View Full Version : Fire Throne: Christian Black Metal
imperialblackness
06-07-2009, 01:00 PM
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=52377
:lol: its black metal with christian lyrics..........lol
Ceminon
06-07-2009, 01:17 PM
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypocritical
Jaundice
06-07-2009, 01:32 PM
I think industrial and black metal are those two (sub) genres in existence that Christianity really shouldn't be incorporated into. Any thing else is fair game.
the2stranger
06-07-2009, 01:32 PM
Why not industrial?
:-\
The picture is hilarious.
alytee123
06-07-2009, 01:38 PM
Lame.
Jaundice
06-07-2009, 01:40 PM
Why not industrial?
:-\It wouldn't be such a fundamental contradiction as black metal, I'd just prefer not to see my favorite genre and my least favorite religion have kids.
the2stranger
06-07-2009, 01:40 PM
Lol, one of the dudes from that band is also in this band:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=37693
Lol @ this: Fire (bandmember) used to be a Satanist, but then became a Christian.
:lol:
imperialblackness
06-07-2009, 01:48 PM
:lol: omg thats hilarious
RetiredAt21
06-07-2009, 01:49 PM
Lol, one of the dudes from that band is also in this band:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=37693
Lol @ this: Fire (bandmember) used to be a Satanist, but then became a Christian.
:lol:
I lost it when I looked at that picture, lol.
Meatplow
06-07-2009, 02:03 PM
industrial and christianity can never be
i read up on this long ago and believe this genre is tentatively known as "Unblack Metal"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unblack_metal
RetiredAt21
06-07-2009, 02:05 PM
This "unblack metal" thing is just absurd.
the2stranger
06-07-2009, 02:08 PM
It is.
If you feel so opposed to black metal and anti christian sentiment, please stay as far away from the genre.
Don't try to get involved in it sideways.
****ers.
Meatplow
06-07-2009, 02:09 PM
However, early groups such as Horde and Antestor refused to call their music "black metal" because they felt that the style was strongly associated with Satanism. Horde called its music "holy unblack metal," and Antestor preferred to call their music "sorrow metal" instead.
Sorrow metal, now there is a well thought out idea.
RetiredAt21
06-07-2009, 02:11 PM
lol sorrow metal
****ing fags.
alytee123
06-07-2009, 02:15 PM
Let the church burning begin!
RetiredAt21
06-07-2009, 02:18 PM
You mean church building, I think.
imperialblackness
06-07-2009, 02:25 PM
Yeah we dont burn churches itt, we build them, and we worship Jesus with unblack metal in them
gingerfish
06-07-2009, 02:45 PM
no to this thread
Ceminon
06-07-2009, 03:53 PM
Besides, you can't start making black metal without first having listened to original black metal, to even know of the genre at all. And if you're a christian, you shouldn't have even been listening to that stuff in the first place.
imperialblackness
06-07-2009, 04:47 PM
Unblack metal is for satanists who have turned their lives over to the Lord
hismajestythepope
06-07-2009, 04:50 PM
i should make unblack metal
their best song is 'Hail Jesus, Holy Unblack Metal' imo
RetiredAt21
06-07-2009, 04:57 PM
hahaha
McP3000
06-07-2009, 04:59 PM
Besides, you can't start making black metal without first having listened to original black metal, to even know of the genre at all. And if you're a christian, you shouldn't have even been listening to that stuff in the first place.
stop talking
hismajestythepope
06-07-2009, 05:01 PM
okay plan:
black metal -> breakdown -> generic two step part
christian lyrics
McP3000
06-07-2009, 05:02 PM
okay plan:
black metal -> breakdown -> generic two step part
christian lyrics
texas blackcore
hismajestythepope
06-07-2009, 05:06 PM
no way PA BLACKENED GORESLAM
Jaundice
06-07-2009, 05:25 PM
dont some faggots call it white metal?
alytee123
06-07-2009, 05:36 PM
Beige Metal
RetiredAt21
06-07-2009, 05:39 PM
no way PA BLACKENED GORESLAM
Dude, I want in on this.
Bleekill
06-07-2009, 06:57 PM
How can people who worship the "prince of peace and light" love and make dark, evil music. It's a joke.
The Feeding
06-07-2009, 08:11 PM
ABR does it
Bleekill
06-07-2009, 08:38 PM
August Burns Red? They are metalcore. Black Metal is entirely different, it is way more focused on darkness and evil/pagan themes. The music itself is evil, I don't care if you are praising Jesus over it, it would be like an inversion of praise. Christian Metalcore isn't entirely bullshit because it goes for the power and aggression side. I can see how the "getting their demons out on stage" thing could be an explanation I guess. But I grew up in a Christian family and always heard the " focus on what is good and pure" quote from the Bible. So even being atheist/agnostic I don't really see how a Christian band could play dark and evil music, which is viewed as spiritual and should be used to praise God.
The Feeding
06-07-2009, 08:47 PM
that was a joke
Bleekill
06-07-2009, 08:53 PM
Thank god. I mean....
yeah the guitars are making EVIL SOUNDS that's AGAINST CHRIST BRO
also you're a pussy
Bleekill
06-07-2009, 09:12 PM
What the **** am I confused about? Black Metal is rebellion against everything, especially organized religions, so Christianity has no place there.
whatever, you should consider destroying your life for satan
alytee123
06-07-2009, 09:17 PM
So does anyone actually listen to Beige Metal?
Bleekill
06-07-2009, 09:24 PM
Nope, I don't believe in Satan. He is just used as an icon for rebellion, especially in metal.
Stormrider
06-07-2009, 09:26 PM
stop talking
I noticed that with anything related to Christianity, you seem to like calling people out on 'not getting it' or 'being idiots' every time rather than explaining yourself. Especially in what I've read in the politics subforum.
McP3000
06-07-2009, 11:11 PM
what am i supposed to do
if i argue they just troll me with "lol christianity" or something else inane. If people would behave themselves and see how they're being hypocritical twats then id indulge in arguing.
Tulannical
06-07-2009, 11:30 PM
band is kind of hypocritical but w/e
McP3000
06-08-2009, 12:17 AM
why
black metal is a style of music not a style of lyrical content.
Bleekill
06-08-2009, 12:26 AM
I didn't say it was about lyrical content. The whole idea of black metal contradicts Christianities beliefs and what it stands for. Black Metal stands for chaos, hatred, darkness, mysticism, death, misanthropy and rebellion. Christian bands should not want to channel any of those ideas or feelings through their music if they are truly trying to "christ-like", as most Christians want to be. Wouldn't taking pleasure in anything dark or evil be sinful?
McP3000
06-08-2009, 12:31 AM
I didn't say it was about lyrical content. The whole idea of black metal contradicts Christianities beliefs and what it stands for. Black Metal stands for chaos, hatred, darkness, mysticism, death, misanthropy and rebellion. Christian bands should not want to channel any of those ideas or feelings through their music if they are truly trying to "christ-like", as most Christians want to be. Wouldn't taking pleasure in anything dark or evil be sinful?
hey guys
lets tell other people what to believe in and tell them how they should live those believes, and what not to listen to
Bleekill
06-08-2009, 12:37 AM
I was asking a ****ing question and proving a point, not telling you what to believe. I'm an agnostic, but I have quite a bit of knowledge about Christianity being raised in Christian schools. I'm just showing you why Christians do not belong in Black Metal bands. It would be like a bunch of politicians in an anarcho crust punk band.
Angmar
06-08-2009, 12:38 AM
Well they could always be in a crust band but not have to be anarcho!
Bleekill
06-08-2009, 12:46 AM
Yes but show me one crust band that has conservative political views.
easylee
06-08-2009, 12:46 AM
Hail Jesus, Holy Unblack Metal
Angmar
06-08-2009, 12:48 AM
Yes but show me one crust band that has conservative political views.
Not all politicians are conservatives! :smash:
McP3000
06-08-2009, 12:49 AM
Yes but show me one crust band that has conservative political views.
hey did you know that theres no conservatives with punk attributes and no christians that feel intense dark pain and loneliness?
true story
Bleekill
06-08-2009, 01:05 AM
Not all politicians are conservatives! :smash:
No **** I'm comparing conservative politicians to Christianity/Islam/Judiasm any large organized religion.
It's like this....
Black Metal, the epitome of darkness,evil, mysticism, rebellion,misanthropy and hate in musical form. Listen to first wave black metal, it was founded on this stuff. That doesn't mean it hasn't evolved but the music has always been about things that stand against these major religions.
Now take Hardcore, it was formed in rebellion against conservative politics, it sprung up all over during the Regan regime. It too has evolved to the point where it is unrecognizable in some cases. But lets just focus on the bands that stick to the true sound. You wouldn't find many conservatives in those bands.
And Christians should not want to focus on the suffering, darkness and pain, but on their redeemer Christ and take comfort in Him.
McP3000
06-08-2009, 01:22 AM
how about you start making blanket judgments about conservatives and christians if you belong to either of those groups.
and you dont.
so dont.
Bleekill
06-08-2009, 01:28 AM
Another "stop talking" reply. Whatever, I made my points and they stand.
McP3000
06-08-2009, 01:32 AM
your points are ridiculous because it assumes so many thing about the christian and conservative while it assumes nothing about the liberal/anarchist and the atheist.
your points are also ridiculous because people that listen to music or refuse to listen to music because of preconceived lyrical contents/themes is just retarded. Music is about emotion, and everyone can relate to emotion, regardless of what they believe.
im sure they're are many christians who have had black and bleaker and more depressingly sadistic days than anything you will ever experience.
To be honest, having someone nailed to a cross with bloody thorns on their head while still alive, and left to die, can be interpreted as "metal". And its probably more metal than youre leftover preteen anti-christian angst.
Bleekill
06-08-2009, 01:39 AM
From my experience in a Christian family and schooling I have said, Christians should want no part of Black Metal. They are not supposed to dwell on the darkness, pain, hatred, ect. they are supposed to focus on Christ. They are not supposed to rebel against God or authority, because God placed that authority over them. Therefore, they should not want to be part of black metal music.
im sure they're are many christians who have had black and bleaker and more depressingly sadistic days than anything you will ever experience.
Yeah...so I have no reason to listen to black metal? That makes a lot less sense than what I am saying.
Angmar
06-08-2009, 01:42 AM
If you enjoy a certain type of music why should you have to relate or agree with the lyrics?
I'm not a racist but that doesn't stop me from listening to Arghoslent.
Meatplow
06-08-2009, 01:47 AM
I didn't say it was about lyrical content. The whole idea of black metal contradicts Christianities beliefs and what it stands for. Black Metal stands for chaos, hatred, darkness, mysticism, death, misanthropy and rebellion. Christian bands should not want to channel any of those ideas or feelings through their music if they are truly trying to "christ-like", as most Christians want to be. Wouldn't taking pleasure in anything dark or evil be sinful?
Nobody except the most grim of the grim care for the initial ideology anymore. It has burnt out to death and has become a parody of itself, I guess this is why groups like Darkthrone are having fun on their later albums.
Bleekill
06-08-2009, 01:57 AM
I'm not saying you have to be a church burning murder to listen to black metal, I'm saying from a Christian point of view, it makes no sense to make/enjoy that kind of music.
Meatplow
06-08-2009, 02:46 AM
I'm not saying you have to be a church burning murder to listen to black metal, I'm saying from a Christian point of view, it makes no sense to make/enjoy that kind of music.
What is aesthetically pleasing to someone is a whole different story from what comprises their personal beliefs. Music is a universal expression, and angst of any kind can filtered through an "extreme" artform. If someone religious prefers abrasive, harsh sounds over singing in a church choir well, okay. Why is this wrong?
The confusion seems to be in that Black Metal is often not differentiated between the musical output that typically defines it and the image and ideology aspect. The latter seems so woven into the essence of it that to many who only have a surface level understanding of it and avid followers alike find the idea of religious bands adopting this subgenres characteristics as grossly offensive.
Reasoning purely on this the music might seem ****ing gay because its not tr00 or kvlt or some shi' but realistically I don't see any reason that if you were to completely remove any notion of ideology that music of a similar quality to any other black metal group could be composed if these musicians know what they are doing. Furthering this, I have strong doubts the majority of people who listen to black metal hold any real value in it's ideology anyway and besides, almost nobody understands what is being said until they read a lyric sheet.
So in short, I am not trying to defend the genre as such as i've never listened to it and it could tend to be populated with mediocre bands. However, even as a agnostic leaning heavily towards athiesm I do think a lot of people have a very narrow idea of what a Christian point of view can be. Our very own user Aaron is an example of somebody who is passionately religious but works with some rather disturbing walls of ambient noise, though this is a subgenre of industrial that has a long history of its own of being subversive in it's politics it is his expression and I would consider it a valid one.
Mr Flat
06-08-2009, 03:06 AM
Black metal not go well together on christianity, .
McP3000
06-08-2009, 08:30 AM
@meatplow: i didnt know aaron was xtian
Black metal not go well together on christianity, .
well duh, but that doesnt mean it cant
Angmar
06-08-2009, 12:36 PM
I'm not saying you have to be a church burning murder to listen to black metal, I'm saying from a Christian point of view, it makes no sense to make/enjoy that kind of music.
Well the point I'm trying to make is that you don't have to agree with the lyrical content of a band to listen to them, that's a really shallow way to go about listening to music.
jrowa001
06-08-2009, 12:42 PM
yeah im a growing Christian and i listen to plenty of bands that dont like Jesus or God
beans
06-08-2009, 12:46 PM
title of thread had me rolling
Bleekill
06-08-2009, 01:03 PM
Well the point I'm trying to make is that you don't have to agree with the lyrical content of a band to listen to them, that's a really shallow way to go about listening to music.
I'm not saying just lyrics, it's the whole package. Leave the lyrics out of it, it still is not music that would bring thoughts of happiness and joy or things a Christian should be focusing on.
RetiredAt21
06-08-2009, 01:47 PM
Some Christians are mad sorrowful, though.
Bleekill
06-08-2009, 01:55 PM
Then what is the point of being a Christian and having a relationship with Christ if you are always depressed anyways?
stevensonmat2
06-08-2009, 01:57 PM
Wow, what a joke. Its like signing the blues to express how happy you are. Completely missing the point.
RetiredAt21
06-08-2009, 01:58 PM
Then what is the point of being a Christian and having a relationship with Christ if you are always depressed anyways?
I dunno I was just being gay.
Stormrider
06-08-2009, 01:59 PM
your points are also ridiculous because people that listen to music or refuse to listen to music because of preconceived lyrical contents/themes is just retarded.
I don't see what's wrong with someone staying away from NSBM for example because it has racist views.
However, I do find it retarded if that is the sole reason for why they do listen to it.
Furthering this, I have strong doubts the majority of people who listen to black metal hold any real value in it's ideology anyway and besides, almost nobody understands what is being said until they read a lyric sheet.
You are missing the point. Black metal has its early roots in a strong dislike for religion. Whether or not a majority of people feel that way has nothing to do with anything because that is fact. If theres a certain way of doing something, and the majority of people decide to do it another way, it doesn't take away any merit on the way it was intented to be done.
Then what is the point of being a Christian and having a relationship with Christ if you are always depressed anyways?
Being a Christian doesn't suddenly remove you of every negative emotion man has ever known.
Bleekill
06-08-2009, 03:00 PM
Exactly but being a Christian does mean that you should not focus on those emotions by listening or creating that music. I could look up Bible verses that talk about focusing only on what is positive. Christians believe that the whole point of music is to bring glory to God. There are even those that go so far as to claim that any music that doesn't bring glory to God is basically a perversion.
RetiredAt21
06-08-2009, 03:09 PM
mmmm perversion
Bleekill
06-08-2009, 03:21 PM
I mean in each religion there are so many sects that believe different things but when the Bible states something, they take it seriously and it says not to dwell on negative things.
"But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. Colossians 3:8 "
There can be songs that evoke sorrow but they should also be turning the listener towards Christ who is their hope.
Stormrider
06-08-2009, 04:21 PM
Exactly but being a Christian does mean that you should not focus on those emotions by listening or creating that music. I could look up Bible verses that talk about focusing only on what is positive. Christians believe that the whole point of music is to bring glory to God. There are even those that go so far as to claim that any music that doesn't bring glory to God is basically a perversion.
I see completely where you're coming from but you also need to understand that most christians today aren't like how most christians were 400 years ago :p
Sure there's some, but those are't the ones listening to black metal haha
Meatplow
06-08-2009, 04:22 PM
You are missing the point. Black metal has its early roots in a strong dislike for religion.
I'm not missing the point, I've already addressed this.
Whether or not a majority of people feel that way has nothing to do with anything because that is fact. If theres a certain way of doing something, and the majority of people decide to do it another way, it doesn't take away any merit on the way it was intented to be done.
Measuring fact here is what gets me bleary unless you are referring entirely to that the opinion of the majority often does not rule. Which is true. Still, it's irrelevant and this wasn't a core point to what I was suggesting. This certain way of doing something. Is the ideology really the core of what makes black metal what it is? I'll touch on this.
Whilst the beliefs and imagery are the only thing which clearly differentiates the first wave of Black Metal from other speed and thrash metal acts at the time, certainly during the Norwegian second wave many of the groups took the ideology to a new level but a particular criteria was adopted musically which gave black metal it's key character.
So, generally it would seem that both ideology and sound go hand in hand to be the "true essence" for some. The beliefs born out of the socio-political conditions which fueled the Norwegian scene are undeniably a core part which completely authenticates it. However, with the glut of bands which came out of every wave since even from countries where people generally have it good I have to question if trying to imitate the views of the original scene makes their music just as valid. Or is the black metal "sound" really its own musical artform free of any ideological constraints?
I have to wonder would it be offensive if an agnostic individual were to play music in the style of black metal? This would not be as downright unacceptable as somebody religious adopting it, but technically it's still not kvlt or some **** right? What if a group of christians played black metal, and sung satanist lyrics for the lulz but nobody ever knew they were christian until years later? Even if they built some degree of popularity would they be later be dismissed as "not black metal"? Thinking about it, probably. But thinking further, it seems silly all the same.
There seems to some inconsistencies that stem from saying that the group of esoteric paganist and satanist types that compose "the inner sanctum" of the black metal elite completely dictate what is tr00 or not. Which is fine, but purely for the lulz. Black metal will still sound like black metal to me wherever it's lo-fi blast beats, tremolo picking and indiscernible screaming about satan or wherever it's lo-fi blast beats, tremolo picking and indiscernible screaming about god. To me, it is all completely silly and whilst some good bands continue to move on all the dreck the genre has produced has doing nothing but to help it to become a parody of itself devoid of any real meaning. This is despite the artists intentions.
Being a Christian doesn't suddenly remove you of every negative emotion man has ever known.
Yep.
@meatplow: i didnt know aaron was xtian
Catholic, I believe.
Bleekill
06-08-2009, 04:31 PM
I mean, I live in the bible belt of America so I see people who believe what I'm saying all the time. I remember growing up, so many parents would only let their kids listen to the christian radio station. I guess it's all the baptists down here, I don't know. I highly doubt what I'm saying is only relevant to old school Christian beliefs. I just find it impossible to bring Christian beliefs into black metal.
RetiredAt21
06-08-2009, 04:43 PM
This thread should be dead by now.
Bleekill
06-08-2009, 04:50 PM
I found this for the lulz.
http://www.av1611.org/rock.html
Meatplow
06-08-2009, 05:34 PM
I found this for the lulz.
http://www.av1611.org/rock.html
i'm not sure if this is the exact video because I can't watch youtube vids atm, but - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbKO_Wuz7M8
is it this guy? if not, oh well. the full video is out there somewhere :lol: - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj7TJZW2pJE
Gangrene
06-08-2009, 05:37 PM
lolthread
lolarguments
lol
imperialblackness
06-08-2009, 06:53 PM
Hey this is my most successful thread ever!!
Ceminon
06-09-2009, 08:41 AM
Friend, the facts speak loud and clear! Satan is alive and well!
To think for one second, this music is accident or trivial, is ridiculous! From the attack on Jesus Christ, to glorification of hell and Satan — there is a evil and guiding hand! There is no logical or rational explanation for such lyrics — besides the obvious influence of Satan!
And one clear message is heard — over and over —
SATAN WANTS YOU TO BURN IN HELL!
Jesus says in John 14:6, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, BUT BY ME."
Friend, there is only ONE WAY out of hell —
THE LORD JESUS CHRIST!
Friend, as sure as you live and breathe — if you die without Jesus Christ — that instant, YOU WILL BE IN HELL!
in flames. . . (Luke 16:24) in torment . . . (Luke 16:24 ) for ever. . . (Matt. 25:41)
Friend, I want to ask you the most important question in your life:
Is there a time and place in your life, when you trusted in Jesus Christ, and Him alone, as your personal Savior?
Maybe you don't listen to rock music. You may be the best person in your neighborhood. You may even be a faithful church member.
But, the Bible is very clear.
Jesus Christ says in Matthew 12:30, "He that is not with me is AGAINST ME . . ."
When you say no to Jesus — you say yes to Satan! Yes, Satan, I'll see you in hell!
And friend, that's a very, very serious thing to do!
Jesus Christ loved you so much that He died on an old, rugged cross nearly 2,000 years ago — He did that for YOU!
And now, friend — the next move is YOURS.
Jesus or Satan. Heaven or Hell.
THE CHOICE IS YOURS
You can be saved this minute.
That last sentence makes it sound like a commercial. :lol:
bringonthebreakdown
06-09-2009, 01:10 PM
that picture brings the epic lulz.
TimJim
06-10-2009, 02:16 PM
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=52377
:lol: its black metal with christian lyrics..........lol
with the exception of their lyrics theyre not too bad
The Feeding
06-10-2009, 02:19 PM
lyrics aren't that imporant anyways
McP3000
06-10-2009, 02:19 PM
well in extreme metal yeah
Ceminon
06-10-2009, 04:11 PM
lyrics aren't that imporant anyways
Depends on the genre and how you look at it.
If lyrics didn't matter at all, people'd write polka songs about taking a **** while skateboarding and wearing corpse paint at the same time. For example.
That, and music can be interpreted in several ways. Some say it's just a form of art, that is there for out entertainment. Others say it can also be a medium to get a message across. The music that accompanies the message can provide a more powerful impact.
Stormrider
06-10-2009, 04:48 PM
Some say it's just a form of art, that is there for out entertainment.
Hmmm, that's two different things. I get what you're saying, but many people who will say music is art will not say it's simply entertainment.
The Feeding
06-10-2009, 05:17 PM
honestly that was half sarcasm half truth. IMO yes lyrics are important to a certain extent, i listen to some bands for them and some i could care less about...depends on the band mainly
Jaundice
06-10-2009, 06:00 PM
Tbh, lyrics mean absolutely nothing outside of hip-hop and Weezer.
Aaron
06-10-2009, 08:28 PM
Black metal is associated with satanism, but it's not part of its fundamentals of the genre so I don't see why people have trouble with the idea that christians like black metal and play it. A lot of the key figures [Varg Vikernes, Gaahl] are not satanist but neopagan and odalist.
no way PA BLACKENED GORESLAM
More like Blackened Godslam.
@meatplow: i didnt know aaron was xtian
Yep.
McP3000
06-10-2009, 08:33 PM
Yep.
\m/
Aaron
06-10-2009, 08:35 PM
/w\
McP3000
06-10-2009, 08:36 PM
no homo
Aaron
06-10-2009, 08:38 PM
I'm confused but whatevs.
Mr. Ron
06-10-2009, 08:38 PM
Christians listening to my bombastic anthems of hatred!? READY THE GAS CHAMBERS
McP3000
06-10-2009, 08:39 PM
you say "no homo" when two men do something semi-gay to make it not awkwardly gay
Aaron
06-10-2009, 08:39 PM
Just because my name is hebrew, doesn't mean I'm a jew.
you say "no homo" when two men do something semi-gay to make it not awkwardly gay.
I see. Haven't heard of that here.
McP3000
06-10-2009, 08:39 PM
Christians listening to my bombastic anthems of hatred!? READY THE GAS CHAMBERS
wait second, we dont go in gas chambers
we go into the lion pits
wtf are you thinking
Aaron
06-10-2009, 08:41 PM
And flames, untouched.
Mr. Ron
06-10-2009, 08:41 PM
There will be lions in the gas chambers
hismajestythepope
06-10-2009, 08:42 PM
wait second, we dont go in gas chambers
we go into the lion pits
wtf are you thinking
seriously
McP3000
06-10-2009, 08:42 PM
there will be lions in the gas chambers
dont hurt the kitties
:-[
no christian fred is complete without the satanik might ov king diamond
By the symbol of the creator, I swear henceforth to be
A faithful servant of his most puissant arch-angel
The Prince Lucifer
Whom the creator designated as his regent
And Lord of this world. Amen
I deny Jesus Christ, the deceiver
And I abjure the Christian faith
Holding in contempt all of it's works
As a being now possessed of a human body
In this world I swear to give my full allegiance
To it's lawful master, to worship him
Our Lord, oh Satan, and no other
In the name of Satan, the ruler of Earth
Open wide the gates of Hell and come forth from the abyss
By these names: Satan, Leviathan, Belial,
Lucifer
I will kiss the goat
I swear to give my mind, my body and soul unreservedly
To the furtherance of our Lord Satan's designs
Do what thou wilt, shall be the whole of the law
As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be
World without end. Amen.
McP3000
06-10-2009, 10:44 PM
lol i hope he's not serious
Angmar
06-10-2009, 10:54 PM
oh he is
TimJim
06-11-2009, 09:38 PM
he always is
Ceminon
06-12-2009, 07:02 AM
Black metal is associated with satanism, but it's not part of its fundamentals of the genre so I don't see why people have trouble with the idea that christians like black metal and play it. A lot of the key figures [Varg Vikernes, Gaahl] are not satanist but neopagan and odalist.
More like Blackened Godslam.
Yep.
Still, pagans used to be persecuted and murdered by christians for their beliefs. While I know that that was a very long time ago, I think it can't simply be dismissed. Paganism and christianity don't go hand in hand.
Stormrider
06-12-2009, 08:55 AM
Either way, it's not about being a satanist so what he said was wrong to begin with.
RetiredAt21
06-12-2009, 09:07 AM
There will be lions in the gas chambers
hahahahaha that just seems like overkill.
Mr. Ron
06-12-2009, 10:47 AM
The lions will be covered in glue and rolled in nails and glass.
McP3000
06-12-2009, 11:02 AM
i told you
DONT HURT THE KITTIES
Mr. Ron
06-12-2009, 11:03 AM
Nah they coo'
Stevie VII
06-12-2009, 11:43 AM
listening to fire throne would be like drinking non alcoholic beer
RetiredAt21
06-12-2009, 11:48 AM
:lol:
Ceminon
06-12-2009, 12:13 PM
listening to fire throne would be like drinking non alcoholic beer
Good point. :lol:
EDIT: Now that I think about it... I don't really mind non alcoholic beer. In situations where intoxication is not a very good idea, people might still want to enjoy the refreshing flavour of beer (eg. when you need to be driving home in a car).
the2stranger
06-12-2009, 12:38 PM
If I need to drive I don't drink.
I despise non alcoholic beer.
Non alcoholi beer is like getting a bj, without an orgasm.
RetiredAt21
06-12-2009, 12:53 PM
I've never tasted non alcoholic beer. I don't see the point.
TimJim
06-12-2009, 01:28 PM
beer is discusting in the first place so wtf would you not want to get plastered as a reqard for suffering through that
bringonthebreakdown
06-12-2009, 01:29 PM
beer is discusting in the first place so wtf would you not want to get plastered as a reqard for suffering through that
not all beer tbh. just the stuff bros drink.
TimJim
06-12-2009, 01:30 PM
like corona
now irish creme is where its at :d
RetiredAt21
06-12-2009, 01:38 PM
Corona is the most overrated **** ever.
Sam Adams makes some damn fine beer.
bringonthebreakdown
06-12-2009, 01:40 PM
Miller = headache water tbh. **** gives you the worst hang overs.
RetiredAt21
06-12-2009, 01:44 PM
Miller, Coors, and Budweiser can all **** off imo. All of that **** is awful.
Bleekill
06-12-2009, 01:59 PM
I love Sam Adams. Guinness is my favorite but it's too expensive. Yeah Miller,Coors, Bud, PBR all suck but sometimes that's all I can get.
RetiredAt21
06-12-2009, 02:10 PM
PBR isn't so bad.
Bleekill
06-12-2009, 02:50 PM
PBR isn't so bad.
Yeah its real cheap and is way better than Bud,Coors,Miller ect.
The Feeding
06-12-2009, 03:02 PM
i tend to drink a lot of it, i don't mind Coors Light or MGD tho
RetiredAt21
06-12-2009, 03:11 PM
Yeah its real cheap and is way better than Bud,Coors,Miller ect.
Backed.
Bleekill
06-12-2009, 03:16 PM
Yeah, I'll drink any beer if its available. I pick Yeungling over it most of the time but for the price PBR is good.
RetiredAt21
06-12-2009, 03:21 PM
Heil, Yeungling rules. Lionshead is awesome for cheap ****.
The Feeding
06-12-2009, 03:22 PM
Icehouse?? soo nasty but does the job
RetiredAt21
06-12-2009, 03:22 PM
Never even heard of that.
The Feeding
06-12-2009, 03:24 PM
really? maybe it's a midwest thing, it's nasty 5 or 6 percent cheap beer
RetiredAt21
06-12-2009, 03:25 PM
I think Nasty Ice is the worst beer I've ever tasted.
Bleekill
06-12-2009, 03:25 PM
I have. It reminds me of Milwaukee's best. I'll try some lionshead sometime.
RetiredAt21
06-12-2009, 04:05 PM
I used to like Keystone Light but I can't drink that **** anymore.
TimJim
06-13-2009, 01:11 AM
i love how an angsty anti unblack metal thread has turned into the beer coneseurs thread
Bleekill
06-13-2009, 02:33 AM
Beer is metal as f*ck.
the2stranger
06-13-2009, 03:26 AM
Beer ist Krieg.
o/
Stevie VII
06-13-2009, 06:47 AM
beer is just about the only acceptable metal drink
apart from whisky straight.
none of this jagermeister shite or JD and coke
Meatplow
06-13-2009, 07:52 AM
beer is metal
beer metal
The Feeding
06-13-2009, 10:05 AM
i love how an angsty anti unblack metal thread has turned into the beer coneseurs thread
makes perfect sense
Ceminon
06-13-2009, 10:38 AM
beer is discusting in the first place so wtf would you not want to get plastered as a reqard for suffering through that
Lol, no beer is not disgusting. I think you've been drinking the wrong beer.
I'll drink just about any beer though. Except for the 10% alcohol beer. I'm not a big fan of that ****. Other than that, I've never come across a beer that I thought was too nasty to drink. People that whine about certain brands are gay.
RetiredAt21
06-13-2009, 12:23 PM
beer is just about the only acceptable metal drink
apart from whisky straight.
none of this jagermeister poope or JD and coke
What? Jäger rules, you're crazy.
The Feeding
06-14-2009, 10:35 PM
i enjoy jack & coke
when i go to the bar that's what i usually drink, gets me drunk faster than beer
RetiredAt21
06-14-2009, 10:37 PM
I tried Goldschläger for the first time the other day and I love it. **** is tasty.
The Feeding
06-14-2009, 10:38 PM
always been weary of drinking something with metal flakes in it
RetiredAt21
06-14-2009, 10:38 PM
It's totally safe.
Aaron
06-14-2009, 10:45 PM
Summary of this thread:
All american beers are terrible.
Most christian black metal is bad.
Aaron is okay with Varg, as long as he stays away from Aaron's church with a lighter.
someguest
06-14-2009, 11:10 PM
Besides, you can't start making black metal without first having listened to original black metal, to even know of the genre at all. And if you're a christian, you shouldn't have even been listening to that stuff in the first place.
lolwut
The Feeding
06-14-2009, 11:11 PM
Summary of this thread:
All american beers are terrible.
Most christian black metal is bad.
Aaron is okay with Varg, as long as he stays away from Aaron's church with a lighter.
word holla
imperialblackness
06-15-2009, 08:12 PM
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RetiredAt21
06-15-2009, 09:16 PM
Derp.
Meatplow
06-15-2009, 09:34 PM
That is very garish.
Mastering the forces of teleportation
gaining the secrets to travel through time
approaching the vortex, chronometer reading 0 B.C.
What was the past will soon be changed
my first priority to destroy the manger
crushing the myth of paradox
Merging with the past
shock waves rip the continuum
How long can I last, travelling at millenium?
Following the North Star shining abright
to the place of the holy birth site
craving my need to kill the one
born of the name "The Nazarene Son"
Destroy The Manger
Destroy The Manger
Destroy The Manger
Destroy The Manger
DIE - BY - THE - SIGN - OF - THE - KEY
DIE - BY - THE - SIGN - OF - THE - KEY
Now that I have you into my sights, Nazarene child
pulling the trigger with no reconcile
blasting away Father, Mother, and Child
laughing hysterically all of the while
For centuries I have awaited this confrontation
in time I will bring them all down
Your savior has now fallen
my reign of evil has only just begun
forgot this one sorry gang
The Feeding
06-15-2009, 11:47 PM
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