List Reasons Why Traced in Air Rules ITT

[Iluvatar]

1. it is perfect

go

[McP3000]

2. I am buying it

[keyboardmosh]

2. robots

[masscows]

so yeah when are they gonna tour in support of it

[Iluvatar]

I dont care because they will have to play at least 1 Florida show and I will be there IN FULL FORCE

[McP3000]

Reasons why Traced In Air is bad:

1. John Hanson has made over 1000 statuses claiming how awesome it is

[Angmar]

No he hasn't.

[Iluvatar]

I am on my way

[masscows]

I think I like the live version of Evolutionary Sleeper more

the intro in the album version is all staccato and weird

[eliminatorz]

attn cynic you dont need to have some dork growling with everything paul says

[Iluvatar]

attn eliminator stop nitpicking!

[adb]

attn eliminator shut the **** up

[eliminatorz]

attn eliminator stop nitpicking!

idk its not nitpicking when he does it in every song

[McP3000]

No he hasn't.

I am on my way
See!!

[jrowa001]

this album left me wanting a little more out of it. i def enjoyed but felt there couldve been more to it. before i knew it, it was over

[eliminatorz]

needs to be 40 minutes longer tbh

[masscows]

I'd rather have however long this album is of good material than have them **** out an extra 15 minutes of crap for no reason

and this is however long this album is of good material

[Apocalypticon]

better than Focus?

[eliminatorz]

it's more focused

[masscows]

nah but still really good

[Apocalypticon]

I was actually asking which was better, not saying the new one is better. I haven't heard it and don't really care.

[masscows]

and I was answering you saying it's not as good

god ****ing dammit you illiterate canadian

[eliminatorz]

too busy listening to post rock

[keyboardmosh]

oh cool cynic is really

[Iluvatar]

more listenable than focus

[guitrguy]

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[masscows]

more listenable than focus

yeah alot less death metal influence

[Correction]

need this really bad

[keyboardmosh]

np: http://www.streamofconsciousness.net/images/albumcovers/poisonthewell.jpeg

[Iluvatar]

mappy if you dont get out of this thread I will be forced to ask Nick Greer to ban you for flagrant spam

[keyboardmosh]

you are a homosexual

[keyboardmosh]

morelike nick queer

[Daven]

How many songs does this new album have?

[eliminatorz]

eight

[Thor]

the production
the singing
the everything

6/5

[Daven]

meh, i thought i downloaded the album, when i notice the rar only has 3 songs

[Thor]

you got the demo

[Deth]

my internet connection can **** right off

[adb]

meh, i thought i downloaded the album, when i notice the rar only has 3 songs


lolfail

[Thor]

probably the album of the year

[Mr. Ron]

I've...never listened to them.

[eliminatorz]

needs more dark ambient

[Angmar]

I've...never listened to them.

ouch

[Iluvatar]

albums rules

[Angmar]

The first song has fantastic drumming!

[Mr. Ron]

needs more dark ambient

I don't listen to DA a lot. :(

[Angmar]

I do :)

[iarescientists]

okay it is downloaded

[Mr. Ron]

I'll give them a shot. What album do you suggest I listen to first?

[Angmar]

FOCUS

subhuman

[iarescientists]

i haven't started to listen yet but i've decided that i don't like it because that will anger john and that is my ultimate goal in life

[Iluvatar]

listen to Focus first I guess just because it is so "important" but idk Traced in Air is more pleasant at first listen

zach i hate you

[iarescientists]

huzzah!

[Thor]

you need both albums

focus has how could i which is one of the best songs ever written

[guitrguy]

probably the album of the year

nah

[Iluvatar]

I dont count any of R&Ms opinions seriously so

dont mind if I dont take you seriously

[Thor]

i mean there's a handful of other greats out there but i could see this being numero uno

[guitrguy]

I dont count any of R&Ms opinions seriously so

dont mind if I dont take you seriously

cool we have a mutual understanding then. I wouldn't want you to stop sucking on cynic's ****.

[Mr. Ron]

So far they're ok

[Iluvatar]

cool we have a mutual understanding then. I wouldn't want you to stop sucking on cynic's ****.

hostility is unbecoming of you!

[guitrguy]

I'm not being hostile. It's just me harshly saying why I think you guys hold the album in such high regard.

[Mr. Ron]

the "clean" vocals on focus are killing it for me

[Thor]

well it's really really really good

and the vocals on TIA are exponentially better

[Iluvatar]

anything with asterisks is harsh silly boy

and we hold it in high regard because they allow us to sick their dicks I do not compute!

[guitrguy]

It is good and like it, but i think calling it the years best is a bit much.

[Mr. Ron]

I like the guitar work

[Thor]

well what's better? fortress maybe...

[guitrguy]

lol

[Angmar]

This will probably be the album of the year.

And yes I can say that without having finished it.

[Thor]

the last track leaves a bit to be desired but other than that yeah ownage album

[Mr. Ron]

idk this seems like a band i would have to listen to a bunch of times to really get into. The clean vocals are lulz. ****ing mr. roboto

[Iluvatar]

clean vocals are so much better on Traced in Air

btw the last track is so perfect. creates a revolving aspect to that album that is so nice on repeated listenings

[Angmar]

They take a few listens to get used to.

This album has much different clean vox, they're still altered but only very slightly, get it and listen to it a lot and come back to Focus and the vocals will probably bother you a lot less.

[Thor]

hopefully i'll get into it more

right now integral birth, the space for this and the unknown guest are my favorites

[adb]

Integral Birth stuck out the most, probly my favorite

[Iluvatar]

King of Those Who Know is the best song on the album dudes

[Thor]

choosing my favorite song is like choosing between children

but integral birth is the firstborn so it's my current favorite. gotta love that chorus

[adb]

King of Those Who Know is the best song on the album dudes

minus the intro, that song is pretty great

[Angmar]

I will be listening to this album and only this album until I got to sleep.

[Iluvatar]

as any self respecting person would do

[Thor]

It'll probably be the only thing I listen to tomorrow as well.

[Angmar]

Will be burning a copy of this to take with me all over.

And an extra in case the first scratches!

[Thor]

lol cds

ok closing track is better the second time around

[Iluvatar]

its even better the sixth time

[Angmar]

lol cds

Broken Ipods ftl man :(

[adb]

lol ipods

[Thor]

its even better the sixth time
can't wait to get to there, just started my 3rd listen

[Angmar]

I'm partially through my 2nd.

:upset:

[Thor]

NONELITE

jk

[Daven]

Ohh man, this is great. The drumming is amazing, im guessing its sean reinert.

[Angmar]

Sure is, his drumming on this album rules so much.

[Daven]

So far its my favorite part of the album :p


*omg 11 K

[Txus]

Holy ****, seriously, this album is blowing my mind. 4 listens now, soooooooooooooo good!

[Transient]

oh my god i am 14 seconds in and i have already blown my load this album is so good easily album of the millenium so far 10/10

[Iluvatar]

I am wondering who you are

[adb]

ed itt

[Transient]

Okay so I just finished the first track and I take it back, this album is actually really good. :/

[Iluvatar]

oh okay Kasun

[Transient]

:-*

[Txus]

Favorite song so far?

The Space For This and King Of Those Who Know for moi.

[Iluvatar]

The King of Those Who Know is the best

[adb]

The intro of Kings is the only bad part on the whole album, reminds me of j pop, ick

[Angmar]

Nah

[adb]

Yah

[Txus]

It's ****ing great, stfu non elite

[Iluvatar]

the beginning is so perfect

[PIGS(1 different one)]

Basically a perfect album haha

[kattunlover69]

kattunlover69 just heard a couple of cynic's songs and kattunlover69 approves of it (goes off to dl trace in air)

[Altmer]

so this leaked eh

**** I wasn't on during the night but I will have to d/l when I get home from university

[badtaste]

If I found Focus boring, what will I think of this?

[Transient]

You'll like it more.

I felt the same way tbh.

[adb]

yeah I only like a couple songs on Focus, this is better

[McP3000]

Focus is awesome how can you say that?!

[keyboardmosh]

I dont count any of R&Ms opinions seriously so

dont mind if I dont take you seriously

yeah, you have bad taste in metal, for the most part john so its cool

[DBlitz]

listening to it now

great stuff

[keyboardmosh]

it's okay

definitely no heartwork

[eliminatorz]

i love how the genres keep changing for this on rym and they're wrong every tiem

[Apocalyptic Raids]

i'm just wondering what the **** a nunc stans is

[eliminatorz]

"a scholastic term which literally means 'the still now' and the school-men used it to refer to suspension of time in which eternity is present in time"

[Thor]

the beginning is so perfect
the first distorted lead really reminds me of how could i

[Transient]

"a scholastic term which literally means 'the still now' and the school-men used it to refer to suspension of time in which eternity is present in time"


oh ok that makes it far less pretentious

[Thor]

Just started this again after waking up. Just as great as yesterday.

And I like Jom's "soundoff" that's up already. :lol:

[DBlitz]

Yea its pretty much a review but I like your soundoff

"will leave you shitting your paints"

[Thor]

credit goes to chan's none so vile soundoff

[iamthenightmare]

i cant download this until i get home from the university!!

oh well, at least i have the demo

[DBlitz]

but you don't have the album

[Prince of Darkness]

download completed.

here we go.

[Thor]

just fired up round 6, i can't stop

[badtaste]

You'll like it more.

I felt the same way tbh.

yeah I only like a couple songs on Focus, this is better

Sexcellente. If that's good, I might take a chance and wait to buy it.

If it's cheap.

Focus is awesome how can you say that?!

I could never get past "Veil of Maya". It was all I needed to fulfill my Cynic requirements.

[masscows]

well what's better? fortress maybe...

Hornets of the mother****ing Pogrom

[Thor]

Hornets of the mother****ing Pogrom
that's in my top ten definitely.

[Prince of Darkness]

some of the vocals (especially on Evolutionary Sleeper) reminds me of The Mars Volta.

this album rocks. although I do miss the robo vocals...

[Thor]

they're still slightly robotic, they just aren't as ridiculous as they were on veil of maya

[jrowa001]

after a few more listens i really am enjoying this more and im getting more out of it. its around a 4 for me right now.

[Prince of Darkness]

it's a 4 for me as well. The vocals play a much larger role on this album, which is great, but this album needs a Textures.

[HighandDriving]

OH IT LEAKED FUC KING RIGHT!

I'm so stoked that everyone seems to be enjoying it.

[Thor]

Ok there isn't a bad song on here. And Adam's Murmur keeps getting better.

[Kage]

this is sweet but im not going crazy over it

[Prince of Darkness]

I can't stop listening to it.

[Thor]

The drums in Nunc Fluens make me feel like I'm in a jungle.

[Mr. Ron]

hey guy do you like the new release???????????????????????????

????

[Iluvatar]

nah its pretty bad dude

[Thor]

It's the tits with cream tbh

[Apocalyptic Raids]

it's not as good as the key that's for sure.

nocturnus for life

[masscows]

its an 8.5/10 or so

[PIGS(1 different one)]

Am I the only one who thinks the vocals are the best part of the album?

[Thor]

Nope I think that also.

[Shattered_Future]

I like them, they aren't as robotized on this one.

First 2 tracks are awesome.

[pixiesfanyo]

whats up with Amit guesting on 'The Unknown Guest'?

[keyboardmosh]

well what's better? fortress maybe...
Intervals, United Nations, Lost In The Sound Of Seperation, Some Kind Of Cadwallader

[pixiesfanyo]

the differences between this record and United Nations are VAST.

[keyboardmosh]

i did not know this!

regardless, this is okay, while united nations is pure elitery

[eliminatorz]

some dude on rym thinks it sounds like BTBAM lol

[keyboardmosh]

um no it sounds like cave in

[pixiesfanyo]

United Nations plays one riff that entire album and just moves it up or down octave wise.

[keyboardmosh]

and it still sounds better than cynic ever will? why? because ben koller is god.

[pixiesfanyo]

Ben Koller is definitely only playing on like two of those tracks. Or has it been confirmed that he is on the whole album?

[keyboardmosh]

does it matter?

[eliminatorz]

koller then u

[pixiesfanyo]

does it matter?

yes

[keyboardmosh]

false

i dont get how you could make this post

the differences between this record and United Nations are VAST.



and then not even mention algernon cadwallader

[kattunlover69]

wow first listen in and i gave it a 4, could be my second "classic" rating of an album

this record makes me feel hopeless and lost

[keyboardmosh]

also better: the respect issue

[pixiesfanyo]

false

i dont get how you could make this post



and then not even mention algernon cadwallader

i like algernon cadwallader

[eliminatorz]

The drums in Nunc Fluens make me feel like I'm in a jungle.

reminder of the homeland?

[iarescientists]

this is pleasant

[keyboardmosh]

i like algernon cadwallader

and what point does that make? is it not also VASTLY different from cynic?

IS IT NOT?

also the only reason you dont like UN is because you want reiner to make out with you

[iarescientists]

i'm seeing algernon cadwallader in a week ^__^

[pixiesfanyo]

and what point does that make? is it not also VASTLY different from cynic?

IS IT NOT?

also the only reason you dont like UN is because you want reiner to make out with you

true

[adb]

also better: the respect issue

most brutul of 08

[pixiesfanyo]

no actually i was going to agree. you do have some apparent blackness to you.

[masscows]

you know what would be sweet

a shirt with the traced in air design on it. it wouldnt even need the cynic logo to be awesome.

[guitrguy]

i'm seeing algernon cadwallader in a week ^__^

wear your good suit

[Cocaine]

listened to it twice today

it's too short

[Thor]

34 minutes is pretty short yeah

[thomasj12e34]

the death metal vocals on this album are better

[masscows]

length is fine

[Thor]

the death metal vocals on this album are better
they're slightly better, but it's so overshadowed by how much the clean vocals have improved

[Kage]

34 minutes is a sublime length for an album. more bands should write shorter albums

[Cocaine]

I think it was over too soon is all I'm saying. I'm liking it a lot more now that I'm not listening to it on the subway through dinky headphones.

[adb]

it just leaves you wanting more, its over too soon

[Thor]

It could stand to have another song yes, but I don't mind repeating it right after it's over. I've been doing just that all day.

[Eliminator]

a million duuuuuuuuuuuucks!!

[Mr. Ron]

34 minutes is a sublime length for an album. more bands should write shorter albums

idk I think it depends on what kind of music you play

[Txus]

Nadja doing a 34 minute album


pffft!

[guitrguy]

34 minute song maybe.

[Arucard]

I like this alot, a friend introduced me too it, its got a very nice feel to it. I couldn't really compare it to anything really.

[Angmar]

and it still sounds better than cynic ever will? why? because ben koller is god.

lol

[Luc214]

Traced In Air rules because Cynic have stopped sounding awkward.

[keyboardmosh]

i'm seeing algernon cadwallader in a week ^__^

i was planning on seeing them and intronaut two nights in a row in philly last month but then i couldnt get off work because the managers are dykes

seriously, the gay guys who work there are allowed to grow facial hair and have piercings, but if you're straight you're not

[guitrguy]

I would say **** them in the ***, but they would like that.

[Txus]

Where the **** do you work, mappy?

[Cocaine]

Traced In Air rules because Cynic have stopped sounding awkward.

They sound the same.

I don't get this whole OMG FINALLY I CAN LISTEN TO THEM. Okay, there isnt much in the way of robot vocals. So what? The vocals really arent drastically different at all and the core sound is still the same.

[Angmar]

I find it kind of odd that peoples Cynic listening experience can be completely ruined by robot vocals.

[Transient]

I like Traced in Air more because the production is way better.

[Cocaine]

idk, I only listen to the remastered Focus so it isnt as big of a deal

[Txus]

I like it more, Dont know why.

meh, **** it....i hate the robotic vocals and i hear a difference. I probably have my ears wrong or something.

[Cocaine]

Like there's a difference but IMO it's pretty negligible. He's still using an effect.

[PIGS(1 different one)]

The vocals on this album are perfect IMO.

Easily the best album of the year.

Listened to it about 10 times so far today.

3 times in a row at one point.

This album simply owns, definately living up to the hype it's recieving.

[keyboardmosh]

Easily the best album of the year.

lol

[adb]

yeah it's not, doubtful for Top 5 imo

[charlesfishtitz]

i have not listened to this yet

[jrowa001]

its pretty good. its warn off a bit after 4 or so listens.

[PIGS(1 different one)]

It's grown after 10 listens.

For album of the year Enslaved- Verterbrae is another contender for me.

I don't recall any albums grabbing my attention as much as those two did.

[keyboardmosh]

nah neither are that good

[adb]

Shades >>>>>>

mirite

[keyboardmosh]

united nationz und intervalz

[Altmer]

i dunno if this is the best but at least it's like a top5 / top 10 record for this year

[Iluvatar]

you guys are all idiots

[keyboardmosh]

lol pwnt

[beans]

pwnge

[pixiesfanyo]

i dig this record. probably not a top five release for '08 though.

[Transient]

It's good but it's no Off Minor.

[Thor]

This is probably my favorite album this year, dunno what you guys are talking about.

[PIGS(1 different one)]

non elites

[Luc214]

They sound the same.

I don't get this whole OMG FINALLY I CAN LISTEN TO THEM. Okay, there isnt much in the way of robot vocals. So what? The vocals really arent drastically different at all and the core sound is still the same.

no man I love the robot vocals.

And yeah they do sound the same, but idk the songwriting seems tighter this time around to me.

[Thor]

The drums are probably the best part of this album actually. Reinert is the man.

[Daven]

^^123

[badtaste]

Music sounds waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better live. I didn't even recognise Evolutionary Sleeper, even though I had been jizzing over the live performance video a while back.

[Pebster49]

damn this is good, didn't think it would be this impressive. 35 minutes is kinda pushing on being an EP

[masada]

no it isn't

[Thor]

It's about as long as Focus. I mean it's a bit short, but anywhere between 35 and 40 minutes is a good length for an album.

[Angmar]

Yeah seriously people it's only 2 minutes shorter than Focus.

[jebus FX]

heard it once, loved it so I deleted it, don't wanna overplay it too much before it even comes out.

[badtaste]

I deleted it cause it sucks.

[Luc214]

you do have bad taste

except for Claire Danes <3

[McP3000]

Yeah seriously people it's only 2 minutes shorter than Focus.
yeah, ive never cared about length as long as the length fits the sound...and for Cynic, ive always found that a shorter length. Ill find out if I agree with Traced In Air when it comes out.
heard it once, loved it so I deleted it, don't wanna overplay it too much before it even comes out.
this is horrible logic.
I deleted it cause it sucks.
thats a shame. This makes me doubt an album i havent even heard.

[Luc214]

it doesn't suck at all

[Iluvatar]

badtaste is an idiot is the thing you must realize

[McP3000]

i wouldn't know

its just discouraging to hear people delete it from their itunes regardless of what others say.

[badtaste]

you do have bad taste

except for Claire Danes <3

I'm waiting for the 150x150 potential before I install a Slipknot gif avatar :lol:

thats a shame. This makes me doubt an album i havent even heard.

Nah, just doesn't tickle my fancies, I'd say I'm in the minority.

[HighandDriving]

Does anyone like this more then Focus, I don't think I do.

[Thor]

The vocals and drums are better on the new album, but as far as bass and straight up sick riffs, I'm gonna have to go with Focus.

It's too early for me to say which one I like more though

[Det_Nosnip]

To be honest...

...


So far, I'm extremely dissapointed. :( The vocals are kind of annoying and the bass is waay too low in the mix. Nothing really stands out like it did on Focus...

[masscows]

To be honest it rules

[Cocaine]

To be honest...

...


So far, I'm extremely dissapointed. :( The vocals are kind of annoying and the bass is waay too low in the mix. Nothing really stands out like it did on Focus...

I sort of had this feeling the first few times I listened to it (on the Subway which didnt help) but the more I listened the more I liked it.

[jrowa001]

im taking a break from this album since its worn off quite a bit. hopefully in a few months it will sound fresh in my mind

[Thor]

To be honest...

...


So far, I'm extremely dissapointed. :( The vocals are kind of annoying and the bass is waay too low in the mix. Nothing really stands out like it did on Focus...
Wait, do you like the vocals on Focus more? If so, weird.

I do agree that the bass is far too low, that's actually my only real gripe with the album.

[Det_Nosnip]

Mmm no not necessarily, but they didn't bother me. There seemed to be alot more DM growling on Focus, whereas on this it's almost all cleans. He just sticks to the high end waaay too much...it starts sounding really samey after a while.

[McP3000]

No death growls?

weak ****

[rattlehead42147]

so far after listening twice i have to say that Traced in Air is excellent but not what i hoped for. i wish cynic would have incorporated more death metal elements and not gone a bit soft, as we can all admit they did (compared to focus). tymons growls are awesome i have to say, but i'm not digging on paul's singing as much as i'd like too and that's my main complaint. the robo vox seem less "alien" and more passive than on focus and that was a huge disappointment. the direction of the album in general is less "focused" and certain parts like the tribal chanting on "the unknown guest" are pretty much unnecessary imo. i plan on listening a lot more and hopefully this will grow on me as i listen/understand it more.

4/5 atm

[masada]

No death growls?

weak ****

uh what


also cynic were pretty bad at straight death metal

the robo vox seem less "alien" and more passive than on focus and that was a huge disappointment. yeah they aren't bad on the new one i dont like it at all

and certain parts like the tribal chanting on "the unknown guest" are pretty much unnecessary imo why doesnt it make you want to hop on the next ship to the homeland

[HighandDriving]

The sort of put Tymons vocal output on the back burner, maybe Paul wanted to be center stage.

[Shattered_Future]

I like that though...I never really thought the death growls were really that good with Cynic.

I do agree there is a severe lack of bass volume though. That's one thing that still bugs me even after subsequent listens.

[masscows]

Mmm no not necessarily, but they didn't bother me. There seemed to be alot more DM growling on Focus, whereas on this it's almost all cleans. He just sticks to the high end waaay too much...it starts sounding really samey after a while.

I do not understand these complaints

[Anthracks]

It doesn't rule.

[iamthenightmare]

agreed with masscows. eagle nature was the weakest song on focus, and that was the most metal influenced. The vox on this are so much more inspiring and fit much better, though focus' vox were still amazing.

plus reinert just never stops amazing.

[Iluvatar]

Idiot.

The death metal part of Cynic was always the worst part anyways.

[rattlehead42147]

:lol: there is no "worst part" when it comes to Cynic.
also cynic were pretty bad at straight death metal

why doesnt it make you want to hop on the next ship to the homeland
they never played straight death metal, as you would know from listening to their pre-focus demos, eliminitwit or whoever you are.

ok, 3rd spin and it's all starting to click for me with the exception of a few small sections on The Unknown Guest and Nunc Stans. Bass needs turned up, i agree with whoever said that.

[Txus]

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