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kitsch
07-17-2009, 03:56 PM
and overall clog the process up when the focus should be on more pressing issues.


animal rights

steroid use in professional sports

abortion

gun control

Light Flantastic
07-17-2009, 04:02 PM
um

for those last two its like a 50/50 opinion split in the population

and whats pressing to you isnt pressing to all people

kitsch
07-17-2009, 04:03 PM
yea they might have an opinion on it but the whole population doesnt throw a bitch fit about it

Light Flantastic
07-17-2009, 04:04 PM
thats true of everything ever

because people are dumb.

Mr. Ron
07-17-2009, 04:06 PM
Most people that are against gun control are normal people js

Meatplow
07-17-2009, 04:07 PM
farmers

farmers

farmers

those damn kids skateboarding on the sidewalk

JohnXDoe
07-17-2009, 04:26 PM
Republican

suspect device
07-17-2009, 06:12 PM
i'd have said pigs were a small band of radicals

Mr. Ron
07-17-2009, 11:28 PM
lol what

1338 h4x0r
07-17-2009, 11:35 PM
Radical left green anarchists advocating violence against transhumanists

Mr. Ron
07-17-2009, 11:38 PM
that would be a pretty interesting argument to see

rasputin
07-17-2009, 11:38 PM
i second farmers

Iskandar
07-17-2009, 11:53 PM
Radical right wing tax evaders advocating violence against the state.

1338 h4x0r
07-18-2009, 12:30 AM
that would be a pretty interesting argument to see

"Man, like, the CRAPITALISTS, man ... let's get'em!"

/transhumanists open up with GAU-8 attachments to their ponderous new bodies

Iskandar
07-18-2009, 01:25 AM
Transhumanism is a prime example of what this thread is about for me.

1338 h4x0r
07-18-2009, 01:48 AM
Yeah restoring vision to the blind "attracts a small band of radicals but Iskandar doesn't care about it"

Iskandar
07-18-2009, 01:49 AM
That's called prosthetics not transhumanism.

Transhumanism as properly defined is vaguely interesting but not really relevant until more advances in technology are made. It will be extremely relevant in the future, just not so much in the present.

1338 h4x0r
07-18-2009, 01:53 AM
Any time you transcend the limitations of biology, you are engaging in transhumanism. The only differences are in degree

I trust you use skin enhancement on a fairly regular basis Iskander

































aka "clothing"

Iskandar
07-18-2009, 02:00 AM
You're confusing two similar albeit related concepts. Transhumanism is the ideology that humans may be able to overcome their biological limitations though science. Wearing clothing or glasses is a singular example of this concept, but should not be taken as a pars pro toto.

Maybe my understanding of what transhumanism is differs from yours idk.

Either way my argument stands that transhumanism will become more relevant in the future as technology, particularly nanotechnology improves.

1338 h4x0r
07-18-2009, 02:15 AM
Maybe my understanding of what transhumanism is differs from yours idk.

I'm using a fairly common definition promoted by Nick Bostrom et al

Either way my argument stands that transhumanism will become more relevant in the future as technology, particularly nanotechnology improves.

I read publicly available DARPA documents about this kind of thing and it seems evident that our personal futures will be shaped by the nexus of nanotechnology, biology, cognitive science and information science. Those are the four fields working together now

Iskandar
07-18-2009, 02:23 AM
I thought transhumanists hold that we can, through technology, come to transcend the limits of our biological bodies including illness, aging and eventually maybe death. We're a long way from any of that, but technology does improve exponentially.
it seems evident that our personal futures will be shaped by the nexus of nanotechnology, biology, cognitive science and information science.They are extremely relevant now and will continue to be so, but don't hold your breath for the cyborg revolution.

1338 h4x0r
07-18-2009, 02:27 AM
They are extremely relevant now and will continue to be so, but don't hold your breath for the cyborg revolution.

I can't hold my breath for ~40 years but that's still not a very long time in the scheme of things

Iskandar
07-18-2009, 02:28 AM
In 40 years, technology will have improved quite a lot, I reckon.

Then transhumanism will become extremely relevant with time.

kitsch
07-18-2009, 02:23 PM
Republican

im not

suspect device
07-25-2009, 03:19 PM
lol what

well they tend to hang in small bunches and appear radical to the general public in their interpretation of the actual law they are supposed to uphold. so yeah, they are a small bunch of radicals

Against Miik!
07-25-2009, 09:07 PM
Gun rights are pretty important tbh. I wouldn't say its a make or break issue when voting for a candidate, but the rest of their platform would have to be pretty good if they were staunchly anti gun (which very few politicians actually are).