View Full Version : Does song order matter?
Interviewer/surveyer
04-29-2008, 02:54 PM
I've always wondered that. Does the order songs are in on a cd impact how good the c.d. is? Personally, I think it shouldn't, but it still does for me. I always think that the first 4 tracks are the songs the artist likes most, along with the last track, so I tend to observe those songs more. I don't want to, but I know sub-consciously I do it.
For example, (an album most of us know and enjoy) would Blackwater Park be any worse with this song order?
1. Dirge for November
2. Blackwater Park
3. Patterns in the Ivy
4. Harvest
5. A Funeral Portrait
6. The Leper Affinity
7. Drapery Falls
8. Bleak
Eliminator
04-29-2008, 02:57 PM
the flow could be worse maybe not the album or music itself
Russell
04-29-2008, 03:00 PM
im certainly not going to rearrange to my albums to test that.
Dude, the song order is everything.
Eliminator
04-29-2008, 03:06 PM
someone please write an random album ordering program at once
repcak
04-29-2008, 03:15 PM
When i did a CD it took me several hours, cause i paid attention that each song flows perfect into another :)
//expert
masscows
04-29-2008, 03:21 PM
song order is important
alytee123
04-29-2008, 03:23 PM
Re-arrange the tracks on Catch33. It pretty much still flows together every different arrangement.
repcak
04-29-2008, 03:25 PM
very!
Stevie II
04-29-2008, 03:26 PM
song order is important for most good music
Meatplow
04-29-2008, 03:26 PM
it matters very much, I had a crappy ipod for several months that refuses to put albums in a coherent order and it annoyed me to no end
repcak
04-29-2008, 03:28 PM
try to listen to "Mop" from the end to the beginning -> this would be the best example
Stevie II
04-29-2008, 03:28 PM
try listening to an album played randomly and it will not have the same flow to it..
i also rarely listen to one song on its own. I nearly always listen to a full album or nothing
its different for different albums. some albums have a very defined flow to them while others have songs that are either too similar or too different for it to matter.
Brad Norris Fan 777
04-29-2008, 04:37 PM
yeah song order matters
G_Mac07
04-29-2008, 06:09 PM
try listening to an album played randomly and it will not have the same flow to it..
i also rarely listen to one song on its own. I nearly always listen to a full album or nothing
This.
Ghoul Hustler
04-29-2008, 06:34 PM
Not to me, but I rarely ever listen to whole albums.
Brad Norris Fan 777
04-29-2008, 06:35 PM
fag
Ghoul Hustler
04-29-2008, 06:36 PM
fuk you you dont no me go fuk ur own mom
naboo
04-29-2008, 06:48 PM
Definitely important. For some albums it's like taking a movie and rearranging the scenes.
is the sky blue?
sometimes
the sky itself doesnt really have a color though
FatalEnergy
04-29-2008, 07:00 PM
It definitely matters for concept albums. Operation Mindcrime, Abigail, Nightfall in Middle Earth, etc.
DBlitz
04-29-2008, 07:20 PM
Depends on the album, but I think it usually does - if an album starts of well I have enough reason to listen to listen to the next song.
McP3000
04-29-2008, 08:47 PM
It definitely matters for concept albums. Operation Mindcrime, Abigail, Nightfall in Middle Earth, etc.
well duh
but im pretty sure the issue is about non-concept albums with no story or interlocking themes
FatalEnergy
04-29-2008, 08:56 PM
Well, besides concept albums I still think it's important.
The band/artist/whatever put the songs in the order they did for a reason.
McP3000
04-29-2008, 08:58 PM
i totally agree
OK Computer wouldn't be nearly as good if the flow was bad
(still great, but not ****ing amazing like it is now)
willfellmarsy
04-29-2008, 08:58 PM
Completely matters. The way each song on an album flows is crucial to how that album effects the listener. Though i agree with whoever said this is true of good music. A slow/fast song at the wrong time can completely ruin an album and make those songs bad even if on their own they are good.
Perfect example is City by Strapping Young Lad. If Room 429 was anywhere else in the album it would just mess up the entire heaviness of the album. It being second to last, and right after the listener has been bludgeoned with speed and heaviness throughout is a perfect break right before one more burst of aggression.
It's way important although more so for some albums than others. If it's intended to be listened to that way, then more will be lost by listening to it randomly.
In one case I had some album on my mp3 player and the tracks didn't have numbers, so the songs were just in alphabetical order. I didn't realize it until most of the way through the album (which I wasn't familiar with), but the whole time I was like, man, this album has horrible flow.
1338 h4x0r
04-29-2008, 11:39 PM
someone please write an random album ordering program at once
allfather:$ ls *.mp3 | perl -we 'print sort { rand() <=> rand() } <>;'
06.\ Gebrechlichkeit\ II.mp3
01.\ Dunkelheit.mp3
05.\ Rundgang\ Um\ Die\ Transzendentale\ Saeule\ Der\ Singularitat.mp3
04.\ Gebrechlichkeit\ I.mp3
02.\ Jesus'\ Tod.mp3
03.\ Erblicket\ Die\ Tochter\ Des\ Firmaments.mp3
allfather:$
SIQQ
Angmar
04-29-2008, 11:42 PM
Putting Filosofem in that order is madness.
1338 h4x0r
04-29-2008, 11:45 PM
nuh uh
Angmar
04-29-2008, 11:46 PM
But the album is suppose to have a black metal beginning with an ambient climax, putting the ambient stuff at the start and middle just ruins it! :mad:
1338 h4x0r
04-29-2008, 11:48 PM
nuh uh
Angmar
04-29-2008, 11:56 PM
**** You! :angry:
1338 h4x0r
04-30-2008, 12:03 AM
nuh uh
Interviewer/surveyer
04-30-2008, 10:41 AM
I think the general consensus is that it does matter, but it varies depending on what cd it. Certain albums have a higher emphasis on the importance of song order.
marcus_in_absentia
04-30-2008, 09:05 PM
Yea it matters, especially for concept albums.
Eliminator
04-30-2008, 09:14 PM
order doesnt matter a whole lot with most grind albums tbh
PIGS(1 different one)
04-30-2008, 09:19 PM
man songz dont even matter juzt play whatever tha **** u wont lozl
FreeSmells
05-01-2008, 11:53 AM
Depends on the album, but I think it usually does - if an album starts of well I have enough reason to listen to listen to the next song.
Yep yep.
Tbh though some albums sound better on shuffle.
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