Prog

[willfellmarsy]

Let's face it Progressive Music is the only music that really matters. From The Mars Volta to Opeth, Pink Floyd to Tool, Between the Buried and Me to Dream Theater, and Devin Townsend to Edge of Sanity, Progressive Music is a fresh spin on the things we love.

Anybody else diggin some prog? Speak up and discuss all the free-spirited ones who do not just plod through the ways of old.

So what Prog are you digging? All forms and genres are invited. :wave: Come on in and let's have an ambient break followed by a jazzy solo and backward vocals...

[Eliminator]

my favorite progresive band is probably porcupine tree

[Khaan]

lately i have been digging grumstrule prtetty obscure band from micronesia but pretty ****ing awesome and progressive i think. they are brutal deth metll but with accordian solos and also whistles and occasional melodic vocals pretty ****ing unique and proggresive and you should chekc them out if you havnt heard them before

[Clunge]

Yes, King Crimson, Jethro Tull, Pink Floyd, Amon Duul II, Van Der Graaf Generator, Hawkwind, etc.

Old or new, it's all good.

[willfellmarsy]

Elim-Porcupine Tree is prett good but I've only really listened to Fear of a Blank Planet from them...i've heard enough songs off their other stuff to kinda surmize their general sound/style. I can't really get into the vocals that much. They are just a little too uninspired, but i'll probably check out another album and see how it goes. Musically they are fantastic.

Khaan they sound fantastic...i'll have to check out some Grumstrule.

Clunge-What are those last 3 like? They sound interesting.

[Daven]

yeah, prog keeps me alive

[132WalrusesInMexico]

Mmmm prog... Definitely my favorite genre. I've always loved bands like Rush, King Crimson, and Yes. Lately I've been getting into bands like Opeth and Porcupine Tree. Dream Theater not so much... They just don't do it for me for some reason.

[willfellmarsy]

Dream Theater is more of a band with good songs rather than good albums...except for Metropolis Part 2 which is actually a dern good album.

[Correction]

when i had a heart attack on friday they didnt shock me they played me some PROG

[Dimmu Burger]

I certainly love me some Opeth, BTBAM and 3, which is cool cause they are touring together.

[willfellmarsy]

I love how Dream Theater is headlining and the only artist i don't care that much for (Metropolis Pt 2 is fantastic but the rest of their discography of what i heard is meh). I'm more interested even in Opeth (who i don't like that much except for Watershed) just because i feel like they'd put on a fine show. I feel like Petrucci is going to solo for an hour and DT will be done. For me it's BTBAM>3>O>DT based on who i'm most excited to see.

[Dimmu Burger]

Its perfect for me cause I can leave after the first 3 bands and i don't have to sit around all night listening to Dream Theater. I can show up early and leave early and beat the traffic without missing anything worthwhile.

[willfellmarsy]

I'm going to stick around to see them. How bad could it be? I've heard good things about them live so maybe it will win me over.

[ATM]

Wanna give me an extra ticket, Dimmu? :-o

[Dimmu Burger]

Wanna give me an extra ticket, Dimmu? :-o

I'll see how many free ones my brother can get. I'll let you know.

[PIGS(1 different one)]

king crimson and camel own a lot

but zappa is the king of pwn

seriously

[static]

this thread is lol

[PIGS(1 different one)]

yeee

[Kage]

Laddio Bolocko

[willfellmarsy]

NeWBReeD
Sleep Parade
Braintoy
All little known Prog that needs the attention of the masses

[Kage]

No, they really blow.

[willfellmarsy]

na...i think you really blow but we can both agree on the Prog fantasticness that is Devin Townsend's Ocean Machine right?

[Kage]

Ocean Machine is tight, yeah, but Townsend isn't that good.

[willfellmarsy]

It hurts my heart to see that. Synchestra, Infinity, and Accelerated Evolution are all excellent as well as SYL.

[Kage]

SYL is a joke.

[willfellmarsy]

It's like you are slowly digging the razor blade into my heart...to each his own i guess but SYL is amazing and certainly better then a joke...except of course for their joke songs but even those are no joke besides from the fact that they are a joke.

[Daven]

I must agree with Kage.

[willfellmarsy]

Usually I say to nay-sayers of SYL listen to City 3 times and if you don't like it you never will...but more on the topic of Prog...

Is The Human Equation by Ayreon hard to get into. It was playing in the background of a party i was at and it seemed like good stuff tho i wasn't in a good enough state to really grasp it...

[Deth]

I can't see how it would be hard to get into compared with actual prog and stuff.

I love the album.

[willfellmarsy]

I don't know the multiple vocalist think kinda worries me...Devin has a fantastic ending to one song though so im definitely going to check it out soon.

[cometuesday]

isn't there already a prog thread?

[willfellmarsy]

I didn't see any other so i started this...I searched and nutin popped up.

[cometuesday]

weird, i know there was one. whatever.

prog is good/okay

[FatalEnergy]

Sweet!

Sean Malone rejoined Cynic.

[Angmar]

:eek: Awesome!

[AA-12]

I want to hear a frogressive band.

[Kage]

I only listen to regressive music.

[Mekkalayakay]

Is The Human Equation by Ayreon hard to get into. It was playing in the background of a party i was at


really?

[Pebster49]

My favorite Prog bands would be BTBAM, Opeth, Tool...I know pretty typical in Sputnik, but I love them all. Going to progressive nation on Saturday woo!

[Cocaine]

really?

dungeons and dragons

[Chu]

Check out Riverside, awesome, awesome band.

[repcak]

Symphony X
Opeth

... most of the time and beside of that other bands, which i don't listen to much.

[lak89]

Prog is my favorite genre at the moment, and definitely will be for years to come, I'm digging quite a lot at the moment, including Dream Theater of course, Symphony X, Evergrey, Threshold, Pagan's Mind, Redemption, Riverside, Fates Warning, Rush

too many

[willfellmarsy]

dungeons and dragons

Yea, you just can't play D & D without some Ayreon in the backround...at least that's what my friend thought. Afterwards we played some Magic:The Gathering and my friend stole a beer from his grandma's fridge and all thirteen of us split it...We were pretty trashed so we decided to watch some animal photographs (each of us under a blanket) and had the don't look at anyone else rule. :naughty: Greatest night ever!

Can't stop listening to In Mourning's Shrouded Divine at the moment. Muy excellante Progressive Death Metal.

[Jimothy the 33rd]

I like a bit of prog, old or new.
King Crimson, the Tull, DT, opeth, BTBAM.
Petrucci won't solo for an hour live.

[Chrysostom]

Ahhh Prog. The genre of kings. Kings Crimson indeed. Actually I really can't get into the prog from the so-called heyday. 70s prog does nothing for me. It's modern prog or nothing for me.

Educate me gentlemen - what are some good modern prog bands in any of the Mars Volta, Spock's Beard, Dream Theater (and its various side projects) and Porcupine Tree veins.

[willfellmarsy]

Neither can I except for maybe Pink Floyd...I never really listened to an album of theirs but they have some good songs. Modern Prog is where it is at.
Jimothy-45 minutes then?

[Riva]

Neither can I except for maybe Pink Floyd...I never really listened to an album of theirs but they have some good songs. Modern Prog is where it is at.
Jimothy-45 minutes then?

What Pink Floyd have you heard?

[McP3000]

The Mars Volta, Transatlantic, Between the Buried and Me, Opeth, Dream Theater, Liquid Tension Experiment, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, King Crimson, Yes, Emerson Lake & Palmer, Pink Floyd, Porcupine Tree, Rush, Yes, Symphony X

Sigur Ros, Explosions in the Sky, and God is an Astronaut if you want to count post rock

[Kage]

lol

[132WalrusesInMexico]

Check out Riverside, awesome, awesome band.
I second this. Riverside is amazing.

[Collis]

Spock's Beard

V is a good album. Not heard anything else by them though.

[132WalrusesInMexico]

V is good. If you like V, check out Beware of Darkness. I think BoD is much better TBH.

[McP3000]

lol
>:[

whatchu laughin at punk?

[willfellmarsy]

What Pink Floyd have you heard?

A couple of tracks here or there...Hey You, Bicycle Reace, anything that's gets on the radio from them...

What's a good starting album for them?

[Txus]

Italian prog is the only good one....and Porcupine.

[Collis]

A couple of tracks here or there...Hey You, Bicycle Reace, anything that's gets on the radio from them...

What's a good starting album for them?

Dark Side or Wish You Were Here. Then go to the lesser known stuff, and there is a LOT.

[jrowa001]

Camel is my fav prog band from the 70s. Moonmadness is such a classic album

[Txus]

Rajaz is my favorite.

[Riva]

A couple of tracks here or there...Hey You, Bicycle Reace, anything that's gets on the radio from them...

What's a good starting album for them?

If you like Hey You, then The Wall is a good starting point. Bicycle Race is a Queen song, though.

[1338 h4x0r]

If you like Hey You, then The Wall is a good starting point. Bicycle Race is a Queen song, though.

He might be thinking of Bike

I've got a bike, you can ride it if you like, it's got a basket and a bell that rings and things to make it look good! I'd give it to you if I could, but I borrowed it!

I KNOW A ROOM OF MUSICAL TUNES SOME RHYME SOME CHING MOST OF THEM ARE CLOCKWORK

Let's go into the other room and make them work!

[This is why taking acid is dumb.]

[Riva]

He might be thinking of Bike

I've got a bike, you can ride it if you like, it's got a basket and a bell that rings and things to make it look good! I'd give it to you if I could, but I borrowed it!

I KNOW A ROOM OF MUSICAL TUNES SOME RHYME SOME CHING MOST OF THEM ARE CLOCKWORK

Let's go into the other room and make them work!

[This is why taking acid is dumb.]

Oh really? Was he really thinking of Bike? I mean, I'm only a massive Pink Floyd fan who has all their albums and DVDs, and a large number of bootlegs. Thanks for letting me know that one of Syd Barrett's most popular songs could have been the one that this bloke heard on the radio and consequently spelt wrong.

[jrowa001]

Rajaz is my favorite.

Rajaz and Mirage are a close second for me. Rain Dances and Nude are up there too

[Deth]

Moonmadness would be the correct answer of course.

[jrowa001]

yeah Moonmadness is most definitely my favorite. i can never get enough of that album.

anybody fans of Paatos? i actually got into them by seeing them on Akerfeldt's myspace page

[omgwtfboogie]

Amon Duul II

[jrowa001]

very good. Yeti is a great album

[Kage]

They've been mentioned, but yeah they're really good. Deutschkrautrock.

[1338 h4x0r]

Oh really? Was he really thinking of Bike? I mean, I'm only a massive Pink Floyd fan who has all their albums and DVDs, and a large number of bootlegs. Thanks for letting me know that one of Syd Barrett's most popular songs could have been the one that this bloke heard on the radio and consequently spelt wrong.

I want to tell you a story
About a little man
If I can
A Gnome named Grimble Crumble
And little Gnomes stay in their homes

They've been mentioned, but yeah they're really good. Deutschkrautrock.

Kraftwerk > *

[Mr. Ron]

We are the robots

[Riva]

Hey Jean this is Henry McLean and I've finished my beautiful flying machine and I'm ringing to say that I'm leaving and maybe you'd like to fly with me and hide with me baby

[Seafroggys]

Anybody heard of Gracious?

I stumbled upon them in Pandora. I really like the song that they played. Apparently they had one or two albums in 1970-71, so they were never really that big or anything (my dad has never even heard of them).

[Riva]

Galadriel is another pretty good prog rock band that are relatively unknown.

[Txus]

Banco del Mutuo Soccorso >>> Most prog bands.

[Cocaine]

dude the mars volta dude

dude

and TOOL. It's like, math. You like split two songs into one, carry the Y and mute the left channel and they match!! 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, 233!!!!

[1338 h4x0r]

We are the robots

JA TVOI SLUGA
JA TVOI ROBOTNIK

and TOOL. It's like, math. You like split two songs into one, carry the Y and mute the left channel and they match!! 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, 233!!!!

You just reminded me that I have finals coming up, oh sweet Jesus on a cracker.

[Chu]

I second this. Riverside is amazing.
Out of Myself is a good album if anyone's interested.

[Mekkalayakay]

Maybe I haven't been here in a long time, but I am lost. Has there been a surge of new music fans at this site, or has everyone been listening to the same music for like 5 years? :[

[Chu]

I'm guilty of the latter.

[Clunge]

very good. Yeti is a great album
I prefer Tanz Der Lemminge.

The riff in Little Tornadoes is astounding.

[Evoke]

Wishbone Ash anyone?

[Mekkalayakay]

I'm guilty of the latter.

There's nothing wrong with it. I just couldn't do it.

[Clunge]

Wishbone Ash anyone?
Argus is a top album.

[Chu]

There's nothing wrong with it. I just couldn't do it.
Well, I've found new music too, but I still listen to [and enjoy] all the old bands.

[132WalrusesInMexico]

Orphaned Land... Progressive metal with middle eastern influences. The dudes are from Israel. Steven Wilson is producing their new album that is supposed to be out this year. Check out Mabool, it's one of my all time favorite albums.

[Clunge]

I tried and tried and tried to get into Mabool but there was something that really did not click with me. I think it was the overall slight corniness of the whole project. Epically awesome, but not without cheese which got the better of me.

[Ventriloquist]

I don't quite like Orphaned Land but I have to admit Mabool is a good album. I'm seeing them live this summer in a festival, might be interesting...

[132WalrusesInMexico]

Where do you live? I know they are playing a few festivals this summer, but I don't remember which ones.

[Ventriloquist]

It's a festival in Turkey.

[repcak]

Wishbone Ash anyone?

i listened to them several years ago.
"Time Was" is an amazing album.

[132WalrusesInMexico]

I tried and tried and tried to get into Mabool but there was something that really did not click with me. I think it was the overall slight corniness of the whole project. Epically awesome, but not without cheese which got the better of me.
Heh yeah. I think there is a pretty high level of "cheese" in most prog. I've come to live with it.

[willfellmarsy]

I couldn't get into Mabool either and yes i meant Bike...i always frget which one is called bike and which one bicycle race...neither of them seems like it deserves that name so i can never remember...I'll probably get The Wall soon.

I'm really looking for some Progressive Death Metal...someone recomend me some...please no Edge of Sanity, disillusion, or even Opeth even though they really aren't or any others i have rated already. I really want some good prog death maybe with a good vocalist...nice growls/shrieks/screams and cleans...thanks.

[GurS]

Emerson Lake & Palmer ftw.... pretentious, maybe, but Tarkus is an amazing ****ing album, likewise Pictures at an Exhibition & Brain Salad Surgery.


Also, Muse - prog or not? They definately have prog-ish elements

[willfellmarsy]

Pretension is a necessity in Prog. Many may see it as a negative but a band must have a certain amount of confidence in their own ability to truly be great. Saying a band is pretentious usually interests me in a band because at least it makes me think they think they are good. If they suck i'll kno right away but if they are good they are usually amazing.

I like Muse a lot though they probably aren't Prog. If anything, they are getting less progressive with each album...galloping towards the mainstream.

[Cocaine]

I like Muse a lot though they probably aren't Prog. If anything, they are getting less progressive with each album...galloping towards the mainstream.
What? You're acting like there's some ridiculous criteria you have to meet to be 'prog'. They are a progressive rock band.

I don't see how there can be such a thing as as "prog-ish elements". That's a direct contradiction to me.

For progressive (or forward thinking) death metal, check out Augury, Gorod, Akercocke, !T.O.O.H.!, Into Eternity's last two albums, Symbyosis, Hieronymus Bosch yadayada

[willfellmarsy]

Into Eternity is awesome but i will check out the rest of your suggestions...i do think, however, that there is a certain element that makes somehting Prog. There's really no way to explain it so i have no real ground to stand on, but prog needs something more than Muse does. They are just an alternative rock band (one that i enjoy greatly) but just that.

"Prog-ish" elements may be a contradiction but honestly, there is an element that makes all Prog bands Prog...i'll try to think of a name for it just for you mr. coke...but Muse isn't Prog.

[kattunlover69]

speaking of orphaned land...anybody heard any new **** from them yet?

[Cocaine]

Into Eternity is awesome but i will check out the rest of your suggestions...i do think, however, that there is a certain element that makes somehting Prog. There's really no way to explain it so i have no real ground to stand on, but prog needs something more than Muse does. They are just an alternative rock band (one that i enjoy greatly) but just that.

"Prog-ish" elements may be a contradiction but honestly, there is an element that makes all Prog bands Prog...i'll try to think of a name for it just for you mr. coke...but Muse isn't Prog.

The only element a band needs to be 'prog' is the element of progression. Sorry, but I don't believe in some bullshit 'prog' genre where every band is a shitty Fates Warning or Queensryche knockoff. We're talking semantics at this point but you can't be serious when you tell me there's some criteria a band has to meet to be fit into a made up bullshit genre.

'Till you come up with an actual reason why Muse isn't "prog", you should probably drop it. I think they're pushing themselves and "alt rock" with their evolving sound, creative use of keys, the way the integrate sweeps and arpeggios into what is ultimately a pop-standard foundation and Bellamy's vocals are uniquely executed.

speaking of orphaned land...anybody heard any new **** from them yet?

Nope. It's still in the works. Mabool took something like 7 years to come out so I'd just sit back and be patient at this point. Probably late 2008 or early 2009 I'd see it coming out.

[willfellmarsy]

Defintitely semantics my man so i won't push it, but with Muse, i just can't say they are progressing. I don't know how closely you follow them but their first album, at least to me, was much more progressive and they seem to be moving to more mainstream sensibilities and moving away from any sort of Progression ever since.

Even their newest album has some but to me they are moving in the wrong direction and i was a fanboy of them before i even got into the music i like now so i'm trying to be glass-half-full but with what i've heard about new albums i don't think they are moving in the right direction. Bellamy's keys and vocals are fantastic tho so i don't want to complain about something i still think is good...their albums have just been getting worse and worse imo.

Any of those bands you suggested have good cleans? It's not that important but i like some good cleans where i can find em.

[Bordello]

you can't be serious when you tell me there's some criteria a band has to meet to be fit into a made up bullpoop genre lol

[jrowa001]

Emerson Lake & Palmer ftw.... pretentious, maybe, but Tarkus is an amazing ****ing album, likewise Pictures at an Exhibition & Brain Salad Surgery.


yes Jeff loves ELP. Tarkus and Brain Salad Surgery are awesome.

[jarhead12343]

anyone like genesis?? or just peter Gabriel?

[jrowa001]

genesis are pretty cool. ive only heard Selling England By the Pound, Foxtrot and, Nursery Cryme. i tried getting into Gabriel's solo stuff but found it kind of boring

[Dragon_Prince]

genesis are pretty cool. ive only heard Selling England By the Pound, Foxtrot and, Nursery Cryme. i tried getting into Gabriel's solo stuff but found it kind of boring

Peter Gabriel's solo material is so diverse. I cannot think of a band or artist more diverse than he, so you might just got an album that doesn't fit to you.

I like Pink Floyd, Peter Gabriel, Genesis, Yes, Porcupine Tree, etc.

I really dislike Tool and Opeth, and I do not find them really proggy, they are more metally with prog influences.

[Panopticon]

Isis is where its at.

[Ventriloquist]

Isis is where its at.

They're a great band but don't think they are prog.

[Panopticon]

fair point. slightly more prog than the average band at least.

[Kage]

I would say Isis is progressive.

[Mother]

Forgive my ignorance but, what makes a band progressive? Like people say Opeth, DT,Tool Porcupine tree etc are all progressive.. But I don't find something common between them except maybe the length.

[Panopticon]

i believe it was guitrguy that explained it well in the community thread.

The term progressive in regards to music is more a modifier than a genre. You can have progressive rock, progressive metal, etc...

[Mother]

K thene when/why would one use such a modifier

[Panopticon]

im terrible at explaining things like this but what i see it as, is:

musical ideas progress and develop a lot more than a standard rock/metal song.
it also includes influences from many different genres of music besides what the genre actually is.

[Deth]

Not following traditional song structures and branching out as far as the progression of the song is usually one of the big things.

[oracrest]

I have been listening to quite a lot of Mars Volta since seeing them a few weeks back. A lot of people don't like what they do live, but I find it really interesting. Their live scabdates album especially, has some good re-imaginings/alterations to some of their songs. And their new drummer is SICK!

[lak89]

has anyone checked out Dominici's third album "O3 A Trilogy part three"?

[horseypie]

I have been listening to quite a lot of Mars Volta since seeing them a few weeks back. A lot of people don't like what they do live, but I find it really interesting. Their live scabdates album especially, has some good re-imaginings/alterations to some of their songs. And their new drummer is SICK!

im sorry but scabdates is horrible

and i havent seen them live but album wise jon theodore is much better than the new guy

[cometuesday]

scab dates isn't horrible, and their live show is much better (though that's open to argument).

my biggest problem with it though is the needless over-extension of cicatriz.

[Cocaine]

When I saw them the extended Cassandra Gemini. Yeah, it made an already awful performance even worse. That song was long enough at 30 minutes, at nearly an hour...yikes

[Kage]

When I saw them the extended Cassandra Gemini. Yeah, it made an already awful performance even worse. That song was long enough at 30 minutes, at nearly an hour...yikes

If I had a seat, I could go for that.

[repcak]

has anyone checked out Dominici's third album "O3 A Trilogy part three"?

yes it is good.

[jrowa001]

its Dominici's best imo. his first album was funny though

[repcak]

I just listened to the last one... idk the other two.

[jrowa001]

his second one is like the 3rd, but the 1st is like a really cheesy acoustic album with corny lyrics

[repcak]

tbqh i am not really interested into Dominici; I've got the 3rd part, cause i had to write a review about it... its good, but its not that kind of music, i would listen to at normal days... though i gave it a 4/5

[jrowa001]

yeah its good solid prog metal, but it doesnt stand out really

[lak89]

i liked both parts 2 and 3, although they do sound like a carbon copy of Dream Theater at times