I Have Found One Good Rap Song.

[superjoe]

Street Hassle by Lou Reed. There you go. This is what potential rap has, and really shows how ineffectively it is being used by every other "rap" artist.

[Seantmpc13]

Does this mean that every other rap song is bad?

[Iai]

I have found one good rock song.

I Ain't Going Out Like That by Cypress Hill. There you go. This is what potential rock has, and really shows ineffectively it is being used by every other "rock" artist.

[Interstate]

Lol.

[okay]

is this a joke thread?

[Polyshka]

Street Hassle by Lou Reed. There you go. This is what potential rap has, and really shows how ineffectively it is being used by every other "rap" artist.

Name a "rap" artist that is doing it "ineffectively" and how.

[superjoe]

Name a "rap" artist that is doing it "ineffectively" and how.

2pac
50 Cent
8 Ball & MJG
Above The Law
Angie Martinez
B.I.G. (Biggie Smalls)
Bad Azz
Beanie Sigel
Big L
Big Punisher
Big Syke
Bizzy Bone
Black Rob
Bone Thugs-n-Harmony
Busta Rhymes
Caddillac Tah
Cam'Ron
Canibus
Cassidy
C-Bo
Chamillionaire
Chingy
C-Murder
Coolio
Cyprus Hill
D-12
Daz Dillinger
Dead Prez
Digital Underground
Dipset / Diplomats
DJ Yella (N.W.A.)
DMX
Dogg Pound
Dr Dre
Eazy-E
Eminem
Eric B. (Solo)
Eric B. & Rakim (Group)
Eve
Fat Joe
Fatal
Flesh-n-Bone
Freakey Zeekey
Funkmaster Flex
GhostFace Killah
Goldie Loc
G-Unit
The Game
Hell Rell
Ice Cube
Ice T
Ja Rule
Jadakiss
Jay-Z
Jermaine Dupri
Jim Jones
Joe Budden
J.R. Writer
Juelz Santana
Kadafi
Kanye West
Krayzie Bone
KRS-One
Kurupt
Lady Of Rage
Layzie Bone
Lil Flip
Lil Jon/Eastside Boyz
Lil Kim
Lil Wayne
LL Cool J
LOX
Ludacris
Luniz
Mack-10
Master P
MC-Ren
Method Man
Missy Elliot
MJG (& 8 Ball)
Mo Thugs Family
Mobb Deep
Mopreme Shakur
Mos Def
Mystikal
N.O.R.E.
N.W.A.
Napolean
Nas
Nate Dogg
Nelly
Notorous B.I.G.
Obie Trice
Ol' Dirty Bastard
Outkast
Outlawz
Papoose
P.Diddy
Public Enemy
Q-Tip
Raekwon
Rakim (Solo)
Eric B. & Rakim (Group)
Redman
Richie Rich
Ruff Ryders
RZA
Saigon
Scarface
Shock G
Snoop Dogg
T.I.
Talib Kweli
Tha Dogg Pound
Tha Eastsidaz
The Game
Timbaland
Trick Daddy
Trina
Twista
Warren G
W.C.
Westside Connection
Wish Bone
Wu-Tang Clan
Wyclef Jean
Xzibit
Dj Yella (NWA)
Young Jeezy


To name a few.

I would consider the use of rap as a technique rather than a genre to be ineffectively used. Rap as a technique is wasted on ridiculous music such a rap (genre) and hip hop.

To clarify, I would compare it to, as a technique, sweep picking on a guitar. Generally reserved for shred metal wanking, people such as Django Reinhardt use it very effectively to make great, highly sophisticated music.

[Russell]

you're a cunt

[superjoe]

Oh my, is that all you got?

[Russell]

copy pasting a list of rappers then name dropping Django Reinhardt isn't exactly much (read as not at all) of a support to your original assertion. Consequently, that's all you deserve.

[superjoe]

I copy and pasted a list of rappers. I've heard every single one of them at one point or another, and felt they all represent what my point was.

I could also point out that artists such as Woody Guthrie use a rapping technique in some songs, that, while I enjoy it, is not very musically interesting. It's appeal is more in the historical importance of what he says. So, I was not dropping Django's name for the sake of name dropping. I was using an artist that is very widely agreed to have possessed a great talent, opposed to a majority of artists that make music that has very little substance. There are many others that could be listed, but Django was the first comparison that came to mind.

Also, the statement I made referring to "one good rap song" was more or less an exageration. I am aware that there are good artists in any field, as well as bad artists.

[Russell]

but you never explained why they lack in whatever capacity you mean.

You can talk about how great your favorite artists are but they have nothing to do with the validity of rap.

[iarescientists]

i'm causin' more family feuds than richard dawson
and the survey says
you're dead
fatal flying guillotine
cuts off you're ****ing head

if you can't appreciate that verse in any sense you're a ****ing idiot

[superjoe]

but you never explained why they lack in whatever capacity you mean.

You can talk about how great your favorite artists are but they have nothing to do with the validity of rap.

Oh, would you quit with the favorite artist crap? You can clearly see, in both examples, they were only mentioned to clarify a point.

Those artists listed, cheapen and over use rapping. I don't think there is any need to explain what makes good music good, and bad music bad. It comes down to a matter of opinion, and you won't ever prove me wrong, and I won't ever fully prove myself right. But I honestly think that a song such as Street Hassle really shows that rap can be used in an effective way without using catchy beats and heavy bass grooves.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1kc4EwD5hoA&feature=related

[iarescientists]

i really doubt you've listened to many of those artists you listed if you think they use rapping negatively and if you have it's just one or two songs and not enough to base an entire argument such as this on.

[superjoe]

Whatever you say, hoss.

I can't tell if you like Joanna Newsom or not.

[Polyshka]

But I honestly think that a song such as Street Hassle really shows that rap can be used in an effective way without using catchy beats and heavy bass grooves.


Rap is not a technique, it's a genre. Catchy beats and heavy bass grooves are the staple of rap as a genre. You can't just "consider rap a technique." That's not how it works. It's a genre of viable music.

[okay]

have you ever listened to Cannibal Ox, Freestyle Fellowship, or De La Soul?

[iarescientists]

Whatever you say, hoss.

It's just that you put KRS-One on your list of rappers that aren't using rapping effectively, and then you post a video that uses a quote of his to support its argument.

It's just incredibly confusing.

[Russell]

Oh, would you quit with the favorite artist crap? You can clearly see, in both examples, they were only mentioned to clarify a point.

Those artists listed, cheapen and over use rapping. I don't think there is any need to explain what makes good music good, and bad music bad. It comes down to a matter of opinion, and you won't ever prove me wrong, and I won't ever fully prove myself right. But I honestly think that a song such as Street Hassle really shows that rap can be used in an effective way without using catchy beats and heavy bass grooves.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1kc4EwD5hoA&feature=related

You are ****ing retarded. Learn what subjectivity means, and quit asserting.

[thunderzstruck]

Why don't you try listening to:

Jurassic 5
The Roots
Aesop Rock
Soul Position
Eyedea and Abilities (probably my favorite)
pos

[Dies Irae]

lol

[okay]

Why don't you try listening to:

Jurassic 5
The Roots
Aesop Rock
Soul Position
Eyedea and Abilities (probably my favorite)
pos

my list is better than yours

[superjoe]

I just like causing a stir.

[okay]

i had a feeling

[superjoe]

Well that's good.

But seriously, Street Hassle is a heck of a song.

[EightMilesHigh]

http://drecosby.ytmnd.com/

[superjoe]

Thanks, Bill.

[SHOOTME]

what an incredible faggot

[superjoe]

Yes, that's right. I like men. Incredibly.

[Happymeal]

I love how you made this thread after five years of posting on mx

[superjoe]

Yeah, all these people are retarded who got all pissy.

[Meatplow]

Stone Temple Pilots are a pretty tight rap grup.

[MC Ban Hammer]

who dis punk bitch dis'n on eveybody like he think he be superfly an shi mang