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mullets suk
03-21-2008, 09:43 PM
so i have some extra hats, china, and crash that i dont want to sell (cause i wont get more then 10$ for them) so im thinking about experimenting with drilling holes.

can i use a drill press? if so do i need a special bit? (im guessing they are all made of B8, they are zbt's and planet Z's

once these are answered, whats the difference if:

-the hole is small vs large?
-farther vs closer to the bell?
-on the bell
-placed closer together vs farther apart?

generally any thing that can effect the sound would be helpful. :chug:

Panopticon
03-21-2008, 09:53 PM
not sure about how that stuff effects the sound but when your doing it, make sure you start as small as possible, and then go bigger in increments or else the cymbal will crack.

trysthedrummer
03-22-2008, 05:18 AM
If your going to use a hand drill/pillar drill you will need HSS drill bit. If you use any other standard crap it won't cut as good and you will just blunt it.

I cut my paiste crash up recently, but left the top bell part. It was jigsawed out and then grinded to the right shape.

If you start drilling holes here and there you are going to get a much more trashy sound. I would have no idea the specifics if you drill at certain places..

mullets suk
03-22-2008, 05:43 AM
tanks alot guys. i dont know what drill ill be using. my girlfriends dad has a number of tools in his basement, i thought i saw that he had one of these:

http://img.alibaba.com/photo/10688859/Drill_Press_Zj4116.jpg

if not i might be able to convince my school tech teacher to let me do it there.

fishbulb
03-22-2008, 11:29 AM
You could always put rivets in one of them to see how it sounds.

-TGP-
03-22-2008, 11:33 AM
If it doesn't sound good now, what would putting a hole in it do?

bobby__johnny
03-22-2008, 11:33 AM
rivets rock.

rivet that china up dude. maybe even put a jingle or 2 on it. those always sound so cool

Little Android Man
03-22-2008, 11:36 AM
Well if you really want to experiment i'm not stopping you.. but instead of doing that and coming out with crappier sounding cymbals than you started with, email Jaime at saluda cymbals and find out what you can get from that. He doesn't care about the line of cymbal, it is the metal he is after so he'd give you a good deal even if they are zxts and planet zs.

Chippy569
03-22-2008, 12:11 PM
putting holes in your cymbal will make it sound dry. You're removing a good chunk of the tension, which is what makes it sound the way it does.

adding a rivet also dries out the stick sound while adding that pretty sizzzzzzle. though you can get a similar effect by hanging ball chain over your cymbal.

mullets suk
03-22-2008, 12:26 PM
im not a fan of sizzles.

how much does jamie charge for something like this?