Jungle/Drum&Bass

[Senseless Apprentice]

Hey guys.
So I want to explore this genre of music this summer. My main reason to do this is to follow in Jojo Mayers footsteps. I am going into this pretty blindly, and would appreciate any information from anyone.

I have yet to acquire any music with breakbeat drumming in it. If anyone could recommend me some groups or albums, that would be great.

Any youtube video's of these groups? Any good youtube videos of leading Jungle/Drum&Bass drumset players out there?

And lastly, I am even pretty blind on what these genres really are. If anyone is passionate about these genres and knows their sh*t, feel free to share your knowledge.

[Aaron]

Pendulum
Nerve
Prodigy
Aphex Twin, at times

[StreetlightRock]

http://www.myspace.com/evolintent
http://www.myspace.com/plumpdjs
http://www.myspace.com/highcontrastuk
http://www.myspace.com/londonelektricity
http://www.myspace.com/djnutone
http://www.myspace.com/stantonwarriors
http://www.myspace.com/soundpressurelevels
Adam Freeland does some cool stuff to but his recent stuff isn't that much DnB and sounds more like Soulwax.

Sample and enjoy, a whole bunch of different styles here.

[We_Love_Lime]

Out of all the genres of music, you pick the most annoying to start following.

You'll be hard pressed to find a prominent Drum N Bass drummer. Nerve is actually a terrible band IMO, but I was looking on youtube and found this guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hInOciRUV-4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pckCTEymSlQ&feature=PlayList&p=64051E9B082FFB30&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=12

This Andres Meindhart seems ridiculous.
Also they do use a lot of unorthodox techniques which are kind of cool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTwWRwWjV3s&feature=channel

But if you want to sound like JoJo Mayer, I'd suggest transcribing JoJo Mayer stuff, considering most of this stuff is just mostly endurance.

There used to be this really famous one, anybody remember, His name was like KJ or KT or something?

Johnny Rabb also has a book out if you're interested.

[Mirror.Circuit]

KJ Sawka-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b98BJ36K1wo

also, listen to Venetian Snares and Spor.

[We_Love_Lime]

I want his shirt.

[Mirror.Circuit]

You would.

[tapioca]

Aphex Twin, at times

I'd like to hear/see somebody play "Come To Daddy" or at least see a transcription of it. Most of his stuff is endless improvising, like drum'n'bass jazz, imo.

[We_Love_Lime]

Come to Daddy reminds me of "Hard Normal Daddy" which reminds me of...

ULTRAVISITOR by Squarepusher.

I can stand listening to Squarepusher honestly. Good ****.
Maybe not as Jungly as you'd want.
But meh...

[Mirror.Circuit]

I'd like to hear/see somebody play "Come To Daddy" or at least see a transcription of it. Most of his stuff is endless improvising, like drum'n'bass jazz, imo.

Well, Come To Daddy is random.
It's random drum patterns set inside a specific time signature.
Chris Pennie of DEP/Coheed has some videos of him playing it.

[Chippy569]

Out of all the genres of music, you pick the most annoying to start following.

remember when people cared about your musical taste? i don't either. :smash:

[We_Love_Lime]

Ahh.
:P
You got me.

[Aaron]

I'd like to hear/see somebody play "Come To Daddy" or at least see a transcription of it. Most of his stuff is endless improvising, like drum'n'bass jazz, imo.
Something I've been working on for a while actually.

[some jive turkey]

spend a lot of time with a metronome, start slow and work up some interesting fills to those faster tempos,...otherwise you'll just sound like everyone else trying to do this stuff. Your time should be really really solid, or else you'd better leave it to a drum machine.
YOu might enjoy screwing with a sequencer like the Korg EMX1 and muting all or some of the drum parts. There are a few hundred patterns to play along with.

like with learning any style, listening is important. listen to some beats made by DJs as well as drummers like Adam Dietsch on Scofield's Uberjam. Track 3,..."jungle fiction" , i think it's called, is kickass.

Learn some of the electronic patterns on the kit. You'll discover that the same beat can become completely different at different tempos. As in all kinds of dance based music, tempo is everything. I discovered that a lot of drum and bass has kind of a brazilian clave feel hidden underneath it.


EDIT:
yeah, it's called jungle fiction.
I can't find a GOOD clip of it on youtube but here is A clip of the song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mP-YF6NO2I

EDIT AGAIN:
Now this just made me laugh. Sorry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56-vIztGyis&feature=related

[ludvista29]

KJ Sawka. He's the man.
If you wanna start making your own music, buy Ableton Live and a Midi Keyboard. I'm trying to do some.

[Vannaroth]

Groove Armada
Propellerheads
Prodigy
Chemical Brothers
Fatboy Slim

Sick tunes blud

[Chippy569]

KJ Sawka. He's the man.
If you wanna start making your own music, buy Ableton Live
or Reason 4.0

[We_Love_Lime]

Or use the Demo first.
DAWs are entirely personal preference really

[ludvista29]

or Reason 4.0
I have reason, and ableton. I prefer ableton over it. Reason isnt even really a DAW, you can't record audio in it. Also it does not support VST plugins. Honestly Ableton is perfect for a live DnB performer. You could change your set every show. With the built in effects, such as the Beat Repeater, you can change a drum track or any track instantly. I love it.

[Chippy569]

while that's very true, i was thinking about the OP and playing along to a track he writes in whatever program. I found reason to be a lot easier to figure out how to write a little program and then loop it/etc. than ableton (though both are pretty easy.) reason also comes with an impressive sound bank, and there are a million other free ones out there as well.

[ludvista29]

while that's very true, i was thinking about the OP and playing along to a track he writes in whatever program. I found reason to be a lot easier to figure out how to write a little program and then loop it/etc. than ableton (though both are pretty easy.) reason also comes with an impressive sound bank, and there are a million other free ones out there as well.
I see exactly where you are comming from. For a little thing at home, I would probably use reason. But if I was gonna release a CD or whatever, I would use Ableton.

[AdamP]

Johnny Rabb is a jungle/drum n bass king. check out his ****. pick up his book too if you can find it.