queer theory

[Meatplow]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer_theory

Some argue that queer theory is a by-product of third-wave feminism, while others claim that it is a result of the valuation of postmodern minoritizing, that is, the idea that the smallest constituent must have a voice and identity equivalent to all others.

It's clearly a result of third-wave feminism.

[spitfirejunky]

I thought it was simply a result of putting all remarkable sexual identities in the same header.

[Reaganista]

third wave feminism

but why are you making a thread where we criticize a wikipedia article we could make a thread like this for every article on that site

[Meatplow]

third wave feminism

but why are you making a thread where we criticize a wikipedia article we could make a thread like this for every article on that site

because you're a racist

[Otherside]

a double racist in fact

[Meatplow]

It's not to debate the merits of the wikipedia article it is to debate the debate the wikipedia article speaks of.

[Danish]

I'm a proponent of Queer Theory. Clearly, our society has created a binary opposition in terms of sexuality as a means of forcing people to fit into some sort of narrow ideal. As a bisexual man, I know very well that sexuality and sexual identify are not nearly so simple.

Whether the source of this particular theoretical perspective is third-wave feminism or post-modernism is really a non-issue. I think most queer theorists would point to Michel Foucault as the "first" queer theorist. Besides, I would argue that third-wave feminist thought itself is heavily influenced by post-modern social theory.

[Reaganista]

danish we should make out

because you're a racist
im not racist youre australian how could i be racist

[Danish]

danish we should make out

Mmmmm sounds fun. And my partner likes to share! ;)

[McP3000]

This theory is as queer as a three dollar bill

[Reaganista]

this isnt much of a thread someone give it an actual topic

[Mr. Ron]

Sort of off-topic, but this subject reminds me when my father told me that he would disown me if I was gay.

[Reaganista]

i would want to marry u if u were gay

[Mr. Ron]

Him saying that actually is very telling and I lost a huge amount of respect for him.

[McP3000]

my dad said he was very open to the idea of me or my sister being homosexual when we were young and going through puberty.

but then we both turned out straight and he told me he was very relieved.

i laughed

[Mr. Ron]

idk it sort of solidified my opinion that most people over 55 should be put on a ship and sunk.

[McP3000]

nah, they're fun for nostalgia

and paying for my college :)

ilu grandpa

[Reaganista]

dont trust anyone who was over 12 when ET came out

so
no one over 38 i think

[Mr. Ron]

I think 40 is a good number to cut people off at. This point invalidates all points of views and retires you to an island in the south pacific.

[Reaganista]

i cant get behind that because i will always be right irrespective of my age

also dont trust anyone who doesn't remember vividly the sound of a 14.4k dial up modem

[Mr. Ron]

You're too old if you need help using google

/from experiance

[McP3000]

experiance

[Pop music sucks]

The concept of gender and sexuality are social constructs.

[siva_chair]

a double racist in fact

Third wave racist, actually.

[Mr. Ron]

The concept of gender and sexuality are social constructs.

idk, a good part of both men and women are defined by their sexes.

[Reaganista]

people are social constructs

[McP3000]

The concept of gender and sexuality are social constructs.
ive never understood this.

I mean its pretty obvious that one human could have a penis while the other had breasts regardless of the stigma attached from a social construct.

[StreetlightRock]

Because gender =/= sex.

[Mr. Ron]

Of course, but the differing level of hormones, genital identity and so on shapes a person in dramatic ways.

[Smokey D]

It is the interplay of nature and social conditioning that creates identities. For example, there's probably a good section of the self-identified heterosexual population that finds themselves obliquely attracted to the same sex.

[sweboy]

the universe is a social construct

[StreetlightRock]

Yea, probably.

[siva_chair]

Your mom is a social construct

omg lol burn

[Pop music sucks]

ive never understood this.

I mean its pretty obvious that one human could have a penis while the other had breasts regardless of the stigma attached from a social construct.Everything that is labeled as gender or sexuality is an admixture of biologic urges and trying to define those urges through human sociologic terms of heterosexual, homosexual, and everything between. Meaning that it's trying to define an intrinsic thing that can't be clearly defined. Many animals in the wild court the same sex and partner for life. Do they ostracize them because of their biologic urge? They do not because there is no sociologic definition of gay or fag to them.