homelessness

[Already_Taken]

I'm in college. Doing fine. I have a nice car, nice guitars, a nice computer, a decent apartment, basically I'm doing fine thanks in large part to my parents. But the more I get the more I realize this isn't me. I've actually been thinking about how I wouldn't mind being homeless for a while. If for no reason other than a life experience, and potentially a lifestyle choice.

Beggars have a job in my opinion as well, a tough job at that, which is to make the well-to-do look at the world in a sobering light. Also, in this country, the USA, homeless people are automatically stigmatized as lazy bums, and it would be funny for me to laugh at all the people who try to pity me, as I'd go hungry before I accepted their "charity" which was laced with judgment.

I'm looking for an honest man... anyone else?

[Alf™]

Being homeless would suck.

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

Do you realize you would not have a home as a result of this lifestyle change? Just go gay instead.

[kitsch]

dude, i gotta admit, im with you on this.

im almost 19, a senior in high school and have already spent a fair amount of time homeless. i come from a rather affluent family, but my parents dont give me money, and i honestly dont want it. ive been beaten and thrown out of my house numerous times, usually for drugs or "disrespect". (i once took too long in the bathroom in the morning and was being overtly "selfish")

this last time i was kicked out of my house for smoking pot. haha. i found this tunnel underneath the interstate and it opened up into a sort of drainage shute, but it wasnt being used. i easily surmised that it was a local skate spot, the shute was perfect for skating and it was covered with graffiti and litter, etc. the surrounding area even had a campfire pit. i ended up living there for a week.

i plan on spending a large portion of my life homeless, bumming around the country. ive got connections in a few places that will let me stay there. im going to san diego for three months this summer, then off to denver. transportation is no problem, as greyhound has this companion pass thing were you and one other person can travel around the country, get off anywhere and get back on for one year and its only like 400-500 bucks.

if you decide to do anything like this man, keep posting in the internet cafes/libraries and i might see you on the road.

"practice charity without holding in mind any conceptions about charity, for charity after all is just a word"

[kitsch]

Being homeless would suck.

it does man. its not about comfort tho. when youre out there pitting yourself against the environment, against everything, you discover how strong you are, how much you can actually take before it beats you. a lot of people never test themselves like this nowadays, but you find out a lot about yourself.

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

im almost 19, a senior in high school and have already spent a fair amount of time homeless.hey im 19 too i wanna be homeless too itll be rad, no working oh sweet!! get to play video games all the time!
i come from a rather affluent family, but my parents dont give me money, and i honestly dont want it. ive been beaten and thrown out of my house numerous times, usually for drugs or "disrespect". (i once took too long in the bathroom in the morning and was being overtly "selfish")well stop touching yourself
this last time i was kicked out of my house for smoking pot. haha.ur your parents home great place to smoke droogs
i found this tunnel underneath the interstate and it opened up into a sort of drainage shute, but it wasnt being used. i easily surmised that it was a local skate spot, the shute was perfect for skating and it was covered with graffiti and litter, etc. the surrounding area even had a campfire pit. i ended up living there for a week.what did you eat? did you run to 711 and heat up ur burritos?
i plan on spending a large portion of my life homeless,thats not something you plan, and if it does that mean you've given up already
if you decide to do anything like this man, keep posting in the internet cafes/libraries and i might see you on the road.im comming too itll be mxery everywhere
"practice charity without holding in mind any conceptions about charity, for charity after all is just a word""i think charity is dumb but i love the self gratification high i get"

[sweboy]

homelessness can be a huge problems for people without homes

[Badmoon]

I have spent time living in and out of other friends cars, trying to go house to house, and generally not having a home for a little while. It's not something to be romanticized.

But if you do go for the homelessness thing you want, keep in mind that if you ever get too hungry -- commit a crime that'll put you in jail -- they'll feed you there. ha

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

hey im 19 too i wanna be homeless too itll be rad, no working oh sweet!! get to play video games all the time!
well stop touching yourself
ur your parents home great place to smoke droogs
what did you eat? did you run to 711 and heat up ur burritos?
thats not something you plan, and if it does that mean you've given up already
im comming too itll be mxery everywhere
"i think charity is dumb but i love the self gratification high i get"
hey guy what are you talking about you're not a home!

you don't know this!

[Already_Taken]

thats not something you plan, and if it does that mean you've given up already


typical

badmoon, life is what you make of it.

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

typical

badmoon, life is what you make of it.
its bs everything i type on this website regarding my opinions are pretty much bs and manipulation

[808]

This thread is ****ing stupid.

[kitsch]

hey im 19 too i wanna be homeless too itll be rad, no working oh sweet!! get to play video games all the time!
well stop touching yourself
ur your parents home great place to smoke droogs
what did you eat? did you run to 711 and heat up ur burritos?
thats not something you plan, and if it does that mean you've given up already
im comming too itll be mxery everywhere
"i think charity is dumb but i love the self gratification high i get"

well the only thing worth responding to here is the food. i had money so i went to the grocery store and bought a loaf of bread, a can of peanut butter and a can of jelly. i showered at truck stops, and did the ol dine and dash.

i usually stay at friends houses who have their own place but i wanted to try living out there for a while.

[Already_Taken]

well noonward, if you can't be honest on the internet where it doesn't matter, i can't even imagine how shitty you are as a friend in real life.

if you are hungry and care about feeding yourself you can find compassionate people.

[kitsch]

This thread is ****ing stupid.

y??

well noonward, if you can't be honest on the internet where it doesn't matter, i can't even imagine how shitty you are as a friend in real life.

if you are hungry and care about feeding yourself you can find compassionate people.

hes schizo

[808]

Why would anyone choose to become homeless?

[Already_Taken]

because there's more important things in life than having a home and possessions?

[kitsch]

because its thrilling and were stupid kids who are lying their asses off and have just read too many kerouac books.


besides, self-inflicted disenfranchisement can lead to some startling revelations. ever heard of starving artist syndrome? its about seeing things from another perspective. i love looking up and seeing sky, instead of roof.

[NortherlyNanook]

just don't become an alcoholic that's not so fun

[808]

Then go out into your backyard, you ****head.

[Jay Link]

I have never been completely homeless, but in the 80's I lived in my car in LA for about a month and it was a very sobering experience. I learned to appreciate a nice house and all the other luxuries I have. Many times being homeless is not a choice, but a circumstance of variables not necesisarily caused by the homeless person.

[kitsch]

yea wino bums are tools

because there's more important things in life than having a home and possessions?
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[808]

because there's more important things in life than having a home and possessions?

Like what?

[Already_Taken]

or make the entire world your backyard

and to answer your second question, 808. self-fulfillment.

[kitsch]

Then go out into your backyard, you ****head.
backyards are limiting and you really shouldnt read **** like that literally.

or make the entire world your backyard
couldnt have said it better myself

[thunderzstruck]

Me and two good friends are probably going to backpack through parts of America next fall/winter

It's going to be so much fun

[Already_Taken]

i'm probably going to graduate college first, because that's all my mom wants from me at this point, and i owe her at least that and much more.

[mph4ever]

i had a bar in dublin straight across from a homeless refuge where they can drop in and get some food and can sleep there if they are not drunk or stoned. i got to talk to lots of the people from there. people go homeless for all sorts of reasons that are forced upon them. very few do it by choice but those that do are motivated by their general apathy for the imposed laws and structures of the consumer society. they just want to rid themselves of the stresses of life and bum around and they are very content doing it. it takes a special type of person to leave the material world behind in any way.

[808]

or make the entire world your backyard

and to answer your second question, 808. self-fulfillment.

LOL, okay.

[kitsch]

Me and two good friends are probably going to backpack through parts of America next fall/winter

It's going to be so much fun

man if youre doing it then be careful and stay south. i had to sleep outside one night in feb a couple years ago and it was one of the shittiest nights ever. being cold sucks.


i'm probably going to graduate college first, because that's all my mom wants from me at this point, and i owe her at least that and much more.

how far are you in school?

[kitsch]

i had a bar in dublin straight across from a homeless refuge where they can drop in and get some food and can sleep there if they are not drunk or stoned. i got to talk to lots of the people from there. people go homeless for all sorts of reasons that are forced upon them. very few do it by choice but those that do are motivated by their general apathy for the imposed laws and structures of the consumer society. they just want to rid themselves of the stresses of life and bum around and they are very content doing it. it takes a special type of person to leave the material world behind in any way.

that pretty much describes what i want to do and have done on a very small scale

[thunderzstruck]

man if youre doing it then be careful and stay south. i had to sleep outside one night in feb a couple years ago and it was one of the pooptiest nights ever. being cold sucks.
we're planning on starting in minnesota sometime in late summer/very early fall and going northwest slightly. Making it down pretty far south by the time winter hits and going back up to minnesota in the spring

[Already_Taken]

LOL, okay.

pretentious :rolleyes:

i just started year 3

[kitsch]

we're planning on starting in minnesota sometime in late summer/very early fall and going northwest slightly. Making it down pretty far south by the time winter hits and going back up to minnesota in the spring

man, thats risky. autumn nights are cold.

i just started year 3
if you really plan on doing it you should get a taste for it first and backpack in the summer or something.

[Already_Taken]

no cause then i won't come back. i have to finish college, lol

[thunderzstruck]

man, thats risky. autumn nights are cold.
yeah we've been thinking of what exactly to do. minnesota falls dont get bad until usually around early october which may not be enough time

we still havent figured out specifics so its just a rough idea

[Already_Taken]

i wish i had friends that would think that was fun. i live in an area where dudes wearing make up and jewelry is actually cool.

[thunderzstruck]

me and my friends like to go camping quite a bit (never done any big trips yet though) and my school in colorado has one of the best outdoor programs in the nation

[Already_Taken]

i will most definitely make my way to colorado. saw daft punk at red rocks there a few years back, colorado is awesome

[kitsch]

no cause then i won't come back. i have to finish college, lol

if you jump into it cold it would prob be a big shock and would suck and you wouldnt stick to it. its an aquired taste.

yeah we've been thinking of what exactly to do. minnesota falls dont get bad until usually around early october which may not be enough time

we still havent figured out specifics so its just a rough idea

well i suggest being south of indiana/illinois by the time october comes around. if not, youre going to have to stock up on a lot of thermal gear that will become cumbersome the further south you are. who wants to tote thermal underwear and an insulated sleeping bag around texas?

unless you just bring gasoline and start a fire every night, but i wouldnt want to rely on that.

[sr800bkBassist]

what do you mean by homeless?

there are 2 types of homeless:

bums are just that. bums. they sit, and "bum". they beg, don't offer their services to anyone else, and just sit and wait. they don't have hope or family or anything. they never do this by choice. and if you throw away everything you have to be like them because you think it might be "neat" or "fun", then you'll probably be getting a nice beating by some bums who didn't have the choice to be where they are and feel like teaching some rich kid a lesson.

then there are "hobos", the opposite. they travel, whether it's train-hopping or hitching or whatever, and look for work. they still live life, they just don't have a house. but they make the best out of life. they offer their services to others, whether it's by doing manual labor, temporarily dish-washing, playing music for people on the street (busking =/= begging), or whatever.


and while the latter of the two is by choice and ultimately more respectable, very few people are actually ready to to either. you're romanticizing everything. life isn't going to be as easy as you think. you'll be struggling just as much as you would in any other lifestyle, but this time you won't have a shelter over your head to give you a safe place to lie down and think at the end of the day.

[thunderzstruck]

ah ive always wanted to go to red rocks (a few friends of mine saw the john butler trio there) and its beautiful out there

[kitsch]

me and my friends like to go camping quite a bit (never done any big trips yet though) and my school in colorado has one of the best outdoor programs in the nation
im going to be in colorado this fall. camping in northern ontario cant be beat tho.

i will most definitely make my way to colorado. saw daft punk at red rocks there a few years back, colorado is awesome
i want to see a show at red rocks so damn bad

[Already_Taken]

what do you mean by homeless?

there are 2 types of homeless:

bums are just that. bums. they sit, and "bum". they beg, don't offer their services to anyone else, and just sit and wait. they don't have hope or family or anything. they never do this by choice. and if you throw away everything you have to be like them because you think it might be "neat" or "fun", then you'll probably be getting a nice beating by some bums who didn't have the choice to be where they are and feel like teaching some rich kid a lesson.

then there are "hobos", the opposite. they travel, whether it's train-hopping or hitching or whatever, and look for work. they still live life, they just don't have a house. but they make the best out of life. they offer their services to others, whether it's by doing manual labor, temporarily dish-washing, playing music for people on the street (busking =/= begging), or whatever.


and while the latter of the two is by choice and ultimately more respectable, very few people are actually ready to to either. you're romanticizing everything. life isn't going to be as easy as you think. you'll be struggling just as much as you would in any other lifestyle, but this time you won't have a shelter over your head to give you a safe place to lie down and think at the end of the day.

you have the wrong idea about me. my reasoning is i'm sick of living this easy life. i live in guilt every day and i hold the society i live in in contempt. i have an extremely hard work ethic, which breeds contempt when i see lazy [successful] people. i could rant for hours, but trust me, i'm not oblivious, not trying to romanticize anything, and know full and well what i'm talking about.

and obviously i'm going to play guitar for the rest of my life. i could sit on a corner and play classical guitar all day and i'd eat just fine.

[kitsch]

saying that a 9-5 job with a car payment and a mortgage is fulfilling is also romanticized.

[thickasabrick]

Being "homeless" sounds fun when you are young and sick of living comfortably and looking for adventure....and of course writers like Steinbeck and Kerouac helped to romanticize the lifestyle.

You have to be smart about it though, you might find that after two months of begging or stealing money and food you're sick of being homeless and you just want a warm bath and a nice bed to sleep in, but you've gone and got rid of all your possessions and quit your job and you don't even have enough money to buy proper clothes to go to a job interview.

Then you've screwed yourself over and will look like a douche when you go crawling back to your family and friends for money and shelter.

[sr800bkBassist]

well noonward, if you can't be honest on the internet where it doesn't matter, i can't even imagine how shitty you are as a friend in real life.

if you are hungry and care about feeding yourself you can find compassionate people.

dude, nobody respects a begger.

this bothers me, and i'll probably sound like some conservative nanny by saying this, but this just really gets me:
-person A has job and education and money (ok, fine)
-person A decides to throw it away for a life without dependencey on materials (ok, fine)
-person A goes out onto the street and gets hungry and needs to find a way to get food (ok, let's see how this can be solved)
-solution 1: person A, while preaching about how life is so much better without the need for a job and money, puts forth the effort to find food, whether it's by cleaning a floor or dishes in a restaurant for one night, or dumpster diving (for day-old food, it's perfectly clean) behind a grocer or bakery (perfectly acceptable and respectable)
-solution 2: while preaching about how life is so much better without the need for a job and money, person A decides to ask person B (random pedestrian) for the money that person B earned at their job, or the food that person B purchased with money from their full time job (this is hypocritical)



and you see this all the time. kids who CHOOSE to be homeless and preach about how they have seen a light and live a life with no materials and they don't depend on money and a job, but yet they DEPEND on the people that have money and jobs to be nice and give them the products that came from the employed capitalist lifestyle that person A rejected.
it gives travelers and homeless a bad name.

[kitsch]

Being "homeless" sounds fun when you are young and sick of living comfortably and looking for adventure....and of course writers like Steinbeck and Kerouac helped to romanticize the lifestyle.

You have to be smart about it though, you might find that after two months of begging or stealing money and food you're sick of being homeless and you just want a warm bath and a nice bed to sleep in, but you've gone and got rid of all your possessions and quit your job and you don't even have enough money to buy proper clothes to go to a job interview.

Then you've screwed yourself over and will look like a douche when you go crawling back to your family and friends for money and shelter.



and if that does happen, it would probably be the most valuable life experience ever.

dude, nobody respects a begger.

this bothers me, and i'll probably sound like some conservative nanny by saying this, but this just really gets me:
-person A has job and education and money (ok, fine)
-person A decides to throw it away for a life without dependencey on materials (ok, fine)
-person A goes out onto the street and gets hungry and needs to find a way to get food (ok, let's see how this can be solved)
-solution 1: person A, while preaching about how life is so much better without the need for a job and money, puts forth the effort to find food, whether it's by cleaning a floor or dishes in a restaurant for one night, or dumpster diving (for day-old food, it's perfectly clean) behind a grocer or bakery (perfectly acceptable and respectable)
-solution 2: while preaching about how life is so much better without the need for a job and money, person A decides to ask person B (random pedestrian) for the money that person B earned at their job, or the food that person B purchased with money from their full time job (this is hypocritical)



and you see this all the time. kids who CHOOSE to be homeless and preach about how they have seen a light and live a life with no materials and they don't depend on money and a job, but yet they DEPEND on the people that have money and jobs to be nice and give them the products that came from the employed capitalist lifestyle that person A rejected.
it gives travelers and homeless a bad name.

a very valid point, and i agree with you. i beg minimally. i steal before i beg. and if i am on the street collecting change, ill be playing a guitar or something.

[thickasabrick]

True happiness can only come from being totally healthy. Trust me.

Self-imposed homelessness is not nearly as spiritually enriching as getting excercise everyday, eating properly, sleeping properly, thinking positively, and maintaining healthy relationships.

If you do all those things, it doesn't matter whether you live in a mansion with thousands of possessions and a demanding career, or if you live in a cave without posessions and meditate all day.


The question is, are you helping society by being homeless? Or is it better to get a well-paying job so you have the resources to actually help out other people in need. I've never seen a hobo survive off of other hobos, eventually everyone turns to the people with wealth and resources.

[Already_Taken]

dude, nobody respects a begger.

this bothers me, and i'll probably sound like some conservative nanny by saying this, but this just really gets me:
-person A has job and education and money (ok, fine)
-person A decides to throw it away for a life without dependencey on materials (ok, fine)
-person A goes out onto the street and gets hungry and needs to find a way to get food (ok, let's see how this can be solved)
-solution 1: person A, while preaching about how life is so much better without the need for a job and money, puts forth the effort to find food, whether it's by cleaning a floor or dishes in a restaurant for one night, or dumpster diving (for day-old food, it's perfectly clean) behind a grocer or bakery (perfectly acceptable and respectable)
-solution 2: while preaching about how life is so much better without the need for a job and money, person A decides to ask person B (random pedestrian) for the money that person B earned at their job, or the food that person B purchased with money from their full time job (this is hypocritical)



and you see this all the time. kids who CHOOSE to be homeless and preach about how they have seen a light and live a life with no materials and they don't depend on money and a job, but yet they DEPEND on the people that have money and jobs to be nice and give them the products that came from the employed capitalist lifestyle that person A rejected.
it gives travelers and homeless a bad name.

okay man, i'm sorry you've misunderstood me. when i said that i was thinking of going into a restaurant, looking hungry, and saying hey boss i'll wash dishes for you tonight if you give me a meal. i never said i'm not going to work. and i've acknowledged the debt that i have against society, but that is my main problem.

i owe this society, but i never agreed to take anything from it in the first place. you see?

and dude, if you have a problem giving a bum a bucket of chicken, then don't. it's simple.

[Klown]

if u read my post ur gay
fffffffff

[wartomods]

me and ma friends last summer sniffing some glue :smoke:

http://svr84.ehostpros.com/~plrds84/images/adc56.jpg

[DBoons Ghost]

Come to NYC in the dead of Winter. I will set you guys up on a nice park bench in Central Park. The next day, I'll come back and see how you guys are doing. If you're not a bumsicle by then, maybe you'll have come to your senses and that will be the end of your idiotic experiment.

Stupid twats.

[Already_Taken]

only an idiot would sleep on a park bench in nyc in the dead of winter, but thanks for the offer, dickhead ;)

[Detective Dan]

lol at a bunch of dumb kids posting about how cool it would be to be homeless from their computers


why the hell would someone want to strive to be homeless that is ****ing stupid

I couch surfed for like 2 months a while back while trying to find a place to stay and that was ****ing awful. you "owe this to society?" you'd be more of burden to society.

[Iskandar]

if you are hungry and care about feeding yourself you can find compassionate people.Wouldn't their charitible efforts be better spend on people who actually need them, ie. they are homeless because of misfortune and not choice.

Though if they decide to give you stuff that's their decision, more power to them.

[kitsch]

society, man

[Already_Taken]

how would i be a burden? i don't want to be a beggar, which is essentially what i've been for the last 20 years.

if i lived in the woods, kept a garden, a hen, and built my own roof, would i be a burden or a blessing. i'm leaving an extra room in your society so one more of you pretentious jerks can have all of your materialistic pleasures like tv and make up and toilets, things i don't give a **** about!

[kitsch]

me and ma friends last summer sniffing some glue :smoke:

http://svr84.ehostpros.com/~plrds84/images/adc56.jpg

which one is you

[Iskandar]

how would i be a burden? i don't want to be a beggar, which is essentially what i've been for the last 20 years.

if i lived in the woods, kept a garden, a hen, and built my own roof, would i be a burden or a blessing. i'm leaving an extra room in your society so one more of you pretentious jerks can have all of your materialistic pleasures like tv and make up and toilets, things i don't give a **** about!You were talking about taking charity from people, weren't you? I just find it illogical to do that when other people need it more.

If you could provide for yourself, though, that'd be great. You can live your life any way you want to.

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

hes schizo
no im not

[Mister_Che]

An experience? Seriously?

Holy hell what a ****ing insult it must be to people who are unfortunate enough to be homeless.

how would i be a burden? i don't want to be a beggar, which is essentially what i've been for the last 20 years.

if i lived in the woods, kept a garden, a hen, and built my own roof, would i be a burden or a blessing. i'm leaving an extra room in your society so one more of you pretentious jerks can have all of your materialistic pleasures like tv and make up and toilets, things i don't give a **** about!

You're going to give a **** about that real quick once you're out there. I wouldn't expect you to last more than one night.

[Already_Taken]

You were talking about taking charity from people, weren't you? I just find it illogical to do that when other people need it more.

If you could provide for yourself, though, that'd be great. You can live your life any way you want to.

just because i accept charity doesn't mean i'd stop giving it. i'm a young healthy able-bodied guy, and also one of the most generous people you'll ever meet.

i find it hilarious that in my first post i point out how homeless people are automatically stigmatized in this country, and sure enough all of these idiots are in here bashing me when clearly they haven't read.

i'm sure it would be hard to cope with the fact that you're dumber than a guy who wants to be homeless with views like dboon. (go cry about losing 270k dollars some more, hoarding that to yourself says a lot about you, earned or not)

[kitsch]

well its def an experience for them too.

[Iskandar]

There is a whole subculture of people who bum around. I guess it could be a fun experience to travel and see stuff and meet new people, even though it might be dangerous at times. You can always return to a sedentary lifestyle if you want to.

[kitsch]

^^thats a large part of what i want to do

[Iskandar]

i'm sure it would be hard to cope with the fact that you're dumber than a guy who wants to be homeless with views like dboon. (go cry about losing 270k dollars some more, hoarding that to yourself says a lot about you, earned or not)Wait I don't get it are you saying I'm dumb or DBoon is dumb or we're both dumb.

[Already_Taken]

he is, mr che is, detective dan etc... so quick to pass judgment. you don't even know me, clearly.

[Iskandar]

I wasn't judging you man I just wanted to clarify what you meant.

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

no im not
at least according to my doctor, to clarify.

[Already_Taken]

i was referring to them again, not you. it's retarded to think anything that i've said in here equates to me wanting to be a city bum, and i'll just assume that these fine gentlemen can't read.

[Mister_Che]

You come off as such an arrogant douche.

"Hey guys, I'm doing better than most people, I own stuff, I'm in school, and I'm probably more generous than you. You think I should toss these awesome opportunities and possessions aside and live like I own nothing just to see what it's all about?"

I didn't assume you were lazy, I just assumed you were an arrogant ****.

[Iskandar]

No he doesn't.
You think I should toss these awesome opportunities and possessions aside and live like I own nothing just to see what it's all about?"
What's wrong with this?
i was referring to them again, not you. it's retarded to think anything that i've said in here equates to me wanting to be a city bum, and i'll just assume that these fine gentlemen can't read.It'd be more like how the Travellers live.

[kitsch]

You come off as such an arrogant douche.

"Hey guys, I'm doing better than most people, I own stuff, I'm in school, and I'm probably more generous than you. You think I should toss these awesome opportunities and possessions aside and live like I own nothing just to see what it's all about?"

I didn't assume you were lazy, I just assumed you were an arrogant ****.

uhh, i dont get why not wanting the possessions he has is arrogant

[Already_Taken]

You come off as such an arrogant douche.

"Hey guys, I'm doing better than most people, I own stuff, I'm in school, and I'm probably more generous than you. You think I should toss these awesome opportunities and possessions aside and live like I own nothing just to see what it's all about?"

I didn't assume you were lazy, I just assumed you were an arrogant ****.

i wasn't asking for anyone's opinion on what i should do with my own life.

i think after reading my views, you've seriously started questioning your own, and deep down that might be what i'm trying to do. i hate this society i live in, i hate that everything we do has a selfish motivation behind it. how can i change it?

sure got a reaction out of you...

[kitsch]

this should be interesting...

[here comes the bird flu]

I'm in college. Doing fine. I have a nice car, nice guitars, a nice computer, a decent apartment, basically I'm doing fine thanks in large part to my parents. But the more I get the more I realize this isn't me. I've actually been thinking about how I wouldn't mind being homeless for a while. If for no reason other than a life experience, and potentially a lifestyle choice.

Beggars have a job in my opinion as well, a tough job at that, which is to make the well-to-do look at the world in a sobering light. Also, in this country, the USA, homeless people are automatically stigmatized as lazy bums, and it would be funny for me to laugh at all the people who try to pity me, as I'd go hungry before I accepted their "charity" which was laced with judgment.

I'm looking for an honest man... anyone else?
yeah, beggars have a job. The hours are long and the pay is well below minimum wage.

[Gattsu347]

i Wish the entire world would be homeless and we had to fight for a home and half the population got killed off. that would be getting somewhere.

oh and no guns allowed.

[Huxton]

because there's more important things in life than having a home and possessions?
ergo in order to obtain them you have to be homeless

hey bro yr smart

[Huxton]

but ok sure be homeless you'd probably earn more than you do in your current job you worthless filth

[808]

How old are you, Already Taken?

[Murdererer]

dude, i gotta admit, im with you on this.

im almost 19, a senior in high school and have already spent a fair amount of time homeless. i come from a rather affluent family, but my parents dont give me money, and i honestly dont want it. ive been beaten and thrown out of my house numerous times, usually for drugs or "disrespect". (i once took too long in the bathroom in the morning and was being overtly "selfish")

this last time i was kicked out of my house for smoking pot. haha. i found this tunnel underneath the interstate and it opened up into a sort of drainage shute, but it wasnt being used. i easily surmised that it was a local skate spot, the shute was perfect for skating and it was covered with graffiti and litter, etc. the surrounding area even had a campfire pit. i ended up living there for a week.

i plan on spending a large portion of my life homeless, bumming around the country. ive got connections in a few places that will let me stay there. im going to san diego for three months this summer, then off to denver. transportation is no problem, as greyhound has this companion pass thing were you and one other person can travel around the country, get off anywhere and get back on for one year and its only like 400-500 bucks.

if you decide to do anything like this man, keep posting in the internet cafes/libraries and i might see you on the road.

"practice charity without holding in mind any conceptions about charity, for charity after all is just a word"

lol you are so gay

[GorgeousGabe]

Actually, Kitcsh, you sound pretty much awesome. I highly respect that kind of a lifestyle- living with minimal commercial consumption, just using what is already there to survive. you mother****ers could learn a thing or two

I've spent a little bit of time homeless. About half a week I squatted, I've spent more than a few weeks sleeping at my friends' places and living on the streets

If you have an acoustic guitar, it makes your job a lot easier, and you will likely meet a lot of interesting people as well

[Turkish]

This post, this entire thread is just confusing. I keep reading that you're not romanticizing the thought of being homeless, but that's all I get when I continue to read.

or make the entire world your backyard

and to answer your second question, 808. self-fulfillment.

Tell me that isn't making it sound greater than it is?

And after college, you're going to give away your possessions, strap a guitar to your back and set out?

I can respect the idea that you're uncomfortable with you're current lifestyle. I gather that you feel like life is too easy and you want to see what you're capable of. But I can tell you from experience that being in that situation is not fun. I've never been homeless but I've lived in poverty, being hungry and not having a lot of possesions. It's not fun, and there's nothing great about it.

If you really want to feel like a contributing member of society. Why not join the peace corps, go to another country and invest your time in humanitarian work rather than going from town to town living out this idealized vision of life you have?

[Murdererer]

being homeless isn't cool but have fun living in a cardboard box gabe

[Detective Dan]

how would i be a burden? i don't want to be a beggar, which is essentially what i've been for the last 20 years.

if i lived in the woods, kept a garden, a hen, and built my own roof, would i be a burden or a blessing. i'm leaving an extra room in your society so one more of you pretentious jerks can have all of your materialistic pleasures like tv and make up and toilets, things i don't give a **** about!

okay I admittedly didn't read the thread but what you are talking about here isn't really being homeless.


EDIT: also the stuff that Turkish said

[GorgeousGabe]

oh I am settled, I am comfortable, I have enough money to live. I would hope that if I had to live in a cardboard box that I would indeed have fun. If you HAVE to live in a box, like it or not, then you might as well like it...? That seems to make plenty of sense

I'm taking 2 or more weeks off this summer to live in the wilderness with a couple of friends, hiking in the mountains, I really do love to live without any possessions beyond what's necessary at the moment

[Murdererer]

the thing is gaybe you don't have anything in a box. go sit in a dark closet with no electicity for 5 hours and tell me how you like it; then imagine living like that forever

[Huxton]

but girls think you're cool if you live in a box

[GorgeousGabe]

But I'm telling you... I have lived on the bare minimum before, and there is definitely something to be said for it. I've lived for a month miles away from civilization in the mountains with just a tent, a stove and some other kids, and I'm going back to do it again. I've spent three weeks bumming about with nothing but the clothes on my back, living with friends, living in squats, just surviving on the streets.

You said 'have fun living in a cardboard box'

In my opinion, you have reached basically the pinnacle of human success if you can have fun living in a cardboard box.

[kitsch]

gabe, youre an awesome dude.

[Huxton]

In my opinion, you have reached basically the pinnacle of human success if you can have fun living in a cardboard box.or you're retarded lets go with that

[GorgeousGabe]

my point of view is that success isn't measured by how much **** you own or how much **** has had to be torn down to support your (ultimately cosmically pointless) life.

my point of view is that success is measured by how happy you live your life, and if you can do that in a cardboard box without having to buy any **** that was manufactured through other people's exploitation, without having to work a job that supports a world economic structure that's gonna tear the world apart, without spending money that'll ultimately make its way to a bullet in a soldier's gun on the other side of the world... then more power to you

[Huxton]

hey

hey

your point of view is dumb

[GorgeousGabe]

hahaha nice that was really enlightened my friend, I'm really inclined to let you convince me that my lifestyle and life philosophies are dumb (even though I have a blast living) because you've explained yourself so eloquently and sensibly

[kitsch]

its so sad... the trolls dont even put forth any effort anymore.

gabe, i pretty much agree with you on all accounts

[GorgeousGabe]

Yeah man people are just really afraid of like... leaving all the stuff that they've acquired behind.

Ultimately, you even have to leave your life behind. That's the only thing you'll really have as long as you're around. It's better to focus on improving your life, your mind, your body, instead of improving the things that you have in your life

[Huxton]

itt 9th grade philosophy

[Murdererer]

gaybe & kitsch sitting in a box k-i-s-s-i-n-g

first comes dirt

then comes grime

then comes gay sex and unwed marriage

[GorgeousGabe]

sounds like a party to me

(I like girls)

[Murdererer]

u like boys what

[GorgeousGabe]

: ( oh yeah, thanks, you reminded me

[JohnXDoe]

many homeless are mentally ill. thats a fact. many are on drugs and alcoholics. thats a fact. those two facts don't discount the one that many other people are those things and not homeless. its a sad sad thing. i don't believe them to be lazy bums. not in America. that would be foolish

others these days are products of the bad economy

for many who are single i don't understand it. i would think if you are alone (like i am) even if you are sick or on drugs your could find a place to live. but i suppose its beyond many for w/e reason

i have compassion for the homeless and will always give food or some change to help. those who come up to me and ask for change cuz they "missed a bus" or their "car broke down" when you can see they're addicts, can take a hike

[FattyKnee]

gypsies are the homeless of europe.

[sweboy]

"many homeless are mentally ill. thats a fact. "

- JohnXDoe, 2009

[JohnXDoe]

my first sweboy quote of 2009

i am tearing up :'(

[GorgeousGabe]

Well in NYC that's because in the 70's (or 80's...? I think 80's) a lot of live-in mental patients were released from hospitals cuz the state deemed it 'unethical' to keep them. So they put them in projects, gave them jobs, and since they were mentally ill and couldn't maintain their lives...? they end up on the streets, yeah

[asdf]

I've been thinking about this every day for four years.

[kitsch]

o rly?

any thoughts worth sharing come out of 4 years of rumination?

[asdf]

Absolutely not.

[Murdererer]

one day rory will be living with me in my 20 room mansion and we will drive by kitshits box and throw a big gulp at him

[asdf]

And then I will kill myself violently.

[Jay Link]

And then I will kill myself violently.



Gee Rory, that's a little harsh huh?:eek:

[Murdererer]

from the shame of throwing a big gulp at kitshit

[kitsch]

cause im a nice guy

he wouldnt be able to handle the torment

[asdf]

She.

And yes, that's it.

And yeah, that was harsh.

I couldn't possibly ever feel comfortable living in a mansion.

[Murdererer]

one room is the replica of the who wants to be a millionaire gameshow room its amazing

[kitsch]

well this thread made it 6 pages before it went down the shitter at least

[Already_Taken]

This post, this entire thread is just confusing. I keep reading that you're not romanticizing the thought of being homeless, but that's all I get when I continue to read.



Tell me that isn't making it sound greater than it is?

greater than it is to you. just because your opinion doesn't match mine doesn't mean either of us is wrong.

And after college, you're going to give away your possessions, strap a guitar to your back and set out?

I can respect the idea that you're uncomfortable with you're current lifestyle. I gather that you feel like life is too easy and you want to see what you're capable of.

i don't need to prove anything to myself.

But I can tell you from experience that being in that situation is not fun. I've never been homeless but I've lived in poverty, being hungry and not having a lot of possesions. It's not fun, and there's nothing great about it.
i lived the first 8 years of my life in poverty, hungry, while my mom was at work and my dad was in another state being an alcoholic. now she has the means to give me anything i want and because she's a mom she feels she's obligated to, but that doesn't matter to me, but i would never tell her all her hard work was in vain.

If you really want to feel like a contributing member of society. Why not join the peace corps, go to another country and invest your time in humanitarian work rather than going from town to town living out this idealized vision of life you have?
because i have criminal charges so i can't join the peace corps, god bless america

[808]

She.

And yes, that's it.

And yeah, that was harsh.

I couldn't possibly ever feel comfortable living in a mansion.

Are you too punk for a mansion?

[Murdererer]

me and rorys kids could look really good if they got all the right traits

i want our daughter matilda to have her hair; and our son to have my hair

[808]

It's too bad you're never going to have kids.

[Murdererer]

yea i am doofus

[808]

People find you repulsive.

[Murdererer]

im pretty good looking im told im not black

[808]

Whoever told you that was lying.

[asdf]

Are you too punk for a mansion?
no, but I have a preference in my living situation being modest. And I don't see why there's anything wrong with that.

[GorgeousGabe]

Don't kill yourself, you've got so much to give!

[Murdererer]

Whoever told you that was lying.

im a good looking guy thats just the way it is

[808]

Living in a mansion is modest for some people.

[kitsch]

If you really want to feel like a contributing member of society. Why not join the peace corps, go to another country and invest your time in humanitarian work rather than going from town to town living out this idealized vision of life you have?

ive actually thought about this and will strongly consider it in the future, maybe after a few years of drifting. esp if obama does what he said he would and equates time in the peace corps to time in the army and then gives you college tuition and shi. that would be awesome.

[Murdererer]

living in a dirt and mud is modest in africa

[808]

Well, none of us live in Africa.

[Murdererer]

i bet someone does

[808]

I've been told that superpeer is actually from Burkina Faso.

[Already_Taken]

Living in a mansion is modest for some people.

the only way i could live in a mansion is if i built it myself, and housed 20 people in it.

i'm 20, btw

[Murdererer]

id let 20 bunnys live in it

[808]

The only way I could live in a mansion is if I were the only person living in it.

No, I'd want my maids and **** to live there, too.

[Mr. Ron]

I'm in college. Doing fine. I have a nice car, nice guitars, a nice computer, a decent apartment, basically I'm doing fine thanks in large part to my parents. But the more I get the more I realize this isn't me. I've actually been thinking about how I wouldn't mind being homeless for a while. If for no reason other than a life experience, and potentially a lifestyle choice.

Beggars have a job in my opinion as well, a tough job at that, which is to make the well-to-do look at the world in a sobering light. Also, in this country, the USA, homeless people are automatically stigmatized as lazy bums, and it would be funny for me to laugh at all the people who try to pity me, as I'd go hungry before I accepted their "charity" which was laced with judgment.

I'm looking for an honest man... anyone else?
you're an idiot

[Murdererer]

i got a new computer i need new rory pix plz

[GorgeousGabe]

what a... waste that would be

[808]

If you don't like it, stay the **** out.

[Already_Taken]

you're an idiot

why?

[808]

Because you want to be homeless. That's dumb.

[Already_Taken]

who says we're entitled to a home anyways? millions, maybe billions on this planet don't have a "home". what makes me so special? i didn't do anything for this.

[Mr. Ron]

why?
because you can be fulfilled without being homeless. Maybe if you were actually in poverty or really homeless you'd see why its such a terrible thing idk

[Murdererer]

go live in a shelter then

[Mr. Ron]

who says we're entitled to a home anyways? millions, maybe billions on this planet don't have a "home". what makes me so special? i didn't do anything for this.
you're not special


no one is special

[Jay Link]

Well, as long as I pay the bank my $1500 per month mortgage, I have a home, but some months that is getting very hard to do.

[808]

who says we're entitled to a home anyways? millions, maybe billions on this planet don't have a "home". what makes me so special? i didn't do anything for this.

LoL!

[Murdererer]

sell your body

[Jay Link]

sell your body

Great that brings me in another $1.00 per month $1499 to go..:p

[Mr. Ron]

you're also taking a pretty serious problem for a lot of people and making it a fun little hobby or something

[Huxton]

guys becoming filthy rich and donating a ton to charity helps way more than joining the peace corps you stupid ****ing faggots

[Already_Taken]

because you can be fulfilled without being homeless. Maybe if you were actually in poverty or really homeless you'd see why its such a terrible thing idk

yeah you said it best, you don't know. just because you like nice shiny things and those are fulfilling to you doesn't mean they are to me. they are a sign of superfluity and waste to me, and the fact that people actually get off on these things in such a way sickens me to a degree.

you can be fulfilled without being homeless, and good for you.

[Murdererer]

if someone wants to be homeless why not just go camping? at least you can have fun that way....

[Mr. Ron]

lol peace corps


is that were yuppies and christian college students go to some impoverished African Country, snaps photos, give them med kits and leave after a few days?

[Mr. Ron]

yeah you said it best, you don't know. just because you like nice shiny things and those are fulfilling to you doesn't mean they are to me. they are a sign of superfluity and waste to me, and the fact that people actually get off on these things in such a way sickens me to a degree.

you can be fulfilled without being homeless, and good for you.
lol what

I'm not materialistic if thats what you're implying. You're acting like you're some sage hermit or some garbage.


lol wait, do you think the only way to be fulfilled if you're not homeless is through material things?

[GorgeousGabe]

you're also taking a pretty serious problem for a lot of people and making it a fun little hobby or something

so what? are you saying he should feel guilty about feeling that way?

working as a lawyer or a doctor would be like a prison sentence to me, but that is some people's livelihood, dream and passion. it's the same difference.

[Jay Link]

Mr. Ron is correct. I was working as a volunteer at a local food bank around Christmas and met a lady here in Kingman, who had been on the street 10 years. She was in her 50's nice looking and seemingly educated, so I asked her why she was on the streets so long. She said it was just a lifestyle and you get used to it and it's hard to get back off the streets after so many years. sad.

[GorgeousGabe]

I don't think the point is that you can be fulfilled without being homeless. I think the point is that you can be fulfilled and also be homeless

[Mr. Ron]

so what? are you saying he should feel guilty about feeling that way?

working as a lawyer or a doctor would be like a prison sentence to me, but that is some people's livelihood, dream and passion. it's the same difference.
Yes

was that a serious Q or

[Murdererer]

Mr. Ron is correct. I was working as a volunteer at a local food bank around Christmas and met a lady here in Kingman, who had been on the street 10 years. She was in her 50's nice looking and seemingly educated, so I asked her why she was on the streets so long. She said it was just a lifestyle and you get used to it and it's hard to get back off the streets after so many years. sad.

i used to volunteer at food bank packing 100's of boxes for the needy

[808]

I'm going to write about these fags in the "Kids these days" thread.

[kitsch]

yay... notoriety

[Huxton]

money cant buy you happiness guys

just stability and comfort and generally unlimited free time to seek the happiness you supposedly cant buy

[asdf]

Living in a mansion is modest for some people.

Yes but for me it would be a major step up in our society, considering my background.

And I should not say that I could never live comfortably in a mansion. It would probably take me years, and I would have to rework my entire day to day and my values, but I could become comfortable with it. The fact of the matter is, I do not want strive to be comfortable with an exorbitant amount of wealth. It doesn't interest me, it's not in my future, and I don't need to make these changes.

Stumbling into extreme wealth and being homeless are both huge changes that will effect day to day life and personal values.

[Already_Taken]

money buys problems.

[Mr. Ron]

money buys problems.
only if you're retarded handling it.

[Already_Taken]

i'm a finance major. i have too much money and i'm not comfortable with it. how is this point going over your head?

[Mr. Ron]

i'm a finance major. i have too much money and i'm not comfortable with it. how is this point going over your head?
yeah that evil money got you into college, something countless people will never experience BURN IT ALL.

Send your money to me, I have loans to pay off.

[asdf]

The kids in this thread that may want to live as hobos may be overly romanticizing something that can be and often is quite difficult and tragic, but I would say most of western society romanticizes the "american dream" ideals of bigger, faster, more stuff now.

[Already_Taken]

get to work you lazy piece of ****

asdf, the difficulty would be welcome in this life, trust me. i don't deserve this. and i laugh at all the people who think they're entitled to it.

[Mr. Ron]

The kids in this thread that may want to live as hobos may be overly romanticizing something that can and often is be quite difficult and tragic, but I would say most of western society romanticizes the "american dream" ideals of bigger, faster, more stuff now.
well yeah thats what is destroying the west

[Murdererer]

babe you're so cute when u talk like that

[Mr. Ron]

get to work you lazy piece of ****
I have two jobs, and I'm a full time student, and I'm doing my student observation hours



wait why aren't you dumpster diving yet

[GorgeousGabe]

The fact of the matter is, I do not want strive to be comfortable with an exorbitant amount of wealth. It doesn't interest me, it's not in my future, and I don't need to make these changes.

Stumbling into extreme wealth and being homeless are both huge changes that will effect day to day life and personal values.

There you have it.

I am so happy with what I have- a small apartment that I share with two close friends, my band, my music, my friends... I don't buy a whole lot besides what I need to live. I cook rice, and I have friends whose parents have basically taken me in who help me get by from day to day because they love me

I'm very very very appreciative that I don't need to grind day in day out in order to make ends meet, but... when it comes down to it, I would rather live in a dump with nothing of my own just living day to day, than work 8 hours a day at a job that drives me insane just to make money to buy me things that I don't need or particularly want

[Murdererer]

i thought it was called ends meat

[GorgeousGabe]

I don't want to live as a hobo- I said that there's something to be said for it, not that it's my preferred lifestyle. I said more power to you if you can make more of less. Me? I like to have a roof over my head, but the things that have ultimately proven to be most important, as corny as it sounds, have been my friends and my music

[Mr. Ron]

There you have it.

I am so happy with what I have- a small apartment that I share with two close friends, my band, my music, my friends... I don't buy a whole lot besides what I need to live. I cook rice, and I have friends whose parents have basically taken me in who help me get by from day to day because they love me

I'm very very very appreciative that I don't need to grind day in day out in order to make ends meet, but... when it comes down to it, I would rather live in a dump with nothing of my own just living day to day, than work 8 hours a day at a job that drives me insane just to make money to buy me things that I don't need or particularly want
millions of people in poverty called they want to slap you in the face

[GorgeousGabe]

ends meet. like make two ends meet each other. I dunno, that's what I thought. ends meat? meat from whose end? not yours I hope

[Murdererer]

lol like pig butt

[Already_Taken]

There you have it.

I am so happy with what I have- a small apartment that I share with two close friends, my band, my music, my friends... I don't buy a whole lot besides what I need to live. I cook rice, and I have friends whose parents have basically taken me in who help me get by from day to day because they love me

I'm very very very appreciative that I don't need to grind day in day out in order to make ends meet, but... when it comes down to it, I would rather live in a dump with nothing of my own just living day to day, than work 8 hours a day at a job that drives me insane just to make money to buy me things that I don't need or particularly want

the only way i'll ever get stuck doing that is if i have a kid. god forbid

[GorgeousGabe]

Hey man, I live in NYC. I see people who have money. They aren't any happier than the people who DON'T have money here.

[Already_Taken]

millions of people in poverty called they want to slap you in the face

you are so dumb, you are completely missing the point. you are so dumb. you are completely missing the point. let me emphasize this. you are so dumb, you are completely missing the point.

poor families are closer than rich ones, because each other is all they have. rich families breed drug addicts and dysfunctionality (made that word up).

[Huxton]

i'm a finance major. i have too much money and i'm not comfortable with it. how is this point going over your head?wtf last week you were whining about not making enough as a waiter i think you should stop making stuff up when you probably make $5/hour

[Mr. Ron]

Hey man, I live in NYC. I see people who have money. They aren't any happier than the people who DON'T have money here.
except you can't prove that




I can tell you guys have never had to really live in impoverished/very poor conditions. You guys would run right back to your mommies and daddies if you did. Its absolutely stupid to want to live in squalor.

[GorgeousGabe]

That's funny that that's an insult in your mind. That's called classism. There are millions of people who make $5/hour who want to slap you in the face (?_?)

[Murdererer]

regis philman is happy

http://i7.tinypic.com/34dpri1.jpg

[Mr. Ron]

you are so dumb, you are completely missing the point. you are so dumb. you are completely missing the point. let me emphasize this. you are so dumb, you are completely missing the point.

poor families are closer than rich ones, because each other is all they have. rich families breed drug addicts and dysfunctionality (made that word up).

here let me give you some of your own advice after that juicy generalization:

you are so dumb, you are completely missing the point.

[Already_Taken]

wtf last week you were whining about not making enough as a waiter i think you should stop making stuff up when you probably make $5/hour

i'm in college, if i can't make rent, which i rarely can, my mom pays because she is the reason i'm here. don't be so retarded and if you actually care about me, at least learn to read what i write.

[GorgeousGabe]

I don't live with my mommies and daddies. I grew up without a dad. I live in poverty right now, today. The only difference between me and a hobo is that I have good friends

[Murdererer]

and u have a home and a computer gaybe; the homeless have nothing

[eliminaturd]

sup i am also an affluent idealistic white brat lets go sit by a trash can and talk and ****

[Huxton]

i'm in college, if i can't make rent, which i rarely can, my mom pays because she is the reason i'm here. don't be so retarded and if you actually care about me, at least learn to read what i write.
ok reading

i have too much money
if i can't make rent, which i rarely can
i have too much money
if i can't make rent, which i rarely can
i have too much money
if i can't make rent, which i rarely can
i have too much money
if i can't make rent, which i rarely can

[Mr. Ron]

i'm in college, if i can't make rent, which i rarely can, my mom pays because she is the reason i'm here. don't be so retarded and if you actually care about me, at least learn to read what i write.
wait why don't you just go homeless then you coward

[GorgeousGabe]

and u have a home and a computer gaybe; the homeless have nothing

OK... ? ? ? but I live in poverty. I live on 900 dollars a month. what do you call that? oh yeah. poverty

[Mr. Ron]

I don't live with my mommies and daddies. I grew up without a dad. I live in poverty right now, today. The only difference between me and a hobo is that I have good friends
you having a computer tells me you do not live in real poverty.

[Already_Taken]

because all my mom wants is for me to finish college, and i owe her that in the least

mr. ron you are so stupid man. i honestly feel like you probably have an IQ of about 85.

[Murdererer]

$900 more than a hobo

[eliminaturd]

man i have to sleep in my lexus its like i cant get a break on these tough streets

[GorgeousGabe]

you having a computer tells me you do not live in real poverty.

you're a dumbass. a computer costs less than 1k... most people who live in poverty can afford such 'luxuries'

[Huxton]

i sleep on a bed of cash

[Mr. Ron]

because all my mom wants is for me to finish college, and i owe her that in the least
oh ok you'll become a homeless martyr after you wasted all of your mom's money and break her heart when you become willingly homeless


you dumb piece of garbage

[Jay Link]

I made over $300,000 last year, and I'm broke. Go Figure

[Huxton]

you're a dumbass. a computer costs less than 1k... most people who live in poverty can afford such 'luxuries'you live in such poverty that you can afford the monthly expense of internet without struggling for food or warmth

[Mr. Ron]

you're a dumbass. a computer costs less than 1k... most people who live in poverty can afford such 'luxuries'
no see I don't think you know what real poverty is. People that are truly impoverished hardly have standing homes if any

[eliminaturd]

gabe is obv trolling

[Huxton]

but i shop at gap show me some sympathy

[GorgeousGabe]

I mean like I said, yeah, I have a lot of advantages and I'm very appreciative of them all. I don't have a difficult life. I don't have to struggle to get by. I'm not claiming that at all- but I live on very little, and that means that I live in poverty.

my point is that, it's not like I live in a mansion with my parents who cook me breakfast lunch and dinner and clean my dirty diapers every day. you're saying 'you don't know what it's like you don't know what it's like'

yeah so what. I don't know what it's like to be a millionaire either. I'm comfortable with what I have... and I respect anyone who wants to make the decision to live on less

[-Guitarded-]

I'd say go for it. Me being someone who almost completely despises society and pretty much everything we stand for. I'm not a huge fan of the 9 - 5 job, buying materials, and indirectly being told to shut up and chew on it.

This would be the next best thing to going into the middle of a forest and making a life there. But thanks to boundaries and private property I don't think you'd be able to get away with it.

Like someone else said though, don't beg others for money as you'll still be dependent on the same system as they are.

[Mr. Ron]

Instead of being homeless, buy a piece of land in the country, learn how to raise crops, and start a farm. Seriously. Being self sufficient in the country would probably way more fulfilling than bumming around a city wondering if a wild tranny is going to stick a sharpened pork chop bone in your neck while you sleep.

[Huxton]

**** its community college teen revolucion all over the place

[Already_Taken]

oh ok you'll become a homeless martyr after you wasted all of your mom's money and break her heart when you become willingly homeless


you dumb piece of garbage

its a service to humanity what i will do. and you don't know me dude, had my mom not had children she'd probably feel the same. i talk to her all the time about it. i didn't say i was going to be a bum and mooch forever, i said i was going to live without the everyday BS that americans think they need but is in reality superfluous. i don't want your sympathy. i don't want your money. i don't want your judgment.

i'm a dumb piece of garbage, but at least i know how to read.

[Huxton]

i hope you die it will be good for society

[Already_Taken]

thanks man

you are all idiots. i never said i was going to stop working. i never want to be a city beggar. refer to my original post where i mention the stigmatization homeless people in this country automatically receive. you all fit right into that generalization, and it's quite hilarious how you choose to blatantly ignore anything i say while convincing yourselves what you think i said.

[Mr. Ron]

its a service to humanity what i will do. and you don't know me dude, had my mom not had children she'd probably feel the same. i talk to her all the time about it. i didn't say i was going to be a bum and mooch forever, i said i was going to live without the everyday BS that americans think they need but is in reality superfluous. i don't want your sympathy. i don't want your money. i don't want your judgment.

i'm a dumb piece of garbage, but at least i know how to read.
but seriously

if you had any balls you'd tell your mom to stop paying for your college, and actually DO THIS. But you won't. This is just a fantasy of yours. You're just hurting your mom if you plan on finishing college for absolutely no reason at all.


I'm all for living off the grid and rejecting idiotic American materialism, however at least do something productive like what I suggest above.

[Anglachel]

ron probly one of the smartest people on mx seriously

taken and gabe are gay

[mattspurplepen]

my parents still do my laundry for me and buy me groceries/pay for college and car/ support me playing music, it rocks. I don't really see why you'd wanna lose everything purposefully- sounds selfish to me, why wouldn't you just work to help poor people or help yourself and then help poor people. I plan to give back a fair amount even though it won't really be enough.

[14CAPITALLETTERS]

i plan on going homeless this summer for 1-2 weeks and busking with a friend. i bought a mummy sleeping bag for a 100 bucks, its what some bums i talked to use. and i got a space blanket for 10 bucks that retains 80% body heat. its going to fun but i gotta get used to not showering

and if i cant make money im going back home **** that but i plan on making it

[Huxton]

I'm all for living off the grid and rejecting idiotic American materialismhey **** you communist scum stop hating america

[Anglachel]

you guys should all go homeless together and start a folkpunk band

[Mr. Ron]

hey **** you communist scum stop hating america
I lurve America


I just hate a lot of it's people and parts of it's culture :(

[14CAPITALLETTERS]

all cultures are pretty fuking stupid thats the nature of the beast

[Mr. Ron]

all cultures are pretty fuking stupid thats the nature of the beast
I think some have merit over others

[Already_Taken]

this article may explain my ideals better.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diogenes_of_Sinope

mr. ron i'm not being a coward, i don't even want to be in college. "i never let school interfere with my education". i'm in college because that's all my mom wants from me how many times do i have to say this? she's not wasting her money, she's paying for what she wants.

[GorgeousGabe]

Instead of being homeless, buy a piece of land in the country, learn how to raise crops, and start a farm. Seriously. Being self sufficient in the country would probably way more fulfilling than bumming around a city wondering if a wild tranny is going to stick a sharpened pork chop bone in your neck while you sleep.

wow... you actually had something constructive to say

[Jay Link]

Huxton and the Homeless Hobos, appearing on your lawn this Saturday night..lol

[Anglachel]

this article may explain my ideals better.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diogenes_of_Sinope

mr. ron i'm not being a coward, i don't even want to be in college. "i never let school interfere with my education". i'm in college because that's all my mom wants from me how many times do i have to say this? she's not wasting her money, she's paying for what she wants.
so you're basically your moms bitch

[14CAPITALLETTERS]

I think some have merit over others

then i say the middle eastern misogynistic theocratic cum fuks are the lowest of the low

[GorgeousGabe]

Hey let's all start a commune

[Already_Taken]

so you're basically your moms bitch

i feel indebted to her, yes. you don't to yours? i'm sure she'd be pleased to know that

[Mr. Ron]

this article may explain my ideals better.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diogenes_of_Sinope

mr. ron i'm not being a coward, i don't even want to be in college. "i never let school interfere with my education". i'm in college because that's all my mom wants from me how many times do i have to say this? she's not wasting her money, she's paying for what she wants.
you don't see how dumb that is?

[GorgeousGabe]

.....neither do I...

I didn't go to college. I painted houses and got an apartment and decided to play music. my mother gave me money to go to college and I didn't use it because it's what she wanted, not what I wanted. so now I use that money to get by, I work when I need to, and I use my opportunity to focus on my dream

[Already_Taken]

you don't see how dumb that is?

i'll always have a college degree. how's that dumb? you're dumb for assuming i'm never going to work. THIS JUST IN. YOU CAN HAVE A JOB AND BE HOMELESS


:confused:

[Mr. Ron]

i'll always have a college degree. how's that dumb? you're dumb for assuming i'm never going to work. THIS JUST IN. YOU CAN HAVE A JOB AND BE HOMELESS


:confused:
you do know that most employers look at your living situation right

[Already_Taken]

yeah at least i don't spend my days hacking internet forums to ruin such a menial part of a few thousand's lives.

yeah mr. ron, well if i can make someone some money i bet they won't care where i live. god bless america right? granted i don't plan on having a 9-5 for a looong time

[Anglachel]

because being smelly and raggety totally makes people want to hire you

****ing idiot

[14CAPITALLETTERS]

you don't see how dumb that is?
hes prolly not getting a dgree entirely cuz of his mom, its probably socioeconomic as well.

[Mr. Ron]

yo I love all you guys but sometimes you can be tootyfrooties is all i'm sayin

[GorgeousGabe]

I'm sure most of us in this nation are glad that you are not calling the shots, huxton

[mattspurplepen]

somebody just saw the movie into the wild!

[GorgeousGabe]

yeah at least i don't spend my days hacking internet forums to ruin such a menial part of a few thousand's lives.

yeah mr. ron, well if i can make someone some money i bet they won't care where i live. god bless america right? granted i don't plan on having a 9-5 for a looong time

more importantly, if you can learn how to be happy being homeless, then you don't even need a great job : )

[Anglachel]

because if anyone with a brain ran the usa half you****ers woulda been shot by now


and suddenly america became intelligent

and notfat

[Mr. Ron]

homelessness rulz until -10 degree weather comes then homes rul LOL

[Already_Taken]

more importantly, if you can learn how to be happy being homeless, then you don't even need a great job : )

just trying to put this into terms these dolts can understand. however they're too caught up in the nothingness that is our american dream to care. :thumb:

[808]

Yes but for me it would be a major step up in our society, considering my background.

And I should not say that I could never live comfortably in a mansion. It would probably take me years, and I would have to rework my entire day to day and my values, but I could become comfortable with it. The fact of the matter is, I do not want strive to be comfortable with an exorbitant amount of wealth. It doesn't interest me, it's not in my future, and I don't need to make these changes.

Stumbling into extreme wealth and being homeless are both huge changes that will effect day to day life and personal values.

See, my goal in life is to make lots and lots of cash and live in a big house.

[Anglachel]

just trying to put this into terms these dolts can understand. however they're too caught up in the nothingness that is our american dream to care. :thumb:
id think better of you if you went and made yourself homeless

but refusing to because of all these poopty excuses makes you a gigantic large bundle of sticks
diaf - fire in your college tbe

[GorgeousGabe]

yeah if you want to be homeless, move to california where it's nice and warm and you don't have to worry about the frigid *** winters

[Mr. Ron]

I'm pretty sure Northern California gets snowfall