windows 7 beta

[Amit]

is any1 else runnin it

[Mr. Ron]

no but I hear its close to what vista is?

[Hep Kat]

no but I hear its close to what vista is?

i heard it's basically the same thing with a different name


but idk/c

[Mr. Ron]

Meh, I'm pretty happy with vista myself. Never had a problem with it.

[Hep Kat]

yeah, it's okay for me too i guess



im not picky about my computing

[Amit]

it's vista but a little/much faster in certain things and i like the new ui features/improvements

[JohnXDoe3]

i think i'll stay with Vista. don't want to change over my OS every two years. which seems to be the way things are headed

when i build new, i'll consider it

[Meatplow]

/is still on XP

[GreyHam]

meh, there were enough bugs in retail vista - god only knows what the next beta will have

/still has XP

[fatkidzonmopedz]

i love xp, vista sucks

[JohnXDoe3]

i don't really understand some of the Vista complaints. if you got it when it first came out, yeah. sys requirements and the bugs. but since then its cool. i find it a lot like XP. it is still Windows, after all

if you tried it awhile ago give it another shot, i say. sure maybe you use a Vista OS at work or w/e. school or a friend. Windows is everywhere. but if you didn't really have a chance to live with it or just never have, well, you'd find its a good OS imo

[The_Mop]

I kinda half agree with all the Vista hate. I don't think anyone can really slag it off for incompatability anymore (and that wasn't even microsoft's fault when it came out) for drivers and shi, but there are some things in vista that are just purely ****ing stupid, like renaming the whole control panel and doing that stupid thing where it stops you from browsing files...

[JohnXDoe3]

i suppose it does have it's....quirks. but my control panel is still called control panel. i think :confused: still works the same

they have done this to keep up with new hardware. i don't know what to make of the Windows "Performance" scores. it seems a kooky thing. anyway the bar will be raised in Windows 7:

http://i40.tinypic.com/zjjgit.jpg

[beso negro]

it's vista but a little/much faster in certain things and i like the new ui features/improvements

lol who gives a **** about gui

i use windows classic style interface

[Group Zebra]

I have a key but I haven't gotten around to downloading it yet.

[Mr. Ron]

maybe you cheap nigs should buy a decent machine


oooooooo

[Amit]

lol who gives a **** about gui

i use windows classic style interface

yeah my computing mindset is from 1998 it must be good because it's so old and that's y i'll never change it

[IgniteYourAvail]

lol who gives a **** about gui

Most people.

[Mr. Ron]

maybe they should buy a maclol

[Amit]

lol mac*

[Mr. Ron]

just trying something different you know sauce things up a bit

[The_Mop]

i suppose it does have it's....quirks. but my control panel is still called control panel. i think :confused: still works the same


What I mean is within the control panel, all the stuff is called different things now. Like, 'Add or Remove Programs' is now called 'Programs and Features' even though it does exactly the same thing as before, and a lot of things are a lot less accesible (like trying to adjust the resolution, instead of going to 'Display' and clicking on a tab, you have to go through 'Personalization' and go through some random page before you get to something sensible). I mean, honestly, I'm flexible with change but not when it's completely pointless...

[IgniteYourAvail]

Well they designed Vista so it's easier for people who've never used Windows before to get set up, I guess.

[Amit]

What I mean is within the control panel, all the stuff is called different things now. Like, 'Add or Remove Programs' is now called 'Programs and Features' even though it does exactly the same thing as before, and a lot of things are a lot less accesible (like trying to adjust the resolution, instead of going to 'Display' and clicking on a tab, you have to go through 'Personalization' and go through some random page before you get to something sensible). I mean, honestly, I'm flexible with change but not when it's completely pointless...

i never had a problem with the personalization thing although i don't know why you're changing your resolution so much

you'll be happy to hear that now you can just right click on the desktop and there is an explicit option called screen resolution

[Phalanx]

yeah my computing mindset is from 1998 it must be good because it's so old and that's y i'll never change it

I don't think that's the primary reason. I use the classic theme simply because it's easier for my eyes (not biological or anything). All the giant buttons, exciting effects and what not the Aero theme gives annoy me.

I'll take a generic start button over big blue circle anyday.

[Mr. Ron]

meh, most people seem to be upset over purely superficial things.

[Phalanx]

meh, most people seem to be upset over purely superficial things.

Geeks always strive for perfection.

[The_Mop]

i never had a problem with the personalization thing although i don't know why you're changing your resolution so much

you'll be happy to hear that now you can just right click on the desktop and there is an explicit option called screen resolution

Yer, I know that it's not exactly the biggest inconvenience in the world but it's just sorta strange why they decided to change it when it worked so well before, seems like a classic case of overdesign

[Amit]

I don't think that's the primary reason. I use the classic theme simply because it's easier for my eyes (not biological or anything). All the giant buttons, exciting effects and what not the Aero theme gives annoy me.

I'll take a generic start button over big blue circle anyday.

that's subjectivity for you

i love all that stuff and it breaks my balls whenever i go back to xp

it's 3049302132195106 steps back

so far the beta is running great except for the two games i've tried to run (crysis warhead and quake live) and the sound seems to be funky

[Luc214]

I'll probably get it when it comes out, but it doesn't look like much more than a slightly redesigned Vista. :\

Any release date info yet?

[Amit]

june/july for OEM stuff

[Let's Chop Cats!]

sometime this year, most likely fall. I got a beta key but the desktop I want to install it on has a failed video card so it might be a while before I get it up and running.

[IgniteYourAvail]

I don't understand this.

Is this supposed to be another ME/XP deal? Is 7 the one that's gonna last 6 years?

[Amit]

me was built on 98 while xp was built on windows 2k

vista is built on new architecture and windows 7 builds upon vista

and there will hopefully be no more windows OS's which last more than 4 years

[smith_]

lul cmop nerdz lol

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Provided there is no major setbacks there will be a new Windows every 2-3 years as before.

[The Transporter]

the GUI "improvements" (from the articles i have read) seem more like something annoying than something i'd want. doubt i upgrade since vista is working like a charm for me and the whole windows version of a "mac dock" type setup looks retarded

also to the guy who doesn't like vista's control panel: you just type in what you want and it pops up. so freaking easy. "oh, i want power options...i'll type 'pow' in" and it pops up.

[Aficionado]

Amit you take computers too seriously

[Knifeboy]

I'll be looking into windows 7.0.
So far skipping every other windows system has done me good ever since the days of win2k

[Wish]

May try and download this at work so I can try it out. I don't really want to use it on my home PC even though it would run better.

[IgniteYourAvail]

and there will hopefully be no more windows OS's which last more than 4 years

Wait why? I'd prefer an OS to last a while and get periodic updates, rather than having to pay for a new one every few years.

[Against Miik!]

I read somewhere that before getting the beta you should back up your mp3 files, because for some reason, like 3 seconds of every mp3 file you have will get deleted somehow.

I don't know from experience, I just read it somewhere

[Aaron]

I think it's stupid to have a new OS out ever 2/3 years. What a waste of time. Most users aren't gamers who need waterfalls rendered with lifelike detail, while they shoot an impossibly designed alien [notice the irony?] standing in front of the waterfall. Stupid Microsoft and forgetting why computers exist; for working on. Big geek circle-jerk.

[beso negro]

I don't think that's the primary reason. I use the classic theme simply because it's easier for my eyes (not biological or anything). All the giant buttons, exciting effects and what not the Aero theme gives annoy me.

I'll take a generic start button over big blue circle anyday.

exactly nicely put.

amit is probably one of those people who has 100 shortcuts on his desktop too hahaha

i have just the recycling bin and my computer icons on my desktop

I think it's stupid to have a new OS out ever 2/3 years. What a waste of time. Most users aren't gamers who need waterfalls rendered with lifelike detail, while they shoot an impossibly designed alien [notice the irony?] standing in front of the waterfall. Stupid Microsoft and forgetting why computers exist; for working on. Big geek circle-jerk.

it's very important to have new operating systems coming out every 2 years. hardware is still way ahead of software.

[Aaron]

Why is it important? If the majority of people's needs are being serviced then it's not crucial.

[beso negro]

because technology changes so quickly. windows has to stay up to date. soon hdd will become obsolete and everyone will carry around with them their OS and files on usb. also cloud computing is becoming popular and windows 7 will be designed for this.

[Aaron]

I don't think you're seeing my point; both technology and software only changes because people feel like it has to, but if you're fulfilling the needs of consumers it doesn't have to realistically.

[Amit]

Wait why? I'd prefer an OS to last a while and get periodic updates, rather than having to pay for a new one every few years.

because then you get poopty OS's and stupid consumers impeding progress like what happened with XP

I don't think you're seeing my point; both technology and software only changes because people feel like it has to, but if you're fulfilling the needs of consumers it doesn't have to realistically.

just like with the pre-XP years, no one will force you to update anything until you need/want to when we go back to a 2-4 year OS cycle

why don't people realize this

[Aaron]

Who said I didn't realise that?

I'm making a comment on the geek cycle generally.

[Amit]

I think it's stupid to have a new OS out ever 2/3 years.

that's because you're stuck in thinking that 2-3 year OS's are the same as 6-7 year OS's

they aren't

What a waste of time. Most users aren't gamers who need waterfalls rendered with lifelike detail, while they shoot an impossibly designed alien [notice the irony?] standing in front of the waterfall. Stupid Microsoft and forgetting why computers exist; for working on. Big geek circle-jerk.

err the biggest stumbling block to getting work done are stubborn and stupid consumers that don't want to migrate from poor user interfaces

that's what happens when you have a 4-6 year OS cycle

gg

[Aaron]

The biggest stumbling block to getting work done is shitty interfaces that try to hard to be aesthetically pleasing instead of being functional. Oh, but the tabs are translucent! Sorry, that's a crucial thing. I'm sorry.

[Amit]

The biggest stumbling block to getting work done is poopty interfaces that try to hard to be aesthetically pleasing instead of being functional. Oh, but the tabs are translucent! Sorry, that's a crucial thing. I'm sorry.

umm what's not functional about the windows 7 interface

i was the biggest skeptic of the new taskbar and its general UI workflow until i used it regularly on the beta; i think it's a huge step forward compared to XP and even Vista

how much have you been using the windows 7 beta on a real machine? or hell, even a virtual machine?

[beso negro]

microsoft isn't making a new OS just because they have some new neat gui ideas.

amit not everybody has the time or money to keep up with the latest technology.

[Amit]

no of course not

but if they didn't, then you would all bitch

christ it never ends

[Let's Chop Cats!]

I don't think you're seeing my point; both technology and software only changes because people feel like it has to, but if you're fulfilling the needs of consumers it doesn't have to realistically.
thats a terrible attitude to have when it comes to technology. if we lived by those rules we would never have gotten this far as it is, nothing would have progressed past windows 3.1 and the basic word/mspaint/56k. I guarantee you in 5-10 years time you'll be thinking "how the hell did anyone live with Windows 7"

[Against Miik!]

^^^yep, definitely

Technology doesn't follow demand, demand follows the technology. I'll admit sometimes it moves a bit fast, but its better than not at all. I've heard that if the average person buys a computer out of the box it will be officially outdated within like 6 seconds, assuming its the best thing out there.

The biggest stumbling block to getting work done is poopty interfaces that try to hard to be aesthetically pleasing instead of being functional. Oh, but the tabs are translucent! Sorry, that's a crucial thing. I'm sorry.

I don't see why an OS can't look nice and be functional. You shouldn't sacrifice aesthetics for functionality, but if you have to do that, then clearly the machine you have shouldn't be using that OS to begin with.

Too bad I won't be able to see Windows 7 for a while, because I don't have the cash to drop on a laptop that can handle it, or even Vista for that matter.

[Anglachel]

get a mac

[Wish]

Despite what I said about installing it at home, I think I will now. It will be a lot more tidy there and it will give me something to do tonight.