Obama to allow CIA to continue secret renditions

[thunderzstruck]

WASHINGTON — The CIA's secret prisons are being shuttered. Harsh interrogation techniques are off-limits. And Guantanamo Bay will eventually go back to being a wind-swept naval base on the southeastern corner of Cuba.

But even while dismantling these discredited programs, President Barack Obama left an equally controversial counterterrorism tool intact.

Under executive orders issued by Obama last week, the CIA still has authority to carry out what are known as renditions, or the secret abductions and transfers of prisoners to countries that cooperate with the U.S.

Current and former U.S. intelligence officials said the rendition program is poised to play an expanded role because it is the main remaining mechanism—aside from Predator missile strikes—for taking suspected terrorists off the street.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-renditions_31jan31,0,2998929.story

Not something I really wanted to hear... Hopefully something will be done to change the program. I hope this doesn't go unnoticed either

[Already_Taken]

well we're still at war. unfortunately we can't just beg our enemies for peace, but taking the high road only leaves us open to any form of attack.

like if you're about to fight someone and you both have swords, and ur like "dude this isn't a good idea, let's just drop the swords and fight with our fists" but you really pissed the other guy off, so you dropping your sword is basically suicide cause the other guy's mad.

[Swill_Merchant]

well we're still at war. unfortunately we can't just beg our enemies for peace, but taking the high road only leaves us open to any form of attack.

like if you're about to fight someone and you both have swords, and ur like "dude this isn't a good idea, let's just drop the swords and fight with our fists" but you really pissed the other guy off, so you dropping your sword is basically suicide cause the other guy's mad.

I have no clue about what you are saying.

[JohnXDoe]

this is good news. i like the fact the CIA can still be the CIA in some circumstances. might even get a little waterboarding in here and there

gg

[1338 h4x0r]

Obama is a secret Muslim, pass it on

[hismajestythepope]

obama is secretly mccain, pass it on
Not something I really wanted to hear... Hopefully something will be done to change the program. I hope this doesn't go unnoticed either

yeah ugh let them terrorists try to control things through violence they deserve the right !!!!!!!

[Knifeboy]

Obama is a secret Pilgrim, pass it on

[hismajestythepope]

Obama is the anti-Christ, fyi.

[1338 h4x0r]

yeah ugh let them terrorists try to control things through violence they deserve the right !!!!!!!

That's ... glib

[Light Fantastic]

obama is pretty much mccain americans just wanted to feel good about themselves by voting for a black guy

[1338 h4x0r]

lol

He isn't McCain, but he isn't a liberal either, for better or worse

[Iscariot]

He's a brotha.

[Knifeboy]

the danish word for ****** is also a synonym for ghost writer in danish
fun fact

[spitfirejunky]

That's pretty funny actually.

[1338 h4x0r]

I'm so glad I taught myself to become literate in Swedish; that had a lot of value as I can now read three languages.

Also, lol @ 'neger'

[Light Fantastic]

you mean you can read one worthwhile and two useless ones

[1338 h4x0r]

What makes Danish and Norwegian 'useless'?

Heil Møller-Mærsk, undisputed Führer of international container shipping

[Iscariot]

The only useful language is English. 72 countries in the world contain English speaking citizens.

[1338 h4x0r]

Yes but if you learn another language despite speaking the world's de facto lingua franca natively, it makes women who speak that other language damp.

[Iscariot]

According to Manswers, Swedish women are easy and love American men, so I don't need to learn another language to make foreign ladies wet.

[1338 h4x0r]

That's ... half-true.

I heard they're all blond and named 'Inga' too.

...

I'd like to go back in time and **** Hervor, then go forward in time to the present day to meet my descendant, who will probably be a mild-mannered hydroelectric dam engineer.

[Light Fantastic]

What makes Danish and Norwegian 'useless'?

well what do you use it for

http://74.125.77.113/translate_c?hl=en&sl=da&tl=en&u=http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghostwriter&prev=_t&usg=ALkJrhgRAOfFXtKKkc1uU8rGhnTmlv1V8w

[1338 h4x0r]

True, but Google Translate won't always be there for you, plus immediate or near-immediate comprehension is more satisfying than an iffy automated translation

Plus, if you know the language in earnest, it becomes possible to read archaic texts, or at least get the gist of them. Google Translate can't touch dis

http://www.heimskringla.no/svensk/aakerblom/voluspa.php

"Garm [16], the very
at Gnipahålan.
Fettered rupture,
free running Ulven [17]."

:lol:

Also knowing how to use Google Translate doesn't impress women tbh

[Light Fantastic]

Google Translate won't always be there for younot really it pretty much will

Also knowing how to use Google Translate doesn't impress women tbhthere are things which would greater impress women that you could have spent your time learning

[1338 h4x0r]

not really it pretty much will

This is equivalent to saying "Why learn math? We have calculators now."

there are things which would greater impress women that you could have spent your time learning

You underestimate the effects of being a wordsmith

[Light Fantastic]

This is equivalent to saying "Why learn math? We have calculators now."no its not because one is about availability and the other is about ability

and even if we werent the investment of time in relation to benefit isnt similar

You underestimate the effects of being a wordsmith
you could have made mad bank on the stock market i think that would have worked better

[1338 h4x0r]

And attract gold diggers? ew

[Futue te Ipsum]

hey, when you're bald, fat and 50 having sex with a limber 18 year old beauty just because you bought her ear rings for what is to you a negligable amount... you wont complain

[1338 h4x0r]

My genetic background makes it unlikely I will go bald plus I have a hard time keeping weight on

As it stands I weigh 57 kg despite having access to a buffet everyday

[rasputin]

I think having another language or languages, no matter what they are, is a benefit to you.

[1338 h4x0r]

Charlemagne said that being multilingual was like having multiple souls.

I used to speak Dioula until I got run over by a truck. True story.

[Knifeboy]

The only useful language is English.

except if you wanna go to asia and want to do more than rudimentary communication with the public


**** asia

[1338 h4x0r]

except if you wanna go to asia and want to do more than rudimentary communication with the public


**** asia

I hope those asterisks spell 'Heil'.

[siva_chair]

Not something I really wanted to hear... Hopefully something will be done to change the program. I hope this doesn't go unnoticed either

Rest assured it will.

These kinds of things are only wrong and evil if there is a Republican in the white house, you know.

[1338 h4x0r]

The National Weather Service once mistakenly issued a Volcano Warning in response to siva_chair flushing his toilet.

[Knifeboy]

I hope those asterisks spell 'Heil'.

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/thumb/9/98/Sieg_heil_asian.jpg/180px-Sieg_heil_asian.jpg

[1338 h4x0r]

I was going to post something from that Akasi spread lol

This one's more disturbing tbh

http://www.netnewsasia.com/images/stories/Akasi_tiger_hunk.jpg

She's clinging to a plastic Heinz Guderian dummy

[McP3000]

Rest assured it will.

These kinds of things are only wrong and evil if there is a Republican in the white house, you know.
lol

edit: talk about massive thread hijack

[1338 h4x0r]

...and yet it's only here in the US that Michelle Malkin could get away with referring to Obama's wife as his quote "baby mama".

If I were him, I'd give that little bitch a black eye.

[McP3000]

...and yet it's only here in the US that Michelle Malkin could get away with referring to Obama's wife as his quote "baby mama".

If I were him, I'd give that little bitch a black eye.
for some reason that last sentence sounded sexual

[1338 h4x0r]

Sorry I meant to say "if I were Obama, I'd sodomize that little bitch and give her a black eye in slamming her face against the bedpost."

You don't go around calling someone's spouse "baby mama" out of spite; my God, Michelle Malkin is such a bitch!

[Already_Taken]

lol itt chad argued that knowing any language other than english is useless. that takes idiocy to a new level

[DBoons Ghost]

How off topic this thread has become.

[Light Fantastic]

lol itt chad argued that knowing any language other than english is useless. that takes idiocy to a new level

have you ever read your posts in this forum

[Against Miik!]

Back on topic

according to this, and only this article

http://www.harpers.org/archive/2009/02/hbc-90004326

this thread is false

[hismajestythepope]

lol itt chad argued that knowing any language other than english is useless. that takes idiocy to a new level

everyone was dead serious and ratatat isn't boring hipster music

[Already_Taken]

have you ever read your posts in this forum

yeah i think that while i may not add depth to a number of subjects, as i don't have the time to write sagas for the reward of pleasing a few idiots, i try to add insight with views that are not being discussed, even if they are not necessarily my own.

saying that learning languages other than english is a waste of time that could be spent on other things is an opinion, albeit a pretentious and ethnocentric one. i mean hacking other people's websites they've worked hard for is definitely a better use of time than learning another language. :rolleyes: (and you still use the website you piece of ****)

ratatat just gets me man, and sometimes i don't like my music to be totally immersing because then i can't multi-task as i'm completely caught up in the music.

[Iskandar]

It misses the difference between the renditions program, which has been around since the Bush 41 Administration at least (and arguably in some form even in the Reagan Administration) and the extraordinary renditions program which was introduced by Bush 43 and clearly shut down under an executive order issued by President Obama in his first week.

There are two fundamental distinctions between the programs. The extraordinary renditions program involved the operation of long-term detention facilities either by the CIA or by a cooperating host government together with the CIA, in which prisoners were held outside of the criminal justice system and otherwise unaccountable under law for extended periods of time. A central feature of this program was rendition to torture, namely that the prisoner was turned over to cooperating foreign governments with the full understanding that those governments would apply techniques that even the Bush Administration considers to be torture. This practice is a felony under current U.S. law, but was made a centerpiece of Bush counterterrorism policy.Oh thnap.

[Light Fantastic]

Iskandar can you ban already_taken as some kind of pnwi eugenics thing

it will be your first worthy action

[Iskandar]

Nope. He hasn't broken any rules.

Also everyone in the world wants to talk to ignorant foreigners in English and not their native language. Lol.

[Already_Taken]

yes as my objectivity is putting a severe hampering on light fantastic's ability to think he's not retarded

[Iskandar]

it will be your first worthy actionThat was permabanning VF.

Anyway back to the topic the LA Times article appears to be a load of crap and the Administration already signed an order to stop the extraordinary rendition program. Heil.

[Knifeboy]

That was permabanning VF.

Anyway back to the topic the LA Times article appears to be a load of crap and the Administration already signed an order to stop the extraordinary rendition program. Heil.

[/thread close]?

[Mr. Ron]

I was going to post something from that Akasi spread lol

This one's more disturbing tbh

http://www.netnewsasia.com/images/stories/Akasi_tiger_hunk.jpg

She's clinging to a plastic Heinz Guderian dummy
I lost it

[1338 h4x0r]

My dick is Sieg Heiling

[Mr. Ron]

if only she was embracing a Hans Ulrich-Rudel dummy. That would be amazing

[1338 h4x0r]

Personally I'd like to see her hanging off Vidkun Quisling

With Quisling having that "I'm slightly constipated" look on his face

[Light Fantastic]

Nope. He hasn't broken any rules.well what rules did vf break that you can objectively say already taken isnt

[Iskandar]

He was being extremely racist and sexist for one thing.

[Knifeboy]

you had a chance to kill this thread.. Your inactions will harm us all!

[Iskandar]

The rule is that if three people request I close a thread I will.

[Already_Taken]

well what rules did vf break that you can objectively say already taken isnt

is hacking the website and costing the owner a bunch of money against the rules? i mean... jus wonderin

close it

[Knifeboy]

The rule is that if three people request I close a thread I will.

like you'll ever find 3 people who agrees on something on here

[Iskandar]

That's two.

[Light Fantastic]

He was being extremely racist and sexist for one thing.so what you're saying is his political opinions offended you so you banned him

[Iskandar]

He was breaking the rules. Stop trying to troll me.

[Light Fantastic]

well you can alter the rules at will so they arent really a good justification of anything

[McP3000]

lol i love how you can make both iskandar and VF look intolerant

[Iskandar]

I don't though. They have never been altered.

Besides which VF was really banned for disrupting discussion around here. People started spending more time trolling him than talking to each other about something interesting.
lol i love how you can make both iskandar and VF look intolerantYou're hanging on by a thread, mister.

[McP3000]

haha, ok im done.

oh and close this. its going nowhere

[Iskandar]

Deal.