Rap In Different Time Signatures

[BridgeToSolace]

I'm kind of curious if this exists. I'm sure there's some rap 3/4 and 6/4 but I think it would be interesting to see how an artist flows with alternative or weird time signatures.

Are there any rap artists that are notable for not exclusively using 4/4 or 3/4?

I'm not very educated or well versed in the genre (although I'm not against), so feel free to call this a stupid question and move on :)

[comity]

why would anyone want that it would be awful

[illmitch]

rappers don't exactly rap in different time signatures as they do, well, basically alter the speed and rhythm of their flow

[CaptainWaits]

progressive hip-hop? I wouldn't think there'd be anything like that, just because hip-hop is pretty well based around lyrical flow and groove.

[BridgeToSolace]

Which is why it'd be neat if you could weave some lyrical groove around a non-standard time signature :p

And to the first guy it'd be awful if it was done poorly. Just like how any music is awful if done poorly.

[comity]

no it would be awful no matter what

[Correction]

bridgetospace you can be the first to do this im gonna allow it

[comity]

bro do you like math rap??

[ATM]

Busdriver

[illmitch]

busdriver makes me barf

[thunderzstruck]

no it would be awful no matter what
why? i think its something artists should definitely explore. It an artist can get a definitive groove down and a feel for the signature it'd create some awesome sounds

[BridgeToSolace]

bridgetospace you can be the first to do this im gonna allow it

Only my avatar is black; I lack the pre-requisite skills.

[Gattsu347]

i think that would be cool, but kinda tough to pull off well. rap has been 4/4 since the dinosaurs

[Correction]

Only my avatar is black; I lack the pre-requisite skills.
that is racist gtfo

[kitsch]

this would be cool... progressive rap

[illmitch]

As long as they're rapping about bitches and selling coke I'll be happy.

[CaptainWaits]

I couldn't really imagine it....I'd be stoked to hear something like it though

[Meatplow]

i want to see a 7/4 rap that plays off a 4/4 chorus that I can compare to the structure of several soundgarden songs

[pixiesfanyo]

Outkast - The Whole World

[kingsoby1]

Candiria does a lot of non-4/4 stuff, but they also do a lot of metal. I wouldn't call using alternative time sigs "progressive" so much... i mean, i guess it is, but other qualities define that term in hip-hop.

[BridgeToSolace]

It is progressive in the context of rap. The term 'progressive' just means going beyond the normal and in the context of rap alternative time signatures is certainly doing that.

[kingsoby1]

from my last post, i meant to say that candiria does hiphop in non-4/4, not just metal. and it's not rap-rock either.

[Iai]

There are freestyles over the Hey Ya beat all over the place and that's got a bar of 3/4 every so often

[niobium]

i was thinking about this the other day. should be done

[itisaniceday]

I couldn't really imagine it....I'd be stoked to hear something like it though! Follow and dance maybe.

[gaslight]

Yeah, I've never heard any hip hop with a complex time signature.

It wouldn't be impossible but it would be very difficult, just a matter of adjusting to an appropriate meter. If there's someone out there rapping over 5 or 7 I'd be very curious to hear it.

[borislav_tonev]

I think MIA might have used some... by the way I just registered for this forum coz I am trying to sample an old Bulgarian song and I need to find out what key it's in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVZVynWtK1k ... the song is in 3/4 time and I'm pretty much finished with it except I wanna add a bassline and I cant do that by chopping samples :) if u guys would help me that would be appreciated:) sorry for the offtopic but i am not allowed to post new threads yet... hope this doesnt look weird to you guys but its just that i really wanted to sample that song for a long time and i couldnt find anyone to help me with the key on the other forum i regularly post in so i came here... hope i dont get deleted

[JizzInMyPants]

well POS does it alittle bit....

and sadistik incorporates songwriting into his raps

[gaslight]

that is racist gtfo

Well, racist to non-Africans if anything.

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

i do beats in odd time i was gonna do another mix of one in seven for this thread but i forgot ill put it up in a few days or less

the vocals i think it's possible to flow over different cycles, i mean its just music

but the ppl im gonna hear do it are prolly gonna be crappy, i have an idea of the sound tho

[andyneverstoppingmachine]

there's probably a lot of potential in sampling

take five would make a dope beat

[Amit]

progressive is the worst term in music since "jazzy"

why people continue to label decidedly and unilaterally non-progressive artists, trends, and practices as "progressive" is beyond me

UGHHHH

[gaslight]

The progressive thing is easy - don't take a genre name literally, something being "progressive" doesn't mean it pushes boundaries any more, what it means is that it fits the aesthetic of a style that at one time was considered to be progressive. I know it's annoying though that everyone thinks having a 20 minute song makes you progressive or whatever, but hey, the world is full of idiots, what can you do.

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

at one time was considered to be progressive.amit proly means that even then it's not really applicable

maybe a more interesting discussion is about the perception of musical progress

[gaslight]

Let's not get into a whole thing about it.

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

I'd rather though, I like talking about music.

[gaslight]

Oh me too but those discussions always turn into go-nowhere roundabout arguments.

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

There's always a chance of learning a new idea.

[gaslight]

Well if you want to start a thread I'll have a read, maybe we'll have fun.

[horseypie]

new ideas are for the weak