McCain Picks Sarah Palin

[JohnXDoe]

Who? :confused:


44 year old Alaskan Governor

Took Office in 2006

Kinda pretty

[gregulus]

He wants those bitter Hillary fans.

[Mister_Che]

Probably not going to happen because of her pro-life stance.

So now McCain can't really hit Obama on lack of experience. Well, no he probably will anyway.

[gregulus]

Probably not going to happen because of her pro-life stance.

So now McCain can't really hit Obama on lack of experience. Well, no he probably will anyway.

I bet a lot of those Hillary fans (the one's who now say they are voting for McCain) really don't care.

[Der Übermensch]

Kinda pretty
Yeah, for a 44 yr old politician, not bad at all!

[Mister_Che]

I bet a lot of those Hillary fans (the one's who now say they are voting for McCain) really don't care.

They made up their minds a long time ago. :/

[JohnXDoe]

Yeah, for a 44 yr old politician, not bad at all!
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apparently she has boobs, too :)

so...McCain / Palin....

Hmm....

[DBoons Ghost]

I believe John McCain just made a huge mistake.

This lady has some good baggage! A scandal, ties to the oil lobby which is really no surprise (lol, Alaskan pipeline) and even less experience then Obama.

Is it her stance on energy? Is he going after the environmentally conscious?

There is no way Hillary's voters will vote for a right wing christian nutter who is pro-life. I know for a fact that women will care. They will most certainly care. No way will they vote for a pro-lifer with self serving powermonging scandals at her feet.

Someone's really gotta explain this to me.

[g°®†]

kinda fug, tbqh

[Mister_Che]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12969.html

:lol:

She's going to get torn apart at the VP debates.

[mph4ever]

the hands are a bit of a let down but the goggles make it

anyway, this is just the final nail in obama's coffin. america is ready for a female veep but not for a black president. and the clinton/clinton team would have made a difference to obama's chances. this election, when mccain wins with palin as veep, and also with palin as the next president of america after mccain, will set black politics back 50 years

[Der Übermensch]

kinda fug, tbqh

Objectively yes, but female politicians get graded on their own scale (PM of Ukraine being the 10 benchmark).

[pppoe]

I like that this thread is now about her appearance and not her views and the effect this will have on McCain's shot at becoming president.

[DBoons Ghost]

anyway, this is just the final nail in obama's coffin. america is ready for a female veep but not for a black president. and the clinton/clinton team would have made a difference to obama's chances. this election, when mccain wins with palin as veep, and also with palin as the next president of america after mccain, will set black politics back 50 years


That's an absurd statement. Out touch with reality comes to mind. Out of touch with a lot of things. If American wasn't ready the polls would indicate as much and Obama wouldn't have a (mostly white) following in this.

How are you deducing this is the case outside of reading Steve's asinine posts?

[g°®†]

he's reading his own asinine posts.

[Der Übermensch]

I like that this thread is now about her appearance and not her views and the effect this will have on McCain's shot at becoming president.

She is so unknown I am having trouble finding a good explication on her platform (wiki has very little) so until then, this is all we have to discuss.

[DBoons Ghost]

She's a hard working anti-politics kind of woman. That's one thing she has going for her. Maybe McCain is going to use her work ethic and her anti-Washington stance as fuel for his new vision of Washington. I mean, I dunno.. I am reading about her and I kinda like her no nonsense stance but on the issues she's too far away from me to relate to.

[pate]

As a Republican, I'm happy with this pick. It could have been much worse (Meg Whitman anyone?).

[DBoons Ghost]

As a Republican, I'm happy with this pick. It could have been much worse (Meg Whitman anyone?).

Can you elaborate why you're happy with this pick?

I mean, as a voter on the fence, what can you tell me about her that would sell me?

[pate]

Well, lots of people like Obama becuase he's young (she's younger) and that he's an outsider to Washington (she's more of one).
She's female, so some women who are pissed that Obama didn't pick Hillary as VP could support her.

And I don't think this pick takes the experience argument off the table.
The VP is not the President. I care about the experience of the President.


I think Condi would have been the better woman pick if not for her Bush-ness.

[Mister_Che]

She's female, so some women who are pissed that Obama didn't pick Hillary as VP could support her.

That's a very small group anyway. Obama probably never had their votes.

And I don't think this pick takes the experience argument off the table.
The VP is not the President. I care about the experience of the President.

Not too long ago she didn't even know what the VP did. Read the article I posted.

She's the governor for a state with less than 700,000 people and has held office since 2006. She's currently involved in a scandal that involves her pressuring someone to be fired because someone in the department divorced her sister. Let's not forget the lack of foreign policy experience.

Not the best choice.

[JohnXDoe]

Well, lots of people like Obama becuase he's young (she's younger) and that he's an outsider to Washington (she's more of one).
She's female, so some women who are pissed that Obama didn't pick Hillary as VP could support her.

And I don't think this pick takes the experience argument off the table.
The VP is not the President. I care about the experience of the President.


I think Condi would have been the better woman pick if not for her Bush-ness.
i think you are correct here. Obama picked Biden. safest, most Washington "insider" choice you can make. the Dems eat it up

McCain picks this woman. that has a certain angle. experience means nothing. if that were the case, as said, Obama has very little. so why should McCains VP pick need any. he has it all

she is young, a woman, and her "pro choice" views won't hurt her. she won't be deciding anything about who gets an abortion or not

her ties to oil? well, its the business of Alaska. of course she has ties to oil. some would say thats not such a bad thing

so...on its face...given their is no scandal, she is a good pick. half of it is all about image. if you don't think so, ask yourself how popular Barack would be if he looked more like Patrick Ewing and less like Denzel Washington

[Mister_Che]

McCain picks this woman. that has a certain angle. experience means nothing. If that id the case, as said, Obama has very little. So why should McCains VP pick need any. He has it all

A major point about the VP choice is that they need to take the lead in a moments notice. This is highlighted by the fact that McCain is 72. She is nowhere near ready to take on that role if it calls for it.

She is young, a woman, and her "pro choice" views won't hurt her. She won't be deciding anything about who gets an abortion or not

Yes they will.

if you don't think so, ask yourself how popular Barack would be if he looked more like Patrick Ewing and less like Denzel Washington

Seriously?

[JohnXDoe]

yeah, seriously. if Barack were a very dark skinned black man with a wide nose, thick lips, and perceived threatening stance, his chances would be greatly lessened. its not that he is black...its that he is a non threatening, light skinned black with a Harvard education and a winning smile. he looks good in a suit. we have a rich history with racism. rub us the wrong way....even once...you've got no chance

so...Barack deserves credit in that department. he has beaten those odds. but the fact he IS half white and shares those physical features helps a great deal

and no...the VP will NEVER decide who gets an abortion. and its really not such a big issue anymore. supreme court appointees be damned.....we had "pro life" candidates in the white house for 20 of the last 28 years and a woman's right to choose still exists. thats not likely to change

and yeah, i believe she could take office. i know a lot of smart people who could. she'll learn Washington, sign some papers, work with some people. you don't have to be a genius to be President

obviously.....

[ringworm]

her ties to oil? well, its the business of Alaska. of course she has ties to oil. some would say thats not such a bad thing

yeah, maybe the oil tycoons :lol:

what about us? you know, the people begging for an axe to severe the ties to it and progressively end the need for it instead of taking that one last hit off the crack pipe? nevermind the planet itself which is gagging on our destructiveness

i say good choice mccain

at least now it really does seem like Waterworld, on one side you have the "smokers" and on the other you have the people looking for dry land :)

[g°®†]

tbh, if you ask me, the amount of emphasis people put on abortion is ridiculous. It has very little effect on the economy and THAT is what we should be focusing on. Saving 'accidentally-made' babies won't fix the real estate subprime, or the cost of gas, or fix the job market right now. It's a low level low priority issue that shouldn't be a hot topic in regards to choosing our next president.


What we want from our next president is someone who will address the economical aspects that are pulling our country under and hope they attack them with a good conscience.


:thumb:

[Mister_Che]

yeah, seriously. if Barack were a very dark skinned black man with a wide nose, thick lips, and perceived threatening stance, his chances would be greatly lessened. its not that he is black...its that he is a non threatening, light skinned black with a Harvard education and a winning smile. he looks good in a suit. we have a rich history with racism. rub us the wrong way....even once...you've got no chance

so...Barack deserves credit in that department. he has beaten those odds. but the fact he IS half white and shares those physical features helps a great deal

Umm, he would still have his policies and charisma. Appearance be damned.

and no...the VP will NEVER decide who gets an abortion. and its really not such a big issue anymore. supreme court appointees be damned.....we had "pro life" candidates in the white house for 20 of the last 28 years and a woman's right to choose still exists. thats not likely to change

Obviously not, but that doesn't mean she has no influence. This is an issue that will turn off many voters.

and yeah, i believe she could take office. i know a lot of smart people who could. she'll learn Washington, sign some papers, work with some people. you don't have to be a genius to be President

obviously.....

You don't have to be a genius to be president, but then that makes you a shitty president.

2 years of experience in office
No foreign policy exposure
Center of an investigation where she abused her power

This was not a choice where McCain chose someone who can take the lead when they need to, this is a choice that reflects how desperate he is to win.

[JohnXDoe]

yeah, maybe the oil tycoons :lol:

what about us? you know, the people begging for an axe to severe the ties to it and progressively end the need for it instead of taking that one last hit off the crack pipe? nevermind the planet itself which is gagging on our destructiveness

i say good choice mccain

at least now it really does seem like Waterworld, on one side you have the "smokers" and on the other you have the people looking for dry land :)

we need oil AND alternative energy. we will always need oil. so if we can get whatever LITTLE we need in this "alternative energy" future from ourselves rather then continue to be dependent on (and in turn beholden to) other countries for it its basically win / win for us

oil does a lot more then burn in our cars as fuel and heat our homes. we need it...its here to stay

its a good resource. so lets see if we can't have our cleaner energy and have our own oil, too. whatever we might need

[DBoons Ghost]

The more I think about this and read all I can, I think McCain made a brilliant pick here.

She's a woman.. inexperienced but no more or less then Obama.. her oldest child enlisted in the Army after 9/11.. big win with the patriotic types.. her youngest child, she knew had Downs Syndrome, had the kid anyway.. can't attack her on her pro-life stance with her living the hardship most would outright criticize.. I mean, outside the typical scandal crap, or her lack of care for the Washington bureacrats, she's a pretty solid human being.

Biden would be smart to be careful in a debate. He could lose Obama's support from women should he attack her on any if her personal issues. This woman is a role model to most women, and is a far better human being than Hillary is. She gets stuff done, and has a work ethic Washington has no concept of.

I dunno folks. This one looks like a winnner. Che is correct in that it's a desperate attempt at sure victory. You have to wonder if McCain had anything to do with picking her, or if they get along.. So many questions there.

[JohnXDoe]

i think you're right dboon

Washington outsider, solid citizen...and has done in her life what many would consider "the right thing" even if many might have questions about themselves in the same situation

this pick won't hurt McCain at the very least, and may very well help him with some. the Obama pick was a sideways pick

this....will be interesting

[pate]

2 years of experience in office
No foreign policy exposure
Center of an investigation where she abused her power


Obama has:

4 years of experience in officer higher than Palin
No foreign policy exposure
Several controversies

We can play this game all day. It doesn't matter.

[DBoons Ghost]

I don't like the fact she used her power to get someone fired over personal nonsense though.

I mean, that's the stuff of major scandal in the White House. I know all of them do it, but she got caught.

I want to hate this pick but I just think it's brilliant. Hopefully the media wheels will turn up many holes in her life but who knows. I hate to see that kind of smear but let's see what happens.

[ringworm]

its a good resource. so lets see if we can't have our cleaner energy and have our own oil, too. whatever we might need

i guess you missed the part where any oil that we drill will be sold on the open market?

and is the risk of several spills and the footprint the drills make worth it?

and i guess you missed the part where even mccains party has announced that IF we said yes to drill, right now, it would be 2030 or later before it made an impact?

so where is the win/win for destroying even more land and resources?




this pick won't hurt McCain at the very least
only because most mccain supporters will vote mccain regardless of what he says or does or says then doesnt do tbo

[JohnXDoe]

Obama has:

4 years of experience in officer higher than Palin
No foreign policy exposure
Several controversies

We can play this game all day. It doesn't matter.
yeah. plus Obama recently said he would have boycotted the Olympics in favor of Tibet instead of attending as a Statesman on behalf of America. which would set relations and progress with China back 30 years. and Biden seems to want to start the cold war all over again with russia over Georgia

these things would seem unwise

also, Obama wants to put a basketball court in the white house :/

wonder who would pay for that....

[DBoons Ghost]

I have to say while I think it's a great pick it hasn't change my stance just yet.

[JohnXDoe]

McCain is live on CNN atm

9:21am PST

[Mister_Che]

Biden would be smart to be careful in a debate. He could lose Obama's support from women should he attack her on any if her personal issues. This woman is a role model to most women, and is a far better human being than Hillary is. She gets stuff done, and has a work ethic Washington has no concept of.

He can debate the **** out of her. It's not very wise to call the writer of the Voilence Against Women Act sexist.

Obama has:

4 years of experience in officer higher than Palin
No foreign policy exposure
Several controversies

We can play this game all day. It doesn't matter.

Obama currently has more foreign policy experience than Clinton or Reagan did when they were elected.
Obamas "controversies" don't involve him abusing his power to fire people and aren't under investigation.

[ringworm]

also, Obama wants to put a basketball court in the white house :/

wonder who would pay for that....
you dont really think he was serious do you?
"I hear there's a bowling alley and obviously that hasn't gone too well," Obama told comic Jimmy Kimmel in a satellite interview from Philadelphia on Sunday. "So we're getting rid of the bowling alley and replacing it with a basketball court in the White House."
i could be wrong, but it sounds like he was joshing around with jimmy

[Joe]

It's a little desperate of McCain, I think. She has a solid stance on energy, but otherwise she's just a typical Republican. She did some good things immediately in office because she took over for such an awful administration - something she wouldn't have the power to do because McCain is her boss, which is too bad.

McCain is trying to win over women, but she does have her problems. She's an NRA member. She's pro-life. She supports the gay marriage ban Alaska passed in 1998. She supports capital punishment. So there are some grass-root issues that democratic women generally disagree with her.

But DBoon is right. Biden needs to be careful and very intelligent when it comes to these debates because he can tear her apart, but he has to do it "gentlemanly" because women still care about that, which is kind of funny. I think he'll have a good handle on it - but that's what I'm worried about in the upcoming debates.

[mph4ever]

That's an absurd statement. Out touch with reality comes to mind. Out of touch with a lot of things. If American wasn't ready the polls would indicate as much and Obama wouldn't have a (mostly white) following in this.

How are you deducing this is the case outside of reading Steve's asinine posts?

its only an opinion and it may very well be out of touch with your opinion.
its a soap opera, circus type thing. and you really only take the storyline as serious as that. it really doesn't matter how the vote is spread, it matters what the result will be. mccain is the person who will be president, palin will be his veep.

palin counters just about everything that obama has and also leaves the experience battle between obama and mccain which of course mccain wins everytime. mccain would have had a more difficult battle with an obama/clinton ticket than with obama/biden. now mccain has just gone and trumped obama's nomination speech and spread his net for voters ever wider

there is no risk in this since mccain is centre stage, hes just added someone who appeals to a broader section of society than himself

the gop know what they are doing, the last one to knock them was clinton and we have not seen his like in this campaign

[Mister_Che]

But DBoon is right. Biden needs to be careful and very intelligent when it comes to these debates because he can tear her apart, but he has to do it "gentlemanly" because women still care about that, which is kind of funny. I think he'll have a good handle on it - but that's what I'm worried about in the upcoming debates.

Again, I'd like to bring attention to the fact that Biden wrote this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_Against_Women_Act

So it's safe to say he isn't exactly sexist.

[Joe]

Very true. He can easily win that debate as long as he doesn't say anything stupid. Otherwise he'll have the whole thing.

[Mister_Che]

He should nail her on her celebrity status.

She was in the Ms. Alaska pageant, you know. :rolleyes:

[DBoons Ghost]

its only an opinion and it may very well be out of touch with your opinion.
its a soap opera, circus type thing. and you really only take the storyline as serious as that. it really doesn't matter how the vote is spread, it matters what the result will be. mccain is the person who will be president, palin will be his veep.

I wouldn't so sure about that bolded part. You seem pretty sure and that's kinda funny but ok.


palin counters just about everything that obama has and also leaves the experience battle between obama and mccain which of course mccain wins everytime. mccain would have had a more difficult battle with an obama/clinton ticket than with obama/biden. now mccain has just gone and trumped obama's nomination speech and spread his net for voters ever wider

there is no risk in this since mccain is centre stage, hes just added someone who appeals to a broader section of society than himself

the gop know what they are doing, the last one to knock them was clinton and we have not seen his like in this campaign


I think you underestimate your fellow Americans. McCain appeals very little to anyone who isn't his age. Palin will appeal even less. Pro-life, pro-gun, anti-gay... these are all issues that the small concentration of conservative republicans hold onto but don't you think this ruins McCain's chance at the independants? The on the fence voters who vote purely on issues? He didn't have their vote but now he threw away any chance he had at hoping they would share his vision.

[Joe]

He should nail her on her celebrity status.

She was in the Ms. Alaska pageant, you know. :rolleyes:

And she was a sportscaster for a little while.

Palin will not appeal to Democratic women. The only reason McCain appealed to Democratic women is because they didn't know anything about him and just thought he was a moderate Republican. I did too, once... :(

[JohnXDoe]

ok i'm watching this chick atm

i have changed my mind. this isn't an interesting pick

she is young and unremarkable. she looks 30. like she can be McCains personal secretary. she doesn't seem "Presidential." she will not help McCain

i think he should have picked someone more like him. older, conservative, Washington, male. i don't think this was his pick exclusively. i think he got some bad advice. he should have picked a Washington insider and let it ride, head to head with Barack and Joe

this race is more then ever about McCain and Barack. as it should be. Barack has the energy, youth, and charisma. his campaign is now like a HUGE movement

i'm calling it now. Barack Obama will be the next President of the United States. and as many reservations as i have about that....he has my support :)

[mph4ever]

I wouldn't so sure about that bolded part. You seem pretty sure and that's kinda funny but ok.

i know but it is true

I think you underestimate your fellow Americans. McCain appeals very little to anyone who isn't his age. Palin will appeal even less. Pro-life, pro-gun, anti-gay... these are all issues that the small concentration of conservative republicans hold onto but don't you think this ruins McCain's chance at the independants? The on the fence voters who vote purely on issues? He didn't have their vote but now he threw away any chance he had at hoping they would share his vision.
i don't know enough about the small concentration of conservative republicans except that they pretty much control every aspect of american life with the power of the corporations, and that they are not about to hand responsibility for managing the masses over to obama. that means that they will use the full power at their disposal to ensure a mccain victory lol

[DBoons Ghost]

i know but it is true

Well, since you can predict the future how about tommorrow's lottery numbers? :rolleyes:


i don't know enough about the small concentration of conservative republicans except that they pretty much control every aspect of american life with the power of the corporations, and that they are not about to hand responsibility for managing the masses over to obama. that means that they will use the full power at their disposal to ensure a mccain victory lol


You don't know enough about them yet know they control this country. Amazing.

Democrats aren't rich and in positions of power ever never ever.

Dude, I used to be a registered Republican who voted purely for the sake of my pockets. I understand what you're getting at. However, times they are a changin' my friend. I mean, there are LOT of corporations out there and thanks to the internet and computing most of the bigger ones in that vein that are in power are so far removed from republican conservative politics it's not even funny.

I don't want to interrupt your blissful happy land of ignorance but you're wrong.

Your delusion makes it difficult to have any further discussion. Thanks though!

[JohnXDoe]

She invoked Hillary in name in her speech...

...how manipulative

[Knifeboy]

Again, I'd like to bring attention to the fact that Biden wrote this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_Against_Women_Act

So it's safe to say he isn't exactly sexist.

How exactly does that stop people from being able to call him a sexist?
Since when did the american media care about reality when smearing people?

Obviously he isn't a sexist, but since when did reality matter

[pate]

but don't you think this ruins McCain's chance at the independants?

I think that the majority of voters of any party are casual voters who vote for charisma, looks, party lines, sex, race, and other unimportant things. She helps with that.

[Det_Nosnip]

McCain is a genius. :lol: I must say, particularly right after Biden...this was a pretty good move.

[mph4ever]

Well, since you can predict the future how about tommorrow's lottery numbers? :rolleyes:

You don't know enough about them yet know they control this country. Amazing.

Democrats aren't rich and in positions of power ever never ever.

Dude, I used to be a registered Republican who voted purely for the sake of my pockets. I understand what you're getting at. However, times they are a changin' my friend. I mean, there are LOT of corporations out there and thanks to the internet and computing most of the bigger ones in that vein that are in power are so far removed from republican conservative politics it's not even funny.

I don't want to interrupt your blissful happy land of ignorance but you're wrong.

Your delusion makes it difficult to have any further discussion. Thanks though!
the whole world wants obama to win, my 12 year old wants it, my dad wants it, my dog wants it and we are all from ireland. but judging from afar, looking at past performance and looking at the current president and what he was prepared to do to keep power with the support of corporations and the current administration, then i can't see the american electorate who may actually swing to obama being allowed to. there is just too much at stake

mccain/palin and it won't be left to something as messy as florida either

i just wish obama had turned to the clintons, that would have given him a real credible chance

[stevensonmat2]

too bad the clintons suck

[cobert]

This kind of came out of left field. She's a pretty weak choice, to be honest. Like somebody else said, this really makes McCain look desperate to grab up ex-Hilaryites.

I'd hit it though.

[DBoons Ghost]

I'd hit it though.

Back in the day especially..

http://wonkette.com/219635/gilf-update-gov-sarah-palin-as-miss-wasilla

[Mister_Che]

How exactly does that stop people from being able to call him a sexist?
Since when did the american media care about reality when smearing people?

Obviously he isn't a sexist, but since when did reality matter

Well you're right, people will gladly smear him for attacking Palin, but he still has this in his background as solid evidence that he isn't sexist. It's something, at least.

[ringworm]

Back in the day especially..

http://wonkette.com/219635/gilf-update-gov-sarah-palin-as-miss-wasilla

no doubt :naughty:

and that pic is :lol: all she needs is a black t-shirt, a 74 camaro and a case of beer for the trip to see metallica in concert

[Knifeboy]

Back in the day especially..

http://wonkette.com/219635/gilf-update-gov-sarah-palin-as-miss-wasilla

Is it odd that I think she looks better now

in that picture she looks like a deer that's about to get hit by a truck

[VomitStainedCretin]

McCain: "Look, I can also pick someone who isn't an elderly, white, male Washington type; now all you kidz will see that I iz inda hood with my VP ho".

[Reaganista]

pretty genius overall

i like it because we will now inevitably have either our first woman or black president as a result of this election
since mccain will never surrive four more years and all

[Otherside]

Stupid move by McCain that will without a doubt backfire on him in numerous ways. Biden will destroy her in debates and Obama can pretty much ignore her and be fine, or accuse McCain of being an opportunist pandering to bitter Hillary voters, which is a very small minority after Hilldog's DNC speech.

[Seafroggys]

I admit, she is pretty hot.

Something about the glasses I think.

But yeah, evil conservative bitch woman.

[Reaganista]

o that's right i forgot we're all in partisan mode

grrr this is terrible everything about this decision is bad grrrrr

[Otherside]

oh and lol she's extremely pro-creationism and wants to make it a mandatory class in high school


:hi5: republicans

o that's right i forgot we're all in partisan mode

grrr this is terrible everything about this decision is bad grrrrr

lol tell me how this move is genius in any way other than that it kinda sorta not really gives mccain """"maverick"""" cred

[mph4ever]

a walk in the park

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/26457563#26457563

[TheDMV]

well, other than maverick cred he will stir up interest taking some away from obama after his big speech and the DNC.

[Reaganista]

lol tell me how this move is genius in any way other than that it kinda sorta not really gives mccain """"maverick"""" cred
women now have a difficult decision in what wouldve been a no brainer election had he picked romney

[Otherside]

She's an ice fisherman, a moose hunter and a lifetime NRA member.

She's only served as governor one month longer than Obama's been running for president

She was endorsed in an ad by Senator Ted Stevens, who is now under indictment, and she faces an investigation into the firing of her public safety commissioner; there have been allegations that she sacked him because he refused to fire a state trooper who's involved in a custody battle with her sister.

In June 2007, Palin signed into law a $6.6 billion operating budget—the largest in Alaska's history.

lol

women now have a difficult decision in what wouldve been a no brainer election had he picked romney

Women have always supported the Democrats by a huge margin, and tbh this won't change anyone's minds, she does not hold the same values as female democrats, nor independents.

[DBoons Ghost]

o that's right i forgot we're all in partisan mode

grrr this is terrible everything about this decision is bad grrrrr

Hahahaha..

I love me some Tway.

[pate]

I love this headline:

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/29/palin.republican.vp.candidate/index.html

[TheDMV]

I love this headline:

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/29/palin.republican.vp.candidate/index.html

hahaha scandal erupts

[cobert]

Is it odd that I think she looks better now

in that picture she looks like a deer that's about to get hit by a truck

No, not at all, I'm in that boat with you.

[Otherside]

In an interview just a month ago, she dissed the job, saying it didn’t seem “productive.”

In fact, she said she didn’t know what the vice president does.

wow are people really agreeing with this decision?

[Already_Taken]

we have a rich history with racism.


i hope you meant a history rich with racism, because what you said is detestable.

[earwhig]

most of his posts don't actually make sense

[stevensonmat2]

i hope you meant a history rich with racism, because what you said is detestable.

I thought it was appropriate as said.

[Iscariot]

The VP is not the President. I care about the experience of the President

that's great and all but the idea behind choosing a running mate is that you're choosing someone who would be capable of holding their own as president in the event that something were to happen to the president and they had to take charge

picking someone with a dirty background and less experience than obama isn't really a promising step

[BassRevelation0]

According to what's shown on her records (ontheissues barely has anything else recorded from her) she's a conservative, which proves that McCain strategists do not know how to win an election.

Rule #1: you cannot play base to an ideology. America is becoming more and more independent. Whoever plays base to the centrist arena, wins (swing voters).

[TheDMV]

Yeah, I was just on ontheissues. they don't even have anything recorded for drugs, foreign policy, jobs or immigration. Is anyone elses mind blown by this choice? it just seems like such a ploy to win votes by McCain.

[pate]

That's kind of the point.


wow are people really agreeing with this decision?

Biden dissed the VP as well.

[Otherside]

In fact, she said she didn’t know what the vice president does. In fact, she said she didn’t know what the vice president does. In fact, she said she didn’t know what the vice president does. In fact, she said she didn’t know what the vice president does. In fact, she said she didn’t know what the vice president does. In fact, she said she didn’t know what the vice president does.


?????????????????

[defrabbi3000]

"She's a woman.. inexperienced but no more or less then Obama.. her oldest child enlisted in the Army after 9/11.. "- posted by dboon

hate to point this out mate, but isnt beau biden going to be.... i dunno.... on tour with his unit during the election? so surely that kinda nullifies that. just my 2 pence.

[JohnXDoe]

i hope you meant a history rich with racism, because what you said is detestable.
ok we have a poor history with racism

don't lynch me over grammar :(

[Light Fantastic]

but america does have a rich history with racism

[Hababi]

Sarah Palin is an awesome choice, I absolutely love it. She was my pick, I think she brings the most to the table. She has bucked her own party and led several reforms in Alaska. She gave birth to a child she knew was going to be Down's. She's a great and accomplished person.

Oh, and she has served more days as governor than Barry Obama has in the senate. And is the governor of a state bordering two sovereign countries.

[Otherside]

mccain could have chosen charles manson and you would have made the same post

[Hababi]

mccain could have chosen charles manson and you would have made the same post

not really. I wasn't wild about Romney; I'd have supported it but not as wildly. Palin was my absolute top choice because she is everything Obama claims to be (reformer, bipartisan, etc.)

[Already_Taken]

what about the fact that it's so obviously a ploy to pick her, and she isn't the most qualified person he could have picked? seems childish and UNPROFESSIONAL to me.

[Hababi]

what about the fact that it's so obviously a ploy to pick her, and she isn't the most qualified person he could have picked? seems childish and UNPROFESSIONAL to me.

Wait so you mean McCain is supposed to pick the absolute most qualified person?

Palin is one of the most popular and successful governors in the country.

[Otherside]

*in alaska

[Otherside]

Palin is one of the most popular

LOL

[JohnXDoe]

what about the fact that it's so obviously a ploy to pick her, and she isn't the most qualified person he could have picked? seems childish and UNPROFESSIONAL to me.
same could be said of Obama's choice. very easily. Joe has what Obama is perceived to lack. same with the McCain pick
but america does have a rich history with racism
thats what i thought, too. it may not be a good rich, but we've had plenty to go around!

[Joe]

Wait so you mean McCain is supposed to pick the absolute most qualified person?

Palin is one of the most popular and successful governors in the country.

:lol: No she isn't.

[Permanent Solution]

same could be said of Obama's choice. very easily. Joe has what Obama is perceived to lack. same with the McCain pick

The reversed situation is sort of key though, because in one case the electorate chose the inexperienced guy over the experienced, and he chose someone experienced.

Here, the experienced person was chosen by the electorate, and he chose the inexperienced gal.

[Hababi]

:lol: No she isn't.

hey why you try reading something on it not written by a partisan hack before you comment? Palin's approval rating is around 80%.

[Otherside]

*in alaska

[Mr. Ron]

She's a woman


and therefore a terrible choice


/thread

[Otherside]

hey why you try reading something on it not written by a partisan hack before you comment?

you quote national review be quiet

[Hababi]

*in alaska

oh that's right only states run by democrats matter i forgot :rolleyes:


you quote national review be quiet


You should try reading national review sometime. Many of their authors give very good analysis not necessarily rooted in their idealogical bias.

[Illmatic]

how can she be one of the most successful governors in the country if she's been in office for like 2 years

[Otherside]

i have tried it and its more polarized than fox news dont even try to deny it

phds in journalism does not defy simple bias in any situation

[Mr. Ron]

how can she be one of the most successful governors in the country if she's been in office for like 2 years

She drinks a lot of 5 hour energy

[Hababi]

how can she be one of the most successful governors in the country if she's been in office for like 2 years
wait how many years exactly do you think it takes to be successful? Success is about results, not tenureship.

"He's a great professor"
"No he's not he's only been here 2 years!"

[Mr. Ron]

I judge the success of my professors by the residual amount of dust that has gathered on their tweeds.

[Illmatic]

Success is about results, not tenureship.

exactly, I was asking what she has done in her 2 years.

not that hard of a question to understand

[Mr. Ron]

I heard she cracked down on corruption or something in Alaska.

[Reaganista]

Women have always supported the Democrats by a huge margin,

i know and now they have a more difficult decision than they have in the past

and tbh this won't change anyone's minds,
yes it will it will change some people's minds it's already changed my mind i used to be pro obama now i do not care either way
she does not hold the same values as female democrats, nor
independents.
so
she holds ovaries

Sarah Palin is an awesome choice, I absolutely love it. She was my pick, I think she brings the most to the table. She has bucked her own party and led several reforms in Alaska. She gave birth to a child she knew was going to be Down's.
o i didnt know that if she had a retarded baby that means god hates her we cant elect someone who's been smited

[Illmatic]

I heard she cracked down on corruption or something in Alaska.

idk she seems alright but it doesn't seem like she's done that much

[Reaganista]

that's the same thing i said about obama tbh

[Hababi]

I heard she cracked down on corruption or something in Alaska.

yes.


idk she seems alright but it doesn't seem like she's done that much


Hey I'm just content if you're saying that she seems alright :p

Palin and Jindal are the top two young republicans. To get one of the two on the ticket is phenomenal.

[Reaganista]

u know she's from alaska and he was born in panama that's some ****ed up **** how about pickin somebody who's actually from america

[McP3000]

well this further cemented my idea that this election is going to be preposterously close.

[pate]

Palin and Jindal are the top two young republicans. To get one of the two on the ticket is phenomenal.

Jindal is cool.

[pppoe]

Jindal is a lunatic.

Like all conservatives, of course.

[Joe]

I heard she cracked down on corruption or something in Alaska.

It doesn't take much.

Jindal is mental.

[Hababi]

It doesn't take much.

Jindal is mental.

if by mental you mean mentally gifted (Rhodes scholar), then yes.

[Iscariot]

steve is there any such thing as a bad republican in your eyes

i'm starting to think not

they could be hitler's grandson and married to the ghost of stalin but if they were running on the republican ballot you'd jerk off every time they held a press conference

[Hababi]

steve is there any such thing as a bad republican in your eyes

Plenty:
Tom Delay
Ted Stephens
Don Young
Tom Tancredo

Just to name a few high profile ones.

[earwhig]

"there is only one man who has truly fought for america, and that is JOHN MCCAIN"

hahahaha

[Knifeboy]

"there is only one man who has truly fought for america, and that is JOHN MCCAIN"

hahahaha


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3250/2395883337_e09bc1f979_o.jpg

??

[sLarkin20]

I'm glad McCain picked her. Now Obama will be sure to win.



:]

[Hababi]

:lol:

[Independent_CA]

The funny thing is that I called who both of them were going to pick.

wait how many years exactly do you think it takes to be successful? Success is about results, not tenureship.

"He's a great professor"
"No he's not he's only been here 2 years!"

Holding a political office, especially one like Vice President of the United States is much different than being a college professor. I've also said this before: No matter who wins, there's going to be little if any change right off the bat. It takes years to make any kind of change in a town like Washington. Experience in such an environment would be helpful.

[Mr. Ron]

HEY GUYS

DID YOU KNOW SHE LIKES MOOSE BURGERS!?


Christ, every damn news station is spending 10 minutes talking about how "cute" it is that she east moose meat.

[Akira]

Let's forget experience. She's completely pro-life with no exceptions, she denies than global warming is man-made, and believes that Creationism should be taught alongside evolution in school. That's what I care about.

[Otherside]

moreover, that's the extent of her views on anything

[Hababi]

Palin is a very environmentally minded governor so whether or not she accepts global warming science, she supports McCain's measures.

[Hababi]

moreover, that's the extent of her views on anything

sexist.

[Mr. Ron]

eww now they're doing a damn biographical on her life. No one cares.


sexist.

what

[Hababi]

eww now they're doing a damn biographical on her life. No one cares.

Unlike Barack Obama, she grew up blue collar. Unlike BO, she worked her way through college. Unlike BO, she's a reformer.

[Hababi]

what

Insulting her intelligence like that is clearly sexist. Democrats run racist campaigns against black republicans and sexist campaigns against females.

[Der Übermensch]

Democrats run racist campaigns against black republicans
But they are Uncle Tom's!!! :p

[Mr. Ron]

Insulting her intelligence like that is clearly sexist. Democrats run racist campaigns against black republicans and sexist campaigns against females.

:facepalm.jpeg:

Unlike Barack Obama, she grew up blue collar. Unlike BO, she worked her way through college. Unlike BO, she's a reformer.

oh wow steve you call him BO how witty


I don't even like barrack so I can't say I care where he came from.

[Hababi]

:facepalm.jpeg:

the presumptive denigration of her intelligence is inescapably sexist.

And I've been calling him BO for a long time.

[Mr. Ron]

the presumptive denigration of her intelligence is inescapably sexist.

And I've been calling him BO for a long time.

well thats because she's a woman steve


^^^^ TAKE THIS POST SERIOUSLY.

[Hababi]

:facepalm.jpeg:



oh wow steve you call him BO how witty


I don't even like barrack so I can't say I care where he came from.

It's not a matter of caring where he came from, only that he's lying about it. He grew up comfortably and makes believe that he grew up poor.

[Otherside]

sexist.

buzzword whore monkey



in other news:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/156258/page/2

[Mr. Ron]

It's not a matter of caring where he came from, only that he's lying about it. He grew up comfortably and makes believe that he grew up poor.

I honestly have never seen him say he was "poor". But then again I just don't care. All candidates and VP's are garbage.

[Hababi]

buzzword whore monkey



in other news:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/156258/page/2

yeah well he's a stupid elitist who doesn't understand middle america.

[Mr. Ron]

yeah well he's a stupid elitist who doesn't understand middle america.

No politician that makes over 6 figures does.

[Hababi]

I honestly have never seen him say he was "poor".

He did in his speech from his fake parthenon.

But then again I just don't care. All candidates and VP's are garbage.

You've undergone a bizarre transformation, from borderline libertarian republican to liberal democrat to...nihilist?

[Mr. Ron]

He did in his speech from his fake parthenon.


You've undergone a bizarre transformation, from borderline libertarian republican to liberal democrat to...nihilist?

steve, why do you make these stupid leaps? I just don't like the candidates and VP's, how does that translate into nihilism? It doesn't.


and when have I ever been a libertarian republican?

[Hababi]

steve, why do you make these stupid leaps? I just don't like the candidates and VP's, how does that translate into nihilism? It doesn't.


and when have I ever been a libertarian republican?

When you started out here and were a Glenn Beck fan.

And "All candidates and VP's are garbage."

That didn't specify current candidates. That was a nihilistic criticism of politicians in general.

[Mr. Ron]

When you started out here and were a Glenn Beck fan.

And "All candidates and VP's are garbage."

That didn't specify current candidates. That was a nihilistic criticism of politicians in general.

lol that was close to 5 years ago. I don't know what I am.


Nah, I don't dislike every candidate in the history of US politics. Just a lot of them. Even then the term "nihilism" doesn't apply.

[Otherside]

sexist.

also;

Ah the trusty "If you don't support her you're a sexist!" line.

[sLarkin20]

She's just a dumb woman, anyways.

[Hababi]

also;

Ah the trusty "If you don't support her you're a sexist!" line.

no not supporting her doesn't inherently make you a sexist
presumptively judging her intelligence, on the other hand, does

[Otherside]

i was talking her political views regardless steve i just thought it was funny how fast you were to throw out the sexist line when you complain so much about the racist line

[Mr. Ron]

NO OTHERSIDE


Don't you see?


You hate women.

[Otherside]

its true how did you guess was it my lance bass avatar damnit i knew it was too obvious :(

[Hababi]

i was talking her political views regardless steve i just thought it was funny how fast you were to throw out the sexist line when you complain so much about the racist line

That's because the racist line is unfounded, whereas you went and insulted her intelligence. Go ahead, keep on being a sexist. McCain will win the female vote and the election.

[Mr. Ron]

....

[Otherside]

lol steve really


just drop it you look like a dunce

or be more serious idc

[Hababi]

lol steve really


just drop it you look like a dunce

or be more serious idc

well if you stop presumptively judging her intelligence then maybe I'll stop calling you a sexist.

The Obama camp is now bringing up the issue of experience. Epic fail.

[Otherside]

you know its bad when OBAMA talks about experience

[Otherside]

i was talking her political views regardless steve i just thought it was funny how fast you were to throw out the sexist line when you complain so much about the racist linei was talking her political views regardless steve i just thought it was funny how fast you were to throw out the sexist line when you complain so much about the racist linei was talking her political views regardless steve i just thought it was funny how fast you were to throw out the sexist line when you complain so much about the racist linei was talking her political views regardless steve i just thought it was funny how fast you were to throw out the sexist line when you complain so much about the racist line

???????

[oathfbass]

I know I barely post on these boards but calling someone sexist because they don't like their policies makes you look pretty.....bad

[Luc214]

Sarah Palin is an awesome choice, I absolutely love it. She was my pick, I think she brings the most to the table.

did you even mention her name before today

Oh, and she has served more days as governor than Barry Obama has in the senate. And is the governor of a state bordering two sovereign countries.

Obama has 4 years in the Senate, 7 years as State Senator, he was a community organizer for years, and he has taught Constitutional law for 12 years. He has a B.A. in political science from Columbia, a J.D. in Constitutional Law from Harvard. He was the editor of the Harvard Law Review. In the Senate, he is on the Foreign Relations Committee, chairman of the subcommittee on European Affairs. He has the experience and the knowledge to lead this country.

Palin doesn't even have the experience to be VP. A B.A. from University of Idaho in journalism, a beauty-paganet contestant, 4 years on a city council and 6 years as a mayor of a city of 8,000 people, if that. She has been the governor of Alaska, a state with a population 1/18th that of Illinois, for 18 months.

sure

[Avalanche.]

that was nice

[oathfbass]

Hillary Clinton forums:

http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?p=319377#post319377

[Luc214]

because forums mean everything

[McP3000]

lol i love rooting for the underdog steve, but now your just being a total douche

[Reaganista]

Let's forget experience. She's completely pro-life with no exceptions, she denies than global warming is man-made, and believes that Creationism should be taught alongside evolution in school. That's what I care about.

she has ovaries that's what i care about
prove that your issues are more important than mine

[McP3000]

ovaries can be removed

[Reaganista]

sure they can but they havent been

also on a semi related note a transexual being a major party candidate would be the greatest thing ever i would go balistic

[McP3000]

why

what makes you think they can make a decision on government spending or the iraq war if the they cant even decide which sex they want to be

[Reaganista]

they did decide that's why they're a transexual
what a stupid thing to say

[McP3000]

it was a bad joke sorry to burst your bubble

[Reaganista]

it was a terrible joke

[Avalanche.]

Hillary Clinton forums:

http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?p=319377#post319377

Those people are nuttier than circus peanuts

I think they're more anti Obama than pro Hillary

[pppoe]

Registration is disabled. Wouldn't want to have their party ruined by reasonable people, I see.

[mattspurplepen]

How could these people be so freaking idiotic? i wouldn't support someone who has completely opposite stances on all of the social values i believe just because of their gender/race/anything unless it was something crazy like a talking parrot running for president maybe. Don't all of these hillary supporters realize Palin wants to limit the freedom of choice for women, doesn't believe man plays a role in global warming, teach creationism instead of evolution? and is basically just a dumb hick from alaska. I mean thats a little harsh i'm sure she has some good qualities but i wouldn't go against what i stand for in the blink of an eye like that, who cares if the democratic party betrayed hillary- its unfortunate. but you could either get over it, vote for some independent woman who shares the same beliefs, or not vote, i guess it comes down to how high people hold their values over just appearances.
Seriously though i was a bit confused seeing a bunch of people throw away their ideals just for a woman but maybe thats just me.

[mattspurplepen]

" NObama - No Way - KNOW McCAIN!

Q. Obama agrees with Sen. Clinton on most issues. Why not vote for him?
A. If agreeing with Sen. Clinton is all that is required then there would be 18 million of us running for president.

Q. What about Roe v. Wade?
A. The DNC backhands women and then dangles Roe v. Wade over their head... not working!

Q. Don't TRUE Dems vote Dem ?
A. TRUE Americans don't belong to racist churches for 20 years. I will not reward this! "

- someone's headline..... I think i get it, America is filled with ignorant, misguided people- no wonder George W Bush was voted in twice!
**** i don't even think obama is amazing or anything like most people, but come on.. when you compare him to McCain its a no brainer. the democratic party definitely stands for more socially liberal values which most of these people should have been interested in if they were democrats. Maybe this website is just a fake thing to promote mcCain haha

[Luc214]

" NObama - No Way - KNOW McCAIN!

Q. Obama agrees with Sen. Clinton on most issues. Why not vote for him?
A. If agreeing with Sen. Clinton is all that is required then there would be 18 million of us running for president.

Q. What about Roe v. Wade?
A. The DNC backhands women and then dangles Roe v. Wade over their head... not working!

Q. Don't TRUE Dems vote Dem ?
A. TRUE Americans don't belong to racist churches for 20 years. I will not reward this! "

- someone's headline..... I think i get it, America is filled with ignorant, misguided people- no wonder George W Bush was voted in twice!
**** i don't even think obama is amazing or anything like most people, but come on.. when you compare him to McCain its a no brainer. the democratic party definitely stands for more socially liberal values which most of these people should have been interested in if they were democrats. Maybe this website is just a fake thing to promote mcCain haha

Wait a minute why are Republican McCain supporters following McCain with regurgitating original Democrat slogans/lines with their own spin.

Aren't they more creative than that?

[Knifeboy]

lol at the poster on that forum who said that now the clintons are gonna vote for mccain because palin is a woman

[Smokey D]

It was a genius bit of political engineering by the McCain campaign. It was obvious from the momemnt Hillary was defeated by Obama that the way to steal some free votes from traditional Democrat strongholds was to run a female Veep. The moment Obama confirmed that he wasn't picking Hillary this was garaunteed and it will have quite a significant effect, I think.

Stupid bitter Hillary supporters voting against their interests, but what can you expect when you give women the vote.

[sweboy]

Sarah Louise Heath Palin

|
v

Stalin


Coincidence? Maybe, I don't know...

[Hababi]

Palin doesn't even have the experience to be VP.


Obama doesn't have the experience to be president, so you best not try the experience gambit.

Palin would be a 'heartbeat away.' Obama, mr 147 days in the senate, as a domestic terrorist's protege, would be the heartbeat.

Palin has almost 2 years of executive experience, more than Obama and Biden put together. She governs the only state that borders two sovereign countries. Her approval rating is among the highest in the nation.

And yes Smokey is right that it's a genius pick.

[Smokey D]

Gubernatorial service in Alaska isn't really the kind of experience that translates to the White House.

But I think the experience card is overplayed on both sides. If you're not an idiot and you've been around Washington long ehough to understand the basics, you're likely to be more effectve than an idiot who's been there for 30 years. A person with vision and drive is more important than someone with neither.

[Mr. Ron]

It was a genius bit of political engineering by the McCain campaign. It was obvious from the momemnt Hillary was defeated by Obama that the way to steal some free votes from traditional Democrat strongholds was to run a female Veep. The moment Obama confirmed that he wasn't picking Hillary this was garaunteed and it will have quite a significant effect, I think.

Stupid bitter Hillary supporters voting against their interests, but what can you expect when you give women the vote.

Exactly! :p:chug:

[Aaron]

She's a woman


and therefore a terrible choice


/thread
Will everyone in the white-house have to whisper once a month so they don't upset her?

[Light Fantastic]

people think about the democrats who will switch based on her gender too much and forget the republicans who could do the exact same thing so it hardly matters at all that shes female


more like shes vastly inexperienced and not suited for the job

[pate]

Going back a bit, why the hell does it matter if three months ago she didn't know what the VP does? I'm sure she does now.

[Light Fantastic]

shes a small town governor from a state thats entirely separated from the rest of the country, such comments are indicative of her lack of knowledge and experience in the mainstream american political system

if she didnt know what the vp does, what else doesnt she know

[Aaron]

..means there's be lots of other aspects of REALLY BLOODY OBVIOUS things she doesn't know about politics and running a country.

[Akira]

Palin is a very environmentally minded governor so whether or not she accepts global warming science, she supports McCain's measures.

People who deny global warming and lie to keep animals off the endangered species list aren't "environmentally minded."

[Akira]

McCain will win the female vote.

...

...

...

You're not serious. You can't be. A year and a half governor more pro-life than most male Republicans is not going to win McCain the female vote.

[Akira]

shes a small town governor from a state thats entirely separated from the rest of the country, such comments are indicative of her lack of knowledge and experience in the mainstream american political system

if she didnt know what the vp does, what else doesnt she know

You're stupid. Alaska is far from the rest of America, but it's close to Canada and Russia. That makes her a foreign policy genius.

[g°®†]

methane, from the 1.6 billion cows in the world only produce about 10% of the atmospheric pollution.



only.

[Knifeboy]

Would anyone care to tell me what the VP actually does?

[pate]

People who deny global warming and lie to keep animals off the endangered species list aren't "environmentally minded."

Global warming doesn't exist.

[sLarkin20]

ur dum

[Der Übermensch]

Would anyone care to tell me what the VP actually does?

Breaks ties in the Senate and meets the diplomats not important enough to meet the Prez.

[Mr. Ron]

Global warming doesn't exist.

;_;

[Knifeboy]

Breaks ties in the Senate and meets the diplomats not important enough to meet the Prez.


So basically.. Not much at all

I read her response more as she believed that the VP doesn't do enough for her to be interested in taking the job.. The "I don't even know what a VP does" being an overstatement pointing out that she thought the VP did too little for it to be interesting

[Akira]

Honestly, the veep basically just exists in case the president dies.

[Dimmu Burger]

I'm not voting for McCain but I do like her. I like that she stirs up sh*t in her own party. She says how she feels and then worries about the consequences later.

[Knifeboy]

Honestly, the veep basically just exists in case the president dies.

Yes, which is why, even though I have an extreme dislike for her, I think that her comments weren't a sign of ignorance at all

[sweboy]

Ok, so she denies global warming, is a member of the NRA, is anti-abortion, thinks that Intelligent Design should be taught in schools?

Come on America, I appreciate practical humour but this is getting old.

And then she decided to have a child at the age of 44, even though the risk of Down's syndrome increases rapidly with the mother's age after the age of 30, and then gave birth to a child knowing it had Down's. What a sadist! >:[

[beastman168]

Sarah Louise Heath Palin

|
v

Stalin


Coincidence? Maybe, I don't know...
You can get Satan out of that, too. Furthermore, look at the last governor "elected" president. Good Ol' George W. Also, anyone who believes Creationism should be taught in school should be crucified, let alone President. (McCain won't last 4 years.)

/ends bias, sexist rant

[Dimmu Burger]

(McCain won't last 4 years.)

Then we get a hot female prez!

[pate]

Ok, so she denies global warming, is a member of the NRA, is anti-abortion, thinks that Intelligent Design should be taught in schools?

Come on America, I appreciate practical humour but this is getting old.

And then she decided to have a child at the age of 44, even though the risk of Down's syndrome increases rapidly with the mother's age after the age of 30, and then gave birth to a child knowing it had Down's. What a sadist! >:[

What does NRA have to do with anything?

[Der Übermensch]

'Dem damn Lib'rals wans to take our gunz!

[pate]

That's right.

[sweboy]

It has to do with the stereotype of the American conservative nutjob (like all those things listed).

[Der Übermensch]

That's right.

I was at a gun show last week and was looking for SKS'... one guy's MAIN selling point was "Buy it now, cause Obama is gonna ban these." I ended up buying one from a different guy who wasn't conspiratorial. There is no way they will be able to ban semi-automatic hunting rifles. It simply is impossible.

[pate]

I know, but they think they can.

[Hababi]

I was at a gun show last week and was looking for SKS'... one guy's MAIN selling point was "Buy it now, cause Obama is gonna ban these." I ended up buying one from a different guy who wasn't conspiratorial. There is no way they will be able to ban semi-automatic hunting rifles. It simply is impossible.

wait how is it impossible?

Obama is the most anti-gun candidate the Democrats have ever run.

[Der Übermensch]

wait how is it impossible?

Obama is the most anti-gun candidate the Democrats have ever run.

Maybe, but he isn't going to ban gun's. That would be impossible without a constitutional amendment (which would be impossible to pass...)
As President, I will uphold the constitutional rights of law-abiding gun-owners, hunters, and sportsmen.

[Hababi]

he doesn't need to ban them per say, just restrict the heck out of them to the point where they're next to impossible to get. Back when he was just lefty state senator Barack Obama, he wrote that he would support banning hand guns.

[Der Übermensch]

he doesn't need to ban them per say, just restrict the heck out of them to the point where they're next to impossible to get. Back when he was just lefty state senator Barack Obama, he wrote that he would support banning hand guns.

Banning handguns = / = banning hunting rifles. One is generally seen as a stop-gap to inner city crime, the other has nothing to do with crime for the most part.

[Already_Taken]

It's not a matter of caring where he came from, only that he's lying about it. He grew up comfortably and makes believe that he grew up poor.

he grew up with a single mom. is that comfortable? it wasn't for me. **** yourself.

[pate]

I still want my handguns.

[Already_Taken]

obama will win this election for sure. mccain has made a mockery of his campaign by picking this woman. it is just a stupid childish ploy to gain votes, and americans aren't stupid enough to miss that. mccain is 75, the average life expectancy in this country would put him dead before his first term ended. who on earth would vote for this lady based on her credentials? not most women.

[Der Übermensch]

I still want my handguns.

Me too certainly. And it's not like they can ban those either after Heller v. DC. Gun rights in America are more secure then ever :)

[g°®†]

The Right to Bear Arms was made in a time when it was necessary as America had just concluded a war with Britain.



That ammendment is so far past obsolete it's ridiculous. The last time Americans as a whole had to worry about 'bearing arms' was during the Civil War and that was over in 1865.


There's nothing that will stop the usage of fire arm weaponry in crime, but if you ask me, I think that guns should be limited to law enforcement (and similar factions of the gov't) and to hunters who have undergone thorough measures to ensure that they use them solely for hunting. Weapons really shouldn't be available to the general public.

[Hababi]

he grew up with a single mom. is that comfortable? it wasn't for me. **** yourself.

:lol: Silly Obamamaniac. He grew up raised mostly by his grandparents, who were, by the way, a bank executive and a successful entrepreneur. Try again :)

[pppoe]

I used to strongly support gun control but I've moved away from that. It's much better to allow people to defend themselves, their families and their homes, and not have them completely rely on police officers who often don't do much at all.

[Light Fantastic]

gort how am i going to protect myself from black people then

[Jude]

Lmao at Jeremiah Wright being a "domestic terrorist"

and shitting my pants at the prospect of Americans electing someone VP who wants to teach creationism in public schools...fact is, I have no doubt in their ability to do that

[Already_Taken]

:lol: Silly Obamamaniac. He grew up raised mostly by his grandparents, who were, by the way, a bank executive and a successful entrepreneur. Try again :)

lol im the obamamaniac, but go ahead and correct me on his life story. they weren't his parents. my dad was raised by his grandparents, and if you knew the stress that is caused in childhood you would stfu. grandparents aren't parents, they are too old to run around chasing children, plus they've already raised them before.

[Light Fantastic]

lol @ people talking like being raised by a single parent or grandparents is like living in the third world

[Already_Taken]

it's not, but it's a problem that no amount of money can fix.

[g°®†]

I'm not against guns since I typically find shelter in a nice environment where needing 'fire arm protection' isn't at all necessary.


There will always be crime. Forbidding guns will only stop one thing ... non-criminals not having guns.


Basically, let me change my former statement .... I think that those who do legally purchase a gun should undergo even more thorough background checks and extremely strict measures should be taken to ensure that said weapons are allowed to those who can be trusted with them.

[Jude]

And it's totally ****ing irrelevant to being president
(edit: having a single mother)
Zero, if you're seriously still trying to call Obama the out of touch elitist while McCain can't even remember how many mansions he owns (was it 7 or 9? I can't even remember) then you're reaching a new level of retardation.

[Light Fantastic]

it's not, but it's a problem that no amount of money can fix.wait explain how its a problem at all in the first world

i mean i know here we are filthy socialists who will stop at nothing to help disadvantaged citizens, but it cant be that bad in amerikkka

[Der Übermensch]

Agreed. When ever I buy a firearm, there is a little box to write "yes" or "no" to the question of whether you are buying this gun for someone else. Like anyone would say its for someone else. It's pretty absurd. I've only bought rifles and shotguns though, so (hopefully) it is different for handguns. I know you actually have to register them which is a start.

[DBoons Ghost]

I'm growing tired of this experience issue.

The only way to gain experience in being President is.. to be President.

Some of the worst Presidents have been career politicians and what did that ever gain us? It's hit or miss with how many years who's been where and what state versus what council.

None of it compares to being President. Truly the only one who comes close in that capacity is Hilary but only because her husband was President.. and assuming he actually spoke to her about issues along the way, there is no way anyone regardless of the depth or the body of their experience anywhere there is absolutely no one truly experienced enough to be President because there is no other job like it.

Bush's daddy was Pres and he ran the biggest state in the union and he turned out to be an ignorant scrub.

Enough of the experience argument!

[BassRevelation0]

Probably mentioned, but not exactly the best choice when theres a scandal brewing in your hometown.

[Hababi]

Probably mentioned, but not exactly the best choice when theres a scandal brewing in your hometown.

:lol: it's a BS faux scandal:
http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/08/29/palins-troopergate-beating-msm-distortions-to-the-truth/

[gregulus]

:lol: Silly Obamamaniac. He grew up raised mostly by his grandparents, who were, by the way, a bank executive and a successful entrepreneur. Try again :)

You act like John McCain identifies so well with the common man. His upbringing is irrelevant, as he's been grown for many years now, and his circumstances have certainly changed.

[Hababi]

You act like John McCain identifies so well with the common man. His upbringing is irrelevant, as he's been grown for many years now, and his circumstances have certainly changed.

I'm not even talking about McCain, I'm just talking about Obama's misrepresentation of his childhood.

[gregulus]

Global warming doesn't exist.

oof.

[oathfbass]

Probably mentioned, but not exactly the best choice when theres a scandal brewing in your hometown.

I believe McCain only met with her like once.

[gregulus]

lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOVc9djQUFk

[Akira]

People who deny global warming and lie to keep animals off the endangered species list aren't "environmentally minded."

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You're not serious. You can't be. A year and a half governor more pro-life than most male Republicans is not going to win McCain the female vote.

Want to respond to these Steve?

And take a look at this while you're at it:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/10/ftn/main4336134.shtml

[pate]

mccain is 75,

No he's not. He's 72.

I think that guns should be limited to law enforcement (and similar factions of the gov't) and to hunters who have undergone thorough measures to ensure that they use them solely for hunting. Weapons really shouldn't be available to the general public.

Target shooting is a sport.
Self defense is necessary.

McCain can't even remember how many mansions he owns (was it 7 or 9? I can't even remember) then you're reaching a new level of retardation.

The question was how many he and his wife own. She's rich on her own, and owns all sorts of properties.

[g°®†]

No he's not. He's 72.



Target shooting is a sport.
Self defense is necessary.



The question was how many he and his wife own. She's rich on her own, and owns all sorts of properties.



you missed my later post .. go read it.

[McP3000]

i cant believe people care how rich a politician is like its relevant at all.

Just because a person is rich doesnt mean they only care for the rich. People are more sympathetic/empathetic than you think you petty bastards.

[Akira]

The question was how many he and his wife own. She's rich on her own, and owns all sorts of properties.

How many people have homes that their spouses don't know about?

[pate]

Rich people.

It's not like it's a big shock that they're rich.

And I believe the question also said "properties" not homes.

[Reaganista]

Stupid bitter Hillary supporters voting against their interests, but what can you expect when you give women the vote.
i agree it's not in the interests of women to have a woman in the white house good thing youre here to tell women what they want because they sure as **** couldnt figure it out without you

[g°®†]

vote to END WOMENZ SUFFRAGE!!!!


those poor women need not suffer any moar!!! :smash:

[mattspurplepen]

haha i enjoyed that video, it was very heartfelt. I think at least one good thing could come from McCain as president- tons more episodes of the daily show!

i'm a mcCainiac, mccainiac!

[McP3000]

im pretty sure comedians around the world want another republican president

i mean then they can do more lame bush jokes, and not be called racist.

[Akira]

Rich people.

It's not like it's a big shock that they're rich.

And I believe the question also said "properties" not homes.

No. No it didn't. It was "How many houses do you and Mrs. McCain have?"

[Hababi]

wtg akira concentrating on relevant things

vote barack obama he has fewer homes

[Light Fantastic]

vote mccain hes white

[sweboy]

vote mccain hes white

but his vice president is a woman! it's loose/loose for america!