sup R&M you tryna be statistical n shi

[Ando!]

okay here's the premise: I gotta do a stats project

Many people claim to have their studying to be supplemented by the aid of listening to music. Does it? Do certain types of music lend themselves toward effective studying more than others? If so, what classifies a certain type of song as “good” for studying? Genre? Tempo? Mood? The fact that a listener likes or dislikes the particular song? The fact that a listener recognizes a particular song or not?

In order to test this, I plan to design an experiment in which I will give a brief “study guide” to participants, and then a test on the materials several minutes later. (I will use an old astronomy test from my night class to model my study guide and test.) I will break the participants randomly into several categories: One for listening to nothing, one for listening to a track of white noise (so as to answer “Does the mere presence of noise affect studying?”), and one for each song included in my pool. This music pool will include songs I feel is representative of several distinct genres, tempos, and moods. After taking the test, I will ask participants to rate the song they listened to (For example, “Thoroughly enjoyed, enjoyed, did not enjoy, or thoroughly did not enjoy” or some similar concoction), grade their tests and examine results. I will also survey the participants for recognition of the song (“Have heard before, Have not heard before, Unsure”).


and so if you can help me concoct such a list I would appreciate it cuz I basically don't know anything about rock or metal

[Stevie II]

participants would likely be distracted by music they've never heard like extreme metal, but what are the genres you want to cover?

its all quite varied on artist to artist basis - if im listening to iron maiden with intrusive vocals it can destract me from reading something every time i hear the vocals, but if im listening to not so intrusive saxon or something it's easier to concentrate yet they both fall in the same genre.

[Ando!]

as few as possible

like: rock, metal, rap, ambient, jazz, classical, blues, indian, maybe some kind of other world music

less if possible

[Stevie II]

perhaps go for enter sandman by metallica for metal. idk about rock

[Ando!]

see honestly i would peg metallica as alt. rock

I was gonna try to get like something a bit "trooer" as far as metal goes

again, I don't really know the waters here

[Stevie II]

what more extreme or more traditional heavy metal

[Ando!]

extreme

traditional is too borderline classic-rock, and I'm trying to avoid borderline as much as possible

[Stevie II]

how extreme? thrash or death metal? if it's the former i'd choose slayer's reign in blood or kreator's riot of violence.....if it's the latter i'd use deicide's dead by dawn or morbid angel's rapture.

[Ando!]

well idk really but I guess I'll go slayer since they're a bit more mainstream

[Eliminator]

rap: nas - ny state of mind

ambient: brian eno - 1/2


jazz is almost too vague tbh i mean like what would you want for that hard bop free jazz latin swing idk

[Ando!]

rap: nas - ny state of mind

ambient: brian eno - 1/2


jazz is almost too vague tbh i mean like what would you want for that hard bop free jazz latin swing idk

I'm actually using a segment of an Eno/Fripp collab for ambient music I think

Jazz really is way too broad, so I'm just going to ignore the more specialized branches like free, fusion, etc

I think Imma go with Miles Davis - So what or maybe Dave Brubek - Take Five

[Eliminator]

yeah those are good choices

[Ando!]

hey elim can you rapidshare me that nas song

[static]

http://rapidshare.com/files/115865333/02_N.Y._State_Of_Mind.mp3.html

[DanD]

math metal

[Ando!]

ok I need 1 contemporary/new/alternative rock song, what should it be?

white stripes? REM? Linkin Park? idk sorry if I look like an idiot here

preferably something sad

[Funeral Meat]

A few years ago, my friend told me that he was studying with Korn playing and he couldn't concentrate, then he heard some Gordian Knot and was concentrating much better. They aren't very heavy, but they do some rather technical music. I think if I was doing this experiment, I'd probably try to cover a range of musical complexity instead of intensity.

if you want to cover this aspect, go for the song Code:Anticode

[ATM]

How about some Don Caballero?

[Volumnius Flush]

for pop i would highly recommend cheyenne kimball ~ full circle or four walls.

80's rock I would pick 18 and life by Skid Row

80's R&B dance-vocal I would recommend The Whispers ~ Rock Steady

don't forget virtuoso rock guitar such as yngwie

for 2000's American metal I would recommend Killswitch Engage ~ In the Unblind

[AllBoutTheBenjamins]

loose lips by kimya dawson would be an interesting song to add. (its an indie kinda thing)

As far as extreme metal: you can't get much louder and "extreme" than bands like The Number 12 Looks Like You. Maybe try the song "clarissa explains cuntainment" or "don't get blood on my prada shoes".

LP is a little borderline for your alt rock song, what about somthing like breaking benjamin or bullets and octane?

and you gotta throw in some kanye for the rap

[Dimmu Burger]

As far as extreme metal: you can't get much louder and "extreme" than bands like The Number 12 Looks Like You. Maybe try the song "clarissa explains squirrelainment" or "don't get blood on my prada shoes".


Uhhhhh...you have to be kidding.

[Riva]

While I agree with your scientific premise, I am worried about the rigour of your experimental procedure. I would like to see you control a couple of variables that would effect the confidence of your results. Firstly, I'd like to see each participant study with each style of music sequentially; this would eliminate personal preference. I would also like to see the introduction of several other subjects to test the individuals with, since I think those who are not as strong at astronomy would naturally show weaker results, irrespective of what music (or lack thereof) that they were listening to at the time.

[ATM]

Did it just get really nerdy in here? ;)

[Apocalyptic Raids]

hey chris did you get a load of that NERD?!

[ATM]

It's our duty, as jocks, to make sure the nerds are in their place.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

uh mrs. simpson, we all have nosebleeds

[ATM]

hahah

College Professor: Welcome to Nuclear Physics 101. I see a lot of new faces, but you know the old saying, out with the old and in with the nucleus. (everyone but Homer laughs) So, we will get started with... (drops notecards) whoops!

Homer: (laughs loudly) Did you see that jerk?! Dropped his notes!! (laughs even louder)

[Apocalyptic Raids]

That pig had some.. powerful friends. :(

classic episode.

[ATM]

Homer: But Marge, we're college guys and we're up to no good!
Benjamin: Mr. Simpson, Gary spilled his ear medicine.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

"Now who's the dean?"

I could do this forever @_@

[ATM]

The episodes Conan produced are the best.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

My favourite is probably either the spinal tap one, the baseball team or when homer gets accused of sexual harrassment.

[Ando!]

While I agree with your scientific premise, I am worried about the rigour of your experimental procedure. I would like to see you control a couple of variables that would effect the confidence of your results. Firstly, I'd like to see each participant study with each style of music sequentially; this would eliminate personal preference.
see: lack of ample time and resources

I would also like to see the introduction of several other subjects to test the individuals with, since I think those who are not as strong at astronomy would naturally show weaker results, irrespective of what music (or lack thereof) that they were listening to at the time.

I'll be analyzing with T tests, so as long of the distribution of test scores is nearly normal for every category, that doesn't matter. Of course some people are going to do better in astronomy than others (it's not actually applied astronomy, though, it'll just be a conceptual fact sheet.) But as long as the scores are approximately normal, that won't matter.

[AllBoutTheBenjamins]

see: lack of ample time and resources



I'll be analyzing with T tests, so as long of the distribution of test scores is nearly normal for every category, that doesn't matter. Of course some people are going to do better in astronomy than others (it's not actually applied astronomy, though, it'll just be a conceptual fact sheet.) But as long as the scores are approximately normal, that won't matter.


To solve the problem of some people being inatly better at astronomy, test them before and after studying, and measure the change, not the overall score.

[Ando!]

the test has nothing to do with being good at astronomy thoug

it tests how well you remember stuff

[AllBoutTheBenjamins]

right, but some people will simply have more knowledge on astronomy. To combat this, you would measure their change in score after studying in contrast to the pre-study results, as opposed to measuring the flat out score.

[static]

How about some Don Caballero?

yes please

[Ando!]

right, but some people will simply have more knowledge on astronomy. To combat this, you would measure their change in score after studying in contrast to the pre-study results, as opposed to measuring the flat out score.

trust me I can make the questions really obscure