v0

[Danger Bird]

So if I can let my ignorance show for a moment, this is something I've never fully understood:
As I understand it, encoding mp3s in v0 gives the best file size to quality ratio. But does something being in v0 actually have any bearing on it's bitrate, or is that something that is totally separate? Like if I have a song that's encoded in v0, and it's ~137 kb/s, could I have the same song at a different bitrate and it would still be considered v0?

[Dimmu Burger]

This is interesting. I've never heard of v0. What do you use for that?

[Danger Bird]

It's a preset for the LAME mp3 encoder. Almost everything on OiNK used to be v0 or lossless

[Double You Awful]

afaik, if it's a proper v0 rip (done with EAC or the like) the avg bitrate should be the same no matter how it's ripped

[Let's Chop Cats!]

V0 is a VBR setting which averages around 245kbps. The result is quality approaching the MP3 useable limit of 320kbps but with much smaller file sizes. V0 can only be one variable bit rate, so no matter how many times you rip something in it, it should be exactly the same.

[Danger Bird]

Okay that answers my question. Because I usually like to see my mp3s around 256, but sometimes when I rip a CD in v0 it comes out averaging more like 192.

[Aaron]

What are you using to rip it? Some programs have a default of ***kbps and you need to specify if you want higher or lower.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Yeah, in EAC you have to do that.

[Knifeboy]

V0 can range from 32kbps (silence) to 320 kbps (full on blasting white noise, I guess), it uses variable bitrate, so it will remove bits whenever it can do so while still preserving the sound quality.

If it gives you a low average bitrate, that just means it did the job well

[Danger Bird]

What are you using to rip it? Some programs have a default of ***kbps and you need to specify if you want higher or lower.

That's where I get lost. If v0 always comes out the same, what does it matter what bitrate you have selected?

[Kithkin]

What are you using to rip it? Some programs have a default of ***kbps and you need to specify if you want higher or lower.

Yeah, but if you set the LAME encoder to encode at v0 or v2, it overrides the default.

Yeah, in EAC you have to do that.

Not if you're using v0.

[niobium]

So if I can let my ignorance show for a moment, this is something I've never fully understood:
As I understand it, encoding mp3s in v0 gives the best file size to quality ratio. But does something being in v0 actually have any bearing on it's bitrate, or is that something that is totally separate? Like if I have a song that's encoded in v0, and it's ~137 kb/s, could I have the same song at a different bitrate and it would still be considered v0?if you're a noob like me,use dbpoweramp cd ripper

if you're a member of what, just search for what toolbox and it will be freeleech, just snag it and it comes with a lot of stuff. db poweramp cd ripper, and the converter which i use to convert flac to v0

v0 is my preference

[Danger Bird]

EAC is many times greater than dbpoweramp.

[Meatplow]

^ I second this.

http://www2.firehose.us:81/~jiggafellz/eac/index.html

Possibly the best n00b proof tutorial ever written on the net for anything, to be honest.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I was wondering where that guide had got to. My link hadn't been working.

[niobium]

couldn't figure it out tbh

but this was on my mom's retarded computer. i have a laptop now so maybe i should give it another try

v0 is v0 is v0 right

[Meatplow]

unless its a transcode. flac to V0 shouldn't be any destructive then ripping it from a CD I imagine but I suspect others would think otherwise.

as for the guide its step by step, and keeps everything extremely detailed without boggling the reader with useless information or vague, ambiguous instructions which leave things out. If you work your way through it I don't see where you could go wrong :confused:

[niobium]

the problem had to do with the actual hardware. the extraction of one album took 5 hours. i tried to extract one track and it came out as a wav. i'm not sure what the directions said, but that's not right. my mom had a really weird burner she got off ebay, i don't know the brand or anything. if i were to try it again, i imagine i'd get it down. i've used the guide two times already so it's nothing really new to me.

unfortunately dbpoweramp hasn't failed yet and is remarkably easier. it doesn't seem destructive, the moderators at what recommended it regarding the recent three day flac freeleech.

[Danger Bird]

Okay and also on a semi-related subject, how would I convert a file on my computer to v0? I've converted to mp3 a ton, but none of these programs have a command line or anything