for the first time in my life...

[christsimpson]

I *really* wish I was in the US.


Thursday, November 20, 2008


Swing Kids reunion show, its official!!!

Saturday May 9th 2009 at The Glasshouse in Pamona, CA

Burning Fight Book Release and Benefit Show

Unbroken
Swing Kids
Undertow
Jenny Piccolo
Fast Forward
+ 1 More band

NO bands will be paid.

ALL money after expenses will go to charity.

This is a chance to have a great time for good causes. No barricades, No bouncers.

[RetiredAt21]

Holy ****. I'd be more excited for Unbroken tbh.

[christsimpson]

Jenny Piccolo and Swing Kids are my favourites on that list. but the other three are f'ucking awesome as well.

[RetiredAt21]

I bet Scott will be there.

[Feel The Darkness]

I'll be at the Unbroken show in Chicago.

[Gnarmageddon]

brb moving to california

[RetiredAt21]

lol

I'm coming with.

[BuddyBigsby]

This is basically in my town, I'm stoked :D

[wartomods]

stoked on being emotional

[40 oz 2 freedom]

I'd be more excited for Unbroken

Word

[pixiesfanyo]

heard that Groundwork might be the +1 band, but it is doubtful.

also, it seems weird that two Eric Allen bands are playing when he is dead.

[BuddyBigsby]

heard a lot of rumors. wouldn't be surprised if it was trial.

[pixiesfanyo]

i mean it was straight from a dude in groundwork.

[santi3hg]

I would be excited for Unbroken out of that list. Sweet show though.

[christsimpson]

also, it seems weird that two Eric Allen bands are playing when he is dead.

yeah that's weird. I wonder who'll be playing for him and if the same dude'll play both Swing Kids and Unbroken. who played that Unbroken - Eric Allen tribute show?


also - if the +1 band was Antioch Arrow this might just be the best gig ever or something. close at least.

[RetiredAt21]

Antioch Arrow sucks, Groundwork would be way cooler.

[team_racket]

Antioch Arrow arent that bad, but I agree. What I would give to see Swing Kids.

[christsimpson]

Antioch Arrow sucks, Groundwork would be way cooler.

Antioch Arrow is one of the best and most original bands ever. no Antioch Arrow, no decent screamo.

[team_racket]

Antioch Arrow were different and a lot of great bands stemmed from that, but I wouldnt say they were the sole reason good bands existed.

[pixiesfanyo]

yeah, that is the dumbest post i've seen a very long time.

[RetiredAt21]

Antioch Arrow is one of the best and most original bands ever. no Antioch Arrow, no decent screamo.

Dude, come on.

[dogwithoutacollar]

the +1 is actually Mohinder boooyah!

[RetiredAt21]

Are you serious?

[Feel The Darkness]

i guess it's a good thing I don't listen to lameass skramz, and i'll be at the GOOD show in Chicago.

lol.

[Gnarmageddon]

the +1 is actually Mohinder boooyah!

I really, really, REALLY hope you're joking.

[whiteminority]

the +1 is actually Mohinder boooyah!

**** ME SIDEWAYS

f'real?

[BuddyBigsby]

Pretty much what J said, but Undertow is a huge bonus to this show. There will be mosh.

Mohinder? come on guys. I'll find out tomorrow who may play.

[christsimpson]

@whoever bashed me for saying no AA no good screamo - it was part joke. Antioch Arrow still is one of the best ever though.


@BuddyBigsby - moshing is returded.

[team_racket]

If mohinder play I will give away my left testicle.

[RetiredAt21]

If Mohinder play I'll give away someone else's testicle.

[christsimpson]

Jenny Piccolo is so much better. but anyway, it would make sense if Mohinder were there too. and it would definitely be cool. someone needs to tape this show in not awful quality.

[team_racket]

Someone better tape it

[Feel The Darkness]

@BuddyBigsby - moshing is returded.
the only people who say that are the people who would normally get moshed all over at shows.

[iamrockzorz]

who the **** goes to a punk show and stands there?
the mosh is half the fun

[RetiredAt21]

Jenny Piccolo is so much better. but anyway, it would make sense if Mohinder were there too. and it would definitely be cool. someone needs to tape this show in not awful quality.

LOL no they aren't. Mohinder kills Jenny Piccolo.

[dogwithoutacollar]

from a very reliable source, it is Mohinder...but I think everyone would be pissed off if they played...they always destroyed their equipment, pissed anyone off who was in a 5 foot radius of them, never played more than 4 songs and their sets lasted anywhere from 3-5 minutes, they made a lot of enemies on their tour because of this...I thought it was beautiful, but then again, what the **** do I know?

[BuddyBigsby]

@whoever bashed me for saying no AA no good screamo - it was part joke. Antioch Arrow still is one of the best ever though.


@BuddyBigsby - moshing is returded.

Says the 110 lb. albino Scandanavian that's making ridiculous statements about an emo band that though they were the cure.

[BuddyBigsby]

from a very reliable source,

Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: smoking weed behind some dumpster
Posts: 2


I guess Mohinder's not impossible but I doubt it. Like I said I will bring legit word tonight if they even know who's gonna play yet.

[christsimpson]

LOL no they aren't. Mohinder kills Jenny Piccolo.

hell no. Justin should join up with Jenny Piccolo and they should definitely play Heavy Metal Weekend.


also saying that moshing is half the fun with punk gigs shows that you've never been to a decent gig. I mean does the band suck or is it just the sound quality? because honestly I see no reason to push people around and be a moron.

oh and yes I would definitely get moshed all over at gigs by

a) poser arseholes who are there to see scenecore crap bands and think they have to mosh to be punk or whatever. but fortunately in Norway, most decent bands are underground. thus the scene kids would go outside and get high or whatever when the real bands played.

or b) bullyrags who think they're tough.

or c) plain and simple arseholes.

[BuddyBigsby]

i'm not going to pretend to read that but lol

U S A

[pixiesfanyo]

Mohinder said they hadn't played in like 16 years and were happy about it last time they got mentioned for a reunion.

[christsimpson]

well Swing Kids, Unbroken and Undertow reunions weren't exactly in the cards either bro.

[christsimpson]

Oh Noez I Like Men I Am So Offended

[Matt?]

i saw trapped under ice recently. there was a lot of mosh and punching and stuff

and man... people into that kind of music

are the biggest tools...

[Matt?]

this show would be fun though. i used to listen to life love regret a lot

[Matt?]

what are some other bands you like? i feel like making some more sweeping generalizations about know nothing neanderthals

[Feel The Darkness]

Oh Noez I Like Men I Am So Offended
word.

Trapped Under Ice rules
most def.

And I've noticed a reemergence of the use of "large bundle of sticks" a lot lately, not too cool either.
I've always been a avid user of that word, even around my gay friends. Maybe it's cause of where I'm from, but even my gay friends are probably tougher than this dweeb, and they're probably the biggest violators of using that word.

:smash:

[BuddyBigsby]

Pat, J... only real dudes in this thread. Sup?

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Full Blown Chaos
Hatebreed
Death Before Dishonor

Among others

[christsimpson]

AHAHAHAHA db4d is the worst band ever. and yuz I really *do* have to say it whenever someone name drops those mother ****ers.

[Matt?]

punk is so gay

[christsimpson]

I listen to more screamo than you probably do christsimpson

maybe. do you want a cookie?

[whiteminority]

it's called making a point chode bag.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Pat, J... only real dudes in this thread. Sup?

Chillin chillin

[whiteminority]

spin kicks are lame as ****.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Stop going to hardcore/punk shows then?

It's nothing new, amigo. Hardcore is aggressive music so it's going to have aggressive crowds.

[christsimpson]

it's called making a point chode bag.

I'll take that as a yes. visit my funny site http://linustorvaldsfacts.tk/ to receive your free cookie. it's a session cookie used by Urchin Tracker to register visits, lenght of stay, etc. owned by Google. did I mention it's free?

[Matt?]

i did stop going to hardcore / punk shows for the most part. you win.

[christsimpson]

i like when people get active at shows. i dig it when people are rushing the mic and stage diving and crowd surfing etc. i dig packed shows with all that stuff.

but it makes me really uncomfortable when people are swinging their fists / kicking etc. it makes you look like a tool, and it makes me have to stand there with my hand out for the whole show. i don't want to get punched in the face or kicked in the groin. i guess i'm just a big large bundle of sticks.

this

[40 oz 2 freedom]

More like you lose.

[whiteminority]

I'll take that as a yes. visit my funny site http://linustorvaldsfacts.tk/ to receive your free cookie. it's a session cookie used by Urchin Tracker to register visits, lenght of stay, etc. owned by Google. did I mention it's free?

mmmk, go listen to gravity bands and talk about how you're so more in touch with your feelings than dudes who like to mosh to blacklisted.

[Matt?]

More like you lose.

whatever. at least i can go to shows and feel like an adult.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Sure thing, maybe one day we'll all grow up and be more like you.

[whiteminority]

i don't want to feel like an adult at shows.

i want to feel like a teen.

[Matt?]

i'm very refined you know

[christsimpson]

mmmk, go listen to gravity bands and talk about how you're so more in touch with your feelings than dudes who like to mosh to blacklisted.

look bro I just don't wanna get hurt at shows. nor do I wanna miss the tunes. violent music does not call for violent behaviour in the crowd. an energetic audience is not the same as an aggressive and violent one. it's bullcrap.

also I prefer How Is Annie when it comes to labels. but Gravity is awesome, no doubt.

[Feel The Darkness]

Pat, J... only real dudes in this thread. Sup?
killin' time at work. listening to Fearless Iranians from Hell.


oh, and to the guy who's an "adult"...**** that.

young til i die.



Oh, and people throwing punches and kicks is your average hardcore show, but it's hardly too violent, really. Until you have to watch your head for flying beer bottles and TVs, you haven't really been to a violent show.

[pixiesfanyo]

making the singer of Graf Orlock bleed is one of the highlights of my life.

[BuddyBigsby]

Um that dude is like 5 feet tall and 130 lbs. wet. Good job?

[pixiesfanyo]

oh okay. sorry,

[iamrockzorz]

If I ever went to a show and people weren't moving, there was a general consensus that it was a bad show. Scramz, emoz, hardcorez, punkz. whatever it is you're into, people ****ing move, its how things go. You little fu'cking canadian twat, if you don't want to get hurt, stand back behind the fu'cking pit and you can enjoy it, but ur missing out on the full experience

[team_racket]

i pulled off a New Balance pirouette once at a show

[Matt?]

hmmmm enjoy myself, or get hurt...

i guess they called the show jackass for a reason

[iamrockzorz]

I was talking more to indietrash kid than you. I think there should be a middle ground, but its not like when people are moving that you can't step back 10 feet away from it. But its ignorant to think that it shouldn't take place.

[christsimpson]

lol I'd rather be ignorant than violent

[iamrockzorz]

cause you're a little canadian twat.

its people like you that i usually aim to throw around first.

punk music is usually written as a complete outburst of expression, emotion, and angst. why shouldn't the shows be like that?

[christsimpson]

woah dude you're like so totally awesome. I'm seriously.


edit:
because hurting people is stupid.

[Matt?]

i guess when i think of expression and emotion i don't think of behaving in a way that is potentially harmful. but i mean at this point it's probably pretty apparent i'm not punk

[christsimpson]

yeah Matt you're pretty emo. hey but anyway this is so off-topic I don't care anymore - I saw a pic of you handling a guitar. d'ya have a band?

[Matt?]

nope. someday...

[christsimpson]

awww. I'm in the early birth of a new band. hopefully not everyone will think it sucks like indietrash. but it'll be more down to earth straight up rock'n'roll I guess.

[Matt?]

i have songs but i'm too busy lounging around to be in a band

[christsimpson]

finding the time is a bitch man. indietrash wasn't really an ordinary band. we played no shows because we lived miles apart, and didn't have the time nor the financial means to get togetha.

but it'll be better this time I guess. living in the city and s'hit.

[Feel The Darkness]

punk music is usually written as a complete outburst of expression, emotion, and angst. why shouldn't the shows be like that?
exactly. punk music is supposed to embody disillusion and aggression, so should the crowd's reaction be tame and docile or angry and violent? I'll take the latter. thanks.

It's not about acting tough or "hard," but sometimes you know someone just doesn't belong there, so they might get chosen as the target of a person's aggression. This is OUR place to get away from shitty people and authority figures, etc etc, so if some dweeb isn't moving or at least visibly feeling the music, then it's the general consensus that he probably doesn't belong. he is the thing we came to the show to escape.

i don't care about unity.

i'm a selfish, self-loathing, piece of ****, but I am at a show to enjoy myself and vent a bit from the past week of dealing with work and stupid people, so too bad.



...self-righteousness aside, there are some people who truly love punk, hardcore, emo, skramz, whatever, who want to just relax and enjoy some not so relaxing music [lolwut?] with friends, and that's fine, but just steer clear of the pit or the front of the stage. it's not a hard concept to grasp...


/finally out of work rant

[iamrockzorz]

this.

maybe you should just stick with that black metal project christ :chug:

[Feel The Darkness]

maybe you should just stick with that black metal project christ :chug:
if he hates violence and anger, he might as well stay outta black metal, too. lol.

[Ill Reality]

but it makes me really uncomfortable when people are swinging their fists / kicking etc. it makes you look like a tool, and it makes me have to stand there with my hand out for the whole show. i don't want to get punched in the face or kicked in the groin. i guess i'm just a big large bundle of sticks.



Then stand at the back of the venue like all the other retards. Are they really the tools if you're the one who keeps standing in the way?


Also, 123 to every post "Feel The Darkness" made in this thread.

[RetiredAt21]

Chicago is too far away. :(

[witchxrapist]

Holy ****. I'd be more excited for Unbroken tbh.

this. also, was the show i was talking about in the mettlecore thread.

if only i had the dollaz to go to chicago/my car wasnt a piece of ****. :(

[RetiredAt21]

Chicago would be a brutal drive.

[witchxrapist]

im probably making it this summer, gonna be ruthless

[RetiredAt21]

what are you going there for?

[witchxrapist]

gonna visit some homies and probably go to cornerstone with them lol

[RetiredAt21]

cool you should get some chicago bud, man

[witchxrapist]

probably, the kid id be going with broke edge finally. probably do shrooms for as cities burns set, that would be amazing.

[RetiredAt21]

The last time I ate shrooms I didn't trip but my friends that ate the same shooms did, it was ****ed up.

[witchxrapist]

probably got duds, that blows haha

[Feel The Darkness]

Chicago is too far away. :(
dude, Justin, stfu. I'm going there from ****ing SOUTH TEXAS.

get your act together!

[BuddyBigsby]

i'm going there from california and that's not bad. dudes are flying in from all over the world. pa is not too far, haha.

[witchxrapist]

when youre broke it is

[Matt?]

Then stand at the back of the venue like all the other retards. Are they really the tools if you're the one who keeps standing in the way?


Also, 123 to every post "Feel The Darkness" made in this thread.

they certainly look like a bunch of losers

[whiteminority]

Basically what J said about the escape, I need this and I don't care if someone doesn't want to get hurt, I'm not into punching bystanders but I'm not going to alter my reaction to make you feel comfortable. Get ****ed.

[RetiredAt21]

when youre broke it is

yerp

[Matt?]

i don't care if people do it really, i just think it's lame and i won't go to as many of those kind of shows anymore because half of the people there are lowbrow losers. no need to lower my IQ to fit in with a bunch of cro-magnons who will talk **** on someone for wearing a collared shirt. am i biased? very. do i care? not really... half the bands f'ucking suck anyways.

[cbmartinez]

i planned on reading all 6 pages of this thread, I got to page 3 and wow, you all are the biggest ****ing tools (except for matt and pat).

[cbmartinez]

jesus christ, tried to read more, you guys are f'ucking mongoloids

[40 oz 2 freedom]

:wave:

[cbmartinez]

thread needs more niko

[RetiredAt21]

yerp

[witchxrapist]

i planned on reading all 6 pages of this thread, I got to page 3 and wow, you all are the biggest ****ing tools (except for matt and pat).

ur cute =^_^=

[whiteminority]

i planned on reading all 6 pages of this thread, I got to page 3 and wow, you all are the biggest ****ing tools (except for matt and pat).

dc hipster

but no cares.

[Matt?]

see you guys at the club... i only want to hear new disco tracks and hot bangers anyways...

sometimes i think this forum is void but at least chris still is a sensible poster

[cbmartinez]

yeah idk hardcore kind of just bores me now, couple albums i can jam and still have nostalgia for because they are legit great pieces of music (give up the ghost, converge, couple emo albums) but yeah new stuff coming out doesn't really keep my attention the way it used to

[TakeWarning]

Hardcore all begins to sound the same after a while.

[witchxrapist]

its a pretty derivative genre, but its mad fun y0.

[Feel The Darkness]

I can prob name 10 current bands that all sound different but are considered hardcore.

it only begins to sound the same when you don't bother finding something new.

[whiteminority]

it only begins to sound the same when you don't bother finding something new.

this

[cbmartinez]

yeah i could see that if you referenced some bands that are like experimenting with the sound, but the bands you guys always hype are just same old thrashy riffing, boring structure, etc.

[witchxrapist]

http://lambgoat.com/news/view.aspx?id=11805

tour of the milenium

and @cbmartinez: youre too picky bro

[cbmartinez]

no i just got tired of listening to the same breakdown over and over again, something that eludes you apparently

[Feel The Darkness]

yeah i could see that if you referenced some bands that are like experimenting with the sound, but the bands you guys always hype are just same old thrashy riffing, boring structure, etc.
what bands do I hype?

I've run a webzine for over 2 years now, and if you ever read the reviews or general updates, you'd know i hype up all sorts of hardcore and punk bands. i like variation.

just sayin'

http://summerseternal.blogspot.com/

[cbmartinez]

no that wasn't directed at you in particular, i meant the forum in general

idk i usually don't really voice my opinion on this matter because like I said, I can respect the genre's appeal because I used to be into it alot and I still appreciate some of the stuff I listened to. but really i think my taste has just moved away so I don't really consider my opinion on anything new within the genre as overwhelmingly pertinent or valid.

[witchxrapist]

no i just got tired of listening to the same breakdown over and over again, something that eludes you apparently

ah of course !!

[christsimpson]

good and original hardcore/screamo: http://www.myspace.com/manhattanbitches

[RetiredAt21]

good and original hardcore/screamo: http://www.myspace.com/manhattanbitches

How is that original? There are hundreds of bands that sound pretty much just like that. Not saying it's particularly bad or anything but that's not what'd I'd call original.

[Feel The Darkness]

no that wasn't directed at you in particular, i meant the forum in general

idk i usually don't really voice my opinion on this matter because like I said, I can respect the genre's appeal because I used to be into it alot and I still appreciate some of the stuff I listened to. but really i think my taste has just moved away so I don't really consider my opinion on anything new within the genre as overwhelmingly pertinent or valid.
oh, word.

[cbmartinez]

basically j, i would fight you any day of the week

[RetiredAt21]

lolololololol

[witchxrapist]

How is that original? There are hundreds of bands that sound pretty much just like that. Not saying it's particularly bad or anything but that's not what'd I'd call original.

jokes :)

[RetiredAt21]

jokes :)

I'm pretty sure he was serious.

[witchxrapist]

his opinion should then be considered a joke

[Feel The Darkness]

basically j, i would fight you any day of the week
oh, word.

[pixiesfanyo]

no that wasn't directed at you in particular, i meant the forum in general

idk i usually don't really voice my opinion on this matter because like I said, I can respect the genre's appeal because I used to be into it alot and I still appreciate some of the stuff I listened to. but really i think my taste has just moved away so I don't really consider my opinion on anything new within the genre as overwhelmingly pertinent or valid.

i'm not saying you are saying this. but, i don't understand the concept of "moving away" from hardcore. usually it tends to be people saying they feel like they are "moving on" because hardcore is too simple or like you said redundant and while the vast majority of the genre is definitely such i still think it is weird to be so enveloped in something and then simply just not care anymore. maybe it actually shows where your loyalties lie. i dunno, i treat hardcore like every genre of music there are obviously going to be good and bad bands.. but hardcore actually has a scene i can tolerate unlike basically any other genre of music.

[Matt?]

that's exactly how i feel. like i moved on... i mean i'll still go to the good shows if they come through town, and i still have friends really into it. but i don't really feel like a part of it anymore. which is fine by me.

[BuddyBigsby]

cb, please refrain from commenting on the current state of hardcore. oof.

just because you were into the tail end of AN and like bleeding through doesn't mean you were ever really into the core bro.

[RetiredAt21]

Bleeding Through LOL. Didn't someone say they were scary looking or something like that?

[iamrockzorz]

good and original hardcore/screamo: http://www.myspace.com/manhattanbitches

no one wants to comment on this?

sorry christ, look into dillinger escape plan - miss machine

this album was already written

[christsimpson]

uh. they don't sound similar at all. Miss Machine is a bit good though. not nearly as good as Manhattan Skyline though.

[iamrockzorz]

epic fail.

listen to white horse vs. panasonic youth.

but you're right it sounds more (exactly) like Sugar Coated Sour.

i just don't see the point

[christsimpson]

I have pretty much everything by DEP. and Manhattan Skyline sound more like The Crinn or Orchid if anything.

[whiteminority]

Bleeding Through LOL. Didn't someone say they were scary looking or something like that?

hahahahaha

[witchxrapist]

Bleeding Through LOL. Didn't someone say they were scary looking or something like that?

seriously the lamest band i have heard in my life

[christsimpson]

band is alright.

[RetiredAt21]

band is alright.

loololololololololololol

[christsimpson]

what? I mean it's not extra-ordinary bad. and definitely not extra-ordinary good.

[RetiredAt21]

Actually I'd say they are extraordinarily bad.

[christsimpson]

meh. only heard couple of tracks. ok mainstream roc... errr metalcore.

[RetiredAt21]

Would you guys do Marta? I would.

[iamrockzorz]

I have pretty much everything by DEP. and Manhattan Skyline sound more like The Crinn or Orchid if anything.

orchid? you're an idiot.
it sounds like average tech-metal screamo

[RetiredAt21]

So tech.

[christsimpson]

orchid? you're an idiot.
it sounds like average tech-metal screamo

awww you are so hardcore

[christsimpson]

sorry christ

Jesus forgives you btw.

[iamrockzorz]

you're so emo

[witchxrapist]

orchid? you're an idiot.
it sounds like average tech-metal screamo

morelike bad gothenburg riffs with invasive keyboards

[RetiredAt21]

LOL I dunno why "invasive keyboards" made me laugh so hard.

[witchxrapist]

the faceless, winds of plague, and abigail williams are in that catagory too... wannabe symphonic death"core" bullshit... so baaaaaaad

[cbmartinez]

to jared: i really didnt mean to imply a sense of moving on, like I said i still jam albums like background music, all our tomorrows end today, my favorite words, from anger and rage and be like "man, I remember really digging this stuff" and hop right back into it and love it. but new stuff just doesnt tend to hold my interest as much for some reason, maybe im just going through a phase of wanting a lot of different sounding stuff considering i listened to this music for so long.

to scott:

idk i usually don't really voice my opinion on this matter because...my taste has just moved away so I don't really consider my opinion on anything new within the genre as overwhelmingly pertinent or valid.

I'm admitting that I'm no one to comment on a genre that i don't find myself listening to very much because I feel like MY personal taste has for the most part expanded

[whiteminority]

Bleeding Through rules, **** all ya'll.

[RetiredAt21]

the faceless, winds of plague, and abigail williams are in that catagory too... wannabe symphonic death"core" bullpoop... so baaaaaaad

An insult to black metal, death metal, metalcore, and music in general.

[flesh]

totally going to this

[RetiredAt21]

You lucky.