New song called: beautiful creation experimenting with deeper vocals

[einzweiveirfunf]

Hey, got a new song up. This one i feel is very different to past recordings, with the addition of accoustic guitars in the verse and deeper vocals

http://www.myspace.com/calumjmusic

all feedback welcome, and if you wish for me to check out some of your stuff, just leave me a link

[Floor_13]

Beautiful Creation: I love the mood of the guitar in the intro, very good acoustic tone too. I feel like the vocals may have been a bit too stacatto, the guitars make it feel like they should have been flowing a bit more. They are also a bit quiet in the mix, but they sound good. I wasn't expecting the jump to the next part with the drums, but I liked the vocals during this part more, it sounded. Good drum sound, I may have asked you before but is that you playing? I liked the tone used on the guitar solo at the end, it adds to the soulful feel of the playing. Soft outro, I like it.

Flawed: Another great guitar intro, this time matched up with a great bass line. The intro vocals remind me a bit of Korn. The dissonance used in the chords is very forboding, its awesome. I liked the bass lines all throughout this song, at some parts the vocals got very quiet, and then back up again. At least I think they did. Wow distorted guitar comes in super loud, but I guess not too loud. Again, very good tone of the lead guitar. Ooh, the transition of distorted to clean with the lead still playing is beautiful.

Get Inside: Catchy drum beat matched up the guitars and keyboard are all a nice touch. I liked the next louder guitar and beat too, but the quieter parts are better imo. The melodies used by the keyboard is awesome, I love the string-y sound used too. This is one of my favorites I'd have to say.

The Great Decline: I really enjoyed the piano in this song, also the vocals seemed better in this song. I liked em a lot. Very cool melody in the guitar during the intro and the same riff later on. What kind of pedals do you have for the different effects you use on the guitars?

7 Years: Percussive intro is cool, different than all the others, but its a great beat. Drums and bass come in, this is cool. Guitar too, and percussion fades out, I'm liking this one so far. No vocals in this one so far? Change of pace here, a little more groovy with the some serious lead playing. Some of the parts I couldn't tell if you were messing up or purposely doing it like that. Ah here are the vocals. I was actually quite enjoying this song as an instrumental, it worked well. Perhaps with more of the leads. But now I'm used to the vox, so its all good. Life is a definitely a knife stuck in your soul. This one is a long one, I feel like it didn't need to be that long.

These are some really interesting songs, way different to lots of stuff I've heard. I'm digging most of it!

[einzweiveirfunf]

Hey, thanks a lot for listening it means a lot to me. The guitar effects are all built into the studio, and unfortunately i can't play drums so they aqre either done with a drum machine or on keyboard :( Thanks again for the feed back.

[karmapavementplan]

Ah bollocks. I just wrote out a massive analysis of the lot and lost it all by pressing the back button. So I'll keep it short this time

I think Get Inside is a really good polished piece, eqs are perfect and it really flows well and I love the bass. I'm not so sure about the heavy drum bit, the er "get inside" bit.

Beautiful creation and flawed have the potential to be great, but the EQs really let you down alot, but the solo in flawed is beautiful. Also, the transitions feel a little too forced in beautiful creation especially, not sure how intended that might be though.

The great decline so far is one of my favourites, it really heavily reminds me of the pixies, love the guitar bridges and the basswork is excellant. I think the great decline sounds like your sound, as opposed to beautiful creation, flawed and get inside which sound more like you experimenting, you seem to feel much more comfortable with this track. I might be wrong.

7 years. The intro before the lyrics began I really enjoyed and the guitar and drum work was great, and you really seemed to be stretching yourself creatively, but then I felt you changed the tone too dramatically to some more korn sounding stuff. I think you could make it an instrumental and it would stand up on its own really well, and the second have of the song would stand really well on its own, too, but not sure about keeping them as one.

I hope I've not been too harsh or anything. I always find the truth to be most useful when helping give people direction. Did that sound patronising? I meant to be... I'll stop typing now.

[einzweiveirfunf]

naah, don't worry i didn't see it as patronising or harsh, just fair and honest :)
Yeh, great decline, not sure it's one of my favourites, but it seems to be some of my freinds favourites, so maybe it is more my style, and glad you compared it to the pixies:)

7 years is quite old, and so yeh, i've gone of the vocals a lot, so i can understand why you felt it would be better as an instrumental

Thanks again for the feedback

[Aguywithaguitar]

Beautiful Creation: haha this random rock part right after some trippy stuff completely caught me off guard, and then back again, thats cool. only thing i would say would be to work on your vocals, you sound like your singing really quietly, you should be belting that **** out man! and then double track those vox, itd make the songs sound a lot better.

All The Other Songs: same thing. i like your music direction but you gotta step it up on the vox man.

[einzweiveirfunf]

Hey, thanks for listening. Yeah, vocals have been to quiete (and they actually used to be too loud) Next song, gonna turn them up, quite a bit. As for the two tracks, err... well i kinda record all my stuff onto two tracks if that's what you mean, though i could be mis-interperating ya :)

Again, thanks for listening, and your feedback has been most usefull. Glad you like the change from quiete to heavy

[Aguywithaguitar]

By two tracks I meant you gotta record the same part twice. Double tracking is like one of the biggest secrets in the recording game. Your suppose to double track all guitars and double tracking vocals gives it like a lot fuller sound. Like most pop songs definatly have double track on the chorus, if not the whole song.

But when double tracking,your singing and guitar playing has to be incredibly tight or else itll sound not good at all.

[einzweiveirfunf]

Ahh okay, i see. Yeh, gotta be very tight lol. I'll give it a try some time:)

[humbuckermagic]

Guitar work - sloppy, unpolished. Same for the vocals. Not much imspired me.
Sorry.

[einzweiveirfunf]

Guitar Work!!! Sloppy!!! :( yeah fair enough. I know my vocals aint great, but i'm not a bad guitar player :(

[Ripping Hammer]

Very unique sound... You have a very underground lo-fi outsider music vibe (think Jandek) which definitely appeals to me. If you're going for something that will have broad, popular appeal, sorry but you'll probably never get there. But for left-field, oddball stuff, this can definitely find an audience. Your voice isn't great, but its not bad either. In fact it has tons of character, and I like your lower register. I'd mix it higher and own that ****. Finally your arrangements are abit bloated, cut them down and retain the listeners attention.

[einzweiveirfunf]

Hey, i'm glad you like my sound. Yeh, it aint supposed to be conventional lol and the volume of the vocals will be coming up by the next song, thats a promise :). Again, thanks for listening.

[ROCKetship]

this made me smile

[einzweiveirfunf]

Hey, thanks for listening. That is a smile because you liked it right...

[charlesfishowitz]

warning:starting with cons....then moving on to pros, so to speak.

so a lot of these songs have some great potential, it's just the vocals really take a lot away from the music. im not saying that you're a bad singer, im saying that they were mixed in with the music poorly...i had to turn up my speaker at some points and then later had to turn them down because of how loud the instruments were....

also, in songs like 7 years, i loved the intro(NIN anyone?), but the switch into a sort of ninties alternate grunge kind of urk'd me...i really think if you kept with the intro and maybe added in some darker sounding guitars it would be really great.

with the cons out of the way i'll move onto the suff i enjoyed...so i'll start off by asking, when you were recording beautiful creation, were you listening to a lot of king crimson or something? it sounds very proggy at times..also, the weird eastern indian guitars(that's what i hear anyway) at the beginning were a very nice touch.

...and i noticed with a lot of these songs, that they all seem like a two for one...like, each song starts out with something, and then leads into something completely different...sometimes kind of eh for me, but other times you make it work really well.

anyways, the great decline was definitely my favorite(downloaded it btw)... it has a lo-fi relaxation feel to it.. and i love the use of piano. it was done very, very tastefully. :)
only problem is those vocals...get them mixed higher.

but yeah, other than those few nuances, your music has a sort of relaxing warm feeling to it..very comforting.


anyways, i hope i didnt come off like too much of a jerk ***, and i hope some of this helps.



peace

[einzweiveirfunf]

Hey thanks for listening. Glad you downloaded one of my songs lol. Anyways, yeh vocals need to be mixed higher, and most of the things you pointed out seem to be very fair. 7 years is like 4 months old so quite dated, and i was listening to a lot of NIN, so cheers :)

I haven't heard a lot of king crimson, though i know a fair few people who are into them, so i think i'll check them out. As for the east Indian guitars, they were Alice in chains inspired:), though i did try to go for that psychedelic feel so yeh, thanks :)

Anyways, thanks again for listening, it means a lot

[ROCKetship]

i like the transition at about 1:35..cool stuff.

[einzweiveirfunf]

Ahh cool, thanks man

[indietrashrock]

don't like the deeper vox. sound so fake. the acoustic guitars on the other hand - I dig.

[einzweiveirfunf]

Yeh, you're probably right there. Glad you dig the accoustic guitar :)

[indietrashrock]

yeah it's pretty atmospheric