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[cobert]

I think Americans are fetishizing video of Neda Soltani’s death in a way they would not if she were a young, blonde, American college student shot down on an American street.

http://www.racialicious.com/2009/06/23/must-brown-people-be-martyred-for-americans-to-be-motivated/

I had the same thoughts as the blogger when I saw that girl bleeding to death all over CNN. The blog quoted in the beginning shares similar sentiments relating to a natural disaster in Burma.

Your thoughts?

[TheDarkHorse]

You have a point.

The image is being paraded to rally hate against the Islamic Republic, in the same way that Al-Jazeera broadcasts images of the damages resulting from U.S. airstrikes. Race in this matter is a secondary yet subconscious factor

[Jude]

I think people would be pretty pissed if she was blone

[Light Flantastic]

are iranians really brown i mean not really

[DBoons Ghost]

Was Sandra Krause or Sandra Lee Scheur blond? I don't recall.

[1338 h4x0r]

Well, Europe and the Anglo world aren't offering enough clips of people bursting into flames from Molotov cocktails, so more power to industrious foreigners, that's what I say

[gregulus]

I don't think it's necessarily a race thing as much as it is exposure to something that the vast majority of Americans can only barely imagine. It just so happens that white, middle class America is unaware of the plights that face different cultures, even within our own country. This is their own fault, though. By encouraging a media that focuses largely on irrelevant stories about missing persons or celebrities they allowed themselves to settle in a sort of complacency. It's not that they can't abandon this position, it's that they don't want to. They're comfortable in their bubble and, unless something happens within this bubble, it will take videos of people being arbitrarily murdered for political dissension and the aftermath of major natural disasters to get their attention.

[DBoons Ghost]

I don't think it's necessarily a race thing as much as it is exposure to something that the vast majority of Americans can only barely imagine. It just so happens that white, middle class America is unaware of the plights that face different cultures, even within our own country. This is their own fault, though. By encouraging a media that focuses largely on irrelevant stories about missing persons or celebrities they allowed themselves to settle in a sort of complacency. It's not that they can't abandon this position, it's that they don't want to. They're comfortable in their bubble and, unless something happens within this bubble, it will take videos of people being arbitrarily murdered for political dissension and the aftermath of major natural disasters to get their attention.

Wow Greg.

I ask again, was Sandra Krause or Sandra Lee Scheur blond? I don't recall. Maybe you should look into who they were?

[gregulus]

Wow Greg.

I ask again, was Sandra Krause or Sandra Lee Scheur blond? I don't recall. Maybe you should look into who they were?

I don't know what being blond has to do with anything. American attitudes in 1970 is not indicative of American attitudes at present. Do you really not recognize the things that I mentioned in my post?

[DBoons Ghost]

I don't know what being blond has to do with anything. American attitudes in 1970 is not indicative of American attitudes at present. Do you really not recognize the things that I mentioned in my post?

I do but what caught me was "I don't think it's necessarily a race thing as much as it is exposure to something that the vast majority of Americans can only barely imagine."

I find that part somewhat inaccurate, but the rest of your post makes perfect sense. We all did watch two towers fall some years ago. I guess it's not the same as watching a young girl die in the streets of Iran, but to say the vast majority of Americans can only barely imagine is a bit off.

[gregulus]

I do but what caught me was "I don't think it's necessarily a race thing as much as it is exposure to something that the vast majority of Americans can only barely imagine."

I find that part somewhat inaccurate, but the rest of your post makes perfect sense. We all did watch two towers fall some years ago. I guess it's not the same as watching a young girl die in the streets of Iran, but to say the vast majority of Americans can only barely imagine is a bit off.

The point of the piece is the depiction of such events, though. That is what I was referring to. Even when the WTC was hit, the media (at least in large part) stayed away from the more grizzly side it. It didn't require showing Americans how other Americans ended their life by jumping out of a window 70+ floors high to make them care. It shouldn't take watching some girl get murdered by pro-government militias in Iran to make them really care about that either, but it does. It's not terribly unexpected, though, and I'm sure it's like that in other countries as well. Americans are generally rather ignorant about events occurring in other parts of the world, though. At least comparatively speaking.

[DBoons Ghost]

The point of the piece is the depiction of such events, though. That is what I was referring to. Even when the WTC was hit, the media (at least in large part) stayed away from the more grizzly side it. It didn't require showing Americans how other Americans ended their life by jumping out of a window 70+ floors high to make them care. It shouldn't take watching some girl get murdered by pro-government militias in Iran to make them really care about that either, but it does. It's not terribly unexpected, though, and I'm sure it's like that in other countries as well. Americans are generally rather ignorant about events occurring in other parts of the world, though. At least comparatively speaking.

The media has yet to present that video.

They are talking about it, but to my knowledge none of them have shown it.

I had to dig on Youtube to find it, and even then I really found myself not interesting in watching it.

I think this guy's opinion is not worth debating, but we've had young college women gunned down in the street. I made that point, now you guys can hate on American media.

[cobert]

The media has yet to present that video.

They are talking about it, but to my knowledge none of them have shown it.


Seriously?

I can't get away from it; it's shown every time Iran gets brought up.

I had to dig on Youtube to find it, and even then I really found myself not interesting in watching it.

I'm not very interested in it either, that doesn't change the fact that they won't stop showing it on TV. I'd rather not watch a person dying, but that's what the news reports all eventually boil down to.

I think this guy's opinion is not worth debating, but we've had young college women gunned down in the street. I made that point, now you guys can hate on American media.

Nobody is claiming that NO video will EVER be shown of a white person dying, they're just claiming that it doesn't seem necessary to show gore in those cases to getting anybody worried about the situation. The Kent State shootings might have sparked just as much protest if there were no pictures.

Now that I have clarified, maybe it's worth debating.

I don't think it's necessarily a race thing as much as it is exposure to something that the vast majority of Americans can only barely imagine.

I think the latter can be contained within the former.

[beso negro]

it's human nature to hate to see beautiful women die

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/06/24/article-1195060-05720FEA000005DC-353_224x306.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/06/24/article-1195060-05720FE6000005DC-382_224x306.jpg

[Jude]

Americans are generally rather ignorant about events occurring in other parts of the world, though. At least comparatively speaking.

No

People everywhere are ignorant and retarded it's not just Americans

I don't know where this idea comes from that the entire population of every other country is well-informed and totally enlightened about every geopolitical situation on the globe

[McP3000]

he's an arrogant foreigner with his head in his ***, dont let him bother you

[gregulus]

he's an arrogant foreigner with his head in his ***, dont let him bother you

I'm from America, wtf.

[McP3000]

fine you're a self-defeatist american who needs to move

[cobert]

it's human nature to hate to see beautiful women die

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/06/24/article-1195060-05720FEA000005DC-353_224x306.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/06/24/article-1195060-05720FE6000005DC-382_224x306.jpg

That woman is white and smiling and very much alive in those pictures. I prove my point.

[gregulus]

fine you're a self-defeatist american who needs to move

lol.

[RetiredAt21]

fine you're a self-defeatist american who needs to move

I got the same vibe from that dude.

[beso negro]

it's human nature to hate to see beautiful women die

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/06/24/article-1195060-05720FEA000005DC-353_224x306.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/06/24/article-1195060-05720FE6000005DC-382_224x306.jpg

i still can't believe a person could shoot a girl this beautiful arggh

[cobert]

I don't really see what you're getting at here, I think you're probably trolling though.