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Aaron
10-07-2008, 12:44 AM
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/cancer-victim-sues-over-breast-check/2008/10/07/1223145329149.html


A Sydney woman is suing for damages after breast cancer screening failed to detect that she had the disease.
In a case that could have significant ramifications for cancer screening across the country, Christine Ann O'Gorman, 57, is suing the Sydney South-West Area Health Service after radiologists at its free Breast Screen service allegedly interpreted her mammogram incorrectly.
Ms O'Gorman, a single mother from Moorebank, was not diagnosed with breast cancer until January 2007, after she felt a lump in her left breast while on holidays.
A 2004 mammogram was considered by a radiologist as normal, when it instead showed two rounded masses in her left breast, a statement of claim tendered to the NSW Supreme Court alleged.
As doctors prepared Ms O'Gorman for a mastectomy, a CT scan revealed she had developed lung tumours and later, further tests revealed, brain tumours.
"What the plaintiff faces is an abysmal prospect of a greatly shortened life expectancy," Ms O'Gorman's barrister Tony Bartley, SC, told the court. "She will not recover from the cancers which she has suffered."
Had the breast cancer been identified in 2004, it would have been considered "stage one", an early detection, Mr Bartley said. "A mammogram that she had in 2006 would have been considered a "stage two," he said.
However, when Ms O'Gorman was ultimately diagnosed, her breast cancer had grown to stage three.
He said the brain tumours were a result of the breast cancer spreading, a claim that is denied by the defendants.
The court heard Ms O'Gorman had her breasts checked by Breast Screen almost every two years since 1994.
Mr Bartley said performance standards developed about 2004 dictated that no more than 5 per cent of women should be recalled for second screenings.
He said that radiologists who have since looked at Ms O'Gorman's 2006 screening said it showed "sufficient abnormalities to warrant a recall".
The hearing continues.
Thought I'd use this article to start discussion on litigation. Is this fair? What are people's thoughts?

Sk0rpi0n
10-07-2008, 12:47 AM
When a service is paid for, especially a life saving one (or tit saving one), you'd expect accurate results in order to consider it a quality product. Therefore, I'd say this is reasonable.

Shell
10-07-2008, 01:03 AM
Yeah, I need to get some liability insurance. People are so quick to sue these days.

tbh in that case the defense could make a case that the woman should have been getting mammograms every year instead of every two years, but I don't know that it would have changed anything.

Iscariot
10-07-2008, 01:38 AM
if you're issuing a mammogram aren't you supposed to be able to read the results accurately

Shell
10-07-2008, 01:41 AM
A radiologist reads the mammogram, and he may not even be in the same location as the patient. The radiologist rarely, if ever, completes the actual xray, he just interprets it after it's completed.

When a service is paid for, especially a life saving one (or tit saving one), you'd expect accurate results in order to consider it a quality product. Therefore, I'd say this is reasonable.

well, it did say FREE Breast Screen Service

I guess you get what you paid for :-/

Iscariot
10-07-2008, 01:43 AM
A radiologist reads the mammogram, and he may not even be in the same location as the patient. The radiologist rarely, if ever, completes the actual xray, he just interprets it after it's completed.

ok shouldn't the radiologist be qualified to interpret the results accurately then

it even says in the article that the x-ray revealed two lumps in her breast are they just bringing in people off the street to work the radiology department because i'm pretty sure even i would have spotted that sort of thing

Shell
10-07-2008, 03:33 AM
well yeah the radiologist definitely made a mistake

I wonder if there's more of a story or if it was a strange case, for the woman to have two mammograms and not have the lumps be identified.

Maybe everyone who went to that clinic had their results misinterpreted.

mph4ever
10-07-2008, 04:05 AM
there were some misinterpretations here in ireland at a number of breast screening centres. some women have died as a result. presently it seems that they are going to review the results of lots of screenings and maybe even recall some women for another screening. i had read somewhere that such cases were being associated only with certain centres i.e. failure is local, not widespread

i am sure litigation will follow. its possible that the correct path for litigation is not yet defined.

do you go after the person who screened the tests?
do you go after the hospital/screening centre?
do you go after the local health board?
do you go after the national health executive?
do you go after the government since in ireland they provide health care?
do you go after an insurance company, and if so, who's?

heres a link to the irish stories. it has everything to do with the current situation

http://www.irishtimes.com/search/index.html?rm=listresults&filter=datedesc&keywords=Breast+cancer

Amit
10-07-2008, 04:22 AM
oh noes he made a mistake CRUCIFY THE ****ER

****ing normals

i hope she horribly dies from her tit rot

Aaron
10-07-2008, 04:33 AM
^ that's pretty harsh and elitist.

Shell
10-07-2008, 04:35 AM
oh noes he made a mistake CRUCIFY THE ****ER

****ing normals

i hope she horribly dies from her tit rot

he made the same mistake twice though

Amit
10-07-2008, 04:36 AM
yeah and???

^ that's pretty harsh and elitist.

sue me

Shell
10-07-2008, 04:43 AM
and he sucks at radiology apparently

Amit
10-07-2008, 04:46 AM
you can only know that if you have the statistics of how many hits, false alarms, misses, and correct rejects he's made over the course of his career

Smokey D
10-07-2008, 04:52 AM
That seems like a pretty clear case of medical negligence.

I think it's perfectly acceptable for there to be litigation in chances like this. I can't see why the victim should bear the costs (although of course she will because no matter how much she wins, she's going to die) of a tortfeasor's actions, even if they were only negligently occasioned. And it's not like it's a small error. It seems like a pretty monumental mistake, so I'm not too worried about unfairly punishing relatively innocent parties.

Amit
10-07-2008, 04:54 AM
hey smokey how do you know so much about law and stuff

Smokey D
10-07-2008, 04:56 AM
I'm a law student.

But I wouldn't say I know very much. I just pretend I do and hope no-one calls me out.

Aaron
10-07-2008, 05:27 AM
lol.

I was hoping people'd discuss the topic more generally than this case. Should people be able to sue medical providers for accidental acts? I make mistakes in my job sometimes, but it's not deemed negligent as quickly as someone in the medical profession making a mistake...

Amit
10-07-2008, 05:27 AM
I'm a law student.

ok i'm becoming a law student too then

i heard the lsat is ridiculously easy

But I wouldn't say I know very much. I just pretend I do and hope no-one calls me out.

yeah i figured as much

Smokey D
10-07-2008, 05:35 AM
I was hoping people'd discuss the topic more generally than this case. Should people be able to sue medical providers for accidental acts? I make mistakes in my job sometimes, but it's not deemed negligent as quickly as someone in the medical profession making a mistake...

If you made a negligent mistake which cost someone a lot of money, you could be sued for negilgence. Again the question is why should the completely innocent party suffer the costs of your actions.

Amit
10-07-2008, 05:50 AM
btw is law school hard