Civilization will end this week

[Castillo]

So says this guy:

http://www.myspace.com/totalreality2012

Read the first blog. I lol at it.

[Mr. Ron]

Sweet, now i don't have to worry about my 20 page research paper anymore!

[fruteefly]

oh dude i'm so glad. i didn't waste the money i put into making a defensive bunker. any one/everyone is welcome to come and start a new colony with me.
no one has any idea.
woot.

[mph4ever]

doesn't ron paul's inclusion give it credibility?

[Amit]

oh dude i'm so glad. i didn't waste the money i put into making a defensive bunker. any one/everyone is welcome to come and start a new colony with me.
no one has any idea.
woot.

do i have to have sex with you in order to stay at your defensive bunka

[Castillo]

doesn't ron paul's inclusion give it credibility?

Ron Paul= pretty intelligent. Myspace guy= Batshit crazy.

[Iskandar]

I wonder if people will ever stop talking about Ron Paul.

[Sk0rpi0n]

Do you actually believe this conspiratorial BS? This guy's bias is more evident than the fact that fat people have bitch tits. Just because he makes or references a few good points doesn't make him right in every area. Beware of those who are constantly trying to connect dots that have nothing in common...
(of course though, I'm glad none of you do believe this...the warning is just for those of you who are tempted)

[thedriveinfan]

Beware of those who are constantly trying to connect dots that have nothing in common...

republicans?

[Chu]

Awesome.

[horseypie]

guys dont me dissident

youll be labeled as mentally ill

[guitrguy]

I wonder if people will ever stop talking about Ron Paul.

probably in february

[hismajestythepope]

republicans?

i heard theyre pure ****ing evil

VOTE OBAMA, FALSE PROMISES '08

[Iscariot]

Ron Paul= pretty intelligent

:lol:

[hismajestythepope]

hes a congressman you ****ing idiot

uneducated fools dont just randomly move up in non-blood based political bodies

[Iscariot]

yes they do

[hismajestythepope]

no, they really dont.

[Iscariot]

lieberman

[hismajestythepope]

is far more educated than you are, whats your point?

seriously, when youre above the age of 23 and you still live with your parents, you have ZERO room to talk about others as if theyre uneducated

[Iscariot]

nice troll

bad logic

[hismajestythepope]

not a troll, and you still are so stupid that you still live with your parents

[hismajestythepope]

im not making hilarious and pathetic insults at your personal character

nor am i trolling

im trying to explain to you that you have no room to make fun of others for being stupid or 'uneducated' as your life choices are absolutely retarded

i mean yes, im a tarp, but lol ur i dont grasp politics becuz im not liberal.

[Iscariot]

if you were any more irrelevant you wouldn't exist

if you're too angry to do anything more than insult me maybe you should, i dunno, stop posting in the politics forum where you have no place to speak anyway

[hismajestythepope]

okay cool, youre the one who lives with his parents and doesnt have a job (or do you finally have a job?)

[Iscariot]

none of that matters or requires a response because it has nothing to do with the topic you're just trying to divert attention towards me and away from the fact that you're 3/4 retarded :)

[1338 h4x0r]

A little Google magic:

http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Asputnikmusic.com+%22live+with+my%2 2+Iscariot

(First link)

When I consider the fact that I now have a decent shot of getting into Cornell and, in any case, have skills that will make it easy for me to get a cheap house in Khon Kaen, looking at a sorry dumbshit like Iscariot only redoubles my gratitude

[hismajestythepope]

no youre really stupid because jared doesnt get your sense of humor

see it doesnt matter how high of an education you get, how prestigious of a job you get, this dude who left the military, lives with his parents, and doesnt have a job knows more than you about everything

[Iscariot]

A little Google magic:

http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Asputnikmusic.com+%22live+with+my%2 2+Iscariot

(First link)

When I consider the fact that I now have a decent shot of getting into Cornell and, in any case, have skills that will make it easy for me to get a cheap house in Khon Kaen, looking at a sorry dumbshit like Iscariot only redoubles my gratitude

wait what did i ever do to you

and didn't you get dismissed from this community ages ago

no youre really stupid because jared doesnt get your sense of humor

see it doesnt matter how high of an education you get, how prestigious of a job you get, this dude who left the military, lives with his parents, and doesnt have a job knows more than you about everything

it's funny how you insult me when you're sexually confused, wear women's underwear and show off your dick simultaneously, pretend to be a girl when you're anything but, and whine about boys while bitching about women on a regular basis

but you're smart right

[Chu]

seriously, when youre above the age of 23 and you still live with your parents, you have ZERO room to talk about others as if theyre uneducated
Terrible logic.

[hismajestythepope]

okay maybe i was being to lenient with that post than i shouldve been, but the point still stands that jared (iscariot) is a failure at life and nobody should take what he says seriously
wait what did i ever do to you

and didn't you get dismissed from this community ages ago



it's funny how you insult me when you're sexually confused, wear women's underwear and show off your dick simultaneously, pretend to be a girl when you're anything but, and whine about boys while bitching about women on a regular basis

but you're smart right

wait that proves im unintelligent how?

oh because your mind is too weak to understand the concept of gender dysphoria right.

also, how is somebody so sexist and homophobic a democrat? oh wait because he just wants a $1200 hand out

[1338 h4x0r]

wait what did i ever do to you

and didn't you get dismissed from this community ages ago

I am terribly busy these days but I snipe on request now und then

[hismajestythepope]

u were fucin dismissed bro wtf how u come back

[Iscariot]

btw i'm not over the age of 23 it's hilarious how you pretend to know anything about me when you can't even get my age right

[Chu]

okay maybe i was being to lenient with that post than i shouldve been, but the point still stands that jared (iscariot) is a failure at life and nobody should take what he says seriously
I still don't think you have proven this point.

[hismajestythepope]

btw im not a boy its hilarious how you pretend to know anything about me when you cant even get my gender right

[Iscariot]

I still don't think you have proven this point.

it's jealous, just ignore it

i'm putting it on my ignore list atm so i don't have to read anymore wasteful posts

i don't come to politics for that crap

[hismajestythepope]

im jealous of what? youre ability to remain unemployed or your ability to have no sex life?

[Chu]

You guys totally have a conflict of interest.

Should just agree to disagree.

[1338 h4x0r]

btw i'm not over the age of 23 it's hilarious how you pretend to know anything about me when you can't even get my age right

Yes, but is it true that you are an unemployed stoner who drinks heavily, isn't in school and lives with his parents?

[hismajestythepope]

exactly, i at least have a job and am in school.

[JohnXDoe]

pope you might make some good political points, but you need not be personal in this forum, really. it just weakens your argument

we all have our own opinions and they can all be justified or held up in one quarter or another. maybe you will disagree with some things, but putting people down for their education or lack thereof or social standing is really off the mark. everybody gets to have an idea or opinion. and it doesn't matter how educated you are. i have plenty of friends who are better educated then me and they agree with me on many things. i have some who disagree

no need to get personal here to make a point. maybe in other forums its fun and shi....but in this forum to just go on and on with it beyond a few posts is just sort of....tasteless

and it proves and adds nothing to your argument

imo

[spitfirejunky]

Nacho close this.

[hismajestythepope]

i dont think im personal enough here

[Iscariot]

Yes, but is it true that you are an unemployed stoner who drinks heavily, isn't in school and lives with his parents?

i'm unemployed yes, i am not a stoner i haven't had bud for several months except for the occasional bowl (once every two or three weeks) that a friend treats me too, i don't drink heavily, i'm not in school because i can't get my parents to co-sign my loans and i can't get loans on my own until i'm 26, and i live with my parents because i've had employment problems since i broke my ankle and got discharged from the army

[JohnXDoe]

i dont think im personal enough here
holy cow i'd hate to be here if you ever get on a roll then :(

[hismajestythepope]

:)
i'm unemployed yes, i am not a stoner i haven't had bud for several months except for the occasional bowl (once every two or three weeks) that a friend treats me too, i don't drink heavily, i'm not in school because i can't get my parents to co-sign my loans and i can't get loans on my own until i'm 26, and i live with my parents because i've had employment problems since i broke my ankle and got discharged from the army

so why dont you get a ****ing job and go to a community college?

[1338 h4x0r]

i'm unemployed yes, i am not a stoner i haven't had bud for several months except for the occasional bowl (once every two or three weeks) that a friend treats me too, i don't drink heavily, i'm not in school because i can't get my parents to co-sign my loans and i can't get loans on my own until i'm 26, and i live with my parents because i've had employment problems since i broke my ankle and got discharged from the army

http://www.themadhat.com/images/vader-fail.jpg

[Iscariot]

:)


so why dont you get a ****ing job and go to a community college?

every job i apply for i get ****ing shot down

it's because of my discharge information

instead of using a medical reason (ie, my destroyed ankle), the government chose a route that would cost them less money (no benefits at all) and used my psych record as a reason for dismissal

they let me sit in a doctor's office for four hours waiting for reconstructive surgery on my ankle before they kicked me out of the waiting room and told me "hey change of plans we're going to say you're a nut so we can let you go without having to give you VA benefits bye now"

[Chu]

Yes, but is it true that you are an unemployed stoner who drinks heavily, and lives with his parents?
You just described me...

[Iscariot]

http://www.themadhat.com/images/vader-fail.jpg

not funny

i'm still pissed off three years after the fact that the military basically screwed the rest of my life over

[1338 h4x0r]

Why the hell did you join the Army knowing that they screw their soldiers over on a regular basis?

You just described me...

Yes Matt but you're in school, and in an elite school no less

Anyway I'm really going to bed this time

[hismajestythepope]

he probably joined the army because he couldnt get into schools because hes stupid

err i mean because the army screwed him over and he couldnt get jobs
every job i apply for i get ****ing shot down

it's because of my discharge information

instead of using a medical reason (ie, my destroyed ankle), the government chose a route that would cost them less money (no benefits at all) and used my psych record as a reason for dismissal

they let me sit in a doctor's office for four hours waiting for reconstructive surgery on my ankle before they kicked me out of the waiting room and told me "hey change of plans we're going to say you're a nut so we can let you go without having to give you VA benefits bye now"

so in other words your psych record was the reason for your dismissal but you refuse to admit it in your head?

like, i have a brother whos actually a lot like you; self-pitying, lazy, a little out of touch with reality, quick to offense when somebody makes jokes he doesnt get, etc.

he claims he wasnt let into medical school because he was "out of nowhere" deemed mentally unstable and its really because "he got injured playing football in highschool so he couldnt get a scholarship to a good college and had to go to a community college and the elitists at medical schools wont accept him because his education isnt presigious enough for them"

[Iscariot]

Why the hell did you join the Army knowing that they screw their soldiers over on a regular basis?

because i didn't think it would happen to me

i needed the GI bill for school and i needed the money, badly

so in other words your psych record was the reason for your dismissal but you refuse to admit it in your head?

no, initially my break/physical therapy/extensive bone damage was the reason for my discharge

2 weeks before they discharged me they changed the cause of discharge and my company's XO told me that if i tried to contest it they would issue me a dishonorable discharge and i would be homeless for the rest of my life

[hismajestythepope]

you can still get jobs even if you have a psych record and a military discharge, js (dishonorable would be a different story)

[Dinosawesome]

The best part of that blog were actually the comments.

[Chu]

But that's the point, I'm in school, doesn't necessarily make me educated (at least not yet).

If I wasn't as fortunate as I am (and I really am fortunate), there's no way I would be at university.

For my year 12, I did the UAI (university entrance test), which was weighed against everyone else doing the test, I was the difference in a girl getting 100% and getting 99.98% (I got 48%), I had no interest for education when I was at college, it wasn't until after college I found out I enjoyed something, and wanted to just get better at it, so I committed myself to a hell of a lot of studying and found myself a door into university.

I did nothing for the 3 years after college, I sat around and mootched off my parents.

If Jared had the same opportunities as me, I'm more than sure he would be at university.

Normally, my family probably wouldn't be able to afford the $10k+ it costs for me to attend university each year, however I was in a car accident and received a fairly substantial amount of compensation, which is most definitely a reason I go to university, because I can afford to.
As far as I understand, there's no chance in hell Jared could afford to do so.

So really, what is the difference between me and Jared?
At least after school he did something with himself, it was only in my final year when my Dad asked me to do something with myself that I actually took it seriously and decided to further my education, perhaps Jared just needs the same kick as I got.

Now, I'm not defending Jared here (as much as that can be said), but I fully do not agree that he can be called uneducated, stupid, lazy, or even worse useless.

There are far worse scum on the Earth than Jared could ever hope to achieve (if he wanted to...), he's obviously a smart guy.

[Iscariot]

you can still get jobs even if you have a psych record and a military discharge, js (dishonorable would be a different story)

i know and that's why i don't get why i have such a problem

they start looking into my military record and immediately give me the cold shoulder

i was granted a general under honorable conditions i shouldn't be having this problem but i am

edit: thanks chu

[JohnXDoe]

Yes Matt but you're in school, and in an elite school no less

Anyway I'm really going to bed this time
that really doesn't matter. and i'm sure many know how fortunate they are to attend elite schools and realize not everyone can or qualifies

some of us work the day shifts, the night shifts, and do the civil service work. some make more money then others, higher education, etc.

but we all get to vote, have an opinion, and have ideas that are beyond ourselves. you don't need to be particularity educated or even highly intelligent to have a right to that

we should never let those perceived "above us" hold too much sway over us. because after all, their is always someone above us. no matter who or what you think you are. and sometimes they are wrong

[hismajestythepope]

idk about the 'obviously a smart guy' thing but maybe i was a bit harsh

[hismajestythepope]

i know and that's why i don't get why i have such a problem

they start looking into my military record and immediately give me the cold shoulder

i was granted a general under honorable conditions i shouldn't be having this problem but i am

try shaving your beard and dressing really preppy when you hand in applications/go for interviews

one of my best friends couldnt get a job for like two years and he applied everywhere, even had recommendations from friends, then he was like **** maybe i should shave and blamo first app he handed in he got the job

[Iscariot]

i keep the beard because i have a small chin and it serves well as a prosthetic :upset:

and i can't dress preppy because i can't afford preppy clothes

my jeans have holes in them, my shirts are either hand-me-down flannels or thrift store polos, and i have a pair of run down running shoes and a pair of falling-apart work boots

[JohnXDoe]

shaving our way to a better tomorrow!

[hismajestythepope]

i keep the beard because i have a small chin and it serves well as a prosthetic :upset:
well good luck getting a job without an education if you have a beard

and i can't dress preppy because i can't afford preppy clothes

my jeans have holes in them, my shirts are either hand-me-down flannels or thrift store polos, and i have a pair of run down running shoes and a pair of falling-apart work boots
why dont you wear a pair of shorts and a thrift store polo?

you dont need expensive clothes to dress presentably

[Iscariot]

i down own a pair of shorts

[hismajestythepope]

ok whatever get a pair of dress pants at a thrift store, theyre like $9 tops jesus christ

as mean as you are to me about being tg, its pretty lol that my fashion advice will get you a job (as long as you follow it)

[Iscariot]

ok when i can afford a $9 pair of dress pants i'll do that

my family brings in food stamps and unemployment for a reason tbh

my mom told me she'd love to be able to get me some decent clothes to wear so i could apply for work but she can't even loan me enough money to hit the thrift stores or my younger siblings won't eat for a couple of days

[hismajestythepope]

borrow $9 from a friend to get some pants to apply for a job, im sure you have friends who would be willing to help you out there.

[Iscariot]

my friends all have bills to pay and i would feel like a bottom feeder begging them for money so i could buy clothes

[hismajestythepope]

im sure your friends could scrounge up $9 to help you get a job

and jesus christ how can you be so proud it actually keeps you unemployed?

which is more pathetic? not wanting to borrow money in order to try and get a job for fear that others will think less of you, or borrowing money in order to buy pants for a job interview, getting a job, and paying back your friends in 1-2 weeks?

i mean, if theyre youre friends, they clearly already know that youre poor and dont think less of you because of it

[Iscariot]

i just would rather sell my *** on the street than beg for money

[JohnXDoe]

ok whatever get a pair of dress pants at a thrift store, theyre like $9 tops jesus christ

as mean as you are to me about being tg, its pretty lol that my fashion advice will get you a job (as long as you follow it)
tbh pope the way you sound even if jared gets a job you'd consider him a low wage, undereducated loser who just bitches and whines about everything. yet you sound as if he had one it would plz you and change your opinion of him

however many of your posts would indicate otherwise as you seem to deem the working class of this country "dumb" and "stupid" because they may lack what others have so far as education and money

so why should anyone take your word or advice about how to get a job? it seems people with ideas / politics like yours won't respect that, anyway

its just a "keep your head down, shut up, and work hard" attitude that is somewhat bs when any other ideas the working classes have, political or otherwise, are readily dismissed by those who claim they "know better"

thats kind of crappy tbh

[Chu]

I wonder if you guys (Americans) have an equivalent to our "Community Code" program.

It requires a bit, but it pays off, and you can do the work from home.

Basically, you contribute work to open-source/free software projects (whether it be documentation, translation, coding etc), and it qualifies as "Work for the Dole", I'm not sure how benefits work in America, but at least it's some form of income.

[Iscariot]

i know absolutely nothing about documentation, translation, or coding

these were not things i learned about in school

and anyway we don't have that here as far as i know

[hismajestythepope]

i just would rather sell my *** on the street than beg for money

in other words youre letting pride keep you from getting a job (too small of a chin so you hide it with your beard?)

[JohnXDoe]

I wonder if you guys (Americans) have an equivalent to our "Community Code" program.

It requires a bit, but it pays off, and you can do the work from home.

Basically, you contribute work to open-source/free software projects (whether it be documentation, translation, coding etc), and it qualifies as "Work for the Dole", I'm not sure how benefits work in America, but at least it's some form of income.
nononono chu!

you see here we call that a "government program / handout"

that is vv bad and would SINK the nation :(

even if you work for it...vv bad!

next thing you know we'll be communist!

although it sounds something like our "work for welfare" program. another thing that needs to be abolished!

[hismajestythepope]

well no when people actually contribute to something its different

but you can misinterpret what i said because i basically pointed out that you had no clue what you were blathering about yesterday

[Iscariot]

in other words youre letting pride keep you from getting a job (too small of a chin so you hide it with your beard?)

my beard looks fine and i don't apply for jobs that require a shave anyway

my pride is completely unrelated to my chin

i was raised with the idea that you don't beg for money unless you're starving to death and naked on the street

everyone has financial burdens and it's not fair to add your own to those of the people around you

[JohnXDoe]

well no when people actually contribute to something its different

but you can misinterpret what i said because i basically pointed out that you had no clue what you were blathering about yesterday

i don't have to misinterpret what you say. you say it well enough for even a dumbass like me to understand!

[hismajestythepope]

so in other words youre butthurt? gotcha
my beard looks fine and i don't apply for jobs that require a shave anyway

my pride is completely unrelated to my chin

i was raised with the idea that you don't beg for money unless you're starving to death and naked on the street

everyone has financial burdens and it's not fair to add your own to those of the people around you

its not unfair to ask for a favor from a friend in order to get a job when youre otherwise not going to be able to pay for an education of any sort until your 26

also, lol you were raised by a family that preaches that and yet collects unemployment and foodstamps

im sorry but i think thats really ironic

[JohnXDoe]

my beard looks fine and i don't apply for jobs that require a shave anyway

my pride is completely unrelated to my chin

i was raised with the idea that you don't beg for money unless you're starving to death and naked on the street

everyone has financial burdens and it's not fair to add your own to those of the people around you
no jared you see its "shave, cut your hair, and get a job" time

pope it seems comes from that magical place we call the 1950's and 60's

"CUT YOUR HAIR AND GET A JOB BOY OR GET OUT OF MY HOUSE"

only in this case its applied to government telling you the same thing

because as you know to live in America, we must ALL walk the same path to success

[Iscariot]

my friends are always talking about how they're barely scraping by and how their bills are killing them and they want to go back to school but just can't afford it

it would be completely selfish and unfair for me to ask them for any amount of money that they didn't offer up on their own

and even if they offered it there's a good chance i would turn it down unless i knew i could pay it back

[Iscariot]

no jared you see its "shave, cut your hair, and get a job" time

pope it seems comes from that magical place we call the 1950's and 60's

"CUT YOUR HAIR AND GET A JOB BOY OR GET OUT OF MY HOUSE"

only in this case its applied to government telling you the same thing

because as you know to live in America, we must ALL walk the same path to success

yeah i don't get the whole, "SHAVE OR YOU WILL NEVER GET WORK YAR YAR YAR" mentality

most of my past supervisors had monstrous beards and dressed like scrubs

[JohnXDoe]

my friends are always talking about how they're barely scraping by and how their bills are killing them and they want to go back to school but just can't afford it

it would be completely selfish and unfair for me to ask them for any amount of money that they didn't offer up on their own

and even if they offered it there's a good chance i would turn it down unless i knew i could pay it back
well the only explanation jared is you and your friends are LOSERS

i mean what else could it be? :confused:

shave and all your troubles go buh bye

[hismajestythepope]

no jared you see its "shave, cut your hair, and get a job" time

pope it seems comes from that magical place we call the 1950's and 60's

"CUT YOUR HAIR AND GET A JOB BOY OR GET OUT OF MY HOUSE"

only in this case its applied to government telling you the same thing

because as you know to live in America, we must ALL walk the same path to success

still butthurt i see

im saying that its fishy that he miraculously 'cant find jobs' and also refuses to dress presentably and shave for an interview

totally cant help, definitely not

and nothing is ever jareds fault

and employers clearly hate poor people and refuse to employ them

yeah i don't get the whole, "SHAVE OR YOU WILL NEVER GET WORK YAR YAR YAR" mentality

most of my past supervisors had monstrous beards and dressed like scrubs

note they were supervisors, not managers (the ones who choose who gets hired) or prospect employees (the ones who have to worry about what the management think of their appearance as they dont really know them too well)

of course you could take sound advice and shoot it down because youre too proud whatever

[Chu]

It's not impossible to teach yourself these things though.

I never did a formal class on either until college, and even then it was only 1 class for one term.

However, 4 years later (and for the first 2 and a half really, I did nothing), I'm studying for a Bachelor of Software Engineering, and I got a year off.

As far as documentation goes, you know how to use a program? Basically, just use it and document how you use it, not very difficult at all!

Translation? Well, I didn't think you spoke any other languages, but I threw it in there just in case you did...

Coding is very easy to learn though, monkeys can code.
What is difficult to learn is the design phase, but this sort of comes after you know how to code.

There is plenty of material online if you are interested, there's also a small community here at MX.

I will say, it does require some dedication and self-discipline, but I don't believe it is beyond you Jared (nor anyone for that matter).

[Chu]

nononono chu!

you see here we call that a "government program / handout"

that is vv bad and would SINK the nation :(

even if you work for it...vv bad!

next thing you know we'll be communist!

although it sounds something like our "work for welfare" program. another thing that needs to be abolished!
But the Free Software Organization is literally a charity.
They do not make income, they cannot pay anyone who offers help.
So they have organized a program with the respective government bodies to compensate the people who do work for them, there are some requirements, such as having a mentor to oversea the work gets done and what not.

[hismajestythepope]

chu, dont worry, hes just pissy because i basically made him admit to talking out of his *** for like two pages straight

he claims that because mccain wants to cut taxes by $325 instead of just giving everyone a $1200 rebate mccain apparently wants to raise taxes $800

even if his reasoning there made sense, his math doesnt even add up

Coding is very easy to learn though, monkeys can code.
What is difficult to learn is the design phase, but this sort of comes after you know how to code.
case in point:
http://myspace.com/ :p

[Iscariot]

i'm just realllllly not a tech guy

just using the internet is a shining achievement for me

i mean i know some basic html but that is really the extent of it

i've tried learning more advanced stuff on more than one occasion but it's just not something i grew up being exposed to and it's really hard for me to absorb

i'm more of a number/business oriented person and i'm good with biology which is why i'd really love to pursue something in nursing/medicine

my uncle is an RN and he makes like $30/hr :eek:

@ chu

[hismajestythepope]

how can i get financial aid when you cant one thing i dont get

js

[Iscariot]

well when i was trying to get into a trade school i qualified for a dozen loans including FAFSA but i was still $50k in the hole and in order to cover it i needed my parents to co-sign on a loan from wachovia and they refused to co-sign on absolutely anything because they have enough financial problems as it is

[JohnXDoe]

chu, dont worry, hes just pissy because i basically made him admit to talking out of his *** for like two pages straight
hey at least i can admit it. you talk out your a$$ in every post and can't admit shi.t

[hismajestythepope]

thats not true though because when i get called out to post supporting facts i end up delivering

well when i was trying to get into a trade school i qualified for a dozen loans including FAFSA but i was still $50k in the hole and in order to cover it i needed my parents to co-sign on a loan from wachovia and they refused to co-sign on absolutely anything because they have enough financial problems as it is

thats really shitty man, i feal really bad for being such an asshole, i just really didnt like you cause you always make fun of my gender situation

[Iscariot]

thats really shitty man, i feal really bad for being such an asshole, i just really didnt like you cause you always make fun of my gender situation

i only make fun of you because you're mean to me i don't actually have a problem with your gender situation most of the time i think you're pretty chill

[hismajestythepope]

srry brohammer

[Iscariot]

it's k

at least now you know the truth about my situation

[Chu]

I'd say you simply didn't apply yourself Jared, when I say it's not difficult, it's honestly what I mean.

Computers are inherently simple devices, and the languages we use to drive them reflect this, what can be done can be considered complex, but in reality, it's lots of incredibly simple operations that amount to whatever.

Now, HTML is not programming, programming follows a very strict logical guideline (and it has to, a computer must be able to carry out the operations, computers are really only capable of the most basic operations, it's just when combined, they do interesting things), HTML doesn't have to follows these guidelines (basically, the HTML interpretor sees your code and can "presumptively" assume what's going to happen next, unfortunately/fortunately [depending on your view] this is a good thing), this could get very confusing, but there is a subtle difference, and you'll just have to take it on a whim, and trust me. - Perhaps if you do decide to look into it, you will discover this yourself, which is (imo) an important understanding in itself.

This is just something I am very passionate about, and trust me, if I can do it with only half a brain, anyone can do it.

[JohnXDoe]

thats not true though because when i get called out to post supporting facts i end up delivering

yes well i used to add a disclaimer to my posts when i first started posting in pnwi. especially for posters like you who stubbornly and blindly make senseless attacks

i really don't think the conversation we had earlier about the economy needed any supported facts. because its just a matter of opinion. i could easily link an article which supported my reasoning, or gone to liberal websites and found a bunch of "facts" to support my "opinion" on taxes and spending

but why? their is more then one way of doing things and one way of running government. we happen to disagree on those ways. and no side is more right or wrong then the other, necessarily. so opinions "supported" by someone else or another entity or a way of study, isn't really needed

i'd much prefer to say what i think based on what makes sense to me. thats how i like doing things here i pnwi.

[Iscariot]

well to be fair chu you are smarter than i am

i'm not calling myself stupid but when it comes to technology you seem to be one of those people who has a natural aptitude for it

i'm much more of a hands on learner

i'm not so great with books, though i can manage

i'm not great with lectures, though i can take notes and understand the concepts well enough

but when i'm actually working on something with my hands i excel

computers are harder for me because it requires a lot of mental work as opposed to hands-on work and i just have always had a really hard time keeping my mind focused on something that i'm not manipulating simultaneously

[hismajestythepope]

I'd say you simply didn't apply yourself Jared, when I say it's not difficult, it's honestly what I mean.

Computers are inherently simple devices, and the languages we use to drive them reflect this, what can be done can be considered complex, but in reality, it's lots of incredibly simple operations that amount to whatever.

Now, HTML is not programming, programming follows a very strict logical guideline (and it has to, a computer must be able to carry out the operations, computers are really only capable of the most basic operations, it's just when combined, they do interesting things), HTML doesn't have to follows these guidelines (basically, the HTML interpretor sees your code and can "presumptively" assume what's going to happen next, unfortunately/fortunately [depending on your view] this is a good thing), this could get very confusing, but there is a subtle difference, and you'll just have to take it on a whim, and trust me. - Perhaps if you do decide to look into it, you will discover this yourself, which is (imo) an important understanding in itself.

This is just something I am very passionate about, and trust me, if I can do it with only half a brain, anyone can do it.


idk if you meant me on that whole html shindig, or jared but i posted myspace as joke because though the designers clearly know how to program to an extent, their graphic work is some of the blandest and least aesthetically **** ive ever seen

and im a graphic designer
yes well i used to add a disclaimer to my posts when i first started posting in pnwi. especially for posters like you who stubbornly and blindly make senseless attacks

i really don't think the conversation we had earlier about the economy needed any supported facts. because its just a matter of opinion. i could easily link an article which supported my reasoning, or gone to liberal websites and found a bunch of "facts" to support my "opinion" on taxes and spending

but why? their is more then one way of doing things and one way of running government. we happen to disagree on those ways. and no side is more right or wrong then the other, necessarily. so opinions, whether "supported" by someone else or another entity or a way of study, isn't really needed

i'd much prefer to tell what i think based on what makes sense to me. thats how i like doing things here i pnwi.
no no no, im talking about the whole "mccain wants to raise taxes by $800 because he wants to cut taxes by $875 less than obama" thing

that was just absolutely retarded, i tend to like you meng, but come on

[Shell]

i'm just realllllly not a tech guy

just using the internet is a shining achievement for me

i mean i know some basic html but that is really the extent of it

i've tried learning more advanced stuff on more than one occasion but it's just not something i grew up being exposed to and it's really hard for me to absorb

i'm more of a number/business oriented person and i'm good with biology which is why i'd really love to pursue something in nursing/medicine

my uncle is an RN and he makes like $30/hr :eek:

@ chu

honestly you should try taking a CNA course and find a job doing that to see if you like that field

although you would probably have to keep your beard at least neatly trimmed for infection control purposes

[Iscariot]

honestly you should try taking a CNA course and find a job doing that to see if you like that field

although you would probably have to keep your beard at least neatly trimmed for infection control purposes

neatly trimmed isn't a problem for me

[Chu]

well to be fair chu you are smarter than i am
I'm not Jared, I just make use with what I have got, which is not as much as you have.

i'm not calling myself stupid but when it comes to technology you seem to be one of those people who has a natural aptitude for it
Trust me, if you had spent anywhere near the same amount of time reading books, you would know a lot more than me. I just don't want to end up doing nothing (or working at mcdonalds etc.), so I have found a drive, a want to learn more.

but when i'm actually working on something with my hands i excel

computers are harder for me because it requires a lot of mental work as opposed to hands-on work and i just have always had a really hard time keeping my mind focused on something that i'm not manipulating simultaneously
I'd say programming is a little from column a, a little from column b in this case.
Before when I said a monkey could code, that is seriously what I meant, coding is really just:
if (a == b) { doSomething(); }
Honestly, you test something, if the result is what you wanted, you can move on, if it's not, you re-iterate and make it what you wanted.

There is no right or wrong, there is infinite ways to do the same thing.

[Shell]

neatly trimmed isn't a problem for me

go for it

if you like being a CNA and you're good at it, you can probably find a workplace who will sponsor you to go to nursing school

[JohnXDoe]

idk if you meant me on that whole html shindig, or jared but i posted myspace as joke because though the designers clearly know how to program to an extent, their graphic work is some of the blandest and least aesthetically **** ive ever seen

and im a graphic designer

no no no, im talking about the whole "mccain wants to raise taxes by $800 because he wants to cut taxes by $875 less than obama" thing

that was just absolutely retarded, i tend to like you meng, but come on
fair enough. i like you too. its never personal with me. good times on the internet. i was also shocked the first time dboon and guitrguy took the piss out of me in this forum

i was like "whatever happened to being Pit 'bros :(

but its a little different here

and yes i am sorry. but at the end of the year when i do my taxes under Barack Obama i would have made several hundred dollars more then i will have with John McCain in the White House. and yes, some will see LOWER taxes. that is where my extra several hundred dollars went. to make up for lower taxes elsewhere

so, if i make $40,000 a year ( i don't atm but i have and will. could be soon if i don't go back to school :) ) AFTER taxes, under Obama that will be roughly $41,200. under McCain it will be $40,325, give or take

on paper, that looks like a tax increase

just sayin' IMO thats what it adds up to.

also i have nothing against paying taxes. just don't try to pull the wool over my eyes while i pay MORE so exxon / mobile can pay less

anyway nice convo we had. i greatly enjoyed it

[Iscariot]

well chu you definitely make it sound easy enough, but it's just not that engaging to me

the whole idea of it seems tedious idk maybe i just have the wrong mindset

i'm not saying i couldn't learn it, but my own reluctance would make it harder

i've always had more of a passion for biology and medicine

go for it

if you like being a CNA and you're good at it, you can probably find a workplace who will sponsor you to go to nursing school

i think this is the route i'm going to take tbqh

my uncle has really turned me onto the idea

even though he was miserable for three years while he busted his *** through nursing school and fought through the exams, he seems really happy now that he's in a comfortable, reliable career doing something he enjoys and i share the same passion for that sort of work

it's probably highly unlikely but if there's a way to go from being an RN to a doctor that would definitely be in my sights as well

[Chu]

idk if you meant me on that whole html shindig, or jared but i posted myspace as joke because though the designers clearly know how to program to an extent, their graphic work is some of the blandest and least aesthetically **** ive ever seen
Nah it was to Jared, just because I sense he had a bad experience with HTML.

I don't know much about MySpace, but I assume it's PHP underneath, which is closer to programming (if not there).

well chu you definitely make it sound easy enough, but it's just not that engaging to me

the whole idea of it seems tedious idk maybe i just have the wrong mindset

i'm not saying i couldn't learn it, but my own reluctance would make it harder

i've always had more of a passion for biology and medicine
No, I get this a lot Jared, it's perfectly understandable.

Just trying to get a point across, if you are interested in something, please don't dwell on the idea, actively go out and find some way to educate yourself on the matter, it was my experience with coding, and I believe it equally applies to any field (except perhaps quantum mechanics...) that if you want to learn something, there is nothing that can hold you back.

You have probably heard that a bit, and may find it a bit cliche, but trust me Jared, I was severely pushed back (try going from a 14 year old, back to a 4 year old, and having to live life as if you were a 14 year old, it gets tough!), so honestly I believe if I can do, there is nothing stopping anyone from anything they feel passionate about.

[hismajestythepope]

well idk much about programming at all, which is funny considering majority of my friends are computer science majors
and yes i am sorry. but at the end of the year when i do my taxes under Barack Obama i would have made several hundred dollars more then i will have with John McCain in the White House. and yes, some will see LOWER taxes. that is where my extra several hundred dollars went. to make up for lower taxes elsewhere

so, if i make $40,000 a year ( i don't atm but i have and will. could be soon if i don't go back to school :) ) AFTER taxes, under Obama that will be roughly $41,200. under McCain it will be $40,325, give or take

on paper, that looks like a tax increase

i really dont get the bolded part lol

because when you put it on paper, neither candidate has been elected and thus if one gets elected, the others plans will never go into action and the tax cuts will be tax cuts regardless
also i have nothing against paying taxes. just don't try to pull the wool over my eyes while i pay MORE so exxon / mobile can pay less
well were mccain and palin elected im pretty sure theyd make an issue that exxon / mobile would charge less for gas in order to reflect the tax breaks

[Iscariot]

No, I get this a lot Jared, it's perfectly understandable.

Just trying to get a point across, if you are interested in something, please don't dwell on the idea, actively go out and find some way to educate yourself on the matter, it was my experience with coding, and I believe it equally applies to any field (except perhaps quantum mechanics...) that if you want to learn something, there is nothing that can hold you back.

You have probably heard that a bit, and may find it a bit cliche, but trust me Jared, I was severely pushed back (try going from a 14 year old, back to a 4 year old, and having to live life as if you were a 14 year old, it gets tough!), so honestly I believe if I can do, there is nothing stopping anyone from anything they feel passionate about.

well thanks buddy i appreciate the encouragement

i'm definitely going to pursue my interest in medicine i just need to get out of this employment slump and get myself into school

[Chu]

well idk much about programming at all, which is funny considering majority of my friends are computer science majors
Heh, don't worry, I have no artistic qualities at all.

An artistic talent is something I am truly jealous of.

Edit:
Even if you can't get into school straight away, just go to your local library, find books! Read!!! Only good will come from it. Search the internet for material etc.
Maybe even go to the local college/university, talk to some professor of the course you're interested in, find out what material would be relevant to your interests.

[Shell]

well chu you definitely make it sound easy enough, but it's just not that engaging to me

the whole idea of it seems tedious idk maybe i just have the wrong mindset

i'm not saying i couldn't learn it, but my own reluctance would make it harder

i've always had more of a passion for biology and medicine



i think this is the route i'm going to take tbqh

my uncle has really turned me onto the idea

even though he was miserable for three years while he busted his *** through nursing school and fought through the exams, he seems really happy now that he's in a comfortable, reliable career doing something he enjoys and i share the same passion for that sort of work

it's probably highly unlikely but if there's a way to go from being an RN to a doctor that would definitely be in my sights as well

do you have anything on your record? :)

also if you're going to work in this field you will have to suck up your pride a bit and get whatever help you need to make sure you're mentally capable of dealing with sick/stubborn people without yelling at them or wringing their necks

nursing school IS tough, but tbh I'd guess that you'd rather spend your time at school/studying than in the house with your parents

[Iscariot]

do you have anything on your record? :)

no

also if you're going to work in this field you will have to suck up your pride a bit and get whatever help you need to make sure you're mentally capable of dealing with sick/stubborn people without yelling at them or wringing their necks

i can deal with people just fine

i vent my frustrations later in my own time

nursing school IS tough, but tbh I'd guess that you'd rather spend your time at school/studying than in the house with your parents

yes exactly

[hismajestythepope]

Heh, don't worry, I have no artistic qualities at all.

An artistic talent is something I am truly jealous of.

idk all of my time and effort seem to be going to waste just because im too shy to promote my stuff all out

this is my primary competition in my area:
http://myspace.com/parkinsondesign
http://myspace.com/consumethemasses

i feel like a dick saying this, but i dont think any of their stuff is very good, and im friends with all of the kids, but everybody goes to those guys. when i used to try to promote myself, people would even turn down my offers to do merch for them because they 'previously worked with parkinson design' etc.

[Shell]

also, I don't think it's really possible to go from nursing to medicine unless you're inherently wealthy... from what I understand, med school isn't exactly something you can work your way through

although maybe by then you would be able to get a loan, idk

[Chu]

By the way, John, pope, Jared, Shell.

Cheers for the chat :D

I like how it started off a feud between pope and Jared, but you guys finally came together at the end.
That is probably what is most awesome about MX really.

[Iscariot]

idk all of my time and effort seem to be going to waste just because im too shy to promote my stuff all out

this is my primary competition in my area:
http://myspace.com/parkinsondesign
http://myspace.com/consumethemasses

i feel like a dick saying this, but i dont think any of their stuff is very good, and im friends with all of the kids, but everybody goes to those guys. people even turn down my offers to do merch for them because they 'previously worked with parkinson design' etc.

both of those sites looks look disgustingly amateur

my old band's site was developed by a good friend of mine for free and his work was leagues more professional than that

[hismajestythepope]

yeah id say im an average gd major freshman, and i dont wanna sound arrogant, but i do the same style of art as brian and it seems like he just kinda slaps designs together for profit

and wow maybe im not friends with brian, he seems to put himself above me with screaming and artwork and im at least on par with him in both respects, and he deleted me from his friends on myspace :(

also, the parkinson design kids are so ****ing cool and nice and so ****ing creative, but yeah they just seem so amateur and nichey
That is probably what is most awesome about MX really.
yeah mx is a sweet board

[Iscariot]

also, I don't think it's really possible to go from nursing to medicine unless you're inherently wealthy... from what I understand, med school isn't exactly something you can work your way through

although maybe by then you would be able to get a loan, idk

yeah like i said i figured it was highly unlikely

it's a pipe dream of mine though

i would love nothing more than to be Dr. Keltz one day

By the way, John, pope, Jared, Shell.

Cheers for the chat :D

I like how it started off a feud between pope and Jared, but you guys finally came together at the end.
That is probably what is most awesome about MX really.

mx brings people together through their differences it's a beautiful thing :')

[Shell]

:group hug:

[Chu]

http://myspace.com/parkinsondesign
I think that site is ****ing hideous, but that could just be my extreme hate for MySpace (which itself is a ****ing hideous site in my opinion).

Don't give up though Jared!
If anything, accept the challenge, as exactly that, a challenge you will one day be able to say you conquered.

That's what life is about, name someone who has a story to tell and didn't get there through a challenge!

[hismajestythepope]

well their main appeal is faux-hardcore kids, and they just love that gaudy ghetto fabulous partly nature themed clashy as **** ****. :/

it sucks because i just really get the feeling that if these kids took a lot more drawing classes and some gd classes theyd be some of the best

and yeah myspace really is hideous, i made my page as minimalistic as possible for that reason... lol maybe the minimalism of my page is why kids dont go to me?

[JohnXDoe]

well idk much about programming at all, which is funny considering majority of my friends are computer science majors


because when you put it on paper, neither candidate has been elected and thus if one gets elected, the others plans will never go into action and the tax cuts will be tax cuts regardless
ok the way i see it is this way. both candidates (and you are right you never know what might happen when either makes it into office) say "we are taking too much money from you. we will give some back"

McCain wants to give back a less amount. now remember, its my / our money already. we worked for it. so McCain gives back X amount of dollars. Obama gives back XXX amount of dollars. McCain gives less, so that is essentially a tax increase. because its not their money to begin with, its mine. and don't forget Obama isn't "raising taxes" on corporations and the wealthy, either. he is simply rolling back the Bush tax breaks. yet they are all screaming HE IS RAISING OUR TAXES. and in debate McCain has accused Obama of "raising" taxes when he simply voted against further cuts. so McCain is using some of MY logic there. its all politics


well were mccain and palin elected im pretty sure theyd make an issue that exxon / mobile would charge less for gas in order to reflect the tax breaks
no, as you know THE MARKET must dictate oil prices. i have NO idea why McCain would seek to give tax breaks to companies who operate in the black to BILLIONS of dollars in profit already. gas prices aren't going to fall, and they aren't going to hire more people

i understand that oil companies make pennies on the dollar for each gallon of gas they sell. and they are entitled to make a profit. but they sell A LOT of gas and those pennies add up . so we would like a few more pennies from them, as well

what Obama wants to do is put roughly $100 more a month in the hands of tens of millions working people. money they can save, invest, and spend back into the economy while government starts a healthcare program, energy program, and starts to make sure its bills are paid. taxing the wealthy or well to do a little more won't hurt us or take jobs away. hell NAFTA did a good enough job of that in the southwest and other places

we will be ok. but obviously rough waters are still with us. i'm willing to take a chance on Barack because i truly believe he will try to do things differently in Washington and actually get things done. things have been pretty sour lately coming from there and the NYSE. maybe we can turn the tide just a little

not because America is terrible. we are great. but we need to so something else now. things need to be a little different. we need leadership that reminds us their is more then one way of sacrificing for your country. and sometimes reaching into your pockets just a little deeper is required. by everyone

i would also like to point out i take part in the "give a box of food" program. so i am charitable, yes. gimme more money and i'll be even more so :)

[hismajestythepope]

idk obamas plans sound too good to be true, and he comes off as ultra-sleaze to me

[Iscariot]

i would also like to point out i take part in the "give a box of food" program. so i am charitable, yes. gimme more money and i'll be even more so :)

personally i would like to thank people like you

my family receives food boxes every month and if it weren't for people like you we would go hungry

[Shell]

My bank account donates a certain amount for every deposit I make to the Children's Cancer Society. Also I donated to St. Jude for the longest time but they stopped sending me the envelopes. :( I need to figure out how to get them to send again.

hey I figured it out :)

[hismajestythepope]

the only charities i pay for are "free" hardcore shows, but im really really scraped for money so i guess i rationalize it as 'being the best i can do.'

[Iscariot]

actually i have to say, i DO NOT MEAN TO SOUND UNGRATEFUL, but some food box providers really have poor screening methods

we've gotten boxes on occasion where more than half of the food expired 6 months earlier

and it's not even canned stuff that's still good regardless, it's things like packed meat and cheeses that really are unfit for human consumption

that makes me :'(

[JohnXDoe]

idk obamas plans sound too good to be true, and he comes off as ultra-sleaze to me
well i hear you there. and as you know i supported Hillary and was slow coming to Barack's side. but he slowly won me over. by his character and who he seems to be

now is he a typical politician? sure. in many ways. but in some ways, no. and thats what i like about him. he is risky. but we take risks here for the country. or at least it seems we used to

so far as the "too good to be true" stuff. that is the younger, more naive, and yes more liberal among us blathering on. no way in hell does life become perfect, everybody has a job, and our nations troubles, w/e they may be, go away. Obama is not a savior, nor is he anything completely new

but the country does want something...a little different and new. its just so. and Barack is a qualified person for Pres who strikes that chord

even McCain caught onto that with his "change" message now and his "outsider, Maverick" stance. but its prolly too little too late for him. Hillary realized the same thing in her campaign, switching to a "change" platform late in the game. and i do believe had the important primaries been later in the race she would have beat him. she won most of the contests late in that game. but it wasn't to be

Barack is the guy, and will be President. in all honesty as a citizen and American i want to try to be with that as much as possible. even if he does make me uncomfortable in some regard

[JohnXDoe]

personally i would like to thank people like you

my family receives food boxes every month and if it weren't for people like you we would go hungry
ty

:-*

[hismajestythepope]

JXD i am now more aware of your political views, and though my opinions differ i will respect you.

but ill probably forget and be a total bitch in the near future out of habit. :)

@jared: holy ****, you have to be kidding. SIX months?

[Chu]

idk obamas plans sound too good to be true, and he comes off as ultra-sleaze to me
I think he's just very confident, and you have to be confident to be a politician, not only just a politician, but a good politician, and a good politician is what the US needs to represent them.

[Shell]

i don't even know what this thread was originally about

[JohnXDoe]

well obviously its about boobs, shell

it all comes back to boobs eventually :smoke:

for they give the milk of life

but thats a whole other thread tbh

ben and jerry ftw

[Chu]

Some guy who made a "prophecy" that the world would end because of the US bailout or some such.

I think >_>

[Iscariot]

@jared: holy ****, you have to be kidding. SIX months?

no joke

we get moldy food on occasion and it's really, really awful when you have to throw out food from a food box because it's past due

[Shell]

so did this guy have hot boobs or what

[Chu]

Probably moobs, not from steroids, just because he ate too much.

[hismajestythepope]

moobs can also come from hormonal issues, klinfelter's syndrome (XXY chromosomes) etc.

just saying

[JohnXDoe]

thats fine chu i'll take it

whatever works :)

[Shell]

John I bet lemons turn you on, don't they?

[Chu]

moobs can also come from hormonal issues, klinfelter's syndrome (XXY chromosomes) etc.

just saying
Yeah, but a guy with far too much time to make "prophecies" about the world ending is most probably fat, and lives in his mother's basement :p

[hismajestythepope]

well yeah i was just saying lol

i dont even know why i said that except maybe that i was skinny when i was younger and still had moobs :(

[JohnXDoe]

John I bet lemons turn you on, don't they?
well....

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/102116/nice_and_juicy

sure :D

[hismajestythepope]

hahahah

[Pop music sucks]

I have a pair of little moobs, they're like, 32 AA or some shi. Which is odd considering I'm 6' and only 138 lbs.

:upset:

[McP3000]

wow you're skinny
you're like almost as skinny as i am