Star Wars: The Old Republic

[Jacaranda]

i did a quick search and no thread. wtf.
Cinematic Trailer was released a few days (maybe more idk) back
http://swtor.com/media/trailers/deceived-cinematic-trailer
****ing tight.

Confirmed classes: Bounty Hunter/Trooper, Smuggler, Sith/Jedi
Members of the two main factions – the Galactic Republic and Sith Empire – will have different moralities; the project's key focus is to differentiate between the player's faction and morality. Each faction will contain different classes, each with a distinct backstory and a branching storyline affected by players' moral choices.Classes will also be exclusive to one faction or the other. Three classes have been confirmed: the Bounty Hunter for the Sith Empire, and the Trooper and Smuggler for the Galactic Republic. Although each class will have a distinct storyline, they will be integrated with the game's overall arc.

Players' choices will permanently open or close storylines and affect players' non-player character (NPC) companions. The game's developers believe that the game will provide more context for characters' missions and quests than other MMORPGs offer. Players will be able to choose from a variety of NPCs, although spending time with a single companion will help more in developing story and content than dividing time among several. It is possible for players to "blow it big time" if they fail to meet NPCs' expectation. Players will also have access to dozens of planets, including Korriban, Ord Mantell, Nal Hutta, and Tython.

bioware dont fail me now
anywho anyone excited for thsi game?
i've been hearing massive amounts of rumors about it some good (uh, lightsabers) some bad (charging based on time played) and some eh (graphics still not that great, apparently combat is supposed to be really cool looking which could case massive lag/fun bugs/exploits to deal with)

[McP3000]

this will probably be the only mmorpg ill ever play

im one of the biggest KOTOR fanboys outside of star wars conventions, so i hope this doesnt let me down

[FakePlasticTrees]

If its on the xbox, then I'll get it. If not, oh well.

[crunkaholic]

If it was an mmorpg, it would be severely impaired on the 360. I really wish this franchise could have continued in the path of Mass Effect and stayed a single player rpg. Mass Effect was good, but did not have enough lightsabers.

I freakin hate MMO's and the time they require.

[Mister_Che]

They're claiming they're doing fully voiced NPCs and PCs. Sounds ambitious.

[Mr. Ron]

The trailer is absolutely orgasmic.

[McP3000]

They're claiming they're doing fully voiced NPCs and PCs. Sounds ambitious.
english please
The trailer is absolutely orgasmic.
link me

[Mr. Ron]

watch in HD obv

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BjJaAA5A7w




Definitely going with sith and a bounty hunter

[FakePlasticTrees]

Yeah, my pc wont run it.

[Mister_Che]

english please

The developers working for Bioware have spoken publicly concerning the use of voice actors for each and every non-player and player character that will populate the game. It seems like a rather ambitious task.

:smash:

[DBoons Ghost]

I predict this game will suck. I think it will be a very stringent multiplayer roleplaying game with little to no interaction required to play the game through.

No pvp, no real reason to play. I understand there will be limited pvp by way of BGs or duels, but without large scale war, what's the point?

You can play KOTOR or KOTOR II and have it be the same experience as this, just without the glorified pretty looking chatroom.

My idea of a Star Wars game is a reskinned Planetside. All the vehicles. All the weapons. All the skills. None of the alpha jedi class stupidity. Empire vs Rebels.

Bioware are fantastic, but this game will not keep anyone interested for very long.

[Tillius]

I actually heard something about this years ago. I was pulled aside in the mall to take a survey with my opinion on it. Haven't heard anything about it since. Fixing to check out the trailer. I'm not a huge Star Wars person, but The Force Unleashed was awesome and this one excites me as well.


EDIT: Trailer is ****ing sick.

[DBoons Ghost]

The trailer is cinematic, and is no indication of actual game play.

With that said, yea it's awesome.

[ThePatient]

That does look really great, but I don't know how excited I really am about it, even being the huge Star Wars/KOTOR fan that I am.

A. I've never been into pure computer gaming, so I never have a computer that can run top-flight games.
B. I don't have the time to invest in MMORPGs to be successful enough to enjoy the game.
C. I generally like single-player games more, because I can't stand playing online with idiots.

Another regular KOTOR would make me much happier.

[Turkish]

I wanted to make a thread on this awhile ago, but all in all the game is looking sweet so far. The player models look awesome, still somewhat realistic, but styalized at the same time. I cannot wait, but will have to for this game to release. Huge star wars fan, huge kotor fan and Bioware looks to be doing a tip top job so far.

[crunkaholic]

I wanted to make a thread on this awhile ago, but all in all the game is looking sweet so far. The player models look awesome, still somewhat realistic, but styalized at the same time. I cannot wait, but will have to for this game to release. Huge star wars fan, huge kotor fan and Bioware looks to be doing a tip top job so far.

Prerendered is not entirely indicative of what it will look like unless you saw game play somewhere I did not.

I want a real KOTOR III. One without story lines cut at the last minute, and all of the polish and shine of a next gen system.

[Turkish]

They've had gameplay videos up at swtor.com for awhile now :confused:

[crunkaholic]

thanks. I'm still angry it's an MMORPG. That is still a dirty word for me.

[DBoons Ghost]

I'm just bitter towards Lucasarts for SWG. I dunno that I will ever get over that. I know it's sad.

[ThePatient]

I'm guessing that game totally flopped? I never played it and didn't really even know about it for a long time.

[team_racket]

SWG was bugged to hell, it totally bombed. It could have been fantastic, but today's technology allows us to do so much more.

[DBoons Ghost]

SWG was the greatest sandbox MMO ever. Yes it was buggy and had a ton of issues, but the game as it was released would have been awesome if they had fixed the issues that plagued it instead of making it worse and worse with every patch and fix.

I played it for the first year since release. Sony ruined what could have been the greatest MMO ever.

Bioware is not going to make the same mistake, but TOR is not a sandbox MMO. It's a traditional MMORPG. I mean, if there is pvp in the game similar to what transpired in that cinematic trailer, I'm sold.

[Mr. Ron]

I'm going to remain a bit optimistic. Until I see game play I won't pass judgment just yet.

[Shady Ultima]

SWG should have been amazing, I thought the idea was brilliant.

I really don't know about Kotor being an MMO. I mean, I loved the first one, and never played the second, but since MMO's storylines are usually non-existant, it probably won't do much for me.

I really think the Rebels/Empire would be awesome, a lot like WoW in the terms of gameplay, but instead of choosing your class, you'd start as a soldier, and as you level up and choose what skills to increase, you could choose Bounty Hunter or Sith or Rebel Leader or Jedi, or one of a ton of other classses. They'd just have to de-power the Jedi/Sith because everyone would end up playing one class. And the races available would be staggering.

[Jacaranda]

now i'm reading they will charge people not by time played but if someone wants the best gear they have to buy it. hoping its just rumors

no pvp wat.

i wish bioware would ditch mass effect and just make more kotors. mass effect was the exact same as kotor except without the star wars plot line. plus i thought the mass effect galaxy was lame.

i think no matter what tons of people will make siths/jedis just for the lightsaber.

[Mr. Ron]

now i'm reading they will charge people not by time played but if someone wants the best gear they have to buy it. hoping its just rumors

no pvp wat.

i wish bioware would ditch mass effect and just make more kotors. mass effect was the exact same as kotor except without the star wars plot line. plus i thought the mass effect galaxy was lame.

i think no matter what tons of people will make siths/jedis just for the lightsaber.
I really hope they're not that dumb.

[DBoons Ghost]

Honestly I wouldn't mind if they let us casual types just buy the uber gear. I don't have time to play MMOs as it is, so that would be perfect for players like me who just want to jump in for a few hours and kill people.

But what's the point of buying nice gear if there is no pvp?

[Jacaranda]

if you had to buy gear then it would be a rich suburban nerds wet dream

i highly doubt they would do that and if they did it would just destroy any desire i had to play the game.

[DBoons Ghost]

Why a rich suburban nerd and not me? I'm not a rich suburban nerd. I'm a guy who works like a dog and has little time for MMOs but I still love them.

The days of time sinking people into destroying their lives to play MMOs have to end.

I understand the root of your argument against it though. It undermines all the hard work you would normally put into the game to earn such rewards the right way.

[Mr. Ron]

I just hope that the quests or mission or w/e aren't like WoW ones. "Go here and kill 10 guys" or "fly here and gather 15 herbs". zzZZzzZZZzzzZZZ......

[DBoons Ghost]

That's pretty much the MMO standard, not just WoW.

I think they have a different approach from all that I've read, but every game has claimed that and in the end, it's all the same crap.

[Jacaranda]

and it alienates a large number of college students who play mmos because its a cheaper form of entertainment then say buying video games
aka me

but really the last thing i want to do is get beaten by a bunch of 13 yr olds who just bought everything to make themselves really good.

they said they are adding a 4th dimension to mmos and that each class has certain quest lines they do in order to shape their character

[DBoons Ghost]

That begins a whole other debate Jacaranda.. I am sure the game will require some skill and coordination, and not just turn awesome pvp gear into the "I win button". No game would be dumb enough to do that. It defeats the whole purpose.

Star Wars games tend to attract a more mature level of nerd. I thought it was only WoW that had 13 year old weenies playing it.

Either way, with no real pvp game built into TOR at release, it's a fairly moot argument.

[Cocaine]

This will be my first MMO. I cannot say no to a knew KOTOR

[Mr. Ron]

As long as they have a large selection of equipment/items/weapons I'll be happy. Especially since I plan on playing a bounty hunter. There will be jedis all over the place.

[Jawaharal]

looks sick, but will never play it because I will devote my life to diablo 3 and starcraft 2 once they come out

watching that trailer just made really want to go see a star wars movie. goddamn they need to make a new movie, and actually make it good

[Iskandar]

I'm not a rich suburban nerd.That's right, you're a rich urban nerd.:)
As long as they have a large selection of equipment/items/weapons I'll be happy. Especially since I plan on playing a bounty hunter. There will be jedis all over the place.Ahem, it's Jedi.

And I would totally be one. I want a green lightsaber.

[Mr. Ron]

That's right, you're a rich urban nerd.:)
Ahem, it's Jedi.

And I would totally be one. I want a green lightsaber.
Sith > jedi

[Iskandar]

Oh is that why the Jedi always beat them in the end?

[Pop music sucks]

Hmm, makes me actually want to try out an MMO. I have avoided MMORPG's at many a request to join in. However that cinematic teaser looks awesome.

[Cocaine]

I could have sworn I read you couldn't be a Jedi, but in hindsight, that sounds like a terrible decision so I might be imagining this.

[Tillius]

The Jedi got pwned in the trailer and that's all that matters.

I don't know if I'll get this or not. I'm not much of PC gamer so I don't really have a computer that could run it top notch. I'm one of the few losers who would love a console version.

[Mr. Ron]

Oh is that why the Jedi always beat them in the end?
The star wars books say otherwise! :p


Darth Maul (one of my favorite Sith) didn't die, actually. His lower body was reconstructed.





New Video:

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-star-wars/50795

[FakePlasticTrees]

Why can't have a KOTOR III?

[Iskandar]

The star wars books say otherwise! :p


Darth Maul (one of my favorite Sith) didn't die, actually. His lower body was reconstructed.Bullshit. He died. He got chopped in half and fell into a pit. He's dead dammit.

Movies outrank books in canon.

[Pop music sucks]

Ever read the Han Solo trilogy? Excellent series of books. The space combat in Hutt Gambit was awesome and highly imaginative.

[Iskandar]

Nah I haven't read anything but Timothy Zahn's trilogy which was okay.

[Pop music sucks]

The characterization of Han Solo in those books actually felt like movie-Han Solo. You get to see how he picked up the skills of a smuggler, how he met Chewie, his tenure in the Imperial Navy, relationship with Jabba, and how he had first encountered Boba Fett.

[Iskandar]

Eh, I sort of inferred that stuff from the movies.

[Pop music sucks]

It's a fun and fast read! It doesn't come off as fanboyism and what fanboyism brings, which would be unecessary and illogical things for the sake of "Wouldn't it be awesome if [Luke/Vader/Solo/everyoneelse] did this".

[Iskandar]

I admit to being a fanboy of stuff. If I like it, why not.

Anyway I'm not really into the EU. I'm sort of a movie purist. It's just not the same quality generally. But I'm eager for the upcoming live-action TV series.

[Mr. Ron]

Bullshit. He died. He got chopped in half and fell into a pit. He's dead dammit.

Movies outrank books in canon.
Nah, he's alive! The books overrule!


May a Sith crawl into your bed tonight.

[Iskandar]

Nah, he's alive! The books overrule!Lol no they don't. Obi-wan chopped him into kibble. You saw it.
May a Sith crawl into your bed tonight.I'll duel him, that bitch. I have mastered the second form of lightsaber combat to the highest degree.

[Pop music sucks]

I mean the stuff that's written so outlandish that it would be impossible to occur, yet still happens anyways, like Ron's bit about Darth Maul 2.0:p

At least check it out at yon kommunist liebrerie. It's highly regarded in quality because of how well she wrote the series. If you're looking at "not the same quality", Episode I and II had good concepts but were horribly structured. III was the only saving grace of the prequel trilogy.

http://boards.theforce.net/literature/b10003/29898013/p2
http://www.amazon.com/Paradise-Snare-Star-Wars-Trilogy/dp/0553574159

And if you do decide to read through the series, don't scrutinize of "beneath movie quality" but don't expect too much from the reviews.

[McP3000]

id totally be a blue lightsaber wielding jedi

[Pop music sucks]

I would love to be a Bounty Hunter:evil:

[Iskandar]

It's highly regarded in quality because of how well she wrote the series. If you're looking at "not the same quality", Episode I and II had good concepts but were horribly structured. III was the only saving grace of the prequel trilogy.I agree with that.

I heard they were among the better books too. But I don't have the time. I'm reading lots of stuff right now.
id totally be a blue lightsaber wielding jediI prefer green. Yoda/Luke/Qui-gon. All my favourite Jedi had green.

[Mr. Ron]

At least Sith characters are actually interesting. Jedi are a dim a dozen personalities.


http://i42.tinypic.com/avjtlh.jpg



Awesome thing about his appearance is that his race's skin doesn't really look like that, he tattooed all of the color in himself.

[Tillius]

I'm with whoever said Sith and Bounty Hunter. **** being a Jedi.

[McP3000]

you guys are mean :[[[

i bet in kotor you were bullies

[Iskandar]

At least Sith characters are actually interesting. Jedi are a dim a dozen personalities.Other way around. The Sith try to eliminate their individuality (hence the wearing all black and wielding red lightsabers). The Jedi are all different.

Although the Sith shown in the movies were interestingly structured characters (especially Darth Vader since he was a former Jedi). Except Darth Maul.

[Pop music sucks]

I'm reading lots of stuff right now.You don't need to read those inscriptions. Those are not the books you are looking for.

[Mr. Ron]

Other way around. The Sith try to eliminate their individuality (hence the wearing all black and wielding red lightsabers). The Jedi are all different.

Although the Sith shown in the movies were interestingly structured characters (especially Darth Vader since he was a former Jedi). Except Darth Maul.
All I know is that Maul took on a Jedi master and a very good Padawan, and killed a Jedi master without even being fully trained. He almost killed Obi-wan as well, but he got a bit careless. Seeing this, he is actually MORE skilled than the both of them.

[FakePlasticTrees]

I loved making the diseased guy kill himself. Good times.

[Iskandar]

All I know is that Maul took on a Jedi master and a very good Padawan, and killed a Jedi master without even being fully trained. He almost killed Obi-wan as well, but he got a bit careless. Seeing this, he is actually MORE skilled than the both of them.I thought he was fully trained. He was Sidious' apprentice in the sense that he was trained by him but he was a Sith Lord too.

Anyway he killed Qui-Gon with a cheap shot, as the Sith do, and Obi-Wan killed him with a badass stunt. Who's more skilled now.

[Mr. Ron]

I thought he was fully trained. He was Sidious' apprentice in the sense that he was trained by him but he was a Sith Lord too.

Anyway he killed Qui-Gon with a cheap shot, as the Sith do, and Obi-Wan killed him with a badass stunt. Who's more skilled now.
nah if you read into his background he was still undergoing training when he fought both of them.

I wouldn't call that a cheap shot at all. There's no such things as cheap shots

[Iskandar]

nah if you read into his background he was still undergoing training when he fought both of them.He was a flat character, how much background can he have.

At least Obi-Wan was as well trained as him and he won.
I wouldn't that a cheap shot at all. There's no such things as cheap shotsThere are to the Jedi. They try to fight honourably and take their opponents alive when possible. Darth Maul slammed Qui-Gon in the face and ran him through. He was fighting to kill both of them.

[Pop music sucks]

Oh gee I think I found out who would be the first PvPer's on this board once the game goes online*

*that is if both parties involved had purchased the game and planned their bout accordingly :P

[Mr. Ron]

He was a flat character, how much background can he have.

At least Obi-Wan was as well trained as him and he won.
There are to the Jedi. They try to fight honourably and take their opponents alive when possible. Darth Maul slammed Qui-Gon in the face and ran him through. He was fighting to kill both of them.
well if you read the books that are mostly dedicated to him you'd know how much of a badass he is!!!! :p


He was fighting against a Jedi Master. You win any way you can.

[Iskandar]

well if you read the books that are mostly dedicated to him you'd know how much of a badass he is!!!! :p


He was fighting against a Jedi Master. You win any way you can.Cause he couldn't win otherwise. He didn't win when they fought on Tatooine.

[Shady Ultima]

He didn't lose though. He was winning, and Qui-gon ran

The star wars books say otherwise! :p


Darth Maul (one of my favorite Sith) didn't die, actually. His lower body was reconstructed.


I thought he was cloned, the original died, but the clone was defeated by Vader as a test by Palpatine.

[Mr. Ron]

Cause he couldn't win otherwise. He didn't win when they fought on Tatooine.
I don't see how he won with a "cheap shot"? He hit him in the face, its a fight....

[Pop music sucks]

It seems that the Jedi conduct pertaining to dueling is akin to 17th century court sword duels. The only weapon used is the sword itself. Although in this case force powers are used when necessary and not excessively.

[iarescientists]

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1286/670996530_20a3c41d92.jpg

who's cool now ron

[Mr. Ron]

oh god damn it :(

[Turkish]

rofl

[DBoons Ghost]

So much more info about the game hasn't even been revealed. Only a few playable classes' information have been released. As it stands I lean towards Smuggler.

[Mister_Che]

Awesome thing about his appearance is that his race's skin doesn't really look like that, he tattooed all of the color in himself.

The lines and horns are formed on the skin of people of that race (Iridonian Zabrak), but the color doesn't.

[Iskandar]

I don't see how he won with a "cheap shot"? He hit him in the face, its a fight....A lightsaber duel. Remember, "an elegant weapon for a more civilized age" ...
He didn't lose though. He was winning, and Qui-gon ranDon't know how you can infer so much from a 30-second fight.

I don't get why you guys like Darth Maul. He was a boring character with almost no dialogue who had a cool fight scene.

[Gattsu347]

is this game an mmo? like star wars galaxies?? I used play SWG religiously back when i came out for a year or so, i had a pretty decent character, but hey changed the entire layout of the game and i stopped playing. I remember tipping a "novice marksman" (a very very beginner) like 80 million credits when he started with like 30 :lol:

[Dimmu Burger]

I thought he was cloned, the original died, but the clone was defeated by Vader as a test by Palpatine.

BS! The books aren't canon!!

=)

[Turkish]

So I don't know if anyone has seen the developer walkthrough of this game, but holy jesus hell it looks incredible.

[Pop music sucks]

No but I will start streaming it now.

http://pc.ign.com/dor/objects/816935/bioware-mmo-project/videos/gcom09_oldrepublic_spc1_082109.html

[FakePlasticTrees]

Cool.


No way that'll run on my pc.

[Pop music sucks]

Yeah I'd have to upgrade mine.

I'm guessing the game won't be fully released until Q4 next year, so I'll have plenty of time to upgrade the PC.

[GreyHam]

Probs the one MMO that will tempt a monthly subscription outta me

[Tillius]

Wow, this looks amazing. I've never played a MMORPG or really any PC game so don't really know much about updating my computer to run it but I'm going to have to look into it. This looks too good to pass up.

[FakePlasticTrees]

Well, I'd pretty much have to purchase a complete desktop pc because all I have is a notebook. I highly doubt that my notebook will run a game like that.

[DBoons Ghost]

Well, since they released those gameplay videos I think I was right about them bringing the RPG back to the MMO and taking a little bit of the MMO out of it. Who knows though. Still so much info they are keeping guarded about the gameplay mechanics.

Now I would like to say I don't think the game will suck. Quite the contrary. Combat looks fun.