college football 08

[griftadan]

rivals.com top 25:

1. USC
2. Georgia
3. Ohio State
4. Oklahoma
5. Missouri
6. Florida
7. Auburn
8. WVU
9. Clemson
10. LSU
11. Kansas
12. BYU
13. Wisconsin
14. Texas Tech
15. Texas
16. Arizona State
17. Virginia Tech
18. Illinois
19. Tennessee
20. South Florida
21. Oregon
22. Penn State
23. Fresno State
24. Wake Forest
25. Pittburgh

i don't see how USC can be a #1 considering the overturn they've had

[griftadan]

more detail:

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=1144&CID=815280

[Illmatic]

looks like rivals is the only publication that doesn't have UGA at #1.

I'm surprised that Penn State and Pitt made it to the top 25, although I'm sure they won't stick around for very long.

[griftadan]

i see where there coming form though, their schedule is brutal. although so was LSU's last year and that didn't stop them from reaching the title game

and yeah those picks seem to be good faith picks that are based entirely off a few games from last year

and i'm going to go ahead and put it out there: the big XII appears to have equaled if not surpassed the SEC

[Illmatic]

what makes you say that?

[adb]

i don't see how USC can be a #1 considering the overturn they've had

uhh maybe those incredible recruiting classes from a couple years ago?

McKnight is gonna have a huge year, I'm just worried about their receiving core. Hazelton shows flashes last year, I'm hoping he can step up.

[griftadan]

#1 is a little high based off potential alone, their qb is an unproven commodity

what makes you say that?

well having 5 teams in the top 15 doesn't hurt, the big 12 has just gotten a lot better this year where as the SEC hasn't really

[Poet]

I am praying so hard Mizzou wins a national title this year, and I think they can do it. Their hardest games will be against Illinois, Texas, and Kansas.

[griftadan]

i wouldn't ever discount texas with all the talent they bring in but they're just not really a good match up against missouri (poor secondary).

[Kingofdudes]

UGA will have a great year I think. I'm rooting for South Florida this year, and I am rooting for Auburn out of spite towards Bama fags

[Zmev]

Since they are closest to me geographically and I don't like Cal I am obligated to root for
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/11/2007/03/StanfordCardinal.jpg

Lets get it to 5 wins!

[griftadan]

UGA will have a great year I think. I'm rooting for South Florida this year, and I am rooting for Auburn out of spite towards Bama fags

good stuff, hopefully they go undefeated against everyone but kansas

[Kingofdudes]

oh yeah I forgot to mention: **** LSU

[Illmatic]

for sake of comparison, the USA Today top 25:

1. Georgia (22)
2. USC (14)
3. Ohio State (14)
4. Oklahoma (3)
5. Florida (5)
6. LSU (3)
7. Missouri
8. West Virginia
9. Clemson
10. Texas
11. Auburn
12. Wisconsin
13. Kansas
14. Texas Tech
15. Virginia Tech
16. Arizona State
17. Brigham Young
18. Tennessee
19. Illinois
20. Oregon
21. South Florida
22. Penn State
23. Wake Forest
24. Michigan
25. Fresno State

tough season for Illinois - we have to play Michigan, Penn State, and Wisconsin on the road. thankfully OSU has to come to Champaign. also, the Illini got a verbal commitment from a 4-star RB, so another good recruiting class is on the horizon.

[Poet]

And you completely leave on Mizzou in St. Louis :(

[Illmatic]

And you completely leave on Mizzou in St. Louis :(

of course that's a tough one but that game is played in St. Louis every year so it's not any different than usual

[beastman168]

Colt McCoy is going to kill this year. Texas FTW!

[LegionsofMarduk]

I'm pretty excited about the season. NCAA football is the only sport I really keep up on. It's just about the only TV I watch at all. And it's going to be especially interesting this year since the girl I'm now dating is a Michigan State fan while I am a die hard Michigan fan.

My predictions: The SEC will continue to dominate producing a 3rd consecutive BCS title game appearance in either Auburn or the winner of the Georgia/Florida game. The Big XII will produce the other team going to the BSC title in either Mizzou or Oklahoma. Oklahoma will end their bowl game losing streak. Kansas will not repeat their success from last year. Michigan, as much as I would love to see them make a title run, is in the midst of rebuilding under Rich Rod. They will go to a bowl game, but not a BSC bowl. As much as I despise Ohio State, they will be the first team to win 3 consecutive outright Big Ten championships. They will make a BSC appearance from that, but not the BSC title game. USC will continue to dominate the Pac-10, winning yet another conference championship though they will have difficulties along the way that will prevent them from making a national title run. Clemson, though ranked high in the preseason polls, will disappoint leaving the ACC championship for the taking. Georgia Tech or Wake Forest will take it. Virginia Tech will slip as well. Notre Dame will be better than last year, but that's not saying much. West Virginia is still the cream of the crop in the Big East. They will win their conference and make a BCS appearance and win.

[griftadan]

SEC and BIG 12 teams will beat up on each other too much to make it to the game, well maybe one from either them will make it but i'm guessing OSU will make it to the championship because i really think they can beat USC and the big ten will be a practical cake walk.

and i really don't know why people think missouri will be so much better then kansas given they were comparable teams last year and suffered very similar turnover. i guess KU has a harder schedule but i don't think that's enough to justify the hype

Colt McCoy is going to kill this year. Texas FTW!

he needs someone to pass to first

[Zmev]

Who did Vince Young pass to? And they won the NC.

[griftadan]

colt mccoy has got to be the worst vince young i've ever seen

[YDload]

Who did Vince Young pass to? And they won the NC.

Limas Sweed is currently lighting up the second string for the Steelers

[Zmev]

Stanford Cardinal: 1st place in the PAC-10

[griftadan]

Football

[Kingofdudes]

I'll be watching the Bama game tonight, lets see if this so called #1 recruiting class will get them anywhere.

[Zmev]

Goddamn Hawaii got raped. Colt Brennan really was important

[YDload]

Va Tech lost to East Carolina, lol. this is without hyperbole, the greatest tragedy to ever befall that school.

[Zmev]

Well at least one team named the Pirates is winning.

[joshmay]

that florida game was NUTS. even their backup qb is basically another tebow at 250 lbs, and he scored a runnin td.

UK @ Louisville today at 3:30, i've got a case of beer that says we're gonna kick some cardinal ***...

[joshmay]

27 -2 ... i think that consitutes an ***-whoopin. GO CATS!

[griftadan]

tennessee ftl. i actually saw this one coming.

[Kingofdudes]

I was impressed with the Bama domination of Clemson. I was also happy about the Utah victory over Michigan :D

[LegionsofMarduk]

colt mccoy has got to be the worst vince young i've ever seen

Maybe so, but he looked pretty good this weekend.

27 -2 ... i think that consitutes an ***-whoopin. GO CATS!

Yeah i think so. I was surprised a little. I thought Kentucky would win it, but I thought Louisville would at least keep it interesting.

I was impressed with the Bama domination of Clemson.

I don't understand why everyone was so surprised by that. I had Alabama to win that game all along. I think Clemson is way overrated, and Alabama way underrated.

I was also happy about the Utah victory over Michigan

Shut up you! :p I know it's gonna be a rough year for Michigan. I'm just glad MSU lost though. If Michigan had lost and State had won my girlfriend wouldn't let me hear the end of it. Should be interesting at my house in October when they play each other.

[Kingofdudes]

Alabama? Underrated? Look at the location buddy :p Driving 2 miles down the road, half the cars I see have Bama stickers.

[LegionsofMarduk]

Alabama? Underrated? Look at the location buddy :p Driving 2 miles down the road, half the cars I see have Bama stickers.

:lol:

Of course everyone down there thinks 'Bama should be ranked #1! The rest of the country though I think underrates them. Maybe not quite as much after this weekend, but I still think they're a better team than the likes of say...ESPN gives them credit for.

[griftadan]

it takes awhile for everyone to forget louisiana monroe

[Kingofdudes]

I rubbed that **** in so many people's faces.

**** I can't stand Bama fans.

[Zmev]

it takes awhile for everyone to forget the miami dolphins

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[Junooni]

So i just went to my first VT football game...

kicked furman's arse.

[Kingofdudes]

You guys didn't do too much *** kicking last week :p

[RG560M]

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/boxscore?gid=200809060069

GO MY SCHOOL! (UK)

Haha, This'll make 2-0 for us, not a bad start.

[YDload]

You guys didn't do too much *** kicking last week :p

but thats okay because, as it turns out, e. carolina is just really good

[Kingofdudes]

but thats okay because, as it turns out, e. carolina is just really good

Yeah apparently, WVU got raped :eek:

[Acey]

ECU just raped WVU .......badly......but hey my Utah Utes are 2-0 and are ranked 22nd.

[Junooni]

You guys didn't do too much *** kicking last week :p

more like the other way around

[The Stig]

I think Knowshon Moreno is so far the outstanding candidate for the Heisman award with Matt Stafford being a top-five candidate. Both are extremely impressive so far this season.

Of course leave it to ESPN to barely give the UGA or any other SEC school except for Tim Tebow more publicity than saying x school won against y school. Though I'm perfectly happy being ranked #2. Just let us kick the tar out of Florida when we shut down Tebow again this year and slip into #1. (And I'll be there when it happens, oh yes). Only problem is that playing in the SEC gives us a severe disadvantage since there is such parity in our conference. Even Vanderbilt looks good this year.

My ordering of the big conferences so far:

SEC
Big 12
Pac-10
MWC
Big 10
MAC
ACC
WAC
C-USA
Independents
Sunbelt

[YDload]

you think ESPN doesn't give enough credit to the SEC? just because they're in love with USC doesnt mean they arent also well aware of the UF/UGA/LSU supremacy

[The Stig]

I dunno. They don't really devote much attention to UGA or LSU it seems. They seem to have much more of a love affair with USC, OSU, and Tim Tebow than anything else. And I think they underplay the fact that even the lower-echelon teams in the SEC could be as high as third-place teams in other conferences like the Pac-10, Big-10, ACC, et cetera. We went something like 10-2 the first week, one of those losses being by three points in overtime. This week, I think we only lost 2 games, and one of those 2 losses was an SEC matchup. And the other loss was again a last-minute affair with Mississippi (arguably the fifth-sixth place team in their division this year) against Wake Forest (probably the strongest ACC team this year).

[Deth]

Trust me, they cover the SEC more than enough, with a special emphasis on Tebow. I need to start putting the TV on mute everytime Mark May starts talking. Obviously it's different for someone rooting for an SEC team that's not Florida, but there's more coverage of it than probably every other conference combined minus USC and OSU.

Also, the Florida State game yesterday was hilarious. I know we were playing a shitting 1-AA team, but being at a game that ends 69-0 was just flat out hilarious.

[The Stig]

I really do think that USC is going to absolutely steamroll over OSU though.

[Deth]

Probably. I really don't care about the outcome really. As long as someone is around to kick the **** out of the Gators, life is good.

[The Stig]

I really think it will go like last year when we beat them. Miami, a mid-level team from one of the most disappointing of the big conferences, was able to hold them to only 9 points for three quarters. And I really think the defense faltered because the Miami offense never seemed to want to advance beyond the 45 yard line, so the defense seemed to always be on the field. If a top-notch defense like UGA can come in and play their A-Game like last year, I think we can beat them pretty soundly. If we don't get injured before then, I see it being pretty good for us. Don't forget that we have a great all-around offense (having so far scored the most points in the SEC this young season) with threats in passing and the run game. Florida's defense has to be able to stop both to prevent us from scoring. And our offense should be able to control the ball long enough to prevent the defense from tiring out like Miami's did.

In short, watching Miami v. Florida really encouraged me last night.

[Deth]

Floriduh will have 3 losses probably. I will rejoice after each.

[The Stig]

Me too.

Thing is playing in the SEC is a disadvantage in the BCS. Three games, as good as we are, will be extremely tough to win regardless (based on what I've seen so far):

Florida
Auburn
LSU

All three are on the road (technically we're the home team for Florida, but we play them in Jacksonville, so yeah).

And though we should beat them, the following will be tough conference games:

Alabama
Tennessee
South Carolina

And don't forget the road trip to Tempe to play Arizona State. They shouldn't be a huge problem, but we haven't played a Pac-10 team since I've been at school here.

Also Vanderbilt and Kentucky have been impressive so far this season. Vandy may prove to be tougher than USC, and Kentucky is a real wildcard.

I'm confident we can go at least 10-2 (optimistically hopeful we can go 11-1) and make it to the SEC title game.

If we win the SEC, I think our difficulty of schedule should land us in the title game, but Auburn ran the table a few years ago, and we had to settle for a SoCal blowout of Oklahoma.

[YDload]

i think the BCS gives plenty of consideration to the SEC's strong schedule. especially with the last two NCG dismantlings of Ohio State, i dont think anyone will say that a one or two-loss SEC team is unworthy of facing an undefeated OSU or USC in the title game. anymore.

[Deth]

The Auburn scenario won't happen again, I can guarantee that. If I had to put money on it now, I would say it's USC-Georgia in the title game unless OSU runs the table, but after the showing yesterday, I doubt it.

As for my Noles, I reckon a 9 win season and a run for the title in an embarrassingly weak conference. I'll take it though.

[Zmev]

MWC
Big 10

Oh cmon

[Acey]

ZMev apparently you didnt notice what Utah did to michigan in one half, put up over 300 yards of offense on the road against a good defense. but the utes almost shot themselves in the foot by playing conservative.......MWC > Big 10 anyday of the week, especially considering that OSU almost Lost to Ohio University at home..(regardless of if they had wells, its still unacceptable to lose at home to a team you should be dominating)

[Zmev]

Apparently you didn't notice Michigan aren't a very good team and OSU & PSU are still pretty good teams.

[Acey]

if OSU was good, they'd maybe give some competition in the NC game. seriously. hell idaho could've put up a better game than OSU the last couple years. but OSU is good, but they're not that good, especially after a star player gets hurt. (beanie wells goes out for a game and they should've lost)

[griftadan]

kansas vs fsu > ohio state vs usc

i'm glad it gets televised friday on east coast times, ku games never get televised on that type of venue

[Illmatic]

Of course leave it to ESPN to barely give the UGA or any other SEC school except for Tim Tebow more publicity than saying x school won against y school.

are you kidding me.

every major media outlet fawns over the damn SEC and its "superior athletes". it's always an LSU/Georgia/Florida circlejerk, they pay their respects to Auburn and Alabama, they annually try to fool people into thinking Tennessee is still a legitimate program, and it seems like every week they're pumping up a mediocre program (Ole Miss, Arkansas, South Carolina, etc.) for the sheer reason that it's part of the SEC and doggone it they could hold their own in another BCS conference because of that one time they only lost to 17 points to LSU.

I mean maybe they would do well in the Big East or in the ACC but that's about it.

[Acey]

SEC is just like the big 10 , a bunch of overrated players on overrated teams that espn and all sports analysts hype up............ i mean Georgia playing Ga. Southern? if Georgia really wanted to prove itself out of conference why dont they go schedule mizzouri or oklahoma or USC or something like that..........seriousl

[Kingofdudes]

Dude your typing makes my eyes bleed. And seriously, does Georgia really have to prove themselves out of their own conference? They have a much tougher schedule than the someone like ****ing Utes do.

Hawaii last season is a damn good example of someone that needed to prove themselves outside of their conference.

[guitrguy]

SEC is just like the big 10 , a bunch of overrated players on overrated teams that espn and all sports analysts hype up............ i mean Georgia playing Ga. Southern? if Georgia really wanted to prove itself out of conference why dont they go schedule mizzouri or oklahoma or USC or something like that..........seriousl

rofl wow

anyways I am going the MSU V. Auburn game tomorrow. MSU is gonna get pounded, but still should be fun.

[griftadan]

so if usf loses to kansas tomorrow it's looking pretty bad for the big east at the moment

[Kingofdudes]

I'm rooting for USF, I like it when new programs kick ***

[guitrguy]

you would wouldn't you?

[griftadan]

I'm rooting for USF, I like it when new programs kick ***

kansas might as well be a new program

[Poet]

lol@Kansas losing

:D for Mizzou scoring a team record 69 points today (Well, tied for the record.)

woot@1000 posts

[Buttloaves]

Did anyone watch the MD/CA game? Some guy on CA got trucked and started crawling around before he vomited on live TV.

[griftadan]

lol@Kansas losing

:D for Mizzou scoring a team record 69 points today (Well, tied for the record.)

woot@1000 posts

way to fake a field goal during a blowout

[YDload]

dear ESPN,

could you please please PLEEEEASE suck Pete Carroll's dick some more?? i'm not sure i quite understand how much you love USC. please continue sucking off the entire Pac-10 for as long as you live.

[Poet]

I hate the Pac 10, aside from the Ducks, they are cool.

way to fake a field goal during a blowout
lol

[The Stig]

I watched most of the first 3 quarters of MD laying the smackdown on Cal. Wasn't nearly as close as the score indicated, though. We barely survived against USC today. I wrote the following post on the ESPN boards as a response to some of the more colorful comments (half of which seem to be worse than youtube comments):

The UGA/USC game is almost always a very close affair year in and year out. As has been said, a win is a win. The early stats also show the SEC as the strongest overall conference with only Mississippi State, Ole Miss, and Tennessee having an out of conference loss. The Ole Miss and Tennessee games were also decided by last second field goals to boot. Kentucky, Alabama, Ole Miss, Vanderbilt, and LSU are all leading their respective games against out of conference opponents at this point in time. Tennessee beat their out of conference opponent this week by a large margin. Look at Auburn playing Mississippi State, though. Miss. State is considered one of our bottom feeders in the conference, and ninth-ranked Auburn is only up 3-2 in the late fourth quarter. That demonstrates overall up and down strength in the conference if you ask me. And I'm not seeing any Auburn is overrated comments on here. Even though I'm biased against Auburn, considering I'm a student at (and a fan of) UGA, I'll give them credit where it's due -- any win within the SEC is one that needs to be earned.

And what if the pollsters decide to drop us a spot or two in the rankings? It's not a big deal. I'm confident UGA can keep on winning. One of the main problems today was the penalty yardage we gave USC. I don't feel the game would have been as close as it was had we not made some mistakes on our pass coverage. The game was a bit too close for comfort, but I won't start worrying just yet.

So yeah and 3-2 Auburn v. Miss. State? Did they decide to play baseball instead?

[Poet]

So yeah and 3-2 Auburn v. Miss. State? Did they decide to play baseball instead?

Pretty much the greatest score I've ever seen. Pretty embarrassing for Miss St. to hold a good Auburn team to 3 pts but still lose by 1.

[The Stig]

My mom said a big high school rivalry game back when she was in high school had a score of 2-0. But Auburn v. Miss. State was crazy.

Currently watching Fresno St. v. Wisconsin. Much better than the snoozer I expected with SoCal v. tOSU

[YDload]

terrelle pryor is the future of OSU. i guess thats why he's not actually playing much tonight. better to feed boeckman to the wolves.

[Zmev]

I expected USC to win and all but damn.

Guess this means Penn State is going to the Rose Bowl (minus a loss to some scrub)

[YDload]

they havent beaten Michigan since 1996

[Zmev]

hence the "loss to some scrub"

[The Stig]

But look at Michigan this year so far.

[Zmev]

They beat Miami Ohio by 10 and lost to Notre Dame today.

e: ohh I see you were saying that they're bad. Penn State will find a way to lose even though they're killing the competition (poor Syracuse)

[The Stig]

Yeah it was a poorly timed post aimed at YDload.

Penn State is probably the best team in the Big 10. I see them 'winning' their championship unless tOSU can bounce back and play well.

[YDload]

no, you dont understand. i KNOW anthony morelli isnt the QB anymore, but they will still lose to either michigan, OSU or wisconsin. possibly two out of the three.

[guitrguy]

**** auburn so hard in the ***

[Zmev]

Geez, Missouri scored on their first 10 possessions (against a WAC team, but its still impressive). They're not hungover from their one good year and Chase Daniel looks like a Heisman candidate again.

[The Stig]

I don't think they'll lose to Michigan unless they implode or Michigan finds their offense by then. I'd say they are easily good enough to beat tOSU. It's close to a tossup, but I'd go with PSU 65%. Wisconsin is what I'd say is their biggest worry, and they looked a little sloppy at times tonight against Fresno St.

They being Penn State

And I didn't realize ASU lost tonight until they showed the replay on SC. Looks alright for us next week I'm hoping.



And Brian why did you guys throw that interception? You'd have had it won if you'd kicked a field goal.

[Rams]

Northwestern will dominate the Big 10 this year.

[The Stig]

And MSU is winning the SEC seeing as how they've only allowed 3 SEC points this year so far.

Wait

[guitrguy]

And Brian why did you guthrow that ]interception? You'd have had it won if you'd kicked a field goal.

because we are inconsistent large bundle of sticks

I tailgaited so hard for this game too

[The Stig]

I was pulling for you guys, though.

[guitrguy]

tbh I was expecting worse. My friend got kicked out of the bar because he cussed during our missed field goal.

[Pebster49]

BYU destroyed 59-0, damn! MWC destroyed the PAC-10 4-0 this week

[Acey]

my MWC teams did pretty good, gonig 4-0 against pac 10 including BYU's field day performance. vegas looked good against arizona state as well

[The Stig]

New AP poll is out. 5 SEC teams in the top 10. :D

[Pebster49]

BYU got #11, and Utah up to #20...nice

[The Stig]

It's still early in the season, though. I think SoCal, Mizzou, and Oklahoma will slow down some. And we'll see if the MWC (namely BYU) can hang tough. Only thing is as much as I like to pull for the underdog (as long as they aren't playing us), I'm afraid they may wind up as this year's Hawaii -- Looking amazing until they play a top team in a top conference in a BCS bowl. But it's only the end of week 3, so it's way too early to say what will happen.

[Kingofdudes]

I wanted to vomit watching the USC game, probably because the guy I was watching the game with circle jerks the **** out of USC.

I'm pulling for BYU (Utah is basically my home state).

Auburn vs LSU next week, Auburn better get their **** together because I want to LSU to fall soooooo badly.

[Deth]

Florida State is in the rankings, and hopefully they'll stay planted there. We're putting a boot in Wake Forest's *** next week.

[The Stig]

I wanted to vomit watching the USC game, probably because the guy I was watching the game with circle jerks the **** out of USC.

I'm pulling for BYU (Utah is basically my home state).

Auburn vs LSU next week, Auburn better get their **** together because I want to LSU to fall soooooo badly.


I think USC is a good team, but not nearly as good as everyone makes them out to be. Saturday's thumping was a result of the gross overrating tOSU has received the last three years.

[Shell]

go KU!

<_<

>_>

[guitrguy]

As much as I am hating Auburn right now, I would love to see them take down LSU.

[The Stig]

They can. Almost anyone in the SEC can beat anyone in the SEC. Except, apparently, USC.

[Pebster49]

USC vs BYU National Championship Game!! woo, that would be awesome

[8ight8all]

Just give us USC vs. SEC's best. That's what most of us want.

[Deth]

I really don't want another SEC Champion. The amount of blowjobs they receive everywhere is just irritating beyond belief.

Go Sooners or Mizzou I guess idk

[Kingofdudes]

I really don't want another SEC Champion. The amount of blowjobs they receive everywhere is just irritating beyond belief.

Go Sooners or Mizzou I guess idk

**** off non elite :angry:

[8ight8all]

It really is pretty irritating.

[YDload]

then maybe the SEC should stop being better than undefeated or one-loss champions from other conferences

[griftadan]

you mean ohio state

[Kingofdudes]

I mean, SEC kinda kicks *** tbh :/

you mean ohio state

lol Hawaii

[griftadan]

yeah but it's kind of sad when people like the conference better than their actual team

[YDload]

yeah like people who think the Pac-10 is good when it has one really good team and a bunch of scrubs. its like the AFC East or the NHL's Central Division

[Illmatic]

\when the NCAA whistleblowers inevitably find out what's going on in the SEC things will sort themselves out again.

[pjrocks7]

Usc Fight On

[8ight8all]

yeah but it's kind of sad when people like the conference better than their actual team

This.

I never knew anyone to be conference fans until SEC'ers came along and started fellating each other.

[The Stig]

I really don't want another SEC Champion. The amount of blowjobs they receive everywhere is just irritating beyond belief.

Go Sooners or Mizzou I guess idk

I guess embarrassing OSU two years in a row as well as Hawaii (forgot they were supposed to be in the BCS NC lmao) in addition to having the best out of conference record so far this year (2 of the 3 losses so far were last-second field goals in addition to there only being only 3 losses) means we don't deserve the attention we get.

And I always put my team over our conference, but we are hands-down the strongest out there at the moment. I mean 5 SEC teams are in the AP top-10 (not 25 even, but top-10).

[YDload]

auburn doesnt deserve to be in the top 10, what is this 3-2 **** you're playing the wrong football

[Illmatic]

I guess embarrassing OSU two years in a row as well as Hawaii (forgot they were supposed to be in the BCS NC lmao) in addition to having the best out of conference record so far this year (2 of the 3 losses so far were last-second field goals in addition to there only being only 3 losses) means we don't deserve the attention we get.

And I always put my team over our conference, but we are hands-down the strongest out there at the moment. I mean 5 SEC teams are in the AP top-10 (not 25 even, but top-10).

hey when you have no academic standards it's pretty easy to have the best players in the country

[Deth]

I guess embarrassing OSU two years in a row as well as Hawaii (forgot they were supposed to be in the BCS NC lmao) in addition to having the best out of conference record so far this year (2 of the 3 losses so far were last-second field goals in addition to there only being only 3 losses) means we don't deserve the attention we get.

And I always put my team over our conference, but we are hands-down the strongest out there at the moment. I mean 5 SEC teams are in the AP top-10 (not 25 even, but top-10).

ok now imagine hearing this 20 times a day for over a year.

I never said they don't deserve it, I'm just insanely sick of hearing about them.

[The Stig]

I'm sick of hearing about SoCal for the last 6 years.

And they need to get Tebow's chobey out of their mouth as well.

[8ight8all]

You hear about SoCal because they are always an elite team.

They gave the entire SEC more than enough love last year. LSU got plenty of coverage... PLENTY. We all know about how much ESPN and SI loves Tebow, the quarterback of a 4 loss SEC team that lost their bowl game. I could go on and on.

[guitrguy]

umm you are aware the quarterback is not the whole team right?

[griftadan]

so kstate isn't too good with juco players

[Pebster49]

umm you are aware the quarterback is not the whole team right?

Tell Hawaii that last year

[griftadan]

or florida

[The Stig]

And look at what happened to both of them when they played a team that was solid all around last year. If we shut down Tebow again (like we did when we lost 21-14 when Chris Leak still played there or last year's win), we will win the Florida game. They don't really have anyone else to rely on as much as they rely on Tebow. And Colt Brennan in the Sugar bowl, well yeah...

[guitrguy]

Tell Hawaii that last year

I'm talking about tebow. Florida actually plays in a conference where the QB alone will save you.

[Illmatic]

And look at what happened to both of them when they played a team that was solid all around last year. If we shut down Tebow again (like we did when we lost 21-14 when Chris Leak still played there or last year's win), we will win the Florida game. They don't really have anyone else to rely on as much as they rely on Tebow. And Colt Brennan in the Sugar bowl, well yeah...

god I can't wait for when Georgia blows it against Florida, LSU, Bama, and/or Auburn. it's just not a college football season until that happens.

[Deth]

I'll be at Florida State - Weak Florist tomorrow and it will be glorious. I will not leave with a voice.

[Cesar21]

The NC State game was awesome. Glad they won.

[Kingofdudes]

I wont be able to watch any football today :/ Hope Auburn kills LSU today

[Deth]

**** the gators

**** them

[Zmev]

ECU noooo

[YDload]

that interception by LSU was stupid. it was fourth down, they would have gotten better field position if he would have just knocked the ball down.

doesnt really matter because they scored, but hey... think about it.

[iamjoe2]

yeah.

whats the score? my shits weak so i dont get espn

[Kingofdudes]

I only caught the beginning of the LSU - Auburn game, but the final score disappoints :(

[The Stig]

It was crazy back and forth.

[The Stig]

So I will be at ESPN College Gameday this week with some of my friends. When I find out what posters we'll have, I'll let you guys know so you can look for me on TV. :D

[Rams]

Please bring back the "Lee Corso is a penis" poster. Or "Wade Boggs drank 64 beers on a cross-country flight" poster. Being original is for fags.

[The Stig]

I hate Lee Corso. I may try to think of something like Lee Corso has been hiting the bottle again or something since he was hit in the head by a bottle the last time he came to UGA.

[YDload]

the best sign on gameday ever

http://i36.tinypic.com/21oopp1.jpg

[YDload]

ahahahaha **** USC so ****ing hard. losing to a team that penn state beat 45-14, good job. ESPN is cryin

[Deth]

lol wut just happened

Also I have a soft spot for Corso because he's a Nole.

[MattSharpIsCool]

Hell ya Oregon State!

That's two times in a row USC has gone to Corvallis and lost. Ranked #3 in 2006 and #1 tonight.

[Zmev]

:h5: underachieving programs beating USC in the last two years.

[Jaymz Hetfield]

USC is one of the most talented teams in the nation, but they get soooo overhyped that it's ridiculous. They are clowns for losing to Oregon State. A team with that level of talent should not be losing games to bad-to-mediocre Pac-10 teams 3 years in a row.

Seriously, just give the winner of the SEC the National Championship and get it over with....it'll save some Big Ten or Big 12 school the embarrassment of an asswhooping.

[The Stig]

But USC does this every year. Stanford lat year? Oregon State two years ago? It seems to be their duty to lose where they have no right to do so at least once a season.

[griftadan]

no one with that easy of a recruiting job should lose games like that

[YDload]

they get all the hype after going 2-0 by beating teams that themselves werent that great after all. why does USC get two weeks between games anyway? why is their quarterback or running back always being hyped as a heisman favorite after two games? ugh so much gayness about USC

[Jaymz Hetfield]

they get all the hype after going 2-0 by beating teams that themselves werent that great after all. why does USC get two weeks between games anyway? why is their quarterback or running back always being hyped as a heisman favorite after two games? ugh so much gayness about USC

Just imagine if New York or Boston had any college teams that were legit contenders.

[YDload]

well matt ryan got an awful lot of hype despite being a fairly average QB at BC

[Deth]

He was pretty legit, and he's proving it now. He had a lot of picks, but most of the hype seemed to be with how well he would be able to transition to the next level.

[The Stig]

The UCONN Louisville game was a lot of fun to watch. Tomorrow will be a sick game, and I'll be stuck working in a concession stand. And If you ever thought reading youtube comments was bad, try reading responses to the ESPN blogs...

[Illmatic]

so I take it that USC losing to Oregon State in Corvallis only means that the Trojans are overrated chokers, but Florida losing to Ole Miss at home is a testament to how good the SEC is?

[guitrguy]

Go to hell Ole Miss

[Deth]

so I take it that USC losing to Oregon State in Corvallis only means that the Trojans are overrated chokers, but Florida losing to Ole Miss at home is a testament to how good the SEC is?

lol I was going to say something similar.

Good day overall. Noles win, Gators lose, Canes lose and the SEC hurts itself by taking down stronger teams.

[Zmev]

SEC Championship: Vanderbilt v Alabama

[YDload]

so I take it that USC losing to Oregon State in Corvallis only means that the Trojans are overrated chokers, but Florida losing to Ole Miss at home is a testament to how good the SEC is?

it just means the preseason rankings have yet to be fully done away with, so we get a lot of what seem like "upsets" when the first conference games are played.

although USC did choke, and they are overrated, because Oregon State really is bad normally. but that doesnt mean Florida didn't do those things either.

[whatthedeath?!?]

Man. BYU destroying UCLA doesn't look so impressive now. Not after you see their 1-3 record.

Either way, BYU for BCS buster. The only obstacle in the way of an undefeated season is the last game at Utah. Who could also have an undefeated season.

[Kingofdudes]

Jesus, Georgia didn't even look alive during the first half of that game.

[The Stig]

I'm pissed we did the blackout the way we did. Last year vs. Auburn was completely different in the fact nobody knew what was going on. There was at least some feeling of electricity in the stands and on campus before it started. This year, the fans were just as lazy as the team was, and the whole thing seemed gimmicky. There was almost absolutely no pregame atmosphere whatsoever. It appeared to me that the fans were just as complacent as the team, and it led to there being absolutely no crowd presence during the game.

With that said, I don't know what the hell happened except the players seemed to think it was theirs before the start. There were some dumb penalties near the start that led to some points, but those penalties didn't put 31 points on the board. From the little I could watch in the concession stand, we looked pretty good in the second half. I thought we could have staged a comeback until we got a little bit lazy again and they got the field goal towards the end. Alabama didn't play extremely well; we just played extremely crappily and lazily.

The biggest hurdle we have left is LSU, and if we beat them, I think we should still be in the SEC CG. Florida has not looked strong all season, and Auburn has lost their offense it appears. If they don't see significant strides in improvement, I see us winning those games unless we pull the same **** we did yesterday. At least SoCal and Florida lost this week to worse teams.

[Deth]

That's a lot of excuses really :-/

Georgia looked really young on the offensive line, and that will bite them badly if they don't get it together fast. Alabama is clearly in the very top tier in the country and Georgia probably was overhyped a little bit. I'm sure they'll be in contention for the SEC title again in a few weeks, but they aren't the far and away team to beat in the conference that they were made out to be.

And Tebow is a baby, so it equals out.

[The Stig]

What? Saying we played like utter crap in the first half doesn't sound like a cop out or anything. We had a worse loss against Tennessee last year that got our act together fast. We went from hoping to salvage our season to being a NCG contender at the end of the year. I'm hoping this is our Tennessee game from last year. At least we have an off week to collect ourselves before the next game.

[Deth]

Whatever, I got the impression from your post you were blaming the loss on everything but Alabama clearly outplaying you and possibly being the superior team. Time will tell I guess idk.

[The Stig]

Georgia is a good team and probably the best in the SEC East based on the other games I've watched. Florida struggling against Miami until Miami's defense gave out in the fourth quarter and later losing to Ole Miss. We made the trek out to Tempe and ran over the #2 team in the Pac-10 away. We beat South Carolina by one of our largest margins over the last 5 years or so (say what you will about them; the UGA-South Carolina game is almost always settled by less than a touchdown). Based on our earlier performances, it's pretty clear we didn't play up to our potential yesterday. The defense made some bonehead moves (like the roughing the passer that overturned an Alabama turnover in the red zone that would have saved 7 points and possibly given us a 14 point swing had we scored [ignoring the fact that there could have been a momentum shift/opportunity loss for Alabama based on the fact we would have had possession]). The first quarter especially, we made a ton of bonehead penalties that disrupted the game and gave Alabama the momentum. By the time we came out in the second half, it was too late. The game reminded me a lot of the Sugar Bowl against West Virginia when we let them get away with murder in the first half.

If you look at the numbers, the game was a fairly even matchup. We were only 10 yards behind Alabama in total yards offense, only had one more turnover than Alabama, and threw for 69 yards more than they did. It doesn't appear from total stats that they completely dominated us playing wise. The time of possession was a bit lopsided, but the only glaring differential was the penalty stat: 2 penalties for 9 yards for Alabama and 10 penalties for 81 yards for Georgia. Some of those early penalties made the difference in what should have been a very close game.

If the Georgia defense can correct the penalties, they should be back in the talk of the elite college teams this year. And Auburn and LSU better look out because I think Alabama will be the team to beat in the West now.

[griftadan]

so as it's shaping out kansas might play 5 top ten teams by the end of the year (south florida, oklahoma, texas, texas tech, missouri), including potentially the #1 and the #2. texas or OU will be hurt by the fact that they play each other before either faces ku

this season could get ugly for us, i expect we lose no more than 3 more though

[YDload]

The Big 12 is the new SEC. another conference full of powerhouse teams that beat each other up to once again allow the Big Ten champion to go to the title game by default.

[Acey]

lol its sad because its true.

[DJ Ducksauce]

Our season will get exciting for a bit finally when we meet OU in 2 weeks. :D Gonna be one hell of a scary game on our end though haha. Then Mizzou, TTech, and KU too I suppose.

[Illmatic]

ugh, that loss to Penn State still smarts. if the game was in Champaign the Illini woulda won.

even so, Arrelious Benn = best WR in college football

[whatthedeath?!?]

Okay. How do you figure? I've never seen him play, so maybe I'm wrong here, but statistically, he's basically mediocre.

I see you're an Illini fan. I'm a BYU fan. So lets compare my favorite from my team, to your favorite from your team, statistically.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=232318 - Arrelious Benn - Illini

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=161996 - Austin Collie - BYU

Granted, he has more carrer stats, because he's played 1 more year, but break it down year by year. Freshman to freshman, and Sophomore to sophomore, and projected to projected, this year.

Arrelious Benn can't be considered even top ten in the league. Probably not even his conference. He's 92nd in total yards, 86th in receptions, and not even on the map in anything else.

Now, I'm not saying Austin Collie IS the best in the league, but he's a heckuva lot better than Benn.

You wanna talk best in the league, straight up statistics, I'd vote Jarett Dillard from Rice. That kids putting up some serious numbers.

[Rams]

According to ESPN Crabtree is the best college WR ever.

[Illmatic]

Okay. How do you figure? I've never seen him play, so maybe I'm wrong here, but statistically, he's basically mediocre.

I see you're an Illini fan. I'm a BYU fan. So lets compare my favorite from my team, to your favorite from your team, statistically.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=232318 - Arrelious Benn - Illini

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=161996 - Austin Collie - BYU

Granted, he has more carrer stats, because he's played 1 more year, but break it down year by year. Freshman to freshman, and Sophomore to sophomore, and projected to projected, this year.

Arrelious Benn can't be considered even top ten in the league. Probably not even his conference. He's 92nd in total yards, 86th in receptions, and not even on the map in anything else.

Now, I'm not saying Austin Collie IS the best in the league, but he's a heckuva lot better than Benn.

You wanna talk best in the league, straight up statistics, I'd vote Jarett Dillard from Rice. That kids putting up some serious numbers.

who the **** is Austin Collie and since when are stats important in football

[whatthedeath?!?]

who the **** is Austin Collie and since when are stats important in football

That's kind of what I said about Benn, when you started with him.

Seriously? That's the best you can come up with, after getting your *** handed to you? Stats aren't important?

You're right. We shouldn't even CONSIDER wins and losses when deciding who's the best team, because stats like that just aren't important. Its all about heart, and who wanted it more. Give me a break.

[whatthedeath?!?]

According to ESPN Crabtree is the best college WR ever.

Again, not Benn.

[Zmev]

Yeah theres no such thing as a cheap win or playing an easy schedule thats for sure.

[whatthedeath?!?]

Yeah theres no such thing as a cheap win or playing an easy schedule thats for sure.

But that's what the BCS is for, right? :rolleyes:

And we've all seen how ridiculous that has been over the last few years.

[Deth]

As much as I hate the Gators, I think it's pretty hard to argue against Harvin as the best in the country. Their offense lives and dies off of him.

[Illmatic]

That's kind of what I said about Benn, when you started with him.

Seriously? That's the best you can come up with, after getting your *** handed to you? Stats aren't important?

You're right. We shouldn't even CONSIDER wins and losses when deciding who's the best team, because stats like that just aren't important. Its all about heart, and who wanted it more. Give me a break.

Benn was the top WR in his recruiting class and is considered a top pro prospect. he's got good speed (especially considering his size and strength), has great hands, and for a true soph runs pretty good routes (has he gets more experience and more field awareness he should get better). his stats aren't great mainly because the Illini run the spread option--which doesn't mean a lot of touches for wide recievers. also, he faces double teams quite a bit because he's the top threat in the passing game. I don't know Austin Collie all that well but BYU passes the ball a lot, so I would guess that they'd be able to throw any half-decent wide reciever on the field and be productive (a la Texas Tech or Hawaii when June Jones was coaching them).

stats aren't completely worthless but relying on them as your main judgment for a player is idiotic. unless you think Colt Brennan is the best quarterback ever.

[whatthedeath?!?]

Yeah, you've got some pretty good points, but beyond stats, I know nothing about Benn. I've never seen him in a game situation, so I couldn't possibly argue the point anymore. Except to say that BYU also has some outstanding recievers, and they're a helluva lot more than just targets to be thrown at.

[Rams]

Most people I've seen say Crabtree or Singleton is the best WR in college. Singleton is an absolute freak though.

[Deth]

The Florida State - Miami game caused me to have about 9 heart attacks. That was the wildest second half I've ever seen.

[The Stig]

Lmao @ Vandy beating Auburn. If they beat Mississippi state (which face it, they should), they'll be undefeated and possibly ranked higher than us when they come to Athens in two weeks. I should be able to get a pretty penny for my ticket if that's the case (as I have to work concessions again for that game).

And Kentucky is really looking good so far too.

[guitrguy]

I will channel all of my energies for an upset.

[The Stig]

LMAO @ beating Vandy becoming an upset now.

[guitrguy]

um MSU beating any school that's in a real conference is an upset

[Kingofdudes]

lol @ Auburn, this was just waiting to happen though. Bama may actually beat them for the first time in 7 years (though I will be laughing my *** off if they don't).

[Deth]

ugh I needed Clemson to win that one.

[guitrguy]

**** my job for preventing me from going to the Vandy v. MSU game.

[Deth]

Texas-OU is really good, but there have been some really bad calls.

[Cesar21]

Texas game was awesome, I'm happy for them.

[DJ Ducksauce]

Haha yeah. Man that was a hell of a game. We're movin' on up. :D Mizzou next weekend.

[guitrguy]

wtf wtf wtf wtf wtf the one game I miss MSU has the lead against a ranked team halfway through the 4th quarter
**** YES UPSET!!!!!!

[Deth]

*claps* I don't care about the SEC teams, but I'll root for an MXers school.

Also **** the gators **** tebow **** meyer I ****ing hate those ****ing queers

[DJ Ducksauce]

Haha man I loved how today turned out. LSU and Mizzou getting beat is great for us. #2 what what? I'm anxious to see what the polls are like tomorrow.

You at Fl. State Deth?

[The Stig]

*claps* I don't care about the SEC teams, but I'll root for an MXers school.

Also **** the gators **** tebow **** meyer I ****ing hate those ****ing queers

Alright looks like we have someone else supporting UGA.

We looked alright vs. Tennessee, though I was extremely drunk at the game and my friend made me leave at halftime so he could sleep in the dining hall and I had to watch him.

[IsItLuck?]

Good think I didn't see this thread when the season started otherwise I would have said Rutgers were going to be a contender for the Big East. Now that I said that, I can say that Rutgers are disappointing me beyond words, the Big East is hurting itself with each game they play and it's just a horrid situation.

So, beyond rooting for everyone in the Big East (one of which will get a BCS bowl bid and somehow win that game like WVU in the past few years), I'd say Penn State look like the best team in the nation, and the Big 12 are definitely the best conference in the nation.

[The Stig]

The Big XII definitely looks like they have the most explosive offenses this year, but their defenses aren't impressing me too much.

I mean Texas is able to get 45 points, but they gave up 35 to do that. And Texas Tech's defense didn't help them in the game either (until they decided to show up for overtime, but that was a pass anyone should have picked off if they'd been anywhere near it).

I'd still give the SEC an edge in defense at this point in the season and consider giving the Big XII the edge in offense, but I'd want to see a top Big XII team like Mizzou or Oklahoma take on a top SEC team like UGA or Florida before I said one conference is better than the other yet.

[Rams]

Which defense in the SEC has been impressive? I get you are a Georgia fan, but the Texas score was no different than the Alabama-Georgia score. LSU has given up a ton of points, Georgia has given up a ton of points, Auburn has given up a ton of points, and Flordia/Vandy have lost to teams they had no business losing to. All the SEC really has right now is Alabama and the hope that one of their other teams will live up to potential.

It's just too bad the Big 12 is so lopsided. The north blows and the south is stacked.

[DJ Ducksauce]

The Big XII definitely looks like they have the most explosive offenses this year, but their defenses aren't impressing me too much.

I mean Texas is able to get 45 points, but they gave up 35 to do that.

But take into account that we hadn't given up more than 14 points in a game before that. And giving up 35 to one of the top offenses in the nation isn't something to be ashamed of haha. True we could have done better, but still...

We're #1! :D

[Deth]

I'm guessing the NC will be between the winner of the Big XII and the SEC unless USC blows everyone up somehow, but I don't see that happening.

And as long as it's not the Gators, I'm fine with that situation.
You at Fl. State Deth?

Yup


you have to admit LSU is a bigger large bundle of sticks than florida
Probably to most people, but I'm not in the same position as them.

[The Stig]

The best team Texas played before OU was Colorado, so I wouldn't expect you guys to give up many points even with a mediocre defense.

And what the **** USC is idle and jumps two spots while we roll over Tennessee and stay stagnant?

[Zmev]

Tennessee ain't what it used to be. Losing to UCLA will do that to you.

[Illmatic]

The Big XII definitely looks like they have the most explosive offenses this year, but their defenses aren't impressing me too much.

I mean Texas is able to get 45 points, but they gave up 35 to do that. And Texas Tech's defense didn't help them in the game either (until they decided to show up for overtime, but that was a pass anyone should have picked off if they'd been anywhere near it).

yeah they gave up 35 points but it was to the #1 team in the country. top 10 teams usually have pretty good offenses, look what happened to the mighty Georgia defense against Bama.

[Zmev]

Alabama scored 17 points against Kentucky.

[The Stig]

The little 3-2 Deal with Auburn and Miss State.

Arizona State only getting 10 points at home against UGA.

UGA only allowing 17 points against a 4-2 Central Michigan team who has scored 31, 31, 25, 27, and 24 points, with most of those points coming in the third quarter against our second String defense.

South Carolina v. UGA being a 14-7 affair. And South Carolina shutting out NC State 35-0.

Kentucky only allowing 2 points against a Louisville team that was supposed to be an offensive powerhouse as well as only allowing 17 points against Alabama.

Alabama only allowing 10 points against then ninth ranked Clemson.

Florida only allowing 10 points vs. Hawai'i, 3 against Miami, and 6 against Tennessee.

So far SEC defenses have looked better overall than Big XII defenses. We need to see some good teams from each side play each other before giving everything to one or the other.

But I do think the NCG will be the Big XII champ. Vs. the SEC. My bet will be Texas vs. Mizzou and UGA vs. Alabama.

[griftadan]

ku is in the lead of the north, not so fast

[The Stig]

Kansas is alright, but I think they are going to fall to the stronger conference teams.

[Illmatic]

all those teams are pretty bad

The little 3-2 Deal with Auburn and Miss State.

both Auburn and MSU are pretty incompetent on offense

Arizona State only getting 10 points at home against UGA.

Arizona State is 2-4 and hasnt scored more than 20 points against anyone except Northern Arizona (which to be fair is like the Florida Gators of directional Arizona schools) and Stanford

UGA only allowing 17 points against a 4-2 Central Michigan team who has scored 31, 31, 25, 27, and 24 points, with most of those points coming in the third quarter against our second String defense.

fun fact: CMU did that against Eastern Illinois, Ohio, Purdue, Buffalo, and Temple (with the latter 2 being among the worst D-1 football programs of the last 15 years)

South Carolina v. UGA being a 14-7 affair. And South Carolina shutting out NC State 35-0.

so South Carolina shut out the worst team in the ACC at home? ok that actually is pretty impressive.

Kentucky only allowing 2 points against a Louisville team that was supposed to be an offensive powerhouse as well as only allowing 17 points against Alabama.

to be fair Lousiville is a very good offensive team so long as their opponent isn't that good

Alabama only allowing 10 points against then ninth ranked Clemson.

it was impressive at the time but Clemson is a trainwreck this year. they may not even make it to a Bowl game.

Florida only allowing 10 points vs. Hawai'i, 3 against Miami, and 6 against Tennessee.

Hawaii sucks and those numbers against Miami and the Vols would have been really impressive like 8 years ago.

this is asinine. I could say that Big XII defenses have been impressive because OK State only gave up 13 points to Wazzu, Texas held Arkansas to 10 points, Colorado held West Virginia to 14 points, Kansas shut out Louisiana Tech and Mizzou only gave up 17 to Nebraska (and one of those touchdowns came in garbage time!)

[griftadan]

Kansas is alright, but I think they are going to fall to the stronger conference teams.

yeah i know i was being too serious

would be nice to make it to the conference title game this year, with mizzou loosing it means ku can afford to drop another to texas or ou and still make it by beating mizzou at arrowhead

[Rams]

USC is going to have the inside track because everyone already thinks they are the best team and play crap the rest of the way. Only chance to keep them out is if two undefeated teams make it.

[The Stig]

yeah i know i was being too serious

would be nice to make it to the conference title game this year, with mizzou loosing it means ku can afford to drop another to texas or ou and still make it by beating mizzou at arrowhead

Oh Kansas still has a chance; they just haven't looked as much like an elite team like the others did. Hell, even OSU has a shot at the Big XII after the Mizzou game (I thought Mizzou was better than OU), but they are in the same division as UT and OU (and even TT for that matter), so that only hurts their chances. The South Big XII is easily the best division in football (they are markedly better than the North, and as for my SEC comments earlier, I think SEC talent is more spread between the east and west divisions).

And to Rams -- I think SoCal is digging themselves out of a hole with the schedule they play and their loss being against a nobody team. The Big XII and SEC are both the top conferences this year, and if they both produce a one-loss team, those teams will most likely be in the NCG, be it UGA, UF, LSU, or Alabama for the SEC or UT, OU, Mizzou, TT, or OSU for the Big XII. All seven of those teams play a much harder schedule than SoCal does.

[Deth]

Any guesses on winners of each BCS conference?

I say:
Big East: South Florida (ugh I hope not though)
Big 10: Penn State (no one can keep up with them there it seems)
Big 12: Texas (only due to a tie breaker, I don't see Oklahoma losing again)
Pac-10: USC (c'mon)
ACC: Wake Forest (:()
SEC: Alabama (complete guess and subject to change each week, but fairly obvious now without a loss)

[IsItLuck?]

Big East: Pittsburgh
Big 10: Penn State (I do not want to see Ohio State in a BCS game ever again)
Big 12: Texas
Pac-10: USC
ACC: UNC (surprise pick, Butch Davis has really come along this year with coaching his talent)
SEC: Bama (I hope)

[The Stig]

I think Big XII is too close to call right now.

The SEC East will be between whoever wins the UGA-Florida game. I think if we end up playing Bama for the SEC Championship, we have an advantage in that we played them already and they may get the entitlement syndrome (like we had when we played them) if they play us again. Regardless, the SEC is going to be another close matchup and we need to see what Alabama does against LSU as well.

Big 10 -- Penn State actually looks like a very good team. Way better than anyone else in the Big 10.

ACC -- Ga Tech anyone? They look alright so far.

Pac-10 -- SoCal

Big East -- USF


I still think a lot of this is too early to call though.

[IsItLuck?]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3640760
I change my vote from UNC winning the ACC to VT

[Illmatic]

...and Clemson fires Tommy Bowden. that was about 4 years overdue.

[IsItLuck?]

yeah and the recruits Clemson had from this year are all bailing ship. Good news for other teams in ACC land

[whatthedeath?!?]

Man alive. BYU played absolutely terrible football this week.

[IsItLuck?]

yessir!

[8ight8all]

Of course you all know USC is gonna win it out and play in national title game.
Sometimes I hate being a UCLA fan.

[IsItLuck?]

as long as Ohio State is out of a BCS game, I'm satisfied. They have been too much of an embarrassment in big games for me to stomach (sup USC vs. Ohio State and the past two - maybe three? - BCS games)

[8ight8all]

No Big Ten allowed.

[Zmev]

Except Penn State if they run the table.

[8ight8all]

They can go to the Rose Bowl.

[Deth]

Sideshow Bob, can you tell me how that Georgia victory was far more impressive than it looked?

[RG560M]

So I picked last night to be my first football game to ever go watch in person.


AND WHAT A GAME I PICKED!

UK V. ARKANSAS! Amazing comeback!

[The Stig]

Sideshow Bob, can you tell me how that Georgia victory was far more impressive than it looked?

No need to troll but if you want my postgame analysis:

We played a reasonably good game against a ranked opponent. Moreno and Green had very good games. The team greatly cut back on penalties overall. Only major problem was a pair of interceptions that killed good drives (one of which was a batted pass). We also had field goals missed, but they haven't been recurring issues, so I'm not too concerned about that yet. They looked as good or better than Alabama this week (who has had some serious issues of finishing the drill so far). With Cody out and a tougher part of their schedule coming up, they need to be careful (as do we).

I would still like to see what happens to some of the Big XII teams in the future...Even the ESPN commentators this week were saying things about godawful defenses in the Big XII.

So far, the computer rankings are comforting to me in the BCS rankings. And I think the media polls vs. the computer rankings for SoCal kind of show the favoritism they are shown for playing in as weak a conference as they do.

[YDload]

USC's conference schedule is almost as weak as many Big Ten teams' early season opponents

[Deth]

No need to troll but if you want my postgame analysis:

We played a reasonably good game against a ranked opponent. Moreno and Green had very good games. The team greatly cut back on penalties overall. Only major problem was a pair of interceptions that killed good drives (one of which was a batted pass). We also had field goals missed, but they haven't been recurring issues, so I'm not too concerned about that yet. They looked as good or better than Alabama this week (who has had some serious issues of finishing the drill so far). With Cody out and a tougher part of their schedule coming up, they need to be careful (as do we).

I would still like to see what happens to some of the Big XII teams in the future...Even the ESPN commentators this week were saying things about godawful defenses in the Big XII.

So far, the computer rankings are comforting to me in the BCS rankings. And I think the media polls vs. the computer rankings for SoCal kind of show the favoritism they are shown for playing in as weak a conference as they do.
Sorry, I wasn't trying to be facetious there, but I really haven't seen much that impresses me about Georgia besides being a good SEC team. That could (and hopefully will) change against Floriduh.

In the future it looks like USC is going to have to earn their living by the toughest OOC schedule they can put together.

[The Stig]

Washington State is probably the worst team in I-A football.

And I think either all conferences should play conference championship games in order to be considered for the NCG or final polls should be done before conference championships. It's not right a team can cakewalk through a weak major conference like the Pac-10 or Big 10 and not have to play a championship game against the conference's second best team (thus risking a loss and drop in the standings) while a good SEC or Big XII team has to deal with the likelihood of facing a strong team (many times for the second time in the season) and dropping while playing the extra week.


And to Deth -- I'm not going to say it was a perfect game. Like I said, we had two turnovers that killed including one that I understand was right near the goal line (I was stuck working concessions again this week and had to rely on ESPN's articles after the game). I still think LSU looked unimpressive against South Carolina and Florida has been unimpressive save one or two games. And this Florida team is one we can beat, since we seem to have Tebow's number all the time (in the 21-14 loss when Leak was the primary QB, we shut down Tebow as well as last year). I'll be at that game, though, so it should be interesting.

[Deth]

Completely agree about the Conference Championships. There's no reason the BCS shouldn't make it mandatory for the automatic bid conferences.

[The Stig]

Especially since one of the big arguments last year for LSU over UGA going to the NCG was the fact they won a conference CG and UGA did not. What did tOSU do in that regard? Say what you will about disappointments UGA has done this year, they were arguably one of the strongest teams at the end of last year (along with OU, LSU, SoCal, and perhaps VT).

[Deth]

Well yeah, that's what I'm basing my current evaluation of UGA off. I don't feel they've lived up to what they should be.

Also the ACC makes my head hurt but that's ok because FSU is now back in the driver's seat.

[IsItLuck?]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcdWdBgUBqw
The most ridiculous thing you will ever see from a ref.
(gamecocks vs. LSU game)

[The Stig]

I saw that, but they didn't seem to replay it much. And I never had noticed that it seemed the ref went for him like it appears he did in that clip. If I were on USC, I'd lodge a complaint if possible.

[Illmatic]

And I think either all conferences should play conference championship games in order to be considered for the NCG or final polls should be done before conference championships. It's not right a team can cakewalk through a weak major conference like the Pac-10 or Big 10 and not have to play a championship game against the conference's second best team (thus risking a loss and drop in the standings) while a good SEC or Big XII team has to deal with the likelihood of facing a strong team (many times for the second time in the season) and dropping while playing the extra week.

Completely agree about the Conference Championships. There's no reason the BCS shouldn't make it mandatory for the automatic bid conferences.

aside from the fact that you need 12+ teams in a conference for a championship to even make sense.

the Big Ten would need to add or drop someone and get a championship (and then that raises the question of who it would be) because trying to divide a conference of 11 into two divisions would be inherently unfair to one side. but every team in the Pac-10 plays each other over the course of the season so making them play a championship would be asinine.

[The Stig]

Most SEC and Big XII teams that matter play each other throughout the season, and many the times the CCG is a meeting between two teams who already played in the regular season. And the MAC has an uneven distribution between sides, so there is precedent for that for the Big 10 to split with 11 teams.

And having two less teams doesn't make much of a difference when it comes to splitting them up. Look at the MLB for examples of that. There are some divisions with only 4 teams (AL West) and a division with six (NL Central). But we don't see people complaining that different divisions in baseball having different numbers leads to postseason drama.

Though I really think the best course of action would be a 16-team playoff. The FCS teams do it (and are expanding to 20 in a few years). Give automatic bids to the top teams of the big 6 conferences (ACC, SEC, Big XII, Big 10, Big East, and Pac-10) and reset the BCS rankings without these teams. Then, if there are any teams from other conferences in the top 12, take the top 2 of those. Fill out the rest of the brackets with the top 8 teams left in the rankings ignoring conference affiliation.

[Cesar21]

I haven't gotten around to see an Alabama game, but all I've heard is that they are a killer team, and the numbers speak for themselves. I have seen Texas play... I would like to know, who do you guys think would win in a head to head game, Texas or Alabama?

And is third seed Penn State good enough to over take the top 2 and reach #1? Haven't seen them play either.

[The Stig]

Penn State hasn't played anyone yet, so I think it's early to say it.

Alabama plays great for the first half and starts hemorrhaging points in the second half. They almost lost to Kentucky and Old Miss the last couple of weeks. And their big defensive nose tackle is out for a few weeks, so we'll see what happens.

Texas has an amazing offense, but their defense looks shaky. I'd want to see what they do against teams with a good offense.

[Illmatic]

There are some divisions with only 4 teams (AL West) and a division with six (NL Central). But we don't see people complaining that different divisions in baseball having different numbers leads to postseason drama.

it does make it a lot easier for a team in the AL West to make the playoffs than in any other division (thru sheer virtue of less competition; it's easier to finish 1st or 2nd in a division of 4 teams than with 5 or 6 teams, and how many games did the Angels get to beat up on Seattle and Oakland this year? as opposed to the Cubs dealing with the Brewers, Cards, and Astros as well as the Pirates and Reds)

Most SEC and Big XII teams that matter play each other throughout the season, and many the times the CCG is a meeting between two teams who already played in the regular season.

even so one of the reasons a championship makes sense is because in those conferences you don't play every conference opponent in a given season, which gives the championship a chance to settle the debate between two teams that hadn't played each other during the regular season (ie Tennessee vs. LSU last year, Florida vs. Arkansas in 06, LSU vs. Georgia the year before that, etc). of course the Big 12 doesn't apply to this as much because the South has recently been stronger than the North

I'd want to see what they do against teams with a good offense.

you mean like Oklahoma

[DJ Ducksauce]

Texas has an amazing offense, but their defense looks shaky. I'd want to see what they do against teams with a good offense.

Haha so what were OU and Mizzou?

Holding Mizzou to only a FG in the first half isn't too bad I think. Although we did let up quite a bit the second half.

Ok. St. and Tech in the next 2 games, then Kansas 2 weeks after Tech with those 2 being away. I wouldn't say we're playing bad offenses haha.

EDIT: Oh, and Orakpo is amazing. It'll be sad to seem him go next year.

[The Stig]

Sorry meat defense there. I'm interested to see what Texas or OU would do against a defense like Alabama or Florida.

[Rams]

http://i36.tinypic.com/2u95q2c.gif
I love SEC defense.

[Zmev]

He just wanted the Bud Light.

[The Stig]

I'm surprised more hasn't been made out of that. At first it looked like he was just trying to get out of the way, but after the replays, it looks like he plants and turns into Garcia.

[Illmatic]

Sorry meat defense there. I'm interested to see what Texas or OU would do against a defense like Alabama or Florida.

so nothing is legit unless it happens against the SEC :rolleyes:

[8ight8all]

Auburn lost to WVU. Thank god.