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fenderson0005
02-27-2008, 02:33 PM
I was wondering what is the best way to run audio from a laptop into a mixer?
EADGC
02-27-2008, 03:16 PM
I've been wondering this as well.
Of course it's possible to use the 1/8" output, but I'm sure there's a better way.. USB/Firewire interface, maybe?
fenderson0005
02-27-2008, 03:35 PM
Thats what I want thinking but I've never tried it before, and I dont have any software/hardware for it.
Motleyguy
02-27-2008, 04:40 PM
Most mixers have a "tape" input, as it's usually called. It's a stereo set of RCA jacks (Red & White) use a RCA Y cable out of your sound card into that input.
EADGC
02-27-2008, 05:30 PM
What about using the headphone out with a speaker cable or something?
Motleyguy
02-27-2008, 07:22 PM
That's basically what you're doing. The speaker/headphone output on the laptop/i pod/whatever. Use a 1/8" RCA Cable. It's a Y Cable. You don't use an actual speaker cable. (Unshielded, connects speaker to crossovers/amps etc.)
EADGC
02-27-2008, 08:28 PM
But why use an RCA over a 1/4" speaker cable? Or does it matter
Moseph
02-28-2008, 07:00 AM
Generally speaking, you want the solution that provides the least amount of possible noise.
Balanced cables (TRS, XLR) are a better choice than unbalanced (TS, RCA).
The output of a dedicated audio interface (such as a USB or Firewire device, or a pro-level PCI or PCIe device) will undoubtedly be better than the speaker output of a computer's native soundcard. They also will be more useful as a "live input" since the latency between what's happening on the computer and what you hear will be minimized by comparison.
Lastly, minimizing the amount of adapters you need to use is desirable, but will have a less dramatic effect on everything, unless you're using really bad adapters.
Motleyguy
02-29-2008, 03:10 AM
But why use an RCA over a 1/4" speaker cable? Or does it matter
Laptops/I Pods don't have 1/4" outputs. That's just the cheapest and easiest way to do it.
EADGC
02-29-2008, 03:39 AM
Laptops/I Pods don't have 1/4" outputs. That's just the cheapest and easiest way to do it.'
A 1/8"-1/4" adapter is conveniently easy to find and incredibly cheap, however.
Motleyguy
02-29-2008, 05:32 AM
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A 1/8"-1/4" adapter is conveniently easy to find and incredibly cheap, however.
Yeah, however, if you're going to be using an adapter to make it 1/4", then you won't notice a difference, as it's still going through the 1/8" cord, so it's just as easy to just use the 1/8" to RCA Y cable.
Aaron
02-29-2008, 07:07 PM
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EADGC
02-29-2008, 07:11 PM
Yeah, however, if you're going to be using an adapter to make it 1/4", then you won't notice a difference, as it's still going through the 1/8" cord, so it's just as easy to just use the 1/8" to RCA Y cable.
No
I meant if you were to plug the adapter into the laptop, and use a 1/4" speaker/instrument cable
The Chemist
02-29-2008, 07:27 PM
No
I meant if you were to plug the adapter into the laptop, and use a 1/4" speaker/instrument cable
There will be interference added. RCA is your best option.
EADGC
03-01-2008, 11:18 AM
There will be interference added. RCA is your best option.
Where would the interference be coming from?
What about RCA compared to USB/Firewire interface w/ speaker/instrument cable?
Motleyguy
03-01-2008, 03:39 PM
Every different connection, or piece of gear you add to your signal flow is going to add noise (interference). Therefore, RCA is your best bet, as it is the most direct. When you're talking about USB/Firewire, do you mean out of the interface into the mixer?
EADGC
03-01-2008, 03:45 PM
Yes.
Moseph
03-02-2008, 06:25 PM
Every different connection, or piece of gear you add to your signal flow is going to add noise (interference). Therefore, RCA is your best bet, as it is the most direct. When you're talking about USB/Firewire, do you mean out of the interface into the mixer?
Unless your cables or adapters are flawed in some way, a few adapters won't harm anything. I'd say all this worry is for naught.
However, do ensure that you're matching connectors and adapters. Using an unbalanced/mono adapter with a balanced/stereo cable will definitely create some headaches, and that isn't the easiest error to spot in a debug process.
The one thing that I should probably stress is that noise is more of a problem with unbalanced (RCA, instrument/TS) than with balanced (XLR, TRS) cables. Particularly in noisy (near a computer monitor, fluorescent lighting, etc) environments over a moderate to long distance of cable.
However, if you keep the distances short, the environment relatively clean of E/M radiation, and the cables consistent with the adapters, I'd say you should be fine for whatever transmission method you choose.
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