JFAC's descent

[The Feeding]

The EP is generally seen as influential in forming the deathcore genre. It was originally released on King of the Monsters records, but a larger record label spotted the band and signed them, and the album was re-released on their current record label, Metal Blade Records, in 2006 with a bonus track.

Genesis, was released on May 15, 2007. And it was lackluster at best, same old same boring death metal, (i said death metal, not deathcore, understand?) They completely changed a winning formula for the sake of becoming a bigger band.

MY QUESTION!
how did a band full of youthful energy, talent and musicianship in a few short years become the biggest thing in metal. And than fell flat on their faces, doing all the things metal bands do later in their careers to alienate their fan base and basically piss off everyone who ever supported them?? Drunken stage mishaps, stupid tour stories involving way too much booze. And in a recent interview Jonny Davy was complaining about all the boring down time and driving YOU'RE ON F*CKING TOUR!! suck it up you're headlining shows with bands 10 years your senior and b*tching about it the whole time!!

maybe it's just me, it seems they are just kids with a record contract who think their sh*t don't stink because they made a bunch of 16 year olds start deathcore bands and pig squeal in their garages....they don't appreciate anything it seems

Anyone else sick of hearing about how brutal they are??
Go back to Glendale and live with your parents, get a real job. Leave the music up to the professionals

[Ghoul Hustler]

what

they're a really good band that makes good music. They have more fans now than they did back with the EP. Also, they said they didn't want the deathcore sound and wanted to write death metal, so they did. Stop talking about "selling out".

[Luc214]

They were never really very good.

[adb]

MY QUESTION!
how did a band full of youthful energy, talent and musicianship in a few short years become the biggest thing in metal.

http://www.myspace.com

[rasputin]

did you mean descent in the title?

[omgwtfboogie]

tl;dr

But seriously, your conclusions lost validity when you claimed JFAC was ever decent.*

*Maybe I should have typed 'descent' so that we could trade words and both of us would make sense.

[The Feeding]

just my opinion. I LOVE the EP...Genesis was garbage, redundant death metal.

[Luc214]

It's true the EP is better, but that's not saying much.

[Ghoul Hustler]

It's true the EP is better, but that's not saying much.

you made that point in your first post

[rasputin]

yeah, it was okay at best. It wasn't so much of a descent as a shift sideways into another genre, retaining the same low quality.
However, the song from the first demo called Day in Black is really good, I've always liked that track.

[The Feeding]

i'm not saying they are god's gift to music, that's the point of it all.
Way too much exposure for a band that's not really that great

[rasputin]

Way too much exposure for a band that's not really that great
It's not like this is the first time it's ever happened, deal with it.

[The Feeding]

at the expense of amazing bands like Behemoth who have to play BEFORE these punks?

[Ghoul Hustler]

hahaha, Behemoth is terrible

[Luc214]

hahaha, Behemoth is terrible

No.

[rasputin]

yeah Behemoth aren't that great either dude

[Ghoul Hustler]

Behemoth is almost a joke band

[omgwtfboogie]

yeah, JFAC and Behemoth belong together for sure. the order you prefer to enjoy **** in is entirely up to you, but is largely irrelevant to a proper argument...

[The Feeding]

the only reason i brought it up is that band has been around since '93 or something working hard to make it and they get overlooked because some overnight sensation band did the right thing at the right time

[adb]

the only reason i brought it up is that band has been around since '93 or something working hard to make it and they get overlooked because some overnight sensation band did the right thing at the right time

cry some more

[omgwtfboogie]

the only reason i brought it up is that band has been around since '93 or something working hard to make it and they get overlooked because some overnight sensation band did the right thing at the right time

I get what you mean. My honest opinion is that Behemoth > JFAC, I just don't see how this discussion is really beneficial, as it neither changes anything or helps the reader understand music better.

[The Feeding]

wait...my bad...i thought people could use the internet to voice opinions..

[omgwtfboogie]

wait...my bad...i thought people could use the internet to voice opinions..

You thought correctly but, if you have not gathered from your thread's reception, you might as well voice your opinion to the nearest wall. It's just as constructive that way.

[The Feeding]

I can't tell people how to respond. I was simply stating the things that i thought other people felt the same way about, guess i was wrong.

[Ghoul Hustler]

butthurt kiddies itt

[rasputin]

I can't tell people how to respond. I was simply stating the things that i thought other people felt the same way about, guess i was wrong.
Don't worry about it mate, and don't take it personally either. No-one really cares for JFAC much around here.

[dinosaurxbrocore]

but people actually do!
just my opinion. I LOVE the EP...Genesis was garbage, redundant death metal.

**** like that happens when half the original line-up quits

[Pebster49]

just my opinion. I LOVE the EP...Genesis was garbage, redundant death metal.

heaven forbid, you would like death metal without breakdowns:p

[Dimmu Burger]

I like both JFAC albums. They are doing better than ever. There is no descent.

[2muchket!]

Both JFAC's recordings have their strengths.

Their EP is just a lot better.

[beans]

i will agree with dimmu
im even liking thier new album a bit more nowadays
there is no descent they're doing fine by my eyes

[encmetalhead]

Someone complaing about a overnight sensation when almost every new band is making ti big doing the same thing?

Threat Signal had a record deal before they even played their first ever show because of myspace

[AFragileHope]

I like JFaC. If anything, I feel their album is a little underrated. Although by no means is it anything spectacular.

[benfan]

I dont really know alot about 'Death Metal' or 'Deathcore' or whatever it is.

I mean the only bands like that I listen to are BDM, JFAC, Capharnaum and Necrophargist.

But in my opinion BDM > JFAC. It annoyed me how when they toured the uk JFAC were playing over BDM. But thats life.

[Shattered_Future]

TBQH, I don't think JFAC really had an ascent at any point. They were always bad in my book.

[dinosaurxbrocore]

yeah definitely no nightwish
Someone complaing about a overnight sensation when almost every new band is making ti big doing the same thing?

Threat Signal had a record deal before they even played their first ever show because of myspace

jfac also toured extensively out of state before they were even signed and put on a really good live show from the beginning

but why am i even try to educate you? youre ****ing retarded