ITT I make my 2nd (and this time successful) attempt at reviving debate

[BassRevelation1029]

First topic: Citizens should have the right to own guns

Need 2 contestants, a pro and a con. Briefly State your position (for/against) in this thread and we'll choose two debaters. From there, we'll set the terms for the debate (time, date, etc).

Do not use this thread to argue this is merely a thread for choosing contestants

any takers?

[Volumnius Flush]

Con. I'll take.

[Jude]

I don't think this topic is even worth debating, and I'm too lazy to actually be in it.

However, since the obvious needs to be stated by someone, it's a retarded ****ing waste to be trying to crack down, not to mention put tons of black people in jail, for a harmless ****ing recreational drug. Not only are we pissing away money, we're also ****ing up black society by keeping their men in jail all the time.

[Volumnius Flush]

Actually, I think I'll take pro. Sounds easier to argue.

[BridgeToSolace]

Shouldn't the first thread be for deciding the topic?

Lets debate so that we can debate, kk?

[The Stig]

I'd be up to debate, but shouldn't it be a more hot button issue for mxers? I understand that most PNWI people would be in favor of weed being legalized...

[BassRevelation1029]

Shouldn't the first thread be for deciding the topic?

Lets debate so that we can debate, kk?
If you got a better topic then by all means bring it up. We'll see if anyone wants to do something else.
I'd be up to debate, but shouldn't it be a more hot button issue for mxers? I understand that most PNWI people would be in favor of weed being legalized...

i'm going to start with a wedge issue to spark interest and get this process rollin.

[The Stig]

I know that arms control is something that could be brought up. Or the government's role in education.

[BridgeToSolace]

Education is a hell of a lot more interesting and nuanced than drug control.

I'd be in on that.

[BassRevelation1029]

I know that arms control is something that could be brought up. Or the government's role in education.
set a resolution and we'll go from there

[Hababi]

I'd be up to debate, but shouldn't it be a more hot button issue for mxers? I understand that most PNWI people would be in favor of weed being legalized...

Yeah I mean even I, the most socially conservative person around here, favors some version of decriminalization.

[BassRevelation1029]

I changed the topic. Any interest?

[Volumnius Flush]

Yeah I mean even I, the most socially conservative person around here, favors some version of decriminalization.

Don't forget Griftadan and me. I am far more conservative then you Non.

[BridgeToSolace]

I already argued that like three times this month >_>

[Volumnius Flush]

I already argued that like three times this month >_>


What did you argue? I know you weren't talking about my post were you...

[BridgeToSolace]

What did you argue? I know you weren't talking about my post were you...

No, I argued with Siva against his position (for guns).

My overall position? That there's no conclusive or convincing data either way, so I reserve judgment.

No, I'm not talking about you. And I don't even know what you're referencing.

[Volumnius Flush]

No, I argued with Siva against his position (for guns).

My overall position? That there's no conclusive or convincing data either way, so I reserve judgment.

No, I'm not talking about you. And I don't even know what you're referencing.

Oh well I am highly in favor of the American people having guns. I think everyone should have them!

[Smokey D]

Nobody cares. This thread isn't for arguing it's for working out who's going to be in the debate.

[BassRevelation1029]

I already argued that like three times this month >_>

shutup and set a resolution if u don't like the topic at hand!
Nobody cares. This thread isn't for arguing it's for working out who's going to be in the debate.

Thank God there's a mod around.

[Volumnius Flush]

So I will argue on behalf of gun owner's rights.

[The Stig]

I think there are better pro-gun voices in the forum.

[Der Übermensch]

I will take Pro as long as VF can't be...

[guitrguy]

I'd do pro.

[The Stig]

Wait...the PNWI people arguing over who will be the pro-gun people? Never thought I'd see the day...

[guitrguy]

Well, if I argue the other side I can become more intimate with and argue against it better.

[muthafunkabass]

I really think Steve should do pro. :p

[The Stig]

I'd also be willing to do pro.

[Volumnius Flush]

I will take Pro as long as VF can't be...

You have done many debates before. I remember when we were arguing this same argument a few years back and it always winds up with you in the debate. It's not fair. I have a lot to say and I have a lot of information on the topic.

I think there are better pro-gun voices in the forum.

I think there are better posters than you to be repping everyday but opinions are like buttholes.

[guitrguy]

You have done many debates before. I remember when we were arguing this same argument a few years back and it always winds up with you in the debate. It's not fair. I have a lot to say and I have a lot of information on the topic.

Given your last thread I am inclined to disagree.

[Volumnius Flush]

Given your last thread I am inclined to disagree.

I am good with gun issues. I know a lot of statistics and a lot of research on the topic. I've spent a lot of time devoting myself to this issue and trust me when I say, "I am prepared. Well prepared."

[BassRevelation1029]

anyone willing to do con for the sake of arguing?

Ive got VF, guitrguy, sideshowbob, and Ubermench as pro. we'll narrow it down when we get an opposition.

[Der Übermensch]

You have done many debates before. I remember when we were arguing this same argument a few years back and it always winds up with you in the debate. It's not fair. I have a lot to say and I have a lot of information on the topic.

You also are hated by most everyone here, which, despite the logical fallacy of it, means your opinion ain't worth **** even if it is right.

Anyways,
Ive got VF, guitrguy, sideshowbob, and Ubermench as pro. we'll narrow it down when we get an opposition.
To narrow it down, I present my... credentials? for why I should be given the pro-side of the debate.
I have previously compiled information on the matter of gun control and can present a well supported and reasoned argument for the limiting on control thereof. I don't really know what guitr and sideshow have on it, and they may be good, but I will say you can't let VF have this. As I pointed out above, his mere being the pro will cause con to win.

[guitrguy]

I intended to do some research, so if you want to go ahead and do this soon, you can pass me over.

[Der Übermensch]

guitr, since no one seems to want to do con, would you wanna take it?
Then we can start this up sooner.

[guitrguy]

Sounds good to me.

[Der Übermensch]

Yay! Ok. Now I just need to buy off bob. How long to plan do we have Bass?

[sweboy]

I think Reaganista should be appointed official debate moderator and given the task to point out any logical fallacies, irrelevancies etc. and after 3 fallacies or "wat the **** has that got to do with it"'s, you're out.

[Volumnius Flush]

So I will have my argument prepared from May 18, 2008 at 7 PM CST. Is that okay with everyone?

And I must say thank you to BassRevelation for giving me this opportunity to debate the issue of gun control.

[Der Übermensch]

Haha. He didn't.
"Ive got VF, guitrguy, sideshowbob, and Ubermench as pro. we'll narrow it down when we get an opposition."
And he ain't gonna choose you I think either. It's me or bob, since guitr said he'd do con.

[Volumnius Flush]

Haha. He didn't.
"Ive got VF, guitrguy, sideshowbob, and Ubermench as pro. we'll narrow it down when we get an opposition."
And he ain't gonna choose you I think either. It's me or bob, since guitr said he'd do con.

Trust me. I am still in the running.

Don't count me out so easily.

[Der Übermensch]

O, I already have.
You lack the respect of this forum.
Seriously, if he gives you pro, I want con. I am very very very pro-gun, but I know I could still rip you a new one either side I take.

[Volumnius Flush]

O, I already have.
You lack the respect of this forum.
Seriously, if he gives you pro, I want con. I am very very very pro-gun, but I know I could still rip you a new one either side I take.

I will take pro. And I will rip you to shreds.

[Der Übermensch]

No. You aren't taking pro. Bass is deciding who gets it, and pardon my ego, but I think I have a much better chance then you :)

[Volumnius Flush]

No. You aren't taking pro. Bass is deciding who gets it, and pardon my ego, but I think I have a much better chance then you :)

Unless he wants to give me a fair shot, which I think I deserve. To prove myself, you know?

[Der Übermensch]

I'd prefer you don't try and prove yourself by butchering the argument for the side that should win.

Edit: O good! Problem solved.

[BassRevelation1029]

I was gonna choose VF, but...no seriously I was

Ok For Pro: Der Ubermensch and Con: guitrguy

I'll state the official rules in the thread. When can you guys start (no later than monday preferable)?

[Der Übermensch]

I can start now.

[BassRevelation1029]

there you go. You think you'll need more than 4 total posts?

[guitrguy]

I'm probably going out tonight, but tomorrow or Sunday are great for me.

[ashman]

I'm looking forward to this, the old debate thread was awesome, I really enjoyed reading them.

p.s make a sciencey one, I wanna get involved in this :thumb:

[BassRevelation1029]

p.s make a sciencey one, I wanna get involved in this :thumb:
so your opponent can get brutally torn?

I don't think so :p

[ashman]

so your opponent can get brutally torn?

I don't think so :p

My ego needs this :upset:

I'm sure Rockandroll or Spitfirejunkie could probably give me an interesting debate :p

[BassRevelation1029]

thats true. I rarely see the three of you pop up these days

[ashman]

It's the lack of science type threads for me, I read this forum every day, just don't post in fear of making myself looking like a retard in some thread about something I don't know.

I think the other two are being dirty students and studying. :thumb:

[Hababi]

This fella here is going to appreciate the debate topic: http://www.bauckmanfinearts.com/photos/Bear.jpg

[BassRevelation1029]

bumped for new debate topics

[BridgeToSolace]

Education: Progressivism or Tougher Standards.

[BassRevelation1029]

I wonder who's gonna take the former.

[guitrguy]

What about letting the winner of the previous debate choosing the next topic?

[BassRevelation1029]

scratch that. People may see that as an obstacle for everyone to get involved.

[guitrguy]

oh ok. I'll think about some topics tonight, and post some tomorrow.