A pleasant metaphor

[GUTS]

view the united states government as a business [if you dont already] and george w bush as the CEO. the other branches of government make up the board of directors. Governers are managers of retail outlets, the army are our lawyers, american citizens are the workers in different positions and the result of our work, be it service or goods, is our output. [again, sorry if this is common perception]

Would YOU invest in America? if not, What country would you invest in and why not the country you live in, assuming your an american. [do the same for your nations government if you're not american]

Do you find it strange, or disappointing that in times of economic crisis americans are too scared to invest in their own being?

Do you think the fear in the economy is related to the fear protrayed in the media and government's current doctrine?

[mph4ever]

sure, the media is the new god. they own the pulpit.

[AyatollahKhomeini]

um are you asking us to look at the world
like the stock market?

mos def invest all money in china
great income potential

[Smokey D]

Yes, America would be a good investment. A solid earner, but not a stellar performer. And it's price would already be way too high. It'd be like investing in Microsoft during the dot.com boom. It's likely to keep on making money, but it isn't the best investment if your goal is improvement.

Although the metaphor doesn't really describe America and you haven't really defined profit so it's a little hard to quantify benefit.

[griftadan]

smokey you took this way to seriously

[Smokey D]

I always do.

[griftadan]

i would collaborate with china and europe to organize a hostile takeover, then fire all the workers and sell off the capital to make a sweet 3 tril

[GUTS]

its a serious subject.

The worst possible thing for the media to do in the situation we're in is to claim MELTDOWN!!!! or CRISIS!!!! it just scares investors and the little people into pulling out their life savings, which ****s the situation up even more. right now, people should be throwing money at any and everything they can to help the market rebound.



So you'd abandon your fellow American in order to make yourself money...interesting. Where would you live?

[Iscariot]

wait are you really dumb enough to think that buying stocks improves the situation of any given business

you do realize it's a multi-level problem right and the more people that buy stocks in a failing company = the more people that will lose money

[Sablate McNuff]

its a serious subject.

The worst possible thing for the media to do in the situation we're in is to claim MELTDOWN!!!! or CRISIS!!!! it just scares investors and the little people into pulling out their life savings, which ****s the situation up even more. right now, people should be throwing money at any and everything they can to help the market rebound.



So you'd abandon your fellow American in order to make yourself money...interesting. Where would you live?

But let's be honest, what things are people more inclined to pay for, a new book at Barnes & Noble, or the UFC fight on pay-per-view?

The fact of the matter is, the media, which was earlier stated to be a terrible dictator or hostile Wal-Mart-esque conglomerate merger (or whatever the metaphor was) is still raking it in. If they are mostly to blame for much of American feelings toward the economy and partly to blame for the current state of the American economy, why then are we funding them?

Not really sure why I quoted you for my response, but I did, so shut up and like it. :P

I would invest in Sweden. I am, firstly, a huge proponent of the sciences - specifically in the areas of quantum physics and the research for gravitons, the string theory, alternate universes, particle acceleration, and dark matter. Secondly, I have a hunch they will have a relatively steady economy that will increase over the course of my lifetime. I'm a long-term investor but I don't invest for the max gain because I think the under-the-radar-investing approach yields less attention and fewer short-term investors that will potentially **** up my investment. I also don't like moving up tax brackets.

[griftadan]

you've assigned no way for us to judge whether a country is a "good investment" so i really don't know how anyone could answer seriously. would i loan money to the government? yeah sure treasury bonds are very reliable but i somehow don't htink that's what you were going for

[McP3000]

I wouldn't invest in America like the stock market because its a game of chance and from my family's experience, the house always wins.

[Sablate McNuff]

I wouldn't invest in America like the stock market because its a game of chance and from my family's experience, the house always wins.

I think this guy wins the thread.

Somebody get him a f**king cookie. Sheeeyit.

[Surtr]

No, because its a sketchy sounding investment, despite at points in the past clearly doing well.

I'd go with the UK, though its somewhat sketchy too, but I still believe it would be a worth while investment. I wouldn't invest in Canada, my own home country, because simply I don't like it. I don't like our current and likely to remain "CEO" and I dislike what his board of leaders represent most of the time.

[DBoons Ghost]

its a serious subject.

The worst possible thing for the media to do in the situation we're in is to claim MELTDOWN!!!! or CRISIS!!!! it just scares investors and the little people into pulling out their life savings, which ****s the situation up even more. right now, people should be throwing money at any and everything they can to help the market rebound.



So you'd abandon your fellow American in order to make yourself money...interesting. Where would you live?

It's funny you think actual profit or profit earnings reports drive market conditions. This has never been true. The oil prices are a good example of the "psychology" of the market and those in the drivers seat using media panic as a means for profit.

It's a new era in Wall Street. The media panic consistent with a bear market helps a lot of people make a lot of money off the misery and misfortune of others. What is going on is a direct indication of that. People walked away from the subprime debacle millions richer then they were before.

Investing in a failing company usually means you lose your money, not force a rebound or force a bull market.

[Aaron]

VF did you learn to construct sentences without fragments? [ @ Guts]

[DBoons Ghost]

Aww I just got troll baited didn't I.

[McP3000]

Dont feel bad DBoon. Most people you're age dont even know how to minimize program windows, let alone see people trolling them

[DBoons Ghost]

Dont feel bad DBoon. Most people you're age dont even know how to minimize program windows, let alone see people trolling them

Yeah thanks. I feel better. Though it would seem most people your age can't tell the difference between the following words:

Their/There
Your/You're
Then/Than
Clitoris/Clitoris
Ridiculous/Rediculous

So you see, it all balances out.

[GUTS]

you've assigned no way for us to judge whether a country is a "good investment" so i really don't know how anyone could answer seriously. would i loan money to the government? yeah sure treasury bonds are very reliable but i somehow don't htink that's what you were going for

this is how

I would invest in Sweden. I am, firstly, a huge proponent of the sciences - specifically in the areas of quantum physics and the research for gravitons, the string theory, alternate universes, particle acceleration, and dark matter. Secondly, I have a hunch they will have a relatively steady economy that will increase over the course of my lifetime. I'm a long-term investor but I don't invest for the max gain because I think the under-the-radar-investing approach yields less attention and fewer short-term investors that will potentially **** up my investment. I also don't like moving up tax brackets.

I, the thread maker, dont make the rules for who or why you would invest in something. Some invest in a company because they like their policies, most because they thing there is money to be made investing with them, it's your choice.

It's funny you think actual profit or profit earnings reports drive market conditions. This has never been true. The oil prices are a good example of the "psychology" of the market and those in the drivers seat using media panic as a means for profit.

It's a new era in Wall Street. The media panic consistent with a bear market helps a lot of people make a lot of money off the misery and misfortune of others. What is going on is a direct indication of that. People walked away from the subprime debacle millions richer then they were before.

Investing in a failing company usually means you lose your money, not force a rebound or force a bull market.


understood, i really dont know very much about economic systems past highschool economics 4 years ago. im asking questions here, not giving answers.

The reason i would think the worst thing to do is to shout meltdown is because of personal experience. I see banks failing, i see reputable news papers with MELTDOWN in 100 font, i want to pull my savings out. I know from history what that will do and that its the wrong action, but im not sure how many americans know that.

VF did you learn to construct sentences without fragments? [ @ Guts]
looks like you were sick the day that they taught how not to be a douchebag. Not that i give a flying **** about sentence fragments. im posting in a FORUM, im not writing you a professional or acedemic essay. shut up you fat ****er :lol:

[DBoons Ghost]

It's a correction.

Same as 2000 when overinflated stocks drove Nasdaq's average through the roof.

We need 1/3 less investment banks given the current conditions. It's the day of the hedge fund anyway. Hedge funds have no regulatory control, no compliance, no SEC oversight, no Fed oversight. They do what they want. Some of them are holding between 10 and 60 billion in assets. People shouldn't wonder why big bureacratic investment banks fail when these guys are kicking their butts all over the Street.

Pulling money out of a bank is retarded. This isn't the wild west when you feared bank robbers came through Dodge to steal money from an uninsured bank.

[GUTS]

the bank robbers are just hedge funds then? whatever the hell that is...

[DBoons Ghost]

the bank robbers are just hedge funds then? whatever the hell that is...

I wasn't making a metaphor.

I think you're confusing invesment banks with good ol' savings and checking banks. They used to be and are still seperate. See, a place like HSBC for example which is a popular bank, or Citibank or Chase, all have spin off corporations using bank profits to make more profits. They aren't allowed by strict law, to use your money for investments. Not even the interest. Not even the potential interest. They use the pennies they scrape and rob you of with hidden fees to turn a profit, and hire ivy league turds to trade the money, and sometimes they hire brilliant minds from more ivy league schools to create new products on the market, like CDOs and CMOs which are projected interest profits from the equity you might build in your home. You might even have a home equity loan from your mortage broker just in case. Well, the interest you pay is converted into a bill and traded on the open market. This is genius! Amazing! However, when the equity dries up and turns negative the bank who sold you that lovely triple A bill can't pay anyone when you look for the profit so they go belly up like they should.

I think you're confused about banks and their roles.

[Smokey D]

looks like you were sick the day that they taught how not to be a douchebag. Not that i give a flying **** about sentence fragments. im posting in a FORUM, im not writing you a professional or acedemic essay. shut up you fat ****er

No, but I care about them.

[Aaron]

If you can't communicate what you're trying to say in an effective manner, then there's little point in speaking/posting.

ps. I'm not fat. I am not a cat.