there

[Wish]

Task Force.

Isn't particularly violent, but lyrically really deep.

[ATM]

Brotha Lynch Hung

[kingsoby1]

just sayin it's pretty hard to actually "hate" anything on that list... pretty much bonafide classic records.

[12yearold]

gucci mane

[greentea89]

the new mos def album is soo good!

[illmitch]

gucci gucci gucci gucci

[Rams]

just sayin it's pretty hard to actually "hate" anything on that list... pretty much bonafide classic records.

There's nothing on that list that is that good and certainly nothing like what he said he liked.

Geto Boys, Onyx, Black Moon, 2 Live Crew, Coolio or random one hit wonders like Mad Cobra is my suggestion.

Kenny Dope's Hip-Hop Forever samples disc has some quality stuff on it. His remixes are good too.

[kingsoby1]

yeah there is.

[horseypie]

the fact that he didnt like anything at all off the chronic is a little disheartening though

[niobium]

oh my god yes discussion is taking place

take kanye off the list. add... something better

[nevertoolate]

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/JonGersdorf/essential_hip_hop_albums

my list off RYM.

if you dont like any of those...leave

pretty decent list I agree with at least 30-35 of those. good stuff.

[illmitch]

i agree with probably half, but (who guessed it) would put more southern rap and modern rap

[nevertoolate]

i hear ya mitch, but being and old bastard I'll go the other way toward more old school.

[Stevie]

i don't hate everything about the chronic. i actually quite like stranded on death row and perhaps the day the niggaz took over. i can't relate to da hood nor thug life because i never lived that life. i'm really not interested in rappers talking about how they're a sex machine nor how they got big bucks or somking weed or whatever. i come from a metal background in music and i like violent music, there's nothing stupid or immature about that. when i hear the chronic i just hear the rap equivalent of load by metallica. maybe that's ignorant, maybe there's more to it than that, but either way it just bores me and irritates me when rappers seem to big up themselves more than they talk about life on the streets. there's nothing in that music for me, there's nothing for me to relate to. ugh i don't know i haven't listened to the chronic in a while so my memory isn't great either, so maybe i'm wrong about its content but that was my impression.

thanks for further suggestions :)

[illmitch]

thats weird, because i come from a metal background in music (which has since changed a lot) and i loved the chronic when i first heard it

[horseypie]

murder ink is on the chronic i think (maybe its on 2001) and so is lyrical gangbang which i kinda thought was the angry violent rap you enjoyed :S

maybe try early eminem because he was pissed at kim in those days

[Glitterati]

i come from a metal background in music and i like violent music

just warning you most rap songs (even the violent ones) don't have blastbeats

and they don't wear corpse paint either

just so you're not setting yourself to be disappointed

[kingsoby1]

when albums i despise are listed alongside albums i like it sort of renders the essentials list obsolete doesn't it you fucking retard

help im an angsty teen and i cant get up

[horseypie]

just warning you most rap songs (even the violent ones) don't have blastbeats

and they don't wear corpse paint either

just so you're not setting yourself to be disappointed

metal |= blastbeats and corpse paint

[Apocalyptic Raids]

murder ink is on the chronic i think (maybe its on 2001) and so is lyrical gangbang which i kinda thought was the angry violent rap you enjoyed :S

maybe try early eminem because he was pissed at kim in those days
murder ink is 2001

[horseypie]

i knew it was one of them

[Stevie]

just warning you most rap songs (even the violent ones) don't have blastbeats

and they don't wear corpse paint either

just so you're not setting yourself to be disappointed

hilarious

[Catfish BROnes]

The Chronic rules.

gtfo

[Glitterati]

hilarious

well you make it so ez

[JonG]

i agree with straight outta compton not being amazing, but as far as putting west coast on the map and giving a 180 to hip-hop, then yes it is essential.

licensed to ill is a classic and is about as essential as paul's boutique, both of which i love and had a hard time deciding.

in other news:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_R-D3Tf2JU