The Inaguration Of The 44TH President Of The United States

[JohnXDoe3]

Just wanted to get a little thread started for any final thoughts or comments concerning the new President Of The United States, Barack Obama.

As for myself I really have no high hopes or expectations of great change. But I am hoping for a somewhat different way of doing business in Washington and around the world with our enemies and allies alike. Healthcare, foreign policy, energy program to be less dependent on foreign oil, education, infrastructure, and of course shoring up the economic "crisis." For all these things, I wish him the best of luck.

In a bigger picture sense i would like this to be the beginning of the end of our racial divisions and strife in our country. Politically and socially. I was discussing race (black people and culture) with some friends (Republicans) the other night, and the conversation became quite spirited. On one side were those who believe black Americans should just "get over it" and that history, apparently, counts for nothing. The other side (my lonely side :( ) was of the opinion that history takes time to become history, and the ghettos, poverty, sometimes violent culture and somewhat depressed nature of some black communities will be what my friends would like it to be (a non issue) not when the individual rises up, but when black children are born not to people who remember the civil rights movement, racial injustice, and grew up with grandparents who had grandparents who were slaves, but who will grow up further removed from that past. And under parents who were able to take part in an America which gave them opportunity and hope to look forward to, rather then a bitter and violent past of persecution to look back on.

So in the end, that is my greatest hope of "change" I have for my country by electing a black man to the highest office in not just the land, but arguably the world . That history will continue to become history, and a new and better history for many Americans will continue to be written. On our way to a more "perfect union" not by pushing and shoving and dividing, but by a simple vote which put a new face on American leadership and power for generations to come. And for black Americans a sense of "yes we can" to take into the future instead of the "no we can't" attitude some have instilled in them today.

Anyway, best of luck to President Barack Obama in the years to come. He and the nation and the world could use some of that right now. And I wish him much success.


So, final thoughts, comments, opinions, observations, hopes, dreams for the future? Put them here. Its ok not to be cynical. What do you think a successful Obama Presidency looks like?

Or if you're a cynical tool, a less then successful one? :p

[BlisteryNixon]

****in bitch is raising taxes on my cigarettes

he should be tried for treason and expatriated so he can go back to kenya with bongo raila or whatever the **** his cousin's name is

oh and send his illegal immigrant aunt the **** back too

[siva_chair]

A successful Obama presidency will be one that finally exposes to everyone the economic disaster socialist and collectivist policies really are and we can finally bury this hangover from the New Deal we are still suffering from.


Either way, I hope the guy keeps on smoking cigs (it's about time we had a smoker back in the white house) and ends the disastrous war on drugs. Those are the two positive things I see coming out of his presidency.

[siva_chair]

****in bitch is raising taxes on my cigarettes

he should be tried for treason and expatriated so he can go back to kenya with bongo raila or whatever the **** his cousin's name is

oh and send his illegal immigrant aunt the **** back too

Now now, you know what they say: if you don't have something nice to say about someone......



....then you are probably thinking of Hillary Clinton.

[JohnXDoe3]

A successful Obama presidency will be one that finally exposes to everyone the economic disaster socialist and collectivist policies really are and we can finally bury this hangover from the New Deal we are still suffering from.


Either way, I hope the guy keeps on smoking cigs (it's about time we had a smoker back in the white house) and ends the disastrous war on drugs. Those are the two positive things I see coming out of his presidency.
i too would like to see him take steps, even if gradual, to end the War On Drugs

now Siva, this might mean more government spending on programs to offset the effects of the transition and help those who are addicted, but it will be well worth it in the end

[siva_chair]

i too would like to see him take steps, even if gradual, to end the War On Drugs

now Siva, this might mean more government spending on programs to offset the effects of the transition and help those who are addicted, but it will be well worth it in the end

Which would bankrupt our country even more. I don't see why the ending of the war on drugs requires the government to spend more money. In fact, they should be saving money by doing so (freeing up prisons, cutting down on law enforcement/judiciary costs, etc).

The only thing is, DEA agents will just have to resort to catching actual criminals, or they will be out of the job.

[mph4ever]

i hope he stops the war on terror and also the support for israel and also starts to genuinely particpate at the united nations and put the interests of the planet at the centre instead of those of america

this really should have been in the lsd thread

[siva_chair]

i hope he stops the war on terror

Not going to happen. He is dedicated to increasing troops in Afghanistan.

and also the support for israel

Also not going to happen. Look at who his chief of staff is.

and also starts to genuinely particpate at the united nations and put the interests of the planet at the centre instead of those of america

I hope not. The UN is a retarded organization.

this really should have been in the lsd thread

Yes, probably.
:chug:

[mph4ever]

Not going to happen. He is dedicated to increasing troops in Afghanistan.



Also not going to happen. Look at who his chief of staff is.



I hope not. The UN is a retarded organization.



Yes, probably.
:chug:

you've dashed my hopes, what hope have i left

[Jude]

I'm real on the fence about him but I'm leaving for DC in about an hour and a half cause I don't want to have to tell my kids I didn't go

[siva_chair]

I'm sure your kids are really going to be disappointed.

[gregulus]

I'm sure your kids are really going to be disappointed.

"OMG dad how could you? I don't want to be your kid anymore. I'm taking my ball and going home."

[McP3000]

why would you want to go tot he actual inauguration. it'll be boring as hell and you wont even be able to see him with so many other ****ing people trying to get a small peak.

[siva_chair]

Plus where are you going to take a dump if you need to?

It's going to smell like ****.

[McP3000]

someone needs to hand out free deodorant

[AA-12]

i'd love to go to the inauguration but sadly i'm in Florida :(

[Der Übermensch]

ahh. ****ing tourists!!! Don't stand on the left side of the escalator!!!

[mph4ever]

surprised they haven't got escalator marshalls on duty

[Der Übermensch]

I'm just trying to avoid the metro as much as possible this week.

[mph4ever]

you're going to the main event tomorrow, right?

whats it like there now? on tv it looks like the place is just swamped with security

[Der Übermensch]

Yeah, as long as the weather is ok. I'm walking though.

Going to a ball in the evening regardless though.

I walked down to the capital around midnight last night and it was pretty empty, but a lot of the security walls are already up, but unmanned. I imagine by tonight that will have changed.

[mph4ever]

i'd say they are heading into the toughest 24 hours in civilian security history. you can only wish them well

[Against Miik!]

Rumor has it the inauguration ceremony will cost $170 million. Sweet recession.

[Shell]

My grandma thinks Obama is the smartest man to ever exist. :confused:

[PunkItUp]

well he is a pretty sharp dude

sounds like grams has a bit of jungle fever 'tho

might want to check that family tree a little closer....

[Shell]

I saw on Good Morning America or something this morning where they were showing what Obama has been doing the past few days and he was making some speech and they were interviewing people about how far we've come regarding racism and segregation and such. And then there was a choir singing that was composed of BLACK CHILDREN ONLY. :confused:

[PunkItUp]

well thats ok i'm sure you can find LOTS of choirs composed of WHITE BRATS ONLY

[McP3000]

I saw on Good Morning America or something this morning where they were showing what Obama has been doing the past few days and he was making some speech and they were interviewing people about how far we've come regarding racism and segregation and such. And then there was a choir singing that was composed of BLACK CHILDREN ONLY. :confused:
yeah thats pretty lol
well thats ok i'm sure you can find LOTS of choirs composed of WHITE BRATS ONLY
yeah but theres also far many more white people than black people in the states. randomly selecting an all black choir is much statistically smaller and points towards them purposefully selecting it based on race.

not that i care

[Iskandar]

Maybe because it's an important event for black people in the United States?

[Angmar]

Yeah I don't see what's wrong with that tbh.

My CAD teacher is gonna be playing this during class, as is my gov teacher, awesome.

[siva_chair]

Maybe because it's an important event for black people in the United States?

I thought the idea was it was supposed to be an important event for all Americans?

I think the point is that despite all this rhetoric about coming far in terms of racial equality and integration, we still very much think in terms of race. It goes both ways, too.

[Shell]

Maybe because it's an important event for black people in the United States?

so they can't let the whiteys be in their choir? :(

also since you're a mod now, you should fix the title

[BlisteryNixon]

so they can't let the whiteys be in their choir? :(

also since you're a mod now, you should fix the title

Yeah he's actually the 43rd president.

[Iskandar]

I thought the idea was it was supposed to be an important event for all Americans?

I think the point is that despite all this rhetoric about coming far in terms of racial equality and integration, we still very much think in terms of race. It goes both ways, too.It is. But it's especially important for blacks for obvious reasons.

[siva_chair]

It is. But it's especially important for blacks for obvious reasons.

I don't see that as a legitimate reason to perpetrate the racial divide.

Granted, I can't really blame him for the choir thing. If I were being sworn in as president, I would have an all black choir, but that is because they usually sound more badass than white ones. :smash:

[BlisteryNixon]

It is. But it's especially important for blacks for obvious reasons.

The blacks already have Oprah, one of the richest women in the world (black or white) to teach them that anyone can make it if they apply themselves. Why do they need a president? Nothing is going to change until they recognize they have to work to succeed.

[Iskandar]

He's not the black president, he's everyone's president. He happens to be black. If you don't see why a black president would be a role model for black people everywhere I don't know what to say to you.

[BlisteryNixon]

He's not the black president, he's everyone's president. He happens to be black. If you don't see why a black president would be a role model for black people everywhere I don't know what to say to you.

Colin Powell was a role model. Condoleeza was a role model. Clarence Thomas was a role model. Still blacks fawn over the idiots who play football and criticize the true role models as "filthy Republicans". Most of the blacks I have talked to are so ignorant of politics, they all vote Democrat when their views are largely conservative!

Then they talk about those "damn racist republicans!" "George Bush doesn't care about black people" when Nagin had far more to do with the failure during Katrina than Bush ever did and the so called "racist Republicans" freed their enslaved asses in 1865 when the Southern Democrats waged a war over slavery.

They should be stripped of citizenship, all SS benefits and medicaid cut off, and sent packing since they have no more sense or decency to be a good American citizen. Their language is divisive and their actions pose a threat to the white man everywhere.

Send them back to their AIDS-ridden continent.

[Iskandar]

Okay, you're getting racist again. Strike two.

[Shell]

what? he gets three strikes? that's some ****

[BlisteryNixon]

Okay, you're getting racist again. Strike two.

Nothing racist about it. Tell me what is.

[Iskandar]

"Send them back to their AIDS-riddled continent."

[BlisteryNixon]

"Send them back to their AIDS-riddled continent."

There's nothing racist at all about it. The blacks are known to rape white women, they are known to terrorize white families, bully white children in school, they are known to drop out of school and college, to sell drugs, be involved in organized criminal activity and prostitution at a far higher rate than whites.

And then they have the audacity to say, "Well your ancestors took us away from Africa and made us slaves in America." Then go the **** back if you don't want to be here!

[AA-12]

Maybe because it's an important event for black people in the United States?

it's seriously beyond me how people can't realize this

[BlisteryNixon]

it's seriously beyond me how people can't realize this

This is a loss to all Americans of any color. Obama is a communist and his first act in office is to raise taxes going against everything he said on the campaign trail.

Clarence Thomas is a role model to blacks. They need to shut up. He has been on the Supreme Court since the 80's and they still haven't got a clue how much more power he holds than this Obama.

[AA-12]

lmao

[Iskandar]

Sorry, VF, but making generalizations about an entire group of people, especially generalizations of the type you are making, is racist. I am warning you. This is your last chance.

[BlisteryNixon]

Sorry, VF, but making generalizations about an entire group of people, especially generalizations of the type you are making, is racist. I am warning you. This is your last chance.

I didn't make any god damn generalizations you **** sucking bitch.

[AA-12]

here comes tha banhamma

[Angmar]

lol dude maybe you should read your posts they're nothing but racist generalizations.

[BlisteryNixon]

lol dude maybe you should read your posts they're nothing but racist generalizations.

No I said blacks are more likely to be drug dealers than whites, and more likely to be involved in organized criminal activity.

[Aaron]

haha. this is going to be pleasing to see.

[AA-12]

i'm actually laughing pretty hard at that last comment now

[Iskandar]

Insulting a moderator? Brilliant. Your goose is cooked, VF.

[JohnXDoe3]

No I said blacks are more likely to be drug dealers than whites, and more likely to be involved in organized criminal activity.
yeah and whites are more likely to have meth labs set up in their houses and break into pharmacies for oxycontin

you're talking out your arse

[BlisteryNixon]

Insulting a moderator? Brilliant. Your goose is cooked, VF.

Shut up. You continue to make accusations against me when I ask you repeatedly not to. You do not know how angry I am right now. But you will all see one day.

And no before you accuse me of making threats I am not going to kill anyone or even slap, molest, shank, rape, stab, behead, or any of that.

[Iskandar]

Can't forget white-collar crime, as well.

[AA-12]

Shut up. You continue to make accusations against me when I ask you repeatedly not to. You do not know how angry I am right now. But you will all see one day.

quoting this because online threats are actually illegal now. that was a bad move.

[spitfirejunky]

Shut up. You continue to make accusations against me when I ask you repeatedly not to. You do not know how angry I am right now. But you will all see one day.

And no before you accuse me of making threats I am not going to kill anyone or even slap, molest, shank, rape, stab, behead, or any of that.

!!! :lol::lol::lol:

[Iskandar]

Okay guys, stop talking about VF. I put in a ban request for him.

[JohnXDoe3]

Okay guys, stop talking about VF. I put in a ban request for him.
Iskander you should have ban powers. what good is modding pnwi without them?

you are a reasonable fair minded person. it only makes sense for this forum

[JohnXDoe3]

VF stop being so stupid. i'm disappointed in you. you're just trolling the thread and not even doing a good job of it

[Iskandar]

Maybe I will someday. For now, it's enough that I can delete his garbage.

[Linkinbassist]

I can't wait for this. Although, this all has hauntings of Kennedy about it. I don't know why, it just...does.

[mph4ever]

I can't wait for this. Although, this all has hauntings of Kennedy about it. I don't know why, it just...does.

i think everyone on the planet has that feeling, not good

[siva_chair]

This event has the hauntings of pomp and circumstance about it to me. Royalism ftw!

The poorer we are, the more money we throw at the crowning ceremony. All hail the chief!

:smoke:

[JohnXDoe3]

oh Siva...

*shakes head*

c'mon man its nothing like that. take part and heart in America's celebration. if just for one day...get with reality. this is happening. its not a dream or a wish or an idea, but something real

smile Siva :)

[siva_chair]

Sorry, I simply don't buy into this cult of Obama.

And I don't think that spending $160 million+ on a ceremony of pomp and circumstance when our country is facing a financial crisis is all that wise or admirable.

I hope the guy surprises me and does good, I really do. But I'm not going to fool myself into such wishful thinking. I'll smile when people wake up.

[Linkinbassist]

y'know, $160m is a drop in the ocean in the states. Look at the defense budget, you could pool loose change from that and that would pay for the inauguration ten times over.

[mph4ever]

Sorry, I simply don't buy into this cult of Obama.

And I don't think that spending $160 million+ on a ceremony of pomp and circumstance when our country is facing a financial crisis is all that wise or admirable.

I hope the guy surprises me and does good, I really do. But I'm not going to fool myself into such wishful thinking. I'll smile when people wake up.

its private money, obama's spend is like $2m. are you suggesting that the party makers can't spend their money how they like. this could be the masters or the superbowl for all the government money that might be spent

[AA-12]

yeah, 160m is nothing. sure it'd be better for all that money to go into a better program but come on, let's be realistic.

[Mister_Che]

The actual cost is in the neighborhood of $45 million. The other hundred comes from security costs. By comparison, Bush spent $42 million last time he was inaugurated.

[siva_chair]

y'know, $160m is a drop in the ocean in the states. Look at the defense budget, you could pool loose change from that and that would pay for the inauguration ten times over.

So the hell what? The point is Washington is throwing some huge extravagant party at the taxpayers expense.

its private money, obama's spend is like $2m. are you suggesting that the party makers can't spend their money how they like. this could be the masters or the superbowl for all the government money that might be spent

No it isn't private money. The shindig is expected to cost about $160 million, and Obama only raised about $40 million to cover various events. The rest is on the shoulders of the taxpayers.

The actual cost is in the neighborhood of $45 million. The other hundred comes from security costs. By comparison, Bush spent $42 million last time he was inaugurated.

No, the actual cost is $160 million+. You don't get to leave out security and transportation, particularly when those are the things the taxpayer gets to pay for, anyway.

Bush also wasn't in the middle of the economic fiasco we are in right now in 05. Not only that, but Democrats seem to have a short memory, because they were bitching really loudly when Bush spent that much, now they haven't made a peep. Hmm....

Unemployment is up and stocks are down, so let's throw an expensive party!

[mph4ever]

No it isn't private money. The shindig is expected to cost about $160 million, and Obama only raised about $40 million to cover various events. The rest is on the shoulders of the taxpayers.



$40 million: the estimated cost of the inaugural parade, balls, opening ceremonies, giant television screens on the mall and other expenses for the presidential inaugural committee.


the actual cost associated with him being sworn in is only $2 million. and all that $40 million is private money that he raised. the taxpayers money is being spent because so many of them wanted to attend. why didn't they just stay at home and donate to resolving poverty in the american ghettoes online

[siva_chair]

the actual cost associated with him being sworn in is only $2 million. and all that $40 million is private money that he raised. the taxpayers money is being spent because so many of them wanted to attend. why didn't they just stay at home and donate to resolving poverty in the american ghettoes online

Obama's inaugural committee has raised more than $41 million to cover events ranging from a Philadelphia-to-Washington train ride to a megastar concert with Beyonce, U2 and Bruce Springsteen to 10 official inaugural balls. Add to that the massive costs of security and transportation — costs absorbed by U.S. taxpayers — and the historic inauguration will produce an equally historic bill.

Hmmm....

(and that is one of the most conservative estimates. The other estimate I read said about $170 million).

[Mister_Che]

No, the actual cost is $160 million+. You don't get to leave out security and transportation, particularly when those are the things the taxpayer gets to pay for, anyway.

So then without leaving out security and such spent in '05, Bush spent $150 million.

Unemployment is up and stocks are down, so let's throw an expensive party!

And what the **** do you think all that money is for? Security for (from?) 1.2 million people showing up. That is unprecedented. Bush should've scaled back his spending too, since he was being inaugurated in the middle of a war.

Stop acting like it's a waste. A major chunk of that money is being spent to insure safety.

[JohnXDoe3]

well i'm a U.S. taxpayer and i approve of this parrrrrty! :smoke:

[mph4ever]

Obama's inaugural committee has raised more than $41 million to cover events ranging from a Philadelphia-to-Washington train ride to a megastar concert with Beyonce, U2 and Bruce Springsteen to 10 official inaugural balls. Add to that the massive costs of security and transportation — costs absorbed by U.S. taxpayers — and the historic inauguration will produce an equally historic bill.

only in america, the land of the free

anyway, come on siva, let your hair down, we are about to have president barry hussein sworn in with his african amercian wife beside him. michelle obama, the first african american to sleep in the presidential bed. (unless you think dubya was porking condi for a while) think of the peace and reassurance this will bring to the palestinians and the africans and iraqis and afghanis and all the stanees and everyone all over the world. its a time for change, its a time for peace and love and popcorn and hotdogs and stuff. get on board and enjoy it, you know you want to.....

[Mister_Che]

That's nonsense think about the money. >:{

[JohnXDoe3]

only in america, the land of the free

anyway, come on siva, let your hair down, we are about to have president barry hussein sworn in with his african amercian wife beside him. michelle obama, the first african american to sleep in the presidential bed. (unless you think dubya was porking condi for a while) think of the peace and reassurance this will bring to the palestinians and the africans and iraqis and afghanis and all the stanees and everyone all over the world. its a time for change, its a time for peace and love and popcorn and hotdogs and stuff. get on board and enjoy it, you know you want to.....
you know i was just gonna post something like that

if ever in your neck of the woods Siva we'll hang out, drink some beers, go to a strip club, and fire off some guns at 3:00am on deserted city streets

it'll be :cool:

let freedom ring and all that....

[siva_chair]

So then without leaving out security and such spent in '05, Bush spent $150 million.

Yes, and that was too much too. Democrats didn't hesitate to hold back on that point. Now they are silent.


And what the **** do you think all that money is for? Security for (from?) 1.2 million people showing up. That is unprecedented. Bush should've scaled back his spending too, since he was being inaugurated in the middle of a war.

Stop acting like it's a waste. A major chunk of that money is being spent to insure safety.

It is a waste. It is unnecessary to have such pomp and circumstance. We aren't a monarchy. Jefferson even made the same observation.

Hell, Wilson (who was a dick) did not even have any parties at his 1917 inaugural. He said that such festivities would be undignified considering we were at war.

well i'm a U.S. taxpayer and i approve of this parrrrrty! :smoke:

Then you can donate to the cause, security and all. But you have no right to steal from those that do not approve to fund your little celebration.

only in america, the land of the free

anyway, come on siva, let your hair down, we are about to have president barry hussein sworn in with his african amercian wife beside him. michelle obama, the first african american to sleep in the presidential bed. (unless you think dubya was porking condi for a while) think of the peace and reassurance this will bring to the palestinians and the africans and iraqis and afghanis and all the stanees and everyone all over the world. its a time for change, its a time for peace and love and popcorn and hotdogs and stuff. get on board and enjoy it, you know you want to.....

No thanks, don't care much for cults.

One of us! One of us!

[siva_chair]

you know i was just gonna post something like that

if ever in your neck of the woods Siva we'll hang out, drink some beers, go to a strip club, and fire off some guns at 3:00am on deserted city streets

it'll be :cool:

let freedom ring and all that....

And I would happily share that experience with you, but I'm not going to call for taxpayers to pay for our booze, broads, or bullets....:thumb:

[mph4ever]

No thanks, don't care much for cunts.

*fixed

One of us! One of us!
who?

[Linkinbassist]

Either way, bitching about the cash flow of the inauguration won't stop it going ahead.

I'm well excited!

[siva_chair]

*fixed

Well yeah I'm sure Hilary Clinton will be there.

who?

One of the Obaticons.

I refuse to buy into Obamatron's populist movement. :D

[Linkinbassist]

Oh god. The BBC just got reports from AFP and Reuters about a secret service probe into a threat to the inauguration.

I really hope it's nothing, i really do.

[Iskandar]

George W. Bush is finally gone.

Long have we waited for this day.

[siva_chair]

Jan 20th: the day we replace one Demagogue with another.

[mph4ever]

Well yeah I'm sure Hilary Clinton will be there.

hahaha can't wait until she brings her unique form of negotiation to the middle east. her and blair and bill, it'll be just like old times

One of the Obaticons.

I refuse to buy into Obamatron's populist movement. :D
no more than i would expect

[Iskandar]

I plan to wait and see if he follows through on his promises to close Guantánamo and end Iraq. If he did these things quickly that would greatly boost my confidence in him.

[Chrysostom]

I'm just glad that we Europeans finally get to deal with someone who can string a sentence together.

[siva_chair]

Omg guys I think he just walked on the water of the reflecting pool! Now we're getting to the part where he does that thing with the five loaves and two fishes.

[Mister_Che]

The whole cult of personality was done to death with Steve and it doesn't sound any less retarded when you do it.

[mph4ever]

Omg guys I think he just walked on the water of the reflecting pool! Now we're getting to the part where he does that thing with the five loaves and two fishes.

send him to africa quick, they need that sort of skill set there presently

[Already_Taken]

it's easy for some to overlook the historic implications that this day has.

[Iskandar]

The whole cult of personality was done to death with Steve and it doesn't sound any less retarded when you do it.Didn't you know Obama is the modern-day Chairman Mao? He's totally going to launch a cult of personality and govern by decree.

[Shell]

I think its exciting.

What a freakin crowd.

[Shell]

Oh and they're starting off with a prayer.

[siva_chair]

The whole cult of personality was done to death with Steve and it doesn't sound any less retarded when you do it.

Steve actually had a valid point with that. It is pretty clear that there is a cult of personality developing around the guy.

So you'll excuse me if I don't feel the same desire to worship God Emperor Baracktrack Hussein of House Obama.

[Jamais_Vu]

As he was walking down I was imagining the song Gangsta's Paradise going on in the background, "As I walk through the valley of the shadow of death
I take a look at my life and realize there's not much left
coz I've been blastin and laughin so long, that
even my mama thinks that my mind is gone..."

[Dimmu Burger]

This is very religious.

[AA-12]

**** off rick warren

oh and aretha is awesome :D

[Dimmu Burger]

Aretha aint getting any younger.

[Iskandar]

I don't know why they got Yitzhak Perlman and Yo-Yo Ma. It's not like we elected the first Jewish Chinese president.

[Dimmu Burger]

lol

Obama and Biden got sick of turning around to watch.

[JohnXDoe3]

Steve actually had a valid point with that. It is pretty clear that there is a cult of personality developing around the guy.

So you'll excuse me if I don't feel the same desire to worship God Emperor Baracktrack Hussein of House Obama.
yes, god forbid we should have a popular president a lot of people actually like and who seems to care about the people of the nation he leads in return

onoes could be the anti christ :rolleyes:

[Dimmu Burger]

yes, god forbid we should have a popular president a lot people actually like and who seems to care about the people of the nation he leads in return

onoes could be the anti christ :rolleyes:

lol

[Dimmu Burger]

dude he effed that up pretty bad!

[Shell]

Lol he messed up.

I'd be nervous as hell though.

[AA-12]

god, he's so nervous :(

that said, HE'S OFFICIALLY THE PRESIDENT!

actually he has been since the 20th rolled around but yeah, it's totally in the books now.

[fingers mccoy]

I don't know why they got Yitzhak Perlman and Yo-Yo Ma. It's not like we elected the first Jewish Chinese president.

lol or ET the music was pretty ****ing naff

[JohnXDoe3]

i'm not watching cuz i'm doing other stuff atm. like preparing pizza sauce and shi...

however i do have it on dvr and will be transferring key moments to my computer later via my tv tuner card

then i can watch and WORSHIP forever my via my hard drive :D

[JohnXDoe3]

god, he's so nervous :(

that said, HE'S OFFICIALLY THE PRESIDENT!

actually he has been since the 20th rolled around but yeah, it's totally in the books now.
yeah i saw those nerves when he walked out of the church this morning. the weight of the world looked as if it had been dropped on his shoulders. he looked different coming out then he did going in

[siva_chair]

yes, god forbid we should have a popular president a lot of people actually like and who seems to care about the people of the nation he leads in return

onoes could be the anti christ :rolleyes:

It isn't that he is popular, it is that the large number of fanatical followers (most of which haven't the faintest idea about the repercussions of his proposed policies) that have sprung up act as though he can do absolutely no wrong. They think everything is going to change and be glorious and that he is the best leader we've ever had. It amounts to man worshipping through and through.

[Mr. Ron]

I do have to say, all of the 20-something college students that trip over themselves to suck Obama off are incredibly annoying.

[JohnXDoe3]

oh well they'll all sober up quickly very soon. and learn that life is not a bowl of cherries no matter who is in office

[Mr. Ron]

he'll do what advisers/intelligence people and other important people that are left over from the Bush administration tells him to, really. Once he enters a briefing room he's pretty much subordinate to people in the know.

[siva_chair]

I do have to say, all of the 20-something college students that trip over themselves to suck Obama off are incredibly annoying.

Exactly. And it isn't even the 20-something crowd. There are plenty of older folks that do the same thing.

[siva_chair]

he'll do what advisers/intelligence people and other important people that are left over from the Bush administration tells him to, really. Once he enters a briefing room he's pretty much subordinate to people in the know.

Plus he hired a bunch of Clintonians.

[fingers mccoy]

oh god this ****ing poem

[Mr. Ron]

I'm not bothering to watch it. I just caught a bit of that terrible poem though when I went up to my kitchen to get some cereal. Ugh.

[fingers mccoy]

'on the brink, the brim, the cusp...'

'darning the shirt, repairing the uniform, patching the tire...'

'this love that casts a widening pool of light...'

**** this ****

[fingers mccoy]

oh but this next guy saves it

'when brown can stick around,
when yellow can be mellow,
when red can get ahead,
and when white will do what's right'

[Mr. Ron]

wow, missed that one

[Shell]

i thought that was cute.

[Jamais_Vu]

That guy is my new best friend.

[DBoons Ghost]

I think they were pointing the cannons the wrong way.

Well, with any hope the best thing that comes out of this is we can vacation in Cuba.

That would be nice.

[Black Ink]

Omg guys I think he just walked on the water of the reflecting pool!

Actually it is frozen over so he could....

[Mr. Ron]

that would be funny

[Against Miik!]

Well that was very anticlimactic.

I have to do a little write up on his speech, picking out times where he took a trustee role vs a delegate role, times when he showed courage vs times when he showed compromise, if he defined an "we" and a "they", and who those are, and good vs bad rhetoric.

I have to watch it again because I wasn't really paying attention.

and not to be cruel but Cheney in the wheelchair is lol. Kind if fitting I guess

[siva_chair]

It was a pretty well spoken and presented speech.

[Mr. Ron]

did anyone sort of smile when the saw Cheney in the wheelchair? He sort of looked like a fatter Emperor Palpatine.

[Jamais_Vu]

I think Biden looks a little bit more like Emperor Palpatine.

[siva_chair]

No the Pope looks like Emperor Palpatine, tbh.

Both Cheney and Biden just look like old white sleezeballs.

[Against Miik!]

Biden reminds me of that one uncle who will hit on his nephews girlfriend at family gatherings.

[Mr. Ron]

http://i41.tinypic.com/2mnfwic.jpg

[Permanent Solution]

oh but this next guy saves it

'when brown can stick around,
when yellow can be mellow,
when red can get ahead,
and when white will do what's right'

That was the best line I heard this morning.

[siva_chair]

Biden reminds me of that one uncle who will hit on his nephews girlfriend at family gatherings.

And talk them to death.

[Mr. Ron]

That was the best line I heard this morning.
you know FOX news will have a field day with that

[mph4ever]

I think they were pointing the cannons the wrong way.

Well, with any hope the best thing that comes out of this is we can vacation in Cuba.

That would be nice.


now thats a real cool hope. and maybe he'll reverse the wet foot policy so the pigs don't have to swim

[JohnXDoe3]

Biden reminds me of that one uncle who will hit on his nephews girlfriend at family gatherings.
did you see his wife? short red skirt and knee high leather boots :)

anyway he reminds me of a guy who wants to sell me a used caddy with a wink and a smile
you know FOX news will have a field day with that
FOX has news? since when?

[Against Miik!]

anyway he reminds me of a guy who wants to sell me a used caddy with a wink and a smile

Well he kind of just did, in a way, didn't he?

[JohnXDoe3]

not until i get the keys

but yeah i hear 'ya

[Already_Taken]

anyway he reminds me of a guy who wants to sell me a used caddy with a wink and a smile

you stole that joke, but it's true

oh yeah, and during the oath, it seemed as if the oath giver messed up more than obama i think it goes "I ________" "I _________" "do solemnly swear" "do solemnly swear" etc.

[Against Miik!]

How it went down

Roberts: Are you prepared to take the oath, Senator?

Obama: I am.

R: I, Barack Hussein Obama [pause]

B: I, Barack --

R: ... do solemnly swear

B: I, Barack Hussein Obama do solemnly swear

R: that I will execute the Office of President of the United States faithfully

B: that I will execute [pause*]

R: [correcting] faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States

B: ... the Office of President of the United States faithfully

R: and will, to the best of my ability

O: and will, to the best of my ability

R: preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States

O: preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States

R: so help you God?

O: so help me God.

How its supposed to:

"I (name here) do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

[Shell]

yeah Peter Jennings said that the judge messed up the oath

also, I think Cheney looks even more evil in a wheelchair

[fingers mccoy]

yeh i was wondering whose mistake it was

[AA-12]

his speech was absolutely incredible. the part ending in "we will defeat you" ruled.

[Against Miik!]

yeh i was wondering whose mistake it was

It sounded at first like Barack messed up and I felt all bad for him because its like o you are the first black president and you can't even repeat some words dummy.

But then I listened again and Roberts messed up. so yeah.

[Mister_Che]

his speech was absolutely incredible. the part ending in "we will defeat you" ruled.

"We will extend a hand if you unclench your fist" was way better.

[JohnXDoe3]

yeah Peter Jennings said that the judge messed up the oath

also, I think Cheney looks even more evil in a wheelchair
wow Jennings came back from the grave for this? it really was a big day!

[ripitkyle77]

I missed Aretha Franklin's performance at the inaugeration today...I'll have to catch it online. Good luck President Obama!

[AA-12]

i hope Ted Kennedy makes it through okay.

[JohnXDoe3]

meh...if he doesn't he's had a good run. he is old...you gotta go sometime. he is a trooper, though. man has some strength

[AA-12]

i'm just glad he got to see what went on today.

[JohnXDoe3]

yeah it must have meant a lot to him. especially with the era he comes from and all the battles the Kennedy's fought in the civil rights movement. it was good to see him there

the whole thing made me feel kind of proud of being an American today. and pride is not something i indulge very often. but i liked the speech, the presentation, and the seemingly goodwill between all parties involved and thought it was class of Barack and his wife to see the outgoing President off in the helicopter. it was a nice event

guess more is to come tonight

[Der Übermensch]

The planning for this was a nightmare. Soooo poorly organized!!

[AA-12]

huh? how?

[John Paul Harrison]

couldn't help but notice that obama said "forty-four Americans have now taken the presidential oath"

[Jamais_Vu]

Anyone else find it funny that they spent millions of dollars on this inauguration, and then Obama talks about how bad the economy is?

[Seafroggys]

actually this will help the economy...that money has to go somewhere.

[JohnXDoe3]

Anyone else find it funny that they spent millions of dollars on this inauguration, and then Obama talks about how bad the economy is?
not really. if 700b dollars isn't enough to "bail" us out, 170m isn't going to do anything

the country had a good day. it was worth every penny imo

[Already_Taken]

couldn't help but notice that obama said "forty-four Americans have now taken the presidential oath"

learn something new every day? :confused:

[Jamais_Vu]

Shakira looks mighty fine..

[rasputin]

The speech started off well but when he started talking about how they're going to harness the sun and the winds to better our schools in the fight for freedom, it got lame.

[Angmar]

Not really speech was excellent, it's nice to have a president who cant handle big words and 15 minute long speeches without fumbling on his own tongue.

[JohnXDoe3]

i'm watching the neighborhood ball and its so freakin' cool

our Pres can dance, he's got da funk :cool:

signed, sealed, delivered, etc :)

[Joe]

The planning for this was a nightmare. Soooo poorly organized!!

Oh god it was a disaster!

Either way, no matter how much you plan, I don't think anyone could fathom what the number 2,000,000 actually meant.

The speech was fantastic.

[Angmar]

How was it a disaster you must be seeing something I'm not...

[AA-12]

Not really speech was excellent, it's nice to have a president who cant handle big words and 15 minute long speeches without fumbling on his own tongue.

the best part was how harsh the speech was. for a while he said the stuff he's been saying for a while, but then he really got serious and laid down some tough words.

[YellowRoseofTexas]

couldn't help but notice that obama said "forty-four Americans have now taken the presidential oath"

yeah it's actually 43

[siva_chair]

Actually it is 44 if you count Jefferson Davis.

[YellowRoseofTexas]

Actually it is 44 if you count Jefferson Davis.

Yeah but no one counts Jefferson Davis.

[siva_chair]

Why not?

[K oko]

yeah great lets see if he will do anything he has talked about now i bet everyone will love him tho no matter how bad he fuks up

[Iskandar]

Because the Confederate States of America weren't the same thing as the United States of America?

[siva_chair]

Because the Confederate States of America weren't the same thing as the United States of America?

Well the Union States of America weren't exactly the same thing as United States of America at that time, either. :p

Also, he still qualifies as "an American that has taken the presidential oath."

[AA-12]

yeah great lets see if he will do anything he has talked about now i bet everyone will love him tho no matter how bad he fuks up

oh sweet so you hate obama?

hmm, tell me more please this is interesting new info! :D

[Iskandar]

Well the Union States of America weren't exactly the same thing as United States of America at that time, either. :p

Also, he still qualifies as "an American that has taken the presidential oath."Yeah it's a matter of semantics really. He did take a presidential oath, just not the same one.

[YellowRoseofTexas]

Well the Union States of America weren't exactly the same thing as United States of America at that time, either. :p

Also, he still qualifies as "an American that has taken the presidential oath."

Well if he didn't fulfill the requirements in Article II Section 1 (of the Constitution) then he was not a legitimate president.

Really your argument is pathetic.

[Iskandar]

VF, you'd better watch yourself.

[YellowRoseofTexas]

VF, you'd better watch yourself.

I can tell you right now this isn't even a problem. If Iscariot responds to that other post I just made and then I in turn respond you'll really think I'm a racist. But I urge you to listen to my reasoning and explain the error of it.

[siva_chair]

Yeah it's a matter of semantics really. He did take a presidential oath, just not the same one.

Hey I was just trying to help Baracktrack out, here! :p

[Iskandar]

He's going to need all the help he can get with two foreign wars, an economic crisis and debt spiraling out of control.

I saw a good d0cumentary on the federal deficit. I think you would like it, if only I could remember the name of it.

[YellowRoseofTexas]

Hey I was just trying to help Baracktrack out, here! :p

Then write him a letter telling him that there's 50 states in the nation and remind him that it's the American International Group and not the "American Insurance Group".

[YellowRoseofTexas]

He's going to need all the help he can get with two foreign wars, an economic crisis and debt spiraling out of control.

I saw a good d0cumentary on the federal deficit. I think you would like it, if only I could remember the name of it.

I'm not worried about the federal budget deficit, but rather the federal government's learning deficits!

[siva_chair]

He's going to need all the help he can get with two foreign wars, an economic crisis and debt spiraling out of control.

I saw a good d0cumentary on the federal deficit. I think you would like it, if only I could remember the name of it.

Yes he is going to need that help. Especially since he plans to exacerbate the debt.

He seems to have a policy similar to the "guns and butter" mentality of LBJ. We all know how wonderful that turned out.....

Was the documentary only on the federal deficit?

[Iskandar]

Yes, it was. Very thorough and informative though.

I don't think we can predict what Obama's fiscal policies will look like in the long run. Increased spending is called for at the present because of the economic crisis but then he plans to end the Iraq war, which is a major drain on resources, but he has made comments about expanding US presence in Afghanistan etc.

[TheSaneLunatic]

Wow what a momentous event in American history... just happy to be able to witness it (via web stream, but still).

[YellowRoseofTexas]

Yes, it was. Very thorough and informative though.

I don't think we can predict what Obama's fiscal policies will look like in the long run. Increased spending is called for at the present because of the economic crisis but then he plans to end the Iraq war, which is a major drain on resources, but he has made comments about expanding US presence in Afghanistan etc.

One of his first acts in office is to raise taxes for 60 million Americans while expanding the SCHIp program to cover more "minorities" health insurance. Yes those poor minorities, enslaved for hundreds of years, let's give them another hand out! That'll punish those white devils!

[AA-12]

VF, you'd better watch yourself.

time to pull the plug!

[Iskandar]

The best part is that you put quotation marks around minorities to make it seem like they have all the power.

[YellowRoseofTexas]

The best part is that you put quotation marks around minorities to make it seem like they have all the power.

I guess I would be okay with calling them minorities if that meant they were only minor citizens.

[Iskandar]

Um, minority refers to their making up a smaller sector of the population than the majority ("whites").

[YellowRoseofTexas]

Um, minority refers to their making up a smaller sector of the population than the majority ("whites").

Well I guess if they only influence our lives in a minor way, I guess that would be a proper term. But unfortunately that's not the case.

[Iskandar]

Don't tell me you're going to seriously argue that minorities have all the power. I know you're dumb, but that's just ridiculous.

[siva_chair]

I don't think we can predict what Obama's fiscal policies will look like in the long run. Increased spending is called for at the present because of the economic crisis but then he plans to end the Iraq war, which is a major drain on resources, but he has made comments about expanding US presence in Afghanistan etc.

Why is increased spending called for at the present, exactly? That is what got us in this mess to begin with.

And if increased spending is what is going to get us out of this, he should encourage war, because it is a pinnacle of increased spending (on government contracts, industry, etc). In fact, he wants to increase the defense budget....

When will people drop this silly Keynesian idea?!?!

[Iskandar]

Keynesianism is economic orthodoxy no matter what you think of it. Or at least it was before the rise of neoliberalism. I wasn't making a value judgment, just pointing out that in a time of recession people will demand spending.

[K oko]

oh sweet so you hate obama?

hmm, tell me more please this is interesting new info! :D

when did i say hate yo

ive been lied to hustled and cheated all my life why am i supposed to believe because Obama is now president thats somehow gonna change everything all of the sudden huh you tell me how

[YellowRoseofTexas]

Don't tell me you're going to seriously argue that minorities have all the power. I know you're dumb, but that's just ridiculous.

They have a lot of power yes.

[Iskandar]

Lol, not really.

[siva_chair]

Keynesianism is economic orthodoxy no matter what you think of it. Or at least it was before the rise of neoliberalism. I wasn't making a value judgment, just pointing out that in a time of recession people will demand spending.

Which shows how ignorant people (particularly our leaders) really are when it comes to economics.

If I were a scientist that proposed a theory where basically every aspect of it turned out to be wrong over the period of years, people would disregard that theory. It just makes no sense to cling to orthodoxy when it has failed repeatedly.

[YellowRoseofTexas]

Lol, not really.

Well when you have those "poor, innocent, African Americans" who really aren't all that poor (or innocent) running most of the gangs in this nation, owning most of the guns, organizing most of the riots that occur in most of the nation, representing 50% of violent crime, and most rapes and assaults, then I consider them to have quite a bit of power.

[Iskandar]

Which shows how ignorant people (particularly our leaders) really are when it comes to economics.

If I were a scientist that proposed a theory where basically every aspect of it turned out to be wrong over the period of years, people would disregard that theory. It just makes no sense to cling to orthodoxy when it has failed repeatedly.Most people don't believe that though. Keynesianism was the theory behind the thirty golden years of capitalism, and so it still resonates strongly for many people.

I don't really feel like turning this into a debate over Keynesianism vs. Austrian/monetarism though. You know my opinions on that.

Oh and VF I'm ignoring your post because it was retarded.

[YellowRoseofTexas]

Most people don't believe that though. Keynesianism was the theory behind the thirty golden years of capitalism, and so it still resonates strongly for many people.

I don't really feel like turning this into a debate over Keynesianism vs. Austrian/monetarism though. You know my opinions on that.

Maynard James Keynes from TOOL is an economist? No ****!

[Iskandar]

The man's name is Keenan. Shut up.

[siva_chair]

Most people don't believe that though. Keynesianism was the theory behind the thirty golden years of capitalism, and so it still resonates strongly for many people.

I don't really feel like turning this into a debate over Keynesianism vs. Austrian/monetarism though. You know my opinions on that.

Which is why the US will not get any better as long as people believe this.

[Iskandar]

If you say so. I believe Keynesianism is correct in its fundamental assumptions; you obviously do not, so I don't think we can carry this line of discussion any further.

[siva_chair]

We will see. I would wager that Brock O'bannon's economic plan will fail. If he can manage to fool other nations (particularly China, Japan, Saudi Arabia, etc) into financing our debt and spending for a lot longer, he may be able to hold off a collapse for a little longer. But eventually all those greenback chickens are going to have to come home to roost, and when they do, it will probably make the 30's in the US look very pleasant. The US will be forced to pay the piper.

[Iskandar]

The debt is a concern, surely, and it gets worse every day, but its consequences will not be so dire as you're imagining. Americans will at most have to suck it up and accept reduced social spending (and that is after all exactly what you want).

These doom and gloom predictions get old fast.

[siva_chair]

The debt is a concern, surely, and it gets worse every day, but its consequences will not be so dire as you're imagining. Americans will at most have to suck it up and accept reduced social spending (and that is after all exactly what you want).

These doom and gloom predictions get old fast.

Of course they will have to suck it up and accept reduced social spending, but they will have to also deal with higher interest rates (the Fed can't keep them artificially low forever) as well as massive inflation (when China and co. start getting rid of the massive amounts of dollars and treasury bonds they are holding in exchange for a more stable, uninflated currency).

Hyperinflation is a very real possibility, and this massive spending proposal only exacerbates the possibility of it happening, as they aren't creating real wealth, they are simply printing it or borrowing it from other countries.

[Iskandar]

Hyperinflation is associated with economic and political upheavals far beyond what the US is ordinarily accustomed to. Granted, this crisis is out of the ordinary, but our socioeconomic system has proven itself to be remarkably resilient.

[siva_chair]

Hyperinflation is associated with economic and political upheavals far beyond what the US is ordinarily accustomed to. Granted, this crisis is out of the ordinary, but our socioeconomic system has proven itself to be remarkably resilient.

It has been "resilient" thus far, but that does not follow that it will work as such indefinitely. Especially considering how long the cracks have been there, and they are just getting worse. Obama is right in that there needs to be change, but the change he is proposing is not any real change.

[Iskandar]

A more radical change could end up doing more harm than good.

Wow, I'm sounding like a conservative.

[siva_chair]

A more radical change could end up doing more harm than good.

Wow, I'm sounding like a conservative.

Yes, yes you are.

How does that make you feel?

[Iskandar]

Yes, yes you are.

How does that make you feel?Like I didn't present my stance properly. I am all for change, albeit a very different type of change to what you would be. But I don't believe America is ready for it. America is still a very conservative place in the broad sense of the word.

[siva_chair]

So it should continue to advocate self-destructive policies. I see.

[Iskandar]

America's current path is probably unsustainable, at the very least in an environmental sense. The spending of course is ridiculous. But that doesn't mean we need to throw the whole system out.

And I never said it was a good idea to keep following it.

[siva_chair]

But he isn't even advocating change, he is advocating more of the same, economically.

Despite his rhetoric, Bush expanded the role of the Federal government under his watch, as did Clinton before him. Obama wants to continue that expansion. Change? Give me a break.

What is it about the current system that we should keep and why?

[Iskandar]

Obama's change is understood to be mostly in the arena of foreign policy, since that's the area which attracted the most criticism for Bush. He doesn't plan to end the War on Terror, which disappoints me, but if he does follow through on his promises to end Iraq, close Guantánamo and restore America's shattered foreign relations I'd feel his presidency was justified.

As for the political system itself we should keep it because it offers stability and we can reform it without resorting to revolutionary measures. Which is kind of its point.

[siva_chair]

Obama's change is understood to be mostly in the arena of foreign policy, since that's the area which attracted the most criticism for Bush. He doesn't plan to end the War on Terror, which disappoints me, but if he does follow through on his promises to end Iraq, close Guantánamo and restore America's shattered foreign relations I'd feel his presidency was justified.

As for the political system itself we should keep it because it offers stability and we can reform it without resorting to revolutionary measures. Which is kind of its point.

Update: Obama wants to increase the defense budget, "spread democracy" (hey where have we heard that one before), invest some $50 billion in other countries to fight terrorism, wants to add 65,000 troops to the Army and recruit 27,000 more Marines (Why? "To fight terrorism"), etc.

He said he wants the American military to "stay on the offense, from Djibouti to Kandahar," and he believes that "the ability to put boots on the ground will be critical in eliminating the shadowy terrorist networks we now face." Now, doesn't that sound strangely familiar to you?

"No president should ever hesitate to use force -- unilaterally if necessary. Not only to protect ourselves . . . when we are attacked," but also to protect "our vital interests" when they are "imminently threatened." Hey guess what that's known as preemptive military action!

[Iskandar]

I know. I said he didn't want to end the War on Terror and that's correct. But ending the war in Iraq is the first step.

[siva_chair]

Well it doesn't really help much if you are willing to send those troops elsewhere to fight more wars, does it?

[Iskandar]

Depends if those wars are of the same size and scope. Still, increasing the defense budget is a retarded idea.

[siva_chair]

I'd say we have a very good potential for even larger wars, given that he wants to expand the military.

[Iskandar]

Not really by that much considering how large it is already (and quite unnecessarily).

[siva_chair]

The point is that by expanding the military at all, he certainly isn't giving off the vibe of "change" that he so eloquently and passionately stressed while running for president.

[Iskandar]

Nope. But he was just sworn in yesterday. Let's give him a while before judging him too harshly.

I expect he will be a decent president, not great by any means but decent.

[AA-12]

the avatars are really making this discussion amazing, just saying.

[siva_chair]

Well if we get to make positive value judgements based on his rhetoric, why can't I criticize him for his rhetoric?

Unless the guy pulls one big "Haha you've all been Punk'd, I'm a Libertarian," I don't see the guy doing much good. Like I said, I like that he wants to end the war on drugs, but I don't hold much hope for everything else he proposes.

[siva_chair]

Gandhi and Mencken having a discussion about the US's new president.

It's possible they are really having that discussion in the Great Beyond.

[Der Übermensch]

Ok.

So what the ****!? The planning for this event was abysmal. None of the cops, reservists or volunteers knew where people were supposed to go. Starting on 7th st NE, we walked west for ages until we found someone who actually knew where we were supposed to go to get to the mall. By that time we were at 17th St NW... (18th St. was the way around - all of Penn Ave. was closed for the parade).

Of course if the cop I asked back at 2nd St. hadn't been a complete ****ing idiot, he would of known and told us that the 3rd St. Tunnel was open to foot traffic and would have saved us about an hour of walking, not to mention we would have been 3 times as close.
Of course even worse, my roommate who had a ticket DIDN'T EVEN GET IN WITH IT!!! The security checks took too long so they had to close them down to start the ceremony before everyone was through....

[siva_chair]

Ahh the joys of bureaucracy and central planning.

[pooble]

it looked pretty well planned from the tube.

i dont see why everyone liked the speech so much. i thought the one that he gave when he won the election was much more alan moorish. (better by most peoples standards).

[Der Übermensch]

It was a cluster****. Metro delays everywhere too.

[siva_chair]

Still thought Aretha Franklin's performance was the best part.

"My cunt.....try tis of thee....."

[pooble]

lol, were people drunk?

[JohnXDoe3]

i saw Nancy Pelosi at the inauguration and never realized she had big 'ol boobers

pretty sure i'd do her

just an observation....

[siva_chair]

I know I would have been. I would have been Randy from South Park drunk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkLT4PlydNE

[siva_chair]

i saw Nancy Pelosi at the inauguration and never realized she had big 'ol boobers

pretty sure i'd do her

just an observation....

I believe I just threw up in my mouth.

Just an observation.

[JohnXDoe3]

idk man they gotta be 40DD's at least :smoke:

she's kinda cute....considering the boobage

[siva_chair]

Gah!

http://hillbuzz.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/pelosi5.jpg

[Jude]

I went

Logistical nightmare, a couple hundred thousand of us were waiting to get in on the north side and it turned out they were letting people in without security on the south side and not telling us that, but kept us waiting there for 3 hours giving out wrong information

faggots

Finally got in tho and it was pretty cool

[Der Übermensch]

What entrance were you at in North? Cause there was no security for us - although admittedly we were all the way back at 18th st...

[Jude]

Like 3rd and D

[Der Übermensch]

O, I remember that mess of a crowd. We were there early on but were told that it was a parade entrance so left. I now know that the 3rd St. tunnel had mall access though.

[Jude]

O, I remember that mess of a crowd. We were there early on but were told that it was a parade entrance so left. I now know that the 3rd St. tunnel had mall access though.

It was a parade entrance eventually once they decided that they were going to stop letting us in the mall (which was maybe 1/3 full) and then like everybody left

[Der Übermensch]

I knew that DC wasn't going to be able to handle this, but I'm still depressed about just how badly they dropped the ball on it...

[siva_chair]

It's Washington....

[Joe]

Yeah of course it was going to be a disaster.

They had the stuff to do it, it's just annoying when one cop doesn't know what he's doing. They could have like had a meeting or something.

My girlfriend was telling me that she was in a mile-long line for one of the gates, and she walked up and there were no fences around the gates, so they just walked in to the section. That was after waiting in line for an hour.