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McP3000
04-12-2009, 09:47 PM
Me and one of my good smoking chums were having a quite serious debate on the terms "Pothead" and "Stoner", and we couldn't come to a consensus on a good meaning for either, or what constitutes one as a "Pothead" or "Stoner".

So MX, i must as you this: Which of the two terms has a more negative connotation, which one references a person that smokes more than the other (i.e. Stoners= #days/week and Potheads=#days/week), and lastly would you consider yourself one of the two categories and/or did you ever go through a period in your life where you were ever in one of the two categories?

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For me, I believe Pothead to have a more negative connotation, and it is someone that smokes more than once a day. A Stoner has less negative connotation and is someone that does it often (2-3 times a week), but not excessively.

I would consider myself a stoner.

Route_1
04-12-2009, 09:48 PM
pothead is someone who smokes way too much


stoner is someone who also smokes too much but wears annoying hippie memorabilia.


stoner is worse.

thedeadwalk!
04-12-2009, 09:51 PM
Interchangeable to me. Both denote one who is more than a recreational user and are somewhat "at a loss" without it.

I've never smoked, but for no particular qualms against it.

Route_1
04-12-2009, 09:52 PM
just how many grateful dead and phish stickers can you fit on your car????


the world may never know

Specialsauce
04-12-2009, 09:53 PM
pothead is someone who smokes way too much


stoner is someone who also smokes too much but wears annoying hippie memorabilia.


stoner is worse.

This.

This issue is not about politics, news, OR world events. For shame.

Specialsauce
04-12-2009, 09:54 PM
One time I saw a bumper sticker that said:
Jerry's dead and Phish sucks. Cut your hair and get a job.

McP3000
04-12-2009, 09:55 PM
but its a very pressing topic that must be resolved

edit: so apparently to everyone else in the thread i fit in neither category. hmmm

Route_1
04-12-2009, 09:56 PM
Harrison are you high right now?

PshSam
04-12-2009, 09:56 PM
Pothead i consider someone who smokes daily

Stoner someone who smokes 2-4 times a week.

Both smoke plenty, but potheads get their smoke on no matter what.

nungman
04-12-2009, 09:58 PM
both are usually worthless and boring

Specialsauce
04-12-2009, 10:33 PM
both are usually worthless and boring
This as well.

Jude
04-13-2009, 12:34 AM
They mean pretty much the same thing to me although I've referred to friends as potheads in the past who I wouldn't necessarily refer to as stoners, but I'm not sure what they means, and those people probably don't really fit the definition anyway.

I've blazed a couple times. I don't intend to ever do it on a regular basis but it's alright now and then and I have nothing against it anymore than alcohol...both should be used in moderation.

Specialsauce
04-13-2009, 12:50 AM
Personally, I prefer the effects of marijuana to alcohol, but most of the time, I like the way my brain works without psychoactives. There are good times to smoke weed, and I like to drink sometimes, though I think it's much worse than blazing in every way.

McP3000
04-13-2009, 02:26 AM
Harrison are you high right now?
right now but not when i posted the thread

Interstate
04-13-2009, 06:55 AM
Both terms are equally as stupid.

DBoons Ghost
04-13-2009, 07:02 AM
This thread belongs in the GD.

I've never been called either and I been smoking the goods for 20 years now. I am not a stoner because jam bands all suck and I am a productive person, but I would welcome the pothead label because I do smoke every night.

I guess that makes me a boring worthless person even though it's likely I am worth more than whole generations of people who claimed ignorance a few posts up.

Way to be dumber than your average stoner eh?

mph4ever
04-13-2009, 07:16 AM
i don't get the frequency thing, i mean how to differentiate between an everyday habit or an every couple of days habit. i've smoked for more than 20 years and would think of it like this - a stoner is someone who smokes to get totally stoned, doesn't matter about the frequency, its just they enjoy being stoned as a rabbit when smoking. potheads are people who smoke pot but to enjoy the feeling of being stoned and enjoy others around them as well.

if i wasn't smoking and i went for a good few beers with someone that was a pothead then we'd survive. if i was out drinking and not smoking with a stoner who is getting stoned as a rabbit then i would be bored fairly quickly with them thinking too much into what the conversation might be about and saying "good **** man", "sure you won't have some man", in a squeaky voice made without letting the air from their lungs and squinting and then trying to make conversation beacuse they are all paranoid that you are not stoned like them and then they work too hard at it and i lose interest because i know they have the attention span of a gnat so any topic will go off topic quickly.

as a matter of fact, the only way to tolerate a stoner is to be a stoner too, which is ok from time to time

Iskandar
04-13-2009, 11:05 AM
A pothead is someone who smokes frequently (like every day) while a stoner is someone who smokes frequently and is stupid because of it.

The kids from Dazed and Confused were potheads. Sean Penn in Fast Times at Ridgemont High was a stoner.

ridethelib
04-13-2009, 11:42 AM
A pothead frequently adds herbs to his daily regimen, but can function without it.

A stoner is someone who is never seen not-stoned, and cannot function without it.

Also, the people who go around blabbing about how pot "opens your eyes to the world around you" are just ****ing retarded.

beso negro
04-13-2009, 03:19 PM
I've never been called either and I been smoking the goods for 20 years now. I am not a stoner because jam bands all suck and I am a productive person, but I would welcome the pothead label because I do smoke every night.

I guess that makes me a boring worthless person even though it's likely I am worth more than whole generations of people who claimed ignorance a few posts up.

Way to be dumber than your average stoner eh?

how are you able to keep a 6 figure job and partake that lifestyle

Det_Nosnip
04-13-2009, 03:25 PM
Pothead is worse, unless used in the context I created while in college in which I put a stock-pot on my head and ran around calling myself a "pot" head. :p

spitfirejunky
04-13-2009, 04:09 PM
how are you able to keep a 6 figure job and partake that lifestyle

Simple: don't smoke your lungs out.

DBoons Ghost
04-13-2009, 04:10 PM
how are you able to keep a 6 figure job and partake that lifestyle

Pot relaxes me after long stressful days. I am not sure what you truly equate to being a pothead. I smoke a bowl a night. 2 hits maybe? That's it. I don't smoke myself retarded ever, and I only smoke at night. I take breaks here and there, and I never smoke while working, and I don't smoke enough the night before work to wake up "cloudy" or hungover.

You'd be pretty shocked at exactly how many people smoke pot on a nightly basis and live perfectly normal lives. I'm not saying they are better people or worse, nor would I ever condone the use of an illegal substance to justify reducing stress levels. If you view it as a crutch, chances are I would likely respect your opinion and maybe even agree.

Gattsu347
04-13-2009, 04:15 PM
pothead has more of a stupid connotaion. i actually think stoner has a good connotaion. to me a stoner is someone who smokes and then enjoys other activies where a pothead enjoys smoking and then smoking more.

DBoons Ghost
04-13-2009, 04:16 PM
Also I don't drink excessively and I don't walk around high really at all. I rarely if ever smoke on the weekends oddly enough unless I am gonna watch a good movie, on weed, with the wife, in which case the wife and I burn together and enjoy the flick.

beso negro
04-13-2009, 04:28 PM
Pot relaxes me after long stressful days. I am not sure what you truly equate to being a pothead. I smoke a bowl a night. 2 hits maybe? That's it. I don't smoke myself retarded ever, and I only smoke at night. I take breaks here and there, and I never smoke while working, and I don't smoke enough the night before work to wake up "cloudy" or hungover.

You'd be pretty shocked at exactly how many people smoke pot on a nightly basis and live perfectly normal lives. I'm not saying they are better people or worse, nor would I ever condone the use of an illegal substance to justify reducing stress levels. If you view it as a crutch, chances are I would likely respect your opinion and maybe even agree.

I don't think pot is bad. i am not saying it hurts your work.

i'm just jealous that you can get a good job while doing illegal things. in my field government security clearances are important. if you can't get one your job market is cut in half or worse. current and even some former pot smokers wouldn't have a chance at getting one.

mph4ever
04-13-2009, 04:31 PM
I don't think pot is bad. i am not saying it hurts your work.

i'm just jealous that you can get a good job while doing illegal things. in my field government security clearances are important. if you can't get one your job market is cut in half or worse. current and even some former pot smokers wouldn't have a chance at getting one.

yeah, i've been out in MA socialising for food and beer and a blunt in the course of the evening and any of the people from the pigs, prison or military don't take a chance in case they are tested

Henry Cho
04-13-2009, 06:30 PM
A pothead thinks this is an important debate
A stoner thinks this is a world issue

Iskandar
04-13-2009, 06:46 PM
It is, isn't it? People do smoke all over the world.

Henry Cho
04-13-2009, 08:12 PM
It is, isn't it?

stoner

McP3000
04-13-2009, 10:58 PM
A pothead thinks this is an important debate
A stoner thinks this is a world issue
i like you

Aaron
04-14-2009, 12:21 AM
They're both the same in my books.

Chu
04-14-2009, 12:27 AM
I think there are negative connotations behind the term "pothead", not so much with "stoner" - I am pretty sure I would be considered a "stoner" (i.e. I cannot function while not high, that doesn't happen often though).

I think the differences come down to the type of person, someone who just smokes pot to get blazed and vege out is a "pothead", where as someone who gets blazed and does something* is a "stoner".
Of course, being either a pothead or a stoner implies strong use imo.

*Something could be fairly ambiguous...

kitsch
04-14-2009, 06:25 AM
pothead is worse

im not either.

ill smoke once every month at a party maybe.

theres time periods where ill smoke it every weekend for a few weeks or so.

back when i was 16, smoked everyday.

DBoons Ghost
04-14-2009, 08:39 AM
I don't think pot is bad. i am not saying it hurts your work.

i'm just jealous that you can get a good job while doing illegal things. in my field government security clearances are important. if you can't get one your job market is cut in half or worse. current and even some former pot smokers wouldn't have a chance at getting one.

I usually have to take a piss test when I join a firm, in which case I quit months before so I can pass. When I am free and clear, I blaze up. If there were reoccurring drug tests I would simply quit, if I had no choice.

I don't think anyone in their right mind would alter the course of their career to smoke a little reefer. It shouldn't be that important to anyone.

beso negro
04-14-2009, 10:26 AM
I usually have to take a piss test when I join a firm, in which case I quit months before so I can pass. When I am free and clear, I blaze up. If there were reoccurring drug tests I would simply quit, if I had no choice.

I don't think anyone in their right mind would alter the course of their career to smoke a little reefer. It shouldn't be that important to anyone.

If passing a piss test was all that was needed to get a clearance no one would have anything to worry about. Except that for government clearances investigators will talk to just about everyone you've ever known asking for character flaws (going back 7 to 10 years). And if you lie to the investigator, that's a federal offense.

This is why i'm looking for jobs in the private sector haha.

Specialsauce
04-14-2009, 10:42 AM
I usually have to take a piss test when I join a firm, in which case I quit months before so I can pass. When I am free and clear, I blaze up. If there were reoccurring drug tests I would simply quit, if I had no choice.

I don't think anyone in their right mind would alter the course of their career to smoke a little reefer. It shouldn't be that important to anyone.

It also shouldn't be important to enough to employers, IMO. Maybe with jobs like pilots and truck drivers with some serious insurance issues, but any other employer who wants a piss test should just back off.

mph4ever
04-14-2009, 10:45 AM
its going to be real funny when they ask you to disclose your forum names and the forums on which you posted, sort of like a cyber previous address test, only thing is they will be able to see your opinions on lots of things that may have changed in the meantime

(and just in case that does happen i want them to know that i will never retract my undying hate for pigs, k)

nungman
04-14-2009, 01:35 PM
This thread belongs in the GD.

I've never been called either and I been smoking the goods for 20 years now. I am not a stoner because jam bands all suck and I am a productive person, but I would welcome the pothead label because I do smoke every night.

I guess that makes me a boring worthless person even though it's likely I am worth more than whole generations of people who claimed ignorance a few posts up.

Way to be dumber than your average stoner eh?

both are usually worthless and boring

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iliketoplaydrums10111
04-14-2009, 01:55 PM
I smoke several times a night, so that makes me a pothead I guess. But i love people who generalize like that, when in fact I have 16 hours of classes a week, I work 10 hours a week on a research project, on top of doing loads of homework daily and chores around the house, and going to gym daily, all the while being in the top 20% of my class

call me stoner or pothead, but the fact is im way more productive than loads of people

DBoons Ghost
04-14-2009, 02:24 PM
...

Don't you know by now what a douche I am?

McP3000
04-14-2009, 03:47 PM
I smoke several times a night, so that makes me a pothead I guess. But i love people who generalize like that, when in fact I have 16 hours of classes a week, I work 10 hours a week on a research project, on top of doing loads of homework daily and chores around the house, and going to gym daily, all the while being in the top 20% of my class

call me stoner or pothead, but the fact is im way more productive than loads of people
so youre a narcissistic pothed

beso negro
04-14-2009, 04:31 PM
It also shouldn't be important to enough to employers, IMO. Maybe with jobs like pilots and truck drivers with some serious insurance issues, but any other employer who wants a piss test should just back off.

well it shows that you are willing to break the law for reasons of self indulgence which can be considered a character flaw.

ridethelib
04-14-2009, 04:56 PM
so youre a narcissistic pothed

i lol'd

iliketoplaydrums10111
04-14-2009, 07:42 PM
so youre a narcissistic pothed

if the boot fits

horseypie
04-14-2009, 11:23 PM
It also shouldn't be important to enough to employers, IMO. Maybe with jobs like pilots and truck drivers with some serious insurance issues, but any other employer who wants a piss test should just back off.

are you kidding me
i dont know how the USA's OH&S acts are, but my guess is theyd be stricter than Australia's seeings as yanks always seem to be sueing each other over anything and everything. if someone at your workplace causes or is in an accident and workcover a) find out that there are illegal drugs in your system or b) find out that the employer hasnt been drug testing permanent members of staff before signing them on insurance will not cover the employer, meaning big expenses for them. it doesnt matter what the accident is, the employer is basically ****ed
businesses need to cover their asses too

FIGHTCRIMEALLTHETIME
04-15-2009, 12:14 AM
um well i smoke when i can which usually isnt too often cuz sometimes there is a family stash i can hit up or sometimes a friend has some
or on a very rare occasion i am loaded w/ enough cash to buy some for myself
its just not worth it enough to me to spend the money to smoke every day
but i do drink everyday which is way worse but who gives a fuk im happy to be wasted as i type this

Crapdragoon
04-15-2009, 03:37 AM
i just think its pretty dumb to call anyone a stoner or a pothead.

you smoke, or you don't and using frequency of use to differentiate between smokers is lame.

Black Ink
04-15-2009, 04:00 AM
i just think its pretty dumb to call anyone a stoner or a pothead.

you smoke, or you don't and using frequency of use to differentiate between smokers is lame.

Right like you're either sober or an alcoholic.

mph4ever
04-15-2009, 08:13 AM
Right like you're either sober or an alcoholic.

surely it should be more like "you drink alcohol or you don't"

Black Ink
04-15-2009, 08:18 AM
surely it should be more like "you drink alcohol or you don't"

Yeah but the way you measure an alcoholic vs a casual drinker is by the quantity/frequency of drinking.

wartomods
04-15-2009, 08:28 AM
I consider myself a junkie, i shoot 2 to 3 times a day

die of starvation
04-15-2009, 08:56 AM
pothead is someone who smokes way too much


stoner is someone who also smokes too much but wears annoying hippie memorabilia.


stoner is worse.

agreeee

honourosis
04-15-2009, 08:57 AM
A pothead thinks this is an important debate
A stoner thinks this is a world issue

haah

die of starvation
04-15-2009, 08:59 AM
pothead cough is the worst if u have that never go in public

funluvinhobo
04-15-2009, 11:23 AM
Describing somebody as a pothead is much worse than a stoner I think, pothead is somebody who smokes all the time and lets it get in the way of a normal life while a stoner is somebody who smokes for fun but just quite often.

non<seldom<occasional<casual<often<stoner<pothead

MurderererII
04-15-2009, 11:37 AM
omgz u do the pot

mph4ever
04-15-2009, 03:49 PM
Describing somebody as a pothead is much worse than a stoner I think, pothead is somebody who smokes all the time and lets it get in the way of a normal life while a stoner is somebody who smokes for fun but just quite often.

non<seldom<occasional<casual<often<stoner<pothead

we're from the same couple of fields and i don't hear pothead so much. agreed on the stoners though

class
04-15-2009, 05:30 PM
i'm neither.

i smoke pot quite often too. i'm obviously an exception to the rule.

Badmoon
04-15-2009, 07:43 PM
potheads are old news

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v103/badmoon349/lines-of-cocaine-flickr-jp-ireland.jpg

geeksquad's here to stay

(*The Noonward Race*)
04-15-2009, 11:57 PM
how are you able to keep a 6 figure job and partake that lifestyle
lol wtf kind of question is that

Specialsauce
04-16-2009, 12:17 AM
Yeah, if anything, a 6 figure job would only enable you to smoke more often.

Charlie Chaplin
04-16-2009, 01:39 AM
If passing a piss test was all that was needed to get a clearance no one would have anything to worry about. Except that for government clearances investigators will talk to just about everyone you've ever known asking for character flaws (going back 7 to 10 years). And if you lie to the investigator, that's a federal offense.

This is why i'm looking for jobs in the private sector haha.
What an earth do you do that requires that much dirt digging?

JohnXDoe3
04-16-2009, 01:40 AM
i smoke weed and am neither stoner or pothead

i'm just a guy who smokes weed on occasion

(*The Noonward Race*)
04-16-2009, 01:41 AM
i didnt have a job and then i smoked a drug test and now i do

JohnXDoe3
04-16-2009, 01:42 AM
*takes note

in case i ever needs a job

Nostalgia
04-16-2009, 01:50 AM
I smoke occasionally, but only when with my brother and I never buy it anymore. Weed doesn't relax me, it actually makes me more stressed out and conscious. Two things I get enough of throughout the day, you know?

But sometimes it's nice.

BridgeToSolace
04-16-2009, 01:56 AM
Pothead refers to the amount you smoke.
Stoner prefers to your general demeanor.
A pothead isn't necessarily a stoner, and a stoner isn't necessarily a pothead.

If someone thinks that you smoke pot after 5-10 minutes with you, then you're a stoner.

If you smoke a lot, you're a pothead.

I'm not sure how much "a lot" means, though.

Badmoon
04-16-2009, 01:59 AM
just for conversation, how much you guys pay for a G, and how much do you get?

Specialsauce
04-16-2009, 02:17 AM
50 US dollars for 3.5 grams. Don't know what a G is. you mean a gram?

Badmoon
04-16-2009, 02:22 AM
Yea, gram.


But yea, around from my area -- bear in mind I don't smoke anymore -- $50 would by you 3.5g's (maybe a bit more) and $60 would give you 4.0+.

Anything less (where I'm from) would be rude, and then the dealer would probably deserve to be jacked.

But I'm surprised our general price range is so similar. I could go 30 minutes away from my house and get prices so completely different it's not even funny.