Modest Mouse

[lwatkins]

What more needs to be said?

[Gnarmageddon]

Can't stand them.

[kitsch]

hey man, havent seen you around in a while.

modest mouse are good, but after lonesome their albums started to be half filler thats somehow still strangely entertaining half the time.

[nedchambers]

i'd say after TM&A, but then that album was one of those records for me that soundtracked a pretty hectic time of my life so i have loads of emotional associations with it. love modest mouse. This is a Long Drive for Someone with Nothing to Think About is fast becoming my favourite album of theirs, funnily enough.

[horseypie]

mark kozelek does them better

[kitsch]

this is a long drive is so badass

[Liebensaft]

Long Drive barely edges LCW in my book, and The Moon and Antarctica marked the beginning of a steady decline, though that one isn't too bad. I don't really listen to anything post TM&A at all.

[Aaron]

They're kinda hit-and-miss.

[Ganondorf]

Lonesome and Crowded West and The Moon.. are pretty good, I also didnt't find Good News... that bad tbh.

[jrowa001]

i never liked Modest Mouse because i only heard their recent 2 albums. but a few months ago i listened to The Lonesome Crowded West and i couldnt believe that was the same band. album was fantastic. also got The moon & Antarctica which is also great. its been a while since ive listened to their recent albums, maybe ill give them another shot.

[SDB]

I distinctly remember the first time I heard "Tiny Cities Made of Ashes" and my immediate thought was "what the hell am I listening to here?" It took me a while but they sort of grew on me, though I really do have to be in the right mood to truly enjoy them -- they're still a little off-kilter for my usual taste.

[Liebensaft]

Pre-Good News is it. Don't worry about the rest (except "Spitting Venom" is gnar).

[nedchambers]

mark kozelek does them better

dude, really? that covers album is a snooze.

seconded about Spitting Venom being gnar

[Interstate]

Listened to The Lonesome Crowded West again the other day for the first time in ages, it's pretty fun.

[horseypie]

dude, really? that covers album is a snooze.

seconded about Spitting Venom being gnar

lol really? its the only sun kil moon album i can listen to the whole way through. but i think its really really good

[Matt?]

that cover album is alright. not as good.

i like the b-sides building nothing out of something album.

[emaillovesyou]

Honestly, this is what pisses me off.

Modest Mouse is always going to be my all time favorite band, but I always see "after *insert album name here* they weren't that good."

I think that's bullshit. They didn't start sucking. They changed their sound, and they grew up. If you actually do music and write your own material and whatnot, you realize that everyone eventually matures not only as a person, but as a musician. This is why all bands that were heavily emotional changed their style down the line. Nirvana did it, Deftones did it, Modest Mouse did it, countless others still do it.

The thing about indie people is that we don't like change. We don't welcome it, we want our favorite bands to sound the same forever, and the reason we do this with older bands is because subconsciously, we take a lot of pride in listening to our older, more underground music. The feeling that we get from listening to an album in which a band has experimented with their style of music isn't a "god this sucks" feeling, it's just indie kids being hypocritical and not listening to something because it's not what they're used to.

I'll admit that Good News for People Who Love Bad News sounded slightly half assed, but We Were Dead Before the Ship Even Sank was an amazing album. Fire it Up, We've Got Everything, Florida, Little Motel, most of the tracks on that album are amazing by today's standards, and by the same standards set place back in the 90s.

[Zorg]

I really couldn't listen to them after Isaac Brock raped that chick.

[kitsch]

Honestly, this is what pisses me off.

Modest Mouse is always going to be my all time favorite band, but I always see "after *insert album name here* they weren't that good."

I think that's bullpoop. They didn't start sucking. They changed their sound, and they grew up. If you actually do music and write your own material and whatnot, you realize that everyone eventually matures not only as a person, but as a musician. This is why all bands that were heavily emotional changed their style down the line. Nirvana did it, Deftones did it, Modest Mouse did it, countless others still do it.

The thing about indie people is that we don't like change. We don't welcome it, we want our favorite bands to sound the same forever, and the reason we do this with older bands is because subconsciously, we take a lot of pride in listening to our older, more underground music. The feeling that we get from listening to an album in which a band has experimented with their style of music isn't a "god this sucks" feeling, it's just indie kids being hypocritical and not listening to something because it's not what they're used to.

I'll admit that Good News for People Who Love Bad News sounded slightly half assed, but We Were Dead Before the Ship Even Sank was an amazing album. Fire it Up, We've Got Everything, Florida, Little Motel, most of the tracks on that album are amazing by today's standards, and by the same standards set place back in the 90s.

lol. its not that the later stuff is bad on its own, its just that it pales in comparison to the older stuff. its like dj shadow, all his **** after endtroducing was mediocre. or disillusion's back to the times of splendor. they couldnt top it and "changed" their sound. maybe the fact is that they moved away from the indie sound, so fans of indie didnt like it. youre a fan of modest mouse.

I really couldn't listen to them after Isaac Brock raped that chick.

lolwut

[Reaganista]

they're ok bankrupt on selling is they best song imo
float on is good 2 despite u guys hatin on it

[Liebensaft]

Beach Side Property
Edit the Sad Parts

probably my favs, but it's such a hard thing to decide

[kitsch]

beach side property for me as well
and bankrupt on selling, haha

[Liebensaft]

I love Interstate 8 a lot because it combines a lot of my favorite songs from other albums as well as some not found anywhere else. It's so good.

Sadly they are terrible live and don't play more than 2-3 songs from albums before Good News. Not worth the admission price.

[kitsch]

that sounds pretty gay. i remember seeing a vid of them live where the mic shorts out and issac, who is obv intoxicated, decides to pull out a knife and cut the chord. he flails around and ends up slicing himself across the chest. it was pretty lol.

[Liebensaft]

Yeah, I've seen that too. They're bad live these days, but I'd love to see them about 10 years ago. The best part when I saw them was Man Man opening.

[sadisticmonkey]

my favorite band...

[Baked]

I do love Modest Mouse. That's sad they're not good live, you'd think by all that energy they create in the studio they could put on a fiery live performance.

I like all of their albums really, none of that "I don't like them after" stuff. Favorite songs include "Jesus Christ Was An Only Child", "Ohio", "Paper Thin Walls", "Parting of the Sensory", and "Cowboy Dan". Lots of good music from these guys in my opinion.

[kitsch]

its not that their later albums arent that good, (they all warrant about a 3 or 3.5/5) its just that the drop off in quality after lonesome (maybe m&a) was immense.

[Donkey]

And they developed a poppy sound and stuck themselves on Rockband.

[Aaron]

Oh no! Popularity and recognition!!

they're ok bankrupt on selling is they best song imo
float on is good 2 despite u guys hatin on it
I feel dirty agreeing with you.

[Against Miik!]

I really liked We Were Dead Before... just as much as their old stuff. I don't think its better or worse, it's just different. And they still rock.

I mean, how can a band acquire Johnny Marr and get worse?

[Supernewman]

I really couldn't listen to them after Isaac Brock raped that chick.

That was never confirmed, and Brock still claims he never did it. I wouldn't put it past anyone to claim rape after a drunken mistake or even afterwards regretting having done it anyways. Not to mention the guy signed Wolf Parade to Sub Pop, that alone should counteract rape allegations.

Regardless personal details are no reason to not listen to a band or not. True music fans should be discouraging that sort of papparazzi, stars lives on the news, garbage. Having an idea of what influences their music is one thing, but following their lives and judging the music on their personal choices is another.

But on the topic, I think emaillovesyou is totally right, most people on here only like up to TM&A, some not even that far. Interestingly enough Good News and We Were Dead made it in the top 20 on the Billboard Top 200, whereas TM&A made it within the top 200, around 120. So the base of fans for the albums seems to drop a bit when the albums makes it on the Billboard Top 200 and almost completely drops when it's in the top 20? Seems like a confirmation of what emaillovesyou to me, personally I love Modest Mouse and like all of the albums, but prefer the latest three.

[Matt?]

why would signing wolf parade mean anything? that band is terrible...

[Liebensaft]

why would signing wolf parade mean anything? that band is terrible...

You're hipper than hip.

But that whole signing business is irrelevant.

[Matt?]

they're no The Arcade Fire that's for sure

[Liebensaft]

Word. Clean the sand out of your vagina.

[Already_Taken]

it's been agreed the whole world stinks so noone's takin' showers anymore

everyone's a vouyeurist they're watching me watch them watch me right now

personal favorites.

[Matt?]

Word. Clean the sand out of your vagina.

i can't help being hip. it comes naturally

[Gattsu347]

Cowboy Dan is the best song

[Baked]

A few months ago I read a book called "A Pretty Good Read" by Alan Goldsher about the band. Not too detailed but it was indeed a good read, lots of cool tid bits and whatnot.

[guitarded_chuck]

The Lonseome Crowded West is my favorite album of theirs, but to be honest they haven't put out much material that I don't like. Even the newer albums have their ups and downs. Their newest album is the weakest to me, but like I said even it has some good songs.

I didn't know there was a book written about them... might have to check it out.

[Supernewman]

But that whole signing business is irrelevant.

That was ultimately my point, hence why I said regardless of that their personal lives shouldn't affect if we listen to a band or how we as listeners accept the music.

What I was trying to say is that for as many things that people do which may be irritating, say having rape allegations against them, there is probably something equally good going for them, say having signed a band that I personally enjoy. And when all these qualities are finally all summed up and put against the artist it won't change how the music sounds. All it can possibly do is provide an insight as to where the music is coming from, but again, that doesn't change the quality of the music itself.

Also, Arcade Fire is awesome.

[loveissucide]

Got Good News first.Really liked it but then I was 14.Havn't been able to get into the other stuff.

[tom79]

Probably my favourite band if I had to pick one, top 5 at least. Long Drive, LCW, BNOoS and M&A are all excellent albums that I still listen to often. And between their last two albums, while not great as a whole, still have a handful of great songs.

[sadisticmonkey]

A few months ago I read a book called "A Pretty Good Read" by Alan Goldsher about the band. Not too detailed but it was indeed a good read, lots of cool tid bits and whatnot.

that book is full of misinformation and speculation. Isaac said himself that if he ever met Alan Goldsher again, he'd love to break his neck.

[huxtaposition]

my favorite band. good news was the first album i heard, bukowski, satin in a coffin, devils workday, all great songs. then i found their older stuff which was 10x better. ship even sank had some good tracks, march on, steam engenius, of course spitting venom, but a lot of those songs are real pussy compared to his old kickass stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACFac0IZ1sE

thats a great cowboy dan live vid with an extra verse thrown in at the end. ****ing amazing.

king rat is real good too i can't wait for their new album, No One's First and You're Next i guess it'll be called.

[NMBlack]

so i just so happened to be trolling this forum really hard when i found this thread. i'll be honest and say that i've only really heard modest mouse songs on like mtv and whatnot, but i gave a listen to alot of the songs people mentioned as their favorites in here and i'm blown away. real good shlt, and i'm definitely going to keep listening now.

[Liebensaft]

That was kind of how I felt when I heard their older music for the first time. I remember being in 10th grade and having a friend really into them and thinking he was joking, having only heard "Float On" and stuff. Then I downloaded some stuff and couldn't stop listening to it for a week.

[NMBlack]

That was kind of how I felt when I heard their older music for the first time. I remember being in 10th grade and having a friend really into them and thinking he was joking, having only heard "Float On" and stuff. Then I downloaded some stuff and couldn't stop listening to it for a week.

yea man, this shiit is quality.

[lwatkins]

i once did a cover version of **** Luck @ my website http://www.myspace.com/leowatkinshomerecordings

theyre pretty fun songs to cover because - especially on the earlier stuff - you can mess around with the songs a bit more.

Doin the cockroach, spiting venom, teeth like gods..., satin in a coffin, **** luck, and weve got everything are their best.

[NMBlack]

so, i went out and bought 2 modest mouse albums yesterday, and i'm really blown away. i'm mainly into punk, and relaxed isn't typically the feeling that most of the music i listen to evokes, but this **** puts me in a trance. i'm a little bummed, cause "this is a long drive home for someone with nothing to think about" doesn't have the bonus tracks on it. i was looking forward to edit the sad parts, but i can deal without i guess. great stuff.

[Liebensaft]

See if you can find Interstate 8 somewhere online, maybe soulseek. That's got Edit the Sad Parts and various other good songs on it.

[kitsch]

i got really drunk yesterday but we started drinking at like 6 pm so we ran out of booze and by 12 am we were considerably less drunk with a little headache and just decided to listen to this is a long drive for someone with nothing to think about and chain smoke.

[Zero0Bass]

I just like the really spazzy, trebly guitar work they've always done. Very different sound when it first came out. I'm not super into their newer stuff, but I don't **** on it nearly as bad as a lot of their fans do. Its still fairly solid, and I wouldn't feel the least bit guilty about buying 'em. Lonesome Crowded West and Moon and Antarctica are my favorites.

[kitsch]

kinda!

[NMBlack]

See if you can find Interstate 8 somewhere online, maybe soulseek. That's got Edit the Sad Parts and various other good songs on it.

i want them all, im so addicted to this shiit right now haha

[Liebensaft]

Interstate 8
http://www.mediafire.com/?jyej1g7flg9

from
http://pukeskywalker.blogspot.com/2008/02/modest-mouse-interstate-8-ep-1996.html

[lwatkins]

i got really drunk yesterday but we started drinking at like 6 pm so we ran out of booze and by 12 am we were considerably less drunk with a little headache and just decided to listen to this is a long drive for someone with nothing to think about and chain smoke.


that sounds so cool. It is ultimate party music isnt it! :D

[NMBlack]

Interstate 8
http://www.mediafire.com/?jyej1g7flg9

from
http://pukeskywalker.blogspot.com/2008/02/modest-mouse-interstate-8-ep-1996.html


thanks dude, downloading this now. btw, when are you going to canada?

[Liebensaft]

thanks dude, downloading this now. btw, when are you going to canada?

Enjoy. Definitely one of my favorites. I'm pretty sure I'm going July 17-20 or so. Somewhere around the middle or end of July. More and more of my friends keep getting flaky or backing out. Hopefully it doesn't end up just being a trip with me and my girlfriend, but that wouldn't be too bad either, I guess.

[NMBlack]

i'm really enjoying interstate 8 man, it has edit the sad parts and the version of beachside property i really wanted. yea, i'm having the same problems with the canada trip planning. everyone wants to go, but no one is really going through with it. i think i'm going july 24th or so.

[Cubik125]

Tiny Cities Made of Ashes
3rd Planet
Float On
Bankrupt on Selling
Gravity Rides Everything
Dramamine
Lounge (Closing Time)

:)

[lwatkins]

Tiny Cities Made of Ashes
3rd Planet
Float On
Bankrupt on Selling
Gravity Rides Everything
Dramamine
Lounge (Closing Time)

:)

why is float on in there? it doesnt seem to fit. All of your other choices are more of the obscure stuff.

[sweboy]

float on is catchy, why you hatin' bro

[guitarded_chuck]

woo modest mouse is finally coming to my town!! only $30 too woop

[lwatkins]

nanana dont worry I dont hate float on at all. not even in the slightest. its just a very commercial song compared to the others on that list, thats all.

[DENEpants]

float on isn't that great or that catchy

little motel
city made of ashes
dramamine
3rd planet
and mostly just we were dead before the ship even sank.

[Gattsu347]

the lonesome crowded west is pretty good music. too depressing for me to listen to often though.

[robertsona]

i got lonesome crowded west like four days ago

[NMBlack]

band is 100% sick

[DENEpants]

they're hella sick

[foxxxy]

favorite band

[nedchambers]

Life Like Weeds
Dramamine
Make Everyone Happy/Mechanical Birds
Teeth Like God's Shoeshine
She Ionizes & Atomizes
Spitting Venom

yeah

[team_racket]

s'all about sad sappy sucker

[foxxxy]

wat no

[Golgoroth]

I love TM&A.

[stevensonmat2]

so many great songs and albums.

[Liebensaft]

We Were Dead's only real virtue is Spitting Venom. Anyone who disagrees is obviously unaware of their other music.

[foxxxy]

i disagree

[Liebensaft]

"Fly Trapped in a Jar" and "Invisible" aren't as boring as the rest, I suppose.

[foxxxy]

the only songs i dont enjoy immensely are education and steam engenius

[Liebensaft]

Lucky you.

[Sep]

the only songs i dont enjoy immensely are education and steam engenius

That one line in Education makes up for it I think. "Call it education all those books I didn't read, they just sat there on my shelf lookin' much smarter than me." But I agree those songs are pretty filler.

[foxxxy]

thanks sep