So Listened to The Clash London Calling... [Archive]

TakeWarning

11-26-2008, 03:35 AM

The Clash are awful.

Posting in a silverfang-on-exchange thread.

Wouldn't go that far.

Horribly over-rated though. I can't believe London Calling is rated #1 on Sputnik's all time punk albums! I can't even make it through the entire thing it's that boring.

Alf™

11-26-2008, 03:40 AM

oh so is it cool to hate on the clash now or something

TakeWarning

11-26-2008, 04:16 AM

I like The Clash. I just don't get why everyone rates London Calling so highly.

big80smullet

11-26-2008, 04:57 AM

i like them they just arent very punk tbh.

dropkickstreetpunk

11-26-2008, 06:36 AM

Most of the bands people post on here aren't punk.

Good first CD, London calling is okay sometimes

big80smullet

11-26-2008, 07:12 AM

its v v good. classic some would say.

TBrown87

11-26-2008, 07:18 AM

London CAlling was my favorite album for a while.

posting in a silverfang thread

Meatplow

11-26-2008, 07:50 AM

lol R&M invades the punk forum

I like the clash

big80smullet

11-26-2008, 08:04 AM

its like the asian invasion just with less asians

Correction

11-26-2008, 08:40 AM

thhe clash arent bad aaron you be trippin

DBoons Ghost

11-26-2008, 08:59 AM

christsimpson

11-26-2008, 09:30 AM

band is not punk. band is not good either. band sucks.

IgniteYourAvail

11-26-2008, 09:38 AM

You guys are awesome with your big avatars.

Si1v3RfaNg

11-26-2008, 02:30 PM

You guys are awesome with your big avatars.

lol baby faces pwn all

Aaron

11-26-2008, 04:34 PM

thhe clash arent bad aaron you be trippin
Nah I don't rate them at all. It's the whole poor musicianship and bad dynamics... Songs are alright written, but they butcher them. How can you screw up your own songs? lol.

kitsch

11-26-2008, 04:39 PM

london calling is the best punk album of all time.
it may not sound punk
but they play all kinds of music with teh "punk" attitude,
aggressive that is

everything else they did kinda blows tho

Si1v3RfaNg

11-26-2008, 06:29 PM

their so good on that album, i think i like it cuz its so groovy and jazzy.

Aaron

11-26-2008, 07:29 PM

Have you ever heard jazz?

big80smullet

11-26-2008, 07:51 PM

The Clash were ground breaking from 1977 through 1982. They were a punk band in 77 but evolved into a brilliant band for their time.

Now it's hard to compare them but they were amazing when I was a kid.

Now, I know most have a limited understanding of punk as a musical genre versus "punk" as a retarded way of life, so when you say "they're not punk" is it because of their lack of 3 chord harmony or is it because they inspired a whole offshoot of music in the same vein as what Velvet Underground did for indie rock?

to me they just dont sound like punk music as i know it. theyre definetly v v good and inflential i just dont hear the punk. Like the ramones and the sex pistols are both distinctly punk but i dont see how the clash is. The fact that they use more than 3 chords they use off beat struming, they use other intrusments besides the rock 4. they have solos etc

christsimpson

11-27-2008, 12:24 AM

have you realised that rock stars always seem to lie so much?
John Lydon once said he cared but he never really gave a ****
said he'd use the money he made so that people would have somewhere to go
but now he lives in the USA and snorts coke after the show.

why is it that rock stars always seem to lie so much?
Joe Strummer once said he cared, but he never really gave a ****
Said he'd use the money he made to set up a radio station to make the
airwaves full of something more than ****, have you noticed we're still Waiting?

you must realise that rock stars always seem to lie so much
some will always tell you that they care, but they don't really give a ****
still you suckers don't ever learn that rock stars deal in money not truth
it's good Buisiness to exploit you, just look at Lydon or Strummer for proof.

TakeWarning

11-27-2008, 01:19 AM

have You Realised That Rock Stars Always Seem To Lie So Much?
John Lydon Once Said He Cared But He Never Really Gave A ****
Said He'd Use The Money He Made So That People Would Have Somewhere To Go
But Now He Lives In The Usa And Snorts Coke After The Show.

Why Is It That Rock Stars Always Seem To Lie So Much?
Joe Strummer Once Said He Cared, But He Never Really Gave A ****
Said He'd Use The Money He Made To Set Up A Radio Station To Make The
Airwaves Full Of Something More Than ****, have You Noticed We're Still Waiting?

You Must Realise That Rock Stars Always Seem To Lie So Much
Some Will Always Tell You That They Care, But They Don't Really Give A ****
Still You Suckers Don't Ever Learn That Rock Stars Deal In Money Not Truth
It's Good Buisiness To Exploit You, Just Look At Lydon Or Strummer For Proof.

Have you noticed that he's dead?

cbmartinez

11-27-2008, 01:23 AM

one of the best albums of all time, prob top 5 for me

cbmartinez

11-27-2008, 01:26 AM

and dboon put it perfectly, the clash evolved from a punk band into a diverse rock band that made music that can be rightfully placed amongst the best rock songs ever written. but they always pushed the punk/whole 77 thing movement, in the first song on this album with lines like "phony beatlemania has bitten the dust" strummer is saying that the band represents this new punk movement in their ideology

JohnXDoe

11-27-2008, 05:23 AM

the clash are hardly punk. personally i consider them to be classic rock
the Clash were a punk rock band

punk is very diverse musically. it evolved quickly

rock music without limits or borders, take it where you want to

that is punk

christsimpson

11-27-2008, 05:51 AM

Have you noticed that he's dead?

kudos on not recognizing a classic real punk track.

Rhys_A

11-27-2008, 06:47 AM

One of my favourite bands, every genre they touched upon they did it great.

Si1v3RfaNg

11-27-2008, 04:05 PM

Have you ever heard jazz?

yeah I'm quite a big fan of Herbie Hancock, and while I'm not a huge fan of jazz, I still know what it is.

TakeWarning

11-27-2008, 09:49 PM

kudos on not recognizing a classic real punk track.

I recognised it. I was just pointing out that it's not really relevant.

witchxrapist

11-27-2008, 10:22 PM

kudos On Not Recognizing A Classic Real Punk Track.

YOU ARE NOW AWARE THAT PEOPLE MAKE JOKES ON THE INTERNET

xoxo

christsimpson

11-28-2008, 12:21 AM

YOU ARE NOW AWARE THAT PEOPLE MAKE JOKES ON THE INTERNET

xoxo

xoxo

Paul H.

11-28-2008, 01:08 AM

London Calling's a classic...DONE

lynch_me

11-28-2008, 06:54 PM

The clash are one of the bands that still remain one of my favorites since I was 13.

Culture Shock

12-02-2008, 11:16 PM

I recognised it. I was just pointing out that it's not really relevant.

The "Rotten to the Core" song seemed relevant to me. Like what the DBoon's Ghost guy said, they were punk in '77 for sure but I think in their evolution as musicians they seemed to lose touch with what they once were.

I'm wondering who really cares though since they were better at writing music then relaying any particular message anyways. For all intensive purposes though, there's no reason why that album can't be categorized as punk.

SkaRabbit

12-03-2008, 07:37 AM

Music evolves. At the time the clash were punk. Nuff said.

Joe Strummer was a legend and a great guy and having worked with strummerville i have to say he left a great legacy and made a great contribution to music.

DBoons Ghost

12-03-2008, 08:23 AM

The clash are one of the bands that still remain one of my favorites since I was 13.

This, except I was 11 or so.

I still love them and listen to them. I find myself enjoying obscure tracks off Sandinista to this day that I didn't like when I was a teenager.

It just goes to show. I am not a huge fan of certain tracks off Combat Rock for example, but Straight to Hell, Atom Tan and Ghetto Defendant carry it well enough.

There is no band like the Clash, and there will never be another band like the Clash, though Rancid tried pretty hard.

The UK debut album left enough of a bread crumb trail to see where the band would evolve to, and reggae, dub and first wave ska was always music of revolution, and as far as breaking down boundaries regardless of popular or what the record label wanted the band to market demographically, The Clash always marched to the beat of their own drum and made the music they wanted to, and that epitomizes the ideaologies of street music straight from the heart.

UndeadX

12-04-2008, 06:10 PM

The Clash aren't so much punk as they are pop-punk. It's definitely great music though!

PunkItUp

12-04-2008, 07:24 PM

The Clash aren't so much punk as they are pop-punk. It's definitely great music though!
pop punk?

do not make me school this entire thread!!

because i'll do it! :angry:

lynch_me

12-04-2008, 09:41 PM

Defending labelz!

UndeadX

12-04-2008, 09:44 PM

pop punk?

do not make me school this entire thread!!

because i'll do it! :angry:

Please, do school.

DBoons Ghost

12-05-2008, 08:13 AM

Please, do school.

I prefer to leave you to your ignorance.

If someone else wants to waste energy replying I am all for it.

Though, since a lot of posts in here are joke posts, tell me you're joking!

I mean I'd ask you to elaborate but I fear you're one of those idiots who make it up as they go along and really know very little about the genre on a whole.

vishtaco

12-25-2008, 08:40 PM

I don't have the exact quote, but Joe Strummer once said one of the most frustrating things about punk was that it was supposedly about breaking away from the norm and doing your own thing, yet the minute you changed your music everybody attacks you for not being punk anymore. He said punk shouldn't be about strict guidelines, it's about freedom.

JohnXDoe

12-26-2008, 01:52 AM

joe strummer was right and thats why the clash were a great punk rock band

TakeWarning

12-26-2008, 03:45 AM

but guyz they weren't a punk band lols

JohnXDoe

12-26-2008, 04:02 AM

yeah they were classic rock like journey and foreigner and shi....

we are just trying to rewrite musical history for the sake of musics or w/e :'(

guns_of_brixton

12-26-2008, 03:42 PM

I'm a huge fan of everything they ever did... even the bizarre stuff on the last two sides of Sandinista. London Calling might not be "punk" to some people, but those people need to dig into it a little deeper. London Calling is an example of what punk can be: as in it doesn't have to sound like the Sex Pistols/Ramones/Buzzcocks/etc...

PunkItUp

12-27-2008, 07:16 PM

people just need to read more and as you said "dig a little deeper." it amazes me how many people in this forum have so little perspective about a genre of music they claim to love and admire. yet they want to stick it in a little box and say what it is and isn't. lots of things aren't "punk." but the Clash cannot be counted among those things

dig deeper, do some reading, and learn the history of rock n roll and you will have a new understanding of punk and all things related. otherwise poopty doo

IgniteYourAvail

12-27-2008, 07:22 PM

dig deeper, do some reading, and learn the history of rock n roll and you will have a new understanding of punk and all things related. otherwise poopty doopunk isn't about reading bro, it's about throwing bowling balls at ice cream trucks and knocking down trash cans.

PunkItUp

12-27-2008, 07:36 PM

yeah that too :)

TakeWarning

12-27-2008, 09:01 PM

punk isn't about reading bro, it's about throwing bowling balls at ice cream trucks and knocking down trash cans.

Until someone else does it. Then it's a trend.

|~Iceb0x~|

12-28-2008, 01:57 AM

A fun fact about the clash.

The main guitar part to Straight to Hell is also the main part to MIA- paper planes.

NOW YOU KNOW!!!

guns_of_brixton

12-28-2008, 12:54 PM

A fun fact about the clash.

The main guitar part to Straight to Hell is also the main part to MIA- paper planes.

NOW YOU KNOW!!!

the day i realized that was a sad one. the MIA song is alright, i guess, but i hate seeing geeky white people start dancing when it comes on and yelling "omg! pineapple express!" instead of "omg! joe strummer!"

Ghostfire3

12-28-2008, 02:32 PM

punk isn't about reading bro, it's about throwing bowling balls at ice cream trucks and knocking down trash cans.

I've probably seen this joke used in this forum about 9803247894237 times since I've joined.

But anyway.. I wonder who owns the rights to the songs of The Clash because I'm sure they had nothing but money on their mind when they approved MIA to sample Straight to Hell. Meh, whatever it's a shitty song off of their shittiest album anyway.

|~Iceb0x~|

12-28-2008, 03:32 PM

the day i realized that was a sad one. the MIA song is alright, i guess, but i hate seeing geeky white people start dancing when it comes on and yelling "omg! pineapple express!" instead of "omg! joe strummer!"

Though I think those people are more motivated by the fact that movie has to do with weed which is why they go straight to the pineapple express connection.

I remember when I first played this at the local bar up at college and everyone was going hey this is Paper Planes. And then my friend telling them after I had explained it to him that this is were they got that sound patch from.

I wonder why doesn't cause any controversy as did the who vanilla ice and queen thing did.

doki

12-28-2008, 03:47 PM

ha yea where's actually that bowling ball and ice cream trucks come from

Ghostfire3

12-28-2008, 09:18 PM

Though I think those people are more motivated by the fact that movie has to do with weed which is why they go straight to the pineapple express connection.

I remember when I first played this at the local bar up at college and everyone was going hey this is Paper Planes. And then my friend telling them after I had explained it to him that this is were they got that sound patch from.

I wonder why doesn't cause any controversy as did the who vanilla ice and queen thing did.

Uh, well that would be because M.I.A. sampled the guitar riff with permission from whoever owned the rights to the song I'm sure in exchange for $cashmoneys$ while Vanilla Ice is a talentless moron who stole the bassline of "Under Pressure" and then tried to claim it as his own even though everyone and their motha' knew he clearly jacked it. Oh, yeah and I'm not calling M.I.A. talented either...

vishtaco

12-28-2008, 10:07 PM

I've probably seen this joke used in this forum about 9803247894237 times since I've joined.

But anyway.. I wonder who owns the rights to the songs of The Clash because I'm sure they had nothing but money on their mind when they approved MIA to sample Straight to Hell. Meh, whatever it's a shitty song off of their shittiest album anyway.

Straight to Hell is a much better song live. The version on From Here to Eternity is very good.

But Mick has always been pretty pro-sampling since his days with B.A.D. and now with Carbon/Silicon, so it doesn't surprise me that they allowed MIA to sample it.