How screwed are we?

[GnRguitarist]

1. We have Russian intellectuals predicting the end of America.

2. The Economy is dead.

3. We are going to go into another depression.

4. Gas prices are going to skyrocket.

5. There is likely to be another terrorist attack within the next few years in America.

6. Bird flu.

7. So many other things that I have seen on CNN.

So how screwed are we?

[Light Fantastic]

not really screwed at all calm down

[beso negro]

4. Gas prices are going to skyrocket.

they better not

[The Stig]

1. So?
2. Not really
3. Not really economies are cyclical
4. When the economy goes back up again yeah i guess but we survived with higher prices before
5. okay there was one in 1993 one in 1995, one in 2001 and we are still around
6. lmao
7. Well if CNN says it it must be true


Bad thread Nacho close

[Mr. Ron]

odds are gas prices will go up in a few months.

[Surgicalgod]

it's all because of gaza uno.

jews did oil prices

[Light Fantastic]

gas is $10 a gallon here and the sky isnt falling yet i think you are safe

[iliketoplaydrums10111]

stop watching the news ****in srsly

[Aaron]

1. What's that got to do with anything? You've got American interlectuals predicting it too.
2. That cause you spent too much.
3. You already are in a recession.
4. Good. Then you'll invest in public transport infrastructure.
5. Highly subjective. Who can tell?
6. Pandemics are inevitable.
7. Cool.

[Iskandar]

Recessions aren't depressions; gas prices have been plummeting lately, where have you been? and retards have been predicting another terrorist attack since 9/11 happened but it hasn't yet which should tell you something.

[Kucinichism]

6. Has Tomlinson been on lately?

[mph4ever]

and you can still get a bowl of kelloggs cornflakes for 10p

[The Stig]

6. Has Tomlinson been on lately?

haha

This post [/thread]

Seriously

[GnRguitarist]

So am I just being paranoid then?

[The Stig]

Pretty much. Bad **** happens really. Economies thrive, economies go down. People tend to get too worried about short term problems and forget that over time, economies will usually right themselves.

[GnRguitarist]

Ok. Thanks. Because I haven't been able to sleep for the past two weeks because I've been panicking about all of this stuff.

[The Stig]

And really news channels always focus on the bad because good news doesn't sell.

[Swingfinger]

I heard that Obama released the Bird Flu

[jaredong]

i wouldnt worry about the tv stuff. Here's a bit on the Mean World Syndrome.

http://www.context.org/ICLIB/IC38/Gerbner.htm

Basically states those who watch a lot of tv have a more pessimistic (and unrealistic) view of the world. Though it relates more so to violence, im sure it applies to other things.

The mean world syndrome results in a reduced sensitivity to the consequences of violence along with an increased sense of vulnerability and dependence - and therefore a demand for repression from the government.

Not to mention, if i was a media corporation, i would rather focus on headline stealers like "we're epically doomed!!" rather than "Oh, another good day for the majority of people here :)" Bad news sells.

Anyway, in terms of worry, i find dale carnegie helps me tons.

http://www.westegg.com/unmaintained/carnegie/stop-worry.html

I say, live for today and be happy to know that you're already 10x better than many people in the past and present.

oh and this song always helps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eyFiClAzq8&feature=related

[Jude]

1. We have Russian intellectuals predicting the end of America.
2. The Economy is dead.
3. We are going to go into another depression.
4. Gas prices are going to skyrocket.
5. There is likely to be another terrorist attack within the next few years in America.
6. Bird flu.
7. So many other things that I have seen on CNN.
So how screwed are we?

1. They're mad that the great Soviet empire isn't a big deal anymore
2. No it's not just at a shitty point in its cycle
3. Maybe maybe not we've survived depressions before anyhow
4. That's a good thing it'll make fatass Americans stop cruising everywhere in their SUVs and learn how to walk and carpool and bike and fund rail transit
5. That's been the case for the past 8 years IIRC and anyway I'm more worried about the aftermath of one and which innocent countries we'll destroy this time around
6. lol even if this is a real threat, there's been so much crying wolf that it's lost its power to frighten me.
7. Ohhhh nooooooo media definitely doesn't seek to boost ratings through fear or anything

[sleepless]

Wow, how ****ing selfish are you?

The world has its own problems, are you're worried whats going to happen to poor little U.S. As a U.S. citizen I have lost more sleep worrying about the warring, and the starving, and the dying than I have about myself and our shithole centralized country.

I love the soil, but not the reign.

[Jude]

Ya that's pretty true we can handle a terrorist attack or two without whining like a bunch of pussies if we just put things in perspective

[sleepless]

This lack of perspective is what is clouding the minds of all of us and allowing the same bullshit to continue in perpetuity as it has since civilization first occurred.

[K oko]

yeh were fuked we will run out of resources in another 20 years tops then there will be a cataclysmic destruction and all of us who survive will return to out anarcho-primitivist roots and rebuild the garden of eden

[beso negro]

As a U.S. citizen I have lost more sleep worrying about the warring, and the starving, and the dying than I have about myself and our poophole centralized country.

it's not our job to feed the starving ******s in africa

[Iskandar]

Yeah they chose to be starving anyway.

[Chu]

Africa's not the only continent that starves (you were probably being sarcastic, but meh).

Also, you guys ****ed up Cambodia hardcore, and you've all but forgotten about it.

[DeckerDontPlay]

I dont know what's funnier, the obvious impending doom of america or...
Wow, how ****ing selfish are you?

The world has its own problems, are you're worried whats going to happen to poor little U.S. As a U.S. citizen I have lost more sleep worrying about the warring, and the starving, and the dying than I have about myself and our poophole centralized country.

I love the soil, but not the reign.

this. Hahaha

[sleepless]

Funny ****.

[Iskandar]

Africa's not the only continent that starves (you were probably being sarcastic, but meh).Yeah but it has the worst problems by far and to expect that Africans can just pull themselves up by their bootstraps is retarded. That's what I was being sarcastic about.

[guitrguy]

The end of America is going to happen sometime.

[Chu]

Yeah but it has the worst problems by far and to expect that Africans can just pull themselves up by their bootstraps is retarded. That's what I was being sarcastic about.
I actually clicked reply before you had replied, I was replying to beso.

[Murdererer]

USA is way better then australia

[Chu]

Cool.

Searching for relevance.

[Murdererer]

cuz we gotta hella cars and roads and stuff ya'll can only dream of

[Chu]

Yep, there be no roads in Australia.

[sleepless]

Two birds, one stone.

[Castillo]

1. We have Russian intellectuals predicting the end of America.

2. The Economy is dead.

3. We are going to go into another depression.

4. Gas prices are going to skyrocket.

5. There is likely to be another terrorist attack within the next few years in America.

6. Bird flu.

7. So many other things that I have seen on CNN.

So how screwed are we?


Barrack Obama is going to fix everything cool your f*cking jets.

[Det_Nosnip]

not really screwed at all calm down

Ha...for once, I agree.

[Mr. Ron]

I don't understand why any of you are worried

he have HOPE AND CHANGE on our sides dudez!

[McP3000]

lalala change lalala la

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

1. We have Russian intellectuals predicting the end of America.

2. The Economy is dead.

3. We are going to go into another depression.

4. Gas prices are going to skyrocket.

5. There is likely to be another terrorist attack within the next few years in America.

6. Bird flu.

7. So many other things that I have seen on CNN.

So how screwed are we?
1 oh my an intellectual saying something, that never happens (in fact these yayas talk all the time even when no ones around (in their heads(book)))
2 wats tha economy?????? :confused:
3 no we are not, we are in the future you do not know what will happen
4 well ya someday
5 hahahahahahahha youll need like 30 000 9/11s to kill everyone in the us
6 well how bout the bubonic plague do you have that? thats no biggie anyways, it only killed 1/3 of the peeps in europe
7 ya? did you know that oprah and that little ticker on cnn are the rulers of america and "freedom woohoo lol"

[Iskandar]

(*The Noonward Race*) for weirdest Aboriginal-Canadian in '09.

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

nominate internet for weirdest rectangular shaped viewing thingy 09

[DBoons Ghost]

The sky is falling the sky is falling! RUN! RUN AWAY!

[adrianman]

watching the news makes you depressed, i on the other hand when i feel sad i watch teletubbies

[Pastorius]

I can't believe any of those points were serious.

7 pretty much covers the first 6.

[DeckerDontPlay]

You forgot that we are all gonna die in 2012. December 21st right? So I guess everything else is irrelevant so in some way thats a form of optimism.

[beso negro]

Yeah but it has the worst problems by far and to expect that Africans can just pull themselves up by their bootstraps is retarded. That's what I was being sarcastic about.

whether they can or can't is irrelevant I really don't care. it's not my job to help them.

[Foehammer]

1. We have Russian intellectuals predicting the end of America.

2. The Economy is dead.

3. We are going to go into another depression.

4. Gas prices are going to skyrocket.

5. There is likely to be another terrorist attack within the next few years in America.

6. Bird flu.

7. So many other things that I have seen on CNN.

So how screwed are we?

/sigh

[interviewer02]

1. We have Russian intellectuals predicting the end of America.

2. The Economy is dead.

3. We are going to go into another depression.

4. Gas prices are going to skyrocket.

5. There is likely to be another terrorist attack within the next few years in America.

6. Bird flu.

7. So many other things that I have seen on CNN.

So how screwed are we?Are you ****ing kidding me?

Wow, you'de have never held up in...any other time period in the existance of man on earth.

Seriously, things aren't that bad, its just that bloody tampon whiners like you like to always think things are terrible. Gas prices are at $1.50 from $4.20 and people find reasons to bitch about that.
Were a superpower, people always predict that we'll fall.

And it is NOT likely that well get a terrorist attack in the next few years.

I remember I went to a gas station and someone working there started up a conversation with me about how were screwed, Bush is a terrible president, and gas prices are going to get up to $8 a gallon. Two years later...$1.49.

[sleepless]

Beso is ****ing trash.

[Pastorius]

You do realise how much the rest of the world pays for petrol right?

[Soy Dios]

ts forgot one

8. Our president is a ******

[McP3000]

haha good point

[Iskandar]

whether they can or can't is irrelevant I really don't care. it's not my job to help them.It's in your interest, and everyone's interest, to help them.

[beso negro]

how would it help the economy

[Iskandar]

It would help the world economy by allowing Africa to develop, thus becoming a source of labour and capital instead of a destination for humanitarian aid.

What is good about letting millions of people die, who could have made meaningful contributions to society?

[wartomods]

we have the magic negro

[Iskandar]

Yeah, who needs all those other, non-magical negros. Let them die.

[Reductio]

whether they can or can't is irrelevant I really don't care. it's not my job to help them.

Everybody has a moral imperative to limit suffering.

Let me guess, you're a fan of Ayn Rand?

[beso negro]

lol how did u no

[Iskandar]

The callous disregard for human life.

But instead of appealing to the shreds of your humanity I tried to offer a utilitarian argument for development aid. Development will allow Africa to contribute to the global economy with their human capital and formidable natural resources. Africa is no good to us while its people live in grinding poverty.

[Light Fantastic]

its of no personal benefit since any dividends wont be collected in our lifetime

[Mr. Ron]

helping others when you can and what with you have benefits you because it is easier to survive with better equipped people.

[Surgicalgod]

lets help africa for a better world and a better community for our children to grow up in and better education and HEALT SERVICES.

[Iskandar]

We don't need to help those brownies. Our countries are better for a reason.

[Jude]

I had a dream that Obama was giving a speech at his inauguration, but it was inside some building that looked kind of like St. Peter's Basilica, and his daughters were next to him, and one of them was being stupid on purpose, having a coughing fit right into the mic, blatantly on purpose. He started getting pissed off and he almost bitchslapped her, but then he restrained himself and gently pushed her away.

wtf

[mph4ever]

I had a dream that Obama was giving a speech at his inauguration, but it was inside some building that looked kind of like St. Peter's Basilica, and his daughters were next to him, and one of them was being stupid on purpose, having a coughing fit right into the mic, blatantly on purpose. He started getting pissed off and he almost bitchslapped her, but then he restrained himself and gently pushed her away.

wtf
i would interpret that as you yearning to bang michelle and portraying barry hussein as a child beater is a quick way into her knickers

[Jude]

i mean i would smash but she's not real high on my list u no

[mph4ever]

i mean i would smash but she's not real high on my list u no


maybe its some other power wielding negress, oprah perhaps

[Faceless_AtJ]

Nothing's going to happen to us, the worst cases scenario, people will be out of jobs for a while and signs of another depression are starting to rise but if we just watch what we do and hopefully Obama will open the eyes of the government to see that something needs to be done. I think only gas will go back up and we will still be living day to day.

[mph4ever]

Nothing's going to happen to us, the worst cases scenario, people will be out of jobs for a while and signs of another depression are starting to rise but if we just watch what we do and hopefully Obama will open the eyes of the government to see that something needs to be done. I think only gas will go back up and we will still be living day to day.

how long is utah behind the rest of the planet?

its gone way past depression

[Chu]

Ignorance is bliss :thumb:

[BlisteryNixon]

We don't need to help those brownies. Our countries are better for a reason.

This is certainly conduct unbecoming of a moderator.

[Iskandar]

I was being facetious.

[BlisteryNixon]

I was being facetious.

Still though, it is inappropriate. It is also hate speech. ;)

[Iskandar]

It'd have to be sincere in order to be hate speech.

[BlisteryNixon]

It'd have to be sincere in order to be hate speech.

Explain to me how what I said was hate speech. Is it hate speech when criminals are sentenced to death?

[Iskandar]

You advocated ethnic cleansing and gave no indication you were anything but completely serious. That's called hate speech. I'd treat an Arab arguing that we should ethnicly cleanse Israel the same way.

[BlisteryNixon]

You advocated ethnic cleansing and gave no indication you were anything but completely serious. That's called hate speech. I'd treat an Arab arguing that we should ethnicly cleanse Israel the same way.

I think you're missing the point entirely.

The Muslim people are a threat to all civilized peoples. The threat must be vanquished. They killed hundreds in December in Mumbai. They have fired rockets on a daily basis into Israel from Gaza since September 2005. And then Hezbollah fired two rockets into Israel last week, killing more people. Muslim leaders frequently say Israel should be wiped off the map or ran into the Mediterranean. They continue seeking every opportunity to launch more terrorist attacks throughout the world as seen on 7/7 and 7/21.

My speech is not of extreme hate but extreme love. I love democracy and freedom and liberty, I love the right to vote and to walk outside freely without fear of a nuclear attack or bombing or getting my head cut off (like they did to Pearl, Armstrong, and many others) and the fact is as long as the Muslim people are allowed freedom, there will be a continuation of these attacks and assaults on liberty.

In the 40s they had the Japanese internment camps. It wasn't because we hated the Japanese, it was because they were a threat to national security.

I would support a similar measure with the Muslim people in America.

[Iskandar]

Okay, so now you're stereotyping. Strike two.

[BlisteryNixon]

Okay, so now you're stereotyping. Strike two.

Funny I read the rules and there was nothing against stereotyping.

But I wasn't in any case.

Do you want the proof that the Quran is a book of hate, teaching its followers to "kill" and "slay" the infidel wherever they may find them? Oh but you read the Quran, the edited version that is :lol:

[Iskandar]

Funny I read the rules and there was nothing against stereotyping.

But I wasn't in any case.

Do you want the proof that the Quran is a book of hate, teaching its followers to "kill" and "slay" the infidel wherever they may find them? Oh but you read the Quran, the edited version that is :lol:I have the Arabic version. Don't be dumb.

And a bunch of out of context Qur'an verses about violence mean nothing. You could do the same thing with the Bible.

[BlisteryNixon]

I have the Arabic version. Don't be dumb.

And a bunch of out of context Qur'an verses about violence mean nothing. You could do the same thing with the Bible.

Why don't you show me these verses in the Bible that are so controversial then? I haven't seen them.

[Iskandar]

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.html

[BlisteryNixon]

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.html

That is all absurd. Some of the things He did were a little uncalled for but the way these things are presented on this site shows no regard for the history of those events.

Like God killing the firstborn in Exodus. The Egyptians held captive the Israelites for many years and God gave them copious opportunities to turn from their sin and release the Jewish people. The plagues were a combination of God's punishment to the disobedient Egyptians and an example of God's love. He didn't send the plagues upon everyone, it was just to those who refused to hear His words. When the people spread the lamb's blood over their doors the angel of death would pass over that house. I don't think this is an example of God's egregious tyranny but rather of God's unending love. These children who were killed most likely made it into Heaven in the end.

[Iskandar]

Okay but you take the Bible literally. Most people don't.

Same goes for Muslims and the Qur'an.

[BlisteryNixon]

Okay but you take the Bible literally. Most people don't.

Same goes for Muslims and the Qur'an.

I take the "Qur'an" quite literally when it says "And slay them wherever ye find them" among other verses commanding the Muslims to not befriend or even talk to Jews or Christians.

[The Stig]

I have the Arabic version. Don't be dumb.

And a bunch of out of context Qur'an verses about violence mean nothing. You could do the same thing with the Bible.

This.

[BlisteryNixon]

This.

Wrong. Islam teaches violence from an early age, and it is made most evident by the actions of its adherents.

[Iskandar]

Most of the verses that refer to war or violence are about wars the early Muslims fought. They began as a persecuted minority, not the religious and cultural powerhouse they would later become.

[The Stig]

Wrong. Islam teaches violence from an early age, and it is made most evident by the actions of its adherents.

You could make the same argument about some branches of Christianity. Or even American history. It's a ridiculous argument.

[BlisteryNixon]

They began as a persecuted minority.

No. They began as violent marauders raping children, beheading those who would not convert, and killing everyone who defied them. They were not at all persecuted. They were the ones doing the persecuting. Like the slaughter of Christians in Fez in the 7th century

[BlisteryNixon]

You could make the same argument about some branches of Christianity. Or even American history. It's a ridiculous argument.

American history? I fail to see the connection. And you know as well as I do the Christians are not a violent people. Not one "branch" has been identified as a violent or terroristic group.

[Iskandar]

Hahaha, you don't know anything about early Islam. Muhammad and his followers were forced to flee because of their beliefs. It's called the Hijrah. They also fought other more powerful tribes who profited too much from idolatry to let a small group of disorganized monotheists get in their way.

[The Stig]

Branch Davidians (though I was opposed to the action taken against them)
The Crusades?

[Iskandar]

There are lots of wacky and extreme Christian groups. Christian Identity for starters.

[BlisteryNixon]

Branch Davidians (though I was opposed to the action taken against them)
The Crusades?

The Crusades were fought by Catholics. Something totally different from Christianity.

[The Stig]

You really are a ****ing idiot aren't you.

[Iskandar]

Er, at the time Catholics were Christianity.

[Surgicalgod]

Hahaha, you don't know anything about early Islam. Muhammad and his followers were forced to flee because of their beliefs. It's called the Hijrah. They also fought other more powerful tribes who profited too much from idolatry to let a small group of disorganized monotheists get in their way.

This.

[The Stig]

I think I found a new sig.

[BlisteryNixon]

Er, at the time Catholics were Christianity.

No they weren't. The true church was killed off by the Catholics early on and by Caesar. It was not until the Protestant Reformation that the church was revived.

[Iskandar]

Er, okay?

Protestantism didn't exist until the Reformation. It was an entirely new theology.

[The Stig]

The real Christianity was so real we don't have a name for it. Except for Real XXX-ianity!

[BlisteryNixon]

Er, okay?

Protestantism didn't exist until the Reformation. It was an entirely new theology.

That isn't the point. The point is that the church was killed off in the AD 1st century and that is when the Catholics took over.

Unfortunately the Bible isn't very clear on early church history after AD 60 but it is very clear in warning of the Catholic church's influence and power (that is, the Catholic church is something totally different from Christianity)

[Iskandar]

What church are you talking about? The Bible describes Peter, the first Catholic pope, as the Rock of the Church. His name (petros) is Greek for "rock."

[The Stig]

Historians generally agree with Catholic doctrine that through Apostolic succession, the Catholic Church is the continuation of Jesus' early followers.

[/Flush this argument]

[BlisteryNixon]

What church are you talking about? The Bible describes Peter, the first Catholic pope, as the Rock of the Church. His name (petros) is Greek for "rock."

Peter was not the Pope. That is revisionist history. Revelation 12 is very clear. The Catholic church is not the true church. The true church was driven underground by the Catholics for 1260 years, according to some interpretations.

[The Stig]

[/Head expoldes]

Revelation is clear.

[BlisteryNixon]

[/Head expoldes]

Revelation is clear.

Revelation is very clear. The true church was driven underground by the Catholic church.

[The Stig]

I bet Peter was autistic and misinterpreted.

[BlisteryNixon]

I bet Peter was autistic and misinterpreted.

Do you mean John the Revelator? He wrote Revelation.

[The Stig]

No I'm talking about the Rock of our church.

Maybe he was just autistic and thought he was pope.

And Gogol's The Nose was an allegory telling us the real story.

[Iskandar]

Revelations is so vague that anyone who claims to know what it's about is lying. Even with improvements in textual scholarship and higher criticism many of the passages are still obscure.

Where are you getting this stuff from?

[The Stig]

I thought it was generally accepted Rev. was a way to codify the faith in times of persecution so that people could follow the faith without getting sent to to the Coliseum.

[Iskandar]

I thought it was generally accepted Rev. was a way to codify the faith in times of persecution so that people could follow the faith without getting sent to to the Coliseum.Yeah pretty much. Its allegories and allusions would have made sense at the time it was written, at least to educated people. Now its original meaning is completely lost and there are so many competing interpretations it's nearly impossible to figure out what it really means.

[The Stig]

I think it means the world is ending at 5:21 PM MST on December 21, 2012.

[BlisteryNixon]

Revelations is so vague that anyone who claims to know what it's about is lying. Even with improvements in textual scholarship and higher criticism many of the passages are still obscure.

Where are you getting this stuff from?

A great and wondrous sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. 3Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on his heads. 4His tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that he might devour her child the moment it was born. 5She gave birth to a son, a male child, who will rule all the nations with an iron scepter. And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne. 6The woman fled into the desert to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.

http://patmospapers.com/daniel/facts.htm

This explains it pretty well as far as the 538-->1798 1260 years prophecy.

No I'm talking about the Rock of our church.

Maybe he was just autistic and thought he was pope.

And Gogol's The Nose was an allegory telling us the real story.

No that would make him delusional, not autistic.

[Iskandar]

Okay, but a random verse from Revelations means nothing to me 'cause I'm not a Christian and that book is by far the most obscure in the Bible. We're not even sure if the Whore of Babylon refers to Rome or Judah or what.

[BlisteryNixon]

Okay, but a random verse from Revelations means nothing to me 'cause I'm not a Christian and that book is by far the most obscure in the Bible. We're not even sure if the Whore of Babylon refers to Rome or Judah or what.

The whore is the European Union and later on it describes the fate of America.

[Iskandar]

Okay, except lots of people don't think that and the consensus among textual scholars seems to lean towards it being Rome. Founded on seven hills and all.

Unless you think the writers of the Bible could predict the future which is hilarious if you do.

[BlisteryNixon]

Okay, except lots of people don't think that and the consensus among textual scholars seems to lean towards it being Rome. Founded on seven hills and all.

Unless you think the writers of the Bible could predict the future which is hilarious if you do.

Rome, no.

Two, yes.

Jeremiah 16 is a great example of the "writers predicting the future".

[siva_chair]

Branch Davidians (though I was opposed to the action taken against them)
The Crusades?

Well the Branch Davidians weren't really violent until the Federal government initiated violence against them, so...

And the Crusades are a good example of what happens when the state is in bed with religion. Incidentally, this is a far more common occurance with Islam today than with any other religion. Religion can only get away with oppressing people if it functions through, or has the blessings of, the coercive apparatus of the state.

Islam the religion itself isn't the problem; Islam the state is.

[Iskandar]

The problem is that traditionally in Islam there is nothing comparable to the Western concept of separation of church and state. In early Islam, the state and the religious authority were one - the Khalifah. Muslim reformers have had to struggle against this concept from day one. Certain Muslim states have made a lot of progress towards this in recent times though.

[siva_chair]

The problem is that traditionally in Islam there is nothing comparable to the Western concept of separation of church and state. In early Islam, the state and the religious authority were one - the Khalifah. Muslim reformers have had to struggle against this concept from day one. Certain Muslim states have made a lot of progress towards this in recent times though.

And I hope they continue to progress.

I think it speaks volumes when one sees that Muslims who are born and raised in a nation that isn't an Islamic state don't tend to advocate the violence and "we must convert everyone" attitude held by those indoctrinated by Islamic statism.

[Iskandar]

Yes, because while those radical interpretations of Islam would be there, they would lack institutional support. It's a really dark comedy that Saudi Arabia paints itself as an ally of the US while disseminating the ideas and petrodollars that founded the likes of Al-Qaidah.

[siva_chair]

Yes, because while those radical interpretations of Islam would be there, they would lack institutional support. It's a really dark comedy that Saudi Arabia paints itself as an ally of the US while disseminating the ideas and petrodollars that founded the likes of Al-Qaidah.

Exactly. The same could be said about Christianity and the Crusades.

And yes, it is quite the dark comedy. That is an excellent way of putting it.

[Futue te Ipsum]

i dont see how russian intellectuals can be that smart if they were really smart they wouldve had the sense to be born in a better country

[GnRguitarist]

Well they're a lot smarter than you.

[spitfirejunky]

^ Debatable.

[Surgicalgod]

The whore is the European Union and later on it describes the fate of America.

Wow. The European Union? Assuming the bible is true, the closest thing to the whore of Babylon is America not the EU.

[The Stig]

I thought the whore of Babylon was a prostitute who lived in the middle eastern empire of the same name.

[gregulus]

I thought the whore of Babylon was a prostitute who lived in the middle eastern empire of the same name.

Imagine that. Fitting title, no?

On a scale of one to hottest girl ever, what will this woman be?

[griftadan]

3. We are going to go into another depression.
4. Gas prices are going to skyrocket.

uhhhh

[The Stig]

Imagine that. Fitting title, no?

On a scale of one to hottest girl ever, what will this woman be?

666

holy **** i cracked the code

[siva_chair]

3. We are going to go into another depression.
4. Gas prices are going to skyrocket.

uhhhh

Well if it's an inflationary depression....

[BlisteryNixon]

Wow. The European Union? Assuming the bible is true, the closest thing to the whore of Babylon is America not the EU.

It is a position the EU and America holds jointly.

[deathbysexywtf]

I love Iskandar!

[pooble]

the fate of the dollar seems to be uncertain, as far as i have read/heard.

[siva_chair]

It's going to tank if they keep doing what they have been doing: massive bailouts and running the Fed's printing presses full steam.

[xMalcolmXx]

the more money we print

the more money we have.

[siva_chair]

Flawless logic.

If printing money created real wealth, we would have eradicated poverty a long time ago.

[xMalcolmXx]

it was a metaphor

[siva_chair]

But you forgot to add the ever so important part:

"the less our money is worth."

Unfortunately, there really are people out there that really think that this thing can be solved by printing more money.

[xMalcolmXx]

and those people happen to be in charge

awesome!

[siva_chair]

I know isn't it great?