Casual: Parabola

[Understanding In a Crash]

That is a respectable avenue to take, but you have to remember an act as big as Thrice needs money to keep the project rolling. I don't think you guys understand how important making money is to a successful live and studio act. With a project as musically complex as Thrice, the money NEEDS to be coming from somewhere.
I am done with you now :wave: <3

[OkSeriouslyI'mNotSade]

I would play what I want and trust the world to listen to it. I wouldn't change my sound for anyone. I love money but I love music more. The way it should be.

I realize your position and I completely agree in the abstract. Realistically, though? You need a steady cash flow to maintain your musical project.

I've done Raayl live a few times, and it was stupidly expensive. My music is complex when it leaves the studio, because alot of my sound is stylized recording techniques.

Most bands experience similar difficulties. Maintain a road crew, touring with no steady job, you NEED to rely on your fan base to supply you with the cash to entertain. There is no way around it.

[Understanding In a Crash]

there are more options than that, though. like playing your music the way you want and people enjoying it. just a thought. it does happen with some bands.

It happens with alot of bands. The words popularity and greed are getting mixed up with each other.

Jody = Greedy

Thrice = Popular/A Complex musical masterpiece

[OkSeriouslyI'mNotSade]

I am done with you now :wave: <3

I didn't mean it how you're interpreting it, I meant complex as in the entirety of their show and live and studio act. Think about all that goes into preparing a show for a band like Thrice. Think about all the people that need to be paid.

The road crew
The bus driver
The lighting expert
The sound engineer
The venue itself
The producer
The manager
The investors
The studio


The list is endless.

[HELLonWHEELS]

Have you ever been in a local band before playing at bars and what not? That just isn't true. If that was true then I wouldn't of quit my band to go to college and be working in retail right now...

i thought we were talking about established bands like radiohead that sell out festivals.

[Jody LeCompte]

there are more options than that, though. like playing your music the way you want and people enjoying it. just a thought. it does happen with some bands.

It was a hypothetical question of character, your using the same argument to completely dance about the question.

[irishslappop]

and your missing the important ones like whores, drugs, and donkey shows.

[Understanding In a Crash]

I realize your position and I completely agree in the abstract. Realistically, though? You need a steady cash flow to maintain your musical project.

I've done Raayl live a few times, and it was stupidly expensive. My music is complex when it leaves the studio, because alot of my sound is stylized recording techniques.

Most bands experience similar difficulties. Maintain a road crew, touring with no steady job, you NEED to rely on your fan base to supply you with the cash to entertain. There is no way around it.
This is why baby I'm a slave in retail. No one may ever listen to me but I'll still never eat my words and quite frankly I couldn't care.

[OkSeriouslyI'mNotSade]

i thought we were talking about established bands like radiohead that sell out festivals.

Yeah, its very important to keep in mind the disconnect between professional musicians and local musicians. The type of acts I'm talking about are the big names that have been mentioned-the acts that require a massive amount of fiscal and monetary support.

[Jody LeCompte]

I like how I'm greedy because I'd thump on a Britney Spears album if it meant not having to punch a time clock and get to play music instead of a 9-5.

[OkSeriouslyI'mNotSade]

This is why baby I'm a slave in retail. No one may ever listen to me but I'll still never eat my words and quite frankly I couldn't care.

I don't know, I used to share that perception but I'm changing now. In the past 2 months I've had over 10,000 plays and I've moved to a city in which I've had relentless offers to do projects and shows and activities with artists that I never dreamed I'd be able to work with.

Being popular and having your music be "respected" is one of the best feelings you can ever experience, and trust me-that feeling is one you WANT to sustain regardless of how your music changes. If you work hard and experience it, you'll understand.

[Understanding In a Crash]

I enjoyed the debate guys <3

But you know whats coming.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGPppIs8wMQ&feature=related
(thats for JODY specifically) :thumb:

[Jody LeCompte]

Rather than labeling music purely as expression, Sade, you can also look at as communcation.

"Selling out" to me is like reluctantly listening to what someone has to say, and then actually learning something and having much bigger ears from there on out. Do you turn your back to anyone you think may not talk exactly like what you feel like listening to? If not, then why would you turn a project or musical idea down because it doesn't sound like what's spinning in your cd player?

[OkSeriouslyI'mNotSade]

I enjoyed the debate guys <3

But you know whats coming.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGPppIs8wMQ&feature=related
(thats for JODY specifically) :thumb:
I actually like Thrice. I have been listening to them for quite a few years now. Havn't listened to much of their newer stuff, but Paper Tigers was one of my favorite songs.

[Win A Rabbit]

It was a hypothetical question of character, your using the same argument to completely dance about the question.
how can i dance about a question that wasn't addressed to me?

and i know it's hypothetical. i'm just saying that there are bands out there with creative control that are successful. it doesn't have to be sellout or homeless.

i think if you're doing something you truly want to do, and doing it well, people will like it, and you can continue doing what you do.

[OkSeriouslyI'mNotSade]

Rather than labeling music purely as expression, Sade, you can also look at as communcation.

"Selling out" to me is like reluctantly listening to what someone has to say, and then actually learning something and having much bigger ears from there on out. Do you turn your back to anyone you think may not talk exactly like what you feel like listening to? If not, then why would you turn a project or musical idea down because it doesn't sound like what's spinning in your cd player?

Well yeah, exactly.

I post my stuff on here because through all the flaming I get, through all the people that cut it up, there is always a majority that feels it relevant enough to suggest how I should alter it. People will always ask you to change things, nobody will ever tell you that you've made a perfect song.

In turn you must always keep an open line of communication with your fans, and deliver to them what they want. It shows you are both an open person who respects your fans, and in turn you will gain popularity and thus validate yourself ever the more.

[Jody LeCompte]

I understand that it's not sellout or homeless, but UiaC basically implied he'd play music for no one before he played something other than "his music" so I thought I'd probe to see how dedicated he was to said ideal.

[Understanding In a Crash]

The best example I can say is that homeless guy at the subway station playing whatever instrument and as long as he's playing it good people will still put money in his case. I've seen it happen. If you play what you care about well enough then people will find out on it's own terms and like it.

[HELLonWHEELS]

I realize your position and I completely agree in the abstract. Realistically, though? You need a steady cash flow to maintain your musical project.

I've done Raayl live a few times, and it was stupidly expensive. My music is complex when it leaves the studio, because alot of my sound is stylized recording techniques.

Most bands experience similar difficulties. Maintain a road crew, touring with no steady job, you NEED to rely on your fan base to supply you with the cash to entertain. There is no way around it.

Do you play live with a DJ?

[Jody LeCompte]

But here's where the bottleneck comes in, what if he isn't playing the instrument well? What if he's playing a style of music no one likes?

[Understanding In a Crash]

This is for JODY... I haven't heard and of his "constructive pessimism" yet. :thumb:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUWFbxc5LSE&feature=related

[Understanding In a Crash]

But here's where the bottleneck comes in, what if he isn't playing the instrument well? What if he's playing a style of music no one likes?
There is still a jazz forum here as much as there is an emo forum?

[OkSeriouslyI'mNotSade]

Do you play live with a DJ?

I've thought about it, but no. Back in the Blood of Rome days, I don't know if you're even familiar with that-I had some people interested in helping me pull it off live. It was more or less an experiment, but I was lacking musicians that were really "on track" with what I was doing.

It was about a year and a half ago, too.

I've been looking for people to help me perform this new stuff (siphon spine, crisis) in chicago. Been in contact with some industrial labels in chicago, we'll see if it plays out.

[Win A Rabbit]

I understand that it's not sellout or homeless, but UiaC basically implied he'd play music for no one before he played something other than "his music" so I thought I'd probe to see how dedicated he was to said ideal.
alright. i don't want to start fights or anything, just figured i'd throw my opinion in.


i'm thinking about buying a line 6 dm4. ed breckenridge uses one on the tubescreamer setting, and i need a good distortion pedal for my guitar. seems like a pretty wicked pedal.

[Jody LeCompte]

What does that have to do with a shitty guitar playing hobo?

And I don't understand your post about my constructive pessimism at all.

[Understanding In a Crash]

What does that have to do with a poopty guitar playing hobo?

A poopty guitar playing hobo gets no money? HAHA.. You said it yourself that every genre has to have fans. Theres a fan of music for everything so I highly doubt if you can play well and it could be Industrial folk screaming, someone can dig it.

[Jody LeCompte]

Bro, I really don't understand why your still on about it.

It was hypothetical. Which means it was based in a setting that was entirely MY chosing. What if, was the glue that held my question together.

[Understanding In a Crash]

It just wouldn't happen. There is no what if. This is exactly why I'd play what I want with whomever I do it with.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLne7FNL77c&feature=related

I'm still waiting for you to call out my poopty videos though :D

[Jody LeCompte]

I haven't liked any of them actually, but I figured if I said anything this argument would just flip and start 4 pages back.

[Understanding In a Crash]

Wait but you liked the cover of a kid doing Sean Kingston?

This is hopeless.

[Jody LeCompte]

That kid was playing what he wanted to play and hoping people would like him.

Now your just shooting down your own people.

[Understanding In a Crash]

We're just going to have to call off this conversion of Jody. :upset:

I've done everything in my power to try and change his views of music. Posed out some gimmicks and opinions I didn't even really mean just for the sake of trying to get him just to convert.

Medic..

[OkSeriouslyI'mNotSade]

I recommend you both go post in my new thread about my new song Crisis.

[irishslappop]

The foxy is kinda foxy,
mr. wolf he's the guy
who chase red through the woods and ate grandma
but a dog is a dog is a dog is a dog
unlike the wolf
who made a widower of grandpa

new wutang is ok....


george clinton, is still awesome.

[irishslappop]

I recommend you both go post in my new thread about my new song Crisis.

SOLD.

[Understanding In a Crash]

Well now that this conversion is dead and done. I will post my concrete music+business beliefs.

1) You need money to do anything
2) You should start off making music that YOU WANT
3) If you last this long then you could venture off with the loss of a fanbase...

[Understanding In a Crash]

Jody and Sade I will always love you even if we must agree to disagree. :upset:

<3 Goodnight

[irishslappop]

My philosophy on music is the same as on life. What ever i believe will work for me, and i dont need to explain it to anyone for any reason other than if i feel it nessesary. I often do, but i find myself being so dynamic, that stating a concrete set of beliefs would be false.

[EADGC]

Well now that this conversion is dead and done. I will post my concrete music+business beliefs.

1) You need money to do anything
2) You should start off making music that YOU WANT
3) If you last this long then you could venture off with the loss of a fanbase...

Start off doing what you want, then conform to what people want you to do to some extent, until you find the right balance

[:amaze:]

goooood evening.




:amaze:

[irishslappop]

oi.

[:amaze:]

hows it goin in here?




:amaze:

[irishslappop]

kinda gay, the usual.

Im gonna go eat, do one more set and watch tv.



nighty night

[OkSeriouslyI'mNotSade]

kinda gay, the usual.

Im gonna go eat, do one more set and watch tv.



nighty night

SET?

[:amaze:]

sade, you still in the collaboration comp?




:amaze:

[OkSeriouslyI'mNotSade]

sade, you still in the collaboration comp?




:amaze:

yes, and check my new tune crisis.

[HELLonWHEELS]

SET?

weight lifting?

[Rollo47]

Man, I'm so ****ing bored.

[lemoley]

hi guys

[Rollo47]

Hey man, what's happening?

[lemoley]

not alot really, just in a lecture about musical genres - were on psychedelia at the moment

you?

[Rollo47]

Psychedelia is cool.

Not much man, had a really boring day. Just watching some Mighty Boosh at the moment.

[lemoley]

ha ha cool, didnt think you guys would know about that, let alone watch it

[Rollo47]

It's kind of a cult classic here, not that many people know about it. Great show though, me and my mates all love it. Howard is the ugliest man in existence.

[BullDoG_37]

haha im drunk :P

[lemoley]

ha ha as if, im not personally a fan but thats cool you watch it

[Rollo47]

haha im drunk :P

Hah, don't make me jealous, I've had a total of about 5 beers in the last three weeks.

[lemoley]

your drunk and your on MX?

lol

[Rollo47]

Been there and done that :p

[lemoley]

ha ha, i feel bad now

when i get drunk i forget about you guys

[BullDoG_37]

lol i had about 7 blue woodstocks and a couple shots of home made ouzo lol

[Rollo47]

I'm a gloating drunk - I like to tell everyone just how much I've had to drink, and just how much of a pisstank I am.

[lemoley]

:lol:

[Rollo47]

lol i had about 7 blue woodstocks and a couple shots of home made ouzo lol

**** Woodstock man, if you want a high percentage bourbon drink Turkey, or at least Bulleit.

[BullDoG_37]

i grabbed my mates acoustic and i sounded hella bad lmao

[BullDoG_37]

**** Woodstock man, if you want a high percentage bourbon drink Turkey, or at least Bulleit.

well they were 9% and the same price as a 10 pack of jimmies...

[lemoley]

man i remember when one of my house mates here at uni was leaving, the night before he was off we stayed up all night and got wasted in his room and just sat in a circle playing on a acoustic lol

...good times

[Rollo47]

But they taste like arse.

[Rollo47]

Playing music is so much better when you're stoned than when you're drunk.

[lemoley]

but being drunk is so much better than being stoned :thumb:

[BullDoG_37]

i would get stonned.. but i get drug tested at work :(

[Rollo47]

but being drunk is so much better than being stoned :thumb:

True, but I do enjoy being stoned, too.

[Rollo47]

Well, I'm off anyway.

Night guys.

[lemoley]

see ya man :wave:

dude this is class, my teacher is playing a youtube vid of a guy playing a Chapman

[BullDoG_37]

im off too.. house mates making me vodka lmao

[lemoley]

see ya man

[Panopticon]

everybody left.

[Thonk]

stoned>drunk

[rh15951]

Both is best.

[Efrim]

talk about empty

[Pariah]

sup cas

[BenJammin]

http://z.about.com/d/phoenix/1/0/r/K/tumbleweeds01.jpg

[Akira]

I don't know who you are, but you have a Futurama avatar so I like you.

[Pariah]

I don't know who you are, but you have a Futurama avatar so I like you.

pit mod

and i have many futurama avatars

some of which i cannot find unfortunately

[Efrim]

http://z.about.com/d/phoenix/1/0/r/K/tumbleweeds01.jpg

Guess what I saw over the weekend.


Actually, don't bother.

It was The Assassination of Jesse James.
So great.
And a brilliant soundtrack.

[BenJammin]

Guess what I saw over the weekend.


Actually, don't bother.

It was The Assassination of Jesse James.
So great.
And a brilliant soundtrack.

Ooh. Excellent. Westerns are either amazing or horrible, imo.

[Efrim]

Ooh. Excellent. Westerns are either amazing or horrible, imo.

It wasn't even a real western, there was very little shooting and such.
Nick Cave performed admirably.

[BenJammin]

It wasn't even a real western, there was very little shooting and such.
Nick Cave performed admirably.

Whatever. It's got Nick Cave, so it's win.

I still need to get around to seeing The Proposition.

[Efrim]

Whatever. It's got Nick Cave, so it's win.

I still need to get around to seeing The Proposition.

Same. And Ghosts...Of The Civil Dead. I could watch that movie with my eyes closed because the music is so good.

[BenJammin]

Let's make a movie, Jesse.

No, not that kind of movie.

Or that kind.

[Jody LeCompte]

My band's guitarist does all this movie score stuff, I just don't have the patience or creativity for it.

[:amaze:]

you're in another band jody? since when?




:amaze:

[Jody LeCompte]

A little over a month now I think, a jam band.

I have a pretty good feeling about this band. They're the two most talented guys I've gotten to work with so far.

[Efrim]

Let's make a movie, Jesse.

No, not that kind of movie.

Or that kind.

way to stunt my creative spirit.

[:amaze:]

oh cool. good luck with that.



:amaze:

[Efrim]

A little over a month now I think, a jam band.

I have a pretty good feeling about this band. They're the two most talented guys I've gotten to work with so far.

do they have curly hair and beards?

[BenJammin]

way to stunt my creative spirit.

Sorry. :upset:

In other news, I have been toying with the idea of doing a short stop-motion movie with claymation, just for something to do.

[Efrim]

Sorry. :upset:

In other news, I have been toying with the idea of doing a short stop-motion movie with claymation, just for something to do.

Take up needlepoint instead.

[Jody LeCompte]

No, they don't :upset:


Cheers Luke, hopefully I'll have more luck with this one.

[Efrim]

No, they don't :upset:


Cheers Luke, hopefully I'll have more luck with this one.

Not likely, if they don't have beards and/or curly hair. Jam bands are doomed to fail if at least one member doesn't have this.

[Jody LeCompte]

I have kind of wavy hair and a goatee?

[Efrim]

I have kind of wavy hair and a goatee?

hmmm, the goatee might do as a stand in for now.

[BenJammin]

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/6527/fishchipsmi9.gif

Lawl.

[Panopticon]

i wanna get a bass pod for recording.

Should i get the Pod XT live or just the XT?

or neither? (and suggest what to get)

[Jody LeCompte]

Ten minutes in the Talkbass classified and I've got the worse GAS I think I've ever had.

[Akira]

i wanna get a bass pod for recording.

Should i get the Pod XT live or just the XT?

or neither? (and suggest what to get)

Do you really want the effects? Because I have never understood getting a POD just for recording.

[Panopticon]

i don't NEED them but i think they'd be nice to have. Maybe not all of them but some. ie. distortion, delay and others.

[HELLonWHEELS]

Ten minutes in the Talkbass classified and I've got the worse GAS I think I've ever had.

I just checked i didn't really see anything I really wanted. They had a couple bongos. A Super J and a 1977 Fender


awesome song

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JX2GVA0haVI

[pukeboy66]

Came across a GT7 for 700 today.

[HELLonWHEELS]

Came across a GT7 for 700 today.

why would you want a GT7?

[:amaze:]

came across your mom's face for free today.




:amaze:

[BenJammin]

why would you want a GT7?

Why wouldn't you?

[HELLonWHEELS]

Why wouldn't you?

I wouldn't play it at all.

[BenJammin]

I wouldn't play it at all.

That's cool. Last time I checked, you're not Doug.

[HELLonWHEELS]

That's cool. Last time I checked, you're not Doug.


??



I'm not doug?

[EADGC]

Just because you wouldn't play it doesn't mean someone else wouldn't


really


it's not that complex

[Akira]

Why wouldn't you?

Because of the ginormous neck.

[BenJammin]

Because I fail and have wrist problems.

O rly?

<3

[HELLonWHEELS]

Just because you wouldn't play it doesn't mean someone else wouldn't


really


it's not that complex
Thats why i asked him why he would want one. Are you people reading ok today. I see no purpose for one.

[Akira]

I like boys up the butt.

<3

We know.

[EADGC]

Thats why i asked him why he would want one. Are you people reading ok today. I see no purpose for one.

Because he might want a 7 string bass? Because he might want a Conklin? Because he might want a 7 string Conklin?

[BenJammin]

Thats why i asked him why he would want one. Are you people reading ok today. I see no purpose for one.

You're asking him why he would want one because you don't want one.

But clearly he brought it up because he would want one.

Therefore, I think it is you who might be experiencing reading problems.

[:amaze:]

You're asking him why he would want one because you don't want one.

But clearly he brought it up because he would want one.

Therefore, I think it is you who might be experiencing reading problems.

yeah, but he wants to know WHY he wants one. we all know that he does.... the question is WHY.




:amaze:

[EADGC]

Why does anyone want any bass? Because the specifications suit their preferences

[OkSeriouslyI'mNotSade]

Why does anyone want any bass? Because the specifications suit their preferences

I want a bass cause I don't know how to play guitar.

[HELLonWHEELS]

but why does he, or for that matter, anybody want a 7 string bass?!?!


I came up with a reason to pwn your 4-6 string bass players.....

[:amaze:]

Why does anyone want any bass? Because the specifications suit their preferences

yeah, and people usually have reasons as to why a certain bass suits their preference. that's what the question was regarding, if i read correctly.




:amaze:

[EADGC]

but why does he, or for that matter, anybody want a 7 string bass?!?!


I came up with a reason to pwn your 4-6 string bass players.....

I would want one for:

more notes, less position shifting, more harmonics, more possibilities for tunings, changes in positions, different timbres

among other things

[BenJammin]

I would want one for:

more notes, less position shifting, more harmonics, more possibilities for tunings, changes in positions, different timbres

among other things

This.

[EADGC]

If you don't understand why I want a 7 string bass, take 2 strings off your 4 string and try to play it.

That's how I feel.

[HELLonWHEELS]

well 7 string has negatives too

+ weight
Bigger neck, not all notes can be easily accessed.
harder to find parts if something goes wrong(i.e bridge or pick ups)

plus i wouldn't want to say I'm a seven string bass players, It just sounds and looks like your trying to be better than everybody else.

[Jaded]

If you don't understand why I want a 7 string bass, take 2 strings off your 4 string and try to play it.

That's how I feel.

....




The only negative thing about 7 strings imo is that there is no way to look cool playing one, especially if you are a weenie with a small frame like hell on wheels, and the weight and bulk of them really hinder your movement. It'd be sweet to track bebop solos with those suckers though, it's really easy to burn through stuff without needing to change position.

[EADGC]

plus i wouldn't want to say I'm a seven string bass players, It just sounds and looks like your trying to be better than everybody else.

Anyone who thinks that is quite possibly borderline retarded

so I really don't care what they think anyway

[Akira]

well 7 string has negatives too

+ weight
Bigger neck, not all notes can be easily accessed.
harder to find parts if something goes wrong(i.e bridge or pick ups)

plus i wouldn't want to say I'm a seven string bass players, It just sounds and looks like your trying to be better than everybody else.

Who really cares what people you think that think?

Plus, you forgot the main negative, which is, again, neck size.

[EADGC]

Who really cares what people you think that think?

Plus, you forgot the main negative, which is, again, neck size.

Neck size isn't really an issue for me. Thickness yes, but not height-wise. I don't think I'd have any trouble reaching the lower register of a 7 string.

[irishslappop]

phase one of Uber RBX170 complete. EMGs, wiring, custom aluminum jack.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/irishslappop/Image105.jpg

[Trevo]

To be honest, I just don't need a seven stringer. There's no use for me and it would probably be more expensive.

[EADGC]

I would like a 9 string

I think I'd probably stop there

[Jody LeCompte]

I want a seven string just to be "LAWL DRAGONFORCE GUITAR SOLO ON BASS" on youtube.

[Jody LeCompte]

GOD STRIKE ME DEAD! ****!

http://cgi.ebay.com/PEDULLA-RAPTURE-5-STRING-BASS-MINT_W0QQitemZ350022973572QQihZ022QQcategoryZ4713Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohost ing

[EADGC]

GOD STRIKE ME DEAD! ****!

http://cgi.ebay.com/PEDULLA-RAPTURE-5-STRING-BASS-MINT_W0QQitemZ350022973572QQihZ022QQcategoryZ4713Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohost ing


*creams*

[Jody LeCompte]

Just the grain of the fingerboard is nice than all of my gear together.

It makes me sick to think of the kind of stuff I could own if I had any patience. $1500 dollars really isn't a lot of money, I'm still at a point where I have very few bills, but saving isn't my strongest asset.

[OkSeriouslyI'mNotSade]

I put up a new song on my profile.

http://www.myspace.com/raayl

shackle shrapnel.

[Jody LeCompte]

stfu.

I'll listen when I'm ready.

Whore.

[OkSeriouslyI'mNotSade]

stfu.

I'll listen when I'm ready.

Whore.

just letting you know big daddy, just letting you know.

[Jody LeCompte]

Yeah, I had already listened to it.

My only complaint is the synth seems to overpower your vocals. Your screaming style invokes imagery of a convict clawing at the bars of his cage, and the image is lost when the synth overpowers the mix.

[irishslappop]

phase one of Uber RBX170 complete. EMGs, wiring, custom aluminum jack.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/irishslappop/Image105.jpg

****ing cocksuckers

[Jody LeCompte]

EMGs fail.

[irishslappop]

kinda like keith urban as a musican huh?

[Jody LeCompte]

Yeah, pretty much.

Brad Paisley would eat Keith Urban given the chance.

[irishslappop]

meh, their names are equally gay so i dont really car which one does the *** eating :lol:








im just tryin to get your goat :)

gotta finish up my art project.

[Jody LeCompte]

I actually used to be uber into Keith Urban until I saw Brad Paisley play live, Brad Paisley's style is so much funkier.

EDIT: Funny thing is, I'm actually blaring In Flames at the moment.

[Jaded]

yeah, but you still listen to pop country

[Thonk]

came across your mom's face for free today.




:amaze:
quoted for pure greatness

[Jody LeCompte]

I listen to just about everything, somehow, I'll live.

[Ting]

Capillarian!

[Thonk]

i still move work from the AM to the PM

nigga's got beef i'ma spray em when i see em

lay em when i see em

AK em when i see em

hop out the bronco and OJ em when i see em

[thelowsoundofbass]

Gah, hacking the newest firmware for the Ipod touch is so freaking hard/confusing.

lowsound

[Jody LeCompte]

I'm playing Neopets, weeee!

[Ting]

I'm playing Neopets, weeee!

Shoot yourself in the face. Now.

[DaveSavesTheDay]

Man, school is weak.

[trumpeter]

mmhm

[thelowsoundofbass]

FRICK! Why can't this be easy?

lowsound

[Jody LeCompte]

Well, if I had anything else to do I'd be doing it, trust me.

[thelowsoundofbass]

Well, if I had anything else to do I'd be doing it, trust me.

Other than hacking an ipod touch?

lowsound

[Jody LeCompte]

I don't have an ipod, I have a zune.

[thelowsoundofbass]

I don't have an ipod, I have a zune.

I feel sorry for you.









































Jokes man, but I do like the touch better than the zunes.

lowsound

[Jody LeCompte]

I can't use an ipod, thumb isn't steady enough.

[thelowsoundofbass]

I can't use an ipod, thumb isn't steady enough.

Touches are way different. Just touch the screen with your finger and away you go. Plus you can hack them and put some really cool stuff on it, you can even turn them into a phone. Although it is a pain to hack them. Driving me nuts, I have to go out and buy a wireless router tomorrow so I can do it.

lowsound

[Jaded]

I can't use an ipod, thumb isn't steady enough.

I feel you man. I haven't been able to keep my hands still for as long as I can remember. They twitch like muthas.

[thelowsoundofbass]

I feel you man. I haven't been able to keep my hands still for as long as I can remember. They twitch like muthas.

That only happens to me when I don't eat enough sugar. I get mad shakes.

lowsound

[Jody LeCompte]

I bought my Zune because I just HAD to have an mp3 player for work and Walmart was out of Ipods.

I ended up really liking mine, I just don't like having to buy music now.

[OkSeriouslyI'mNotSade]

new thread that requires posts about a new song that requires listens.

lowsound, feel free to put down your hacking job and post about how much it sucks.

[Jody LeCompte]

I went to the local bookstore to preorder Victor Wooten's The Music Lesson and The Bass Extremes notation book and I saw a book called "Grey Hat Hacking: Hacking for the Ethical Hacker". I nearly died laughing.

[Understanding In a Crash]

My sister has a creative Zen. It's quite good for the money. Flashy too.

[thelowsoundofbass]

Well I have my ipod hacked as far as I can do it without a WiFi connection. Gotta go buy a wireless router tomorrow (well later today). Freaking long process, even more so with a slow internet connection. Should take about 3 more hours total, I had to reset everything to the original ipod touch software version 1.1.1, then start with the hacking and updating each to each new software version. 1.1.3 is the long one, good thing I found an automated hack for it, still takes a few hours.

lowsound

[EADGC]

I am setting up the most pimp room


just you wait

[thelowsoundofbass]

I am setting up the most pimp room


just you wait

Pics or lies.

lowsound

[EADGC]

I'll take some pics

this is what I'm working with:

- queen bed
- desk
- computer
- tv
- 2 huge PA speakers
- bass stuff
- 2 end tables

at the end of the school year I will also have a mini fridge.

it's quite a bit of stuff for one room so I'm trying to find a way to arrange it all.

[thelowsoundofbass]

I'll take some pics

this is what I'm working with:

- queen bed
- desk
- computer
- tv
- 2 huge PA speakers
- bass stuff
- 2 end tables

at the end of the school year I will also have a mini fridge.

it's quite a bit of stuff for one room so I'm trying to find a way to arrange it all.
Do you live in res? How are you going to fit it all in a res room?

lowsound

[EADGC]

No this is my bedroom

my fridge is in my dorm, which is why I said I'll have a fridge at the end of the school year

[Thonk]

same as mine, pretty much.

but, no PA speakers and a bookcase instead of endtables.

i need to get at least one for my bedside, though.

plus rock band **** scattered.. drums next to my pc desk and the guitar is sitting on the rock band box next to my bed/guitars

[thelowsoundofbass]

No this is my bedroom

my fridge is in my dorm, which is why I said I'll have a fridge at the end of the school year

I see, I have way too much junk in my bedroom. Bed, desk, filing cabinet, half stack, dresser, big box, five basses, three guitars, guitar amp, practice amp book shelf and clothes hamper. All in a 12 foot by 12 foot space.

lowsound

[irishslappop]

you forgot your hairy stinkin ***.

[Omega Red]

http://www.youtube.com/v/nTQOpibv_OA&rel

[Rollo47]

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=405519

Someone buy this.

[EADGC]

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=405519

Someone buy this.

Ritter: one hideous, ridiculously expensive bass after another.

[EADGC]

I see, I have way too much junk in my bedroom. Bed, desk, filing cabinet, half stack, dresser, big box, five basses, three guitars, guitar amp, practice amp book shelf and clothes hamper. All in a 12 foot by 12 foot space.

lowsound


Filing cabinet must go, imo.

take your clothes straight to the laundry room

books in the living room


problem solved

[Efrim]

I live in a basement suite, so I have plenty of space.

I used to have that small of a room, but I solved the problem by not caring anymore.

[BenJammin]

My room is ridiculously small. Second smallest room next to the bathroom.

I still find room for everything.

[Efrim]

My room is ridiculously small. Second smallest room next to the bathroom.

I still find room for everything.


Well, I live on the floor where a portal to John Malkovich's mind is.
I can't even stand up straight.

[BenJammin]

Well, I live on the floor where a portal to John Malkovich's mind is.
I can't even stand up straight.

Don't you one-up me, young man.

[irishslappop]

my room is a god forsaken mess right now. Mainly due to my art class which has me cut out like 50 pictures every week so i have clipping and glue all over the place. it seriously looks like a year old lives in there if you look at the ground. Then you seen the snoop dogg, pulp fiction, and animal house posters :p

[Efrim]

Don't you one-up me, young man.

Back in 'Nam, I one-upped three hookers at the same time.

[trumpeter]

I share my room with my roommate and his dumb gecko.

[Efrim]

I share my room with my roommate and his dumb gecko.

Sleep with the gecko and kick the roommate out.

[BenJammin]

Back in 'Nam, I one-upped three hookers at the same time.

:lol:

[trumpeter]

Sleep with the gecko and kick the roommate out.

How about kicking them both out so my room doesn't smell like ***

[irishslappop]

Back in 'Nam, I one-upped three hookers at the same time.

My Dad inpersonating vietnamese whore:
"Ey Joe! Buy me Drink! me love you good, real long NO ****!" :lol:
it's hilarious to hear it from someone who was there.

[Efrim]

How about kicking them both out so my room doesn't smell like ***

Then you'll be lonely.

[trumpeter]

I don't care. I like being alone, it allows me to actually get things done.

[Efrim]

I don't care. I like being alone, it allows me to actually get things done.

http://dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert2008021523890.jpg

[Spaceman Spiff]

http://www.myspace.com/capitalaitch

Check out Partisan Politics. We just put up the instrumental version.

Why the hell does everyone have nothing to say about my band?

[Mr. Pickle]

Because it sucks.

[BenJammin]

Get used to it. :p

For every one person who is interested in your music, there'll be 100 who aren't.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Because it sucks.

Thanks, douche bag. Are you ever going to make a post worth reading on this forum?

[Mr. Pickle]

Thanks, douche bag. Are you ever going to make a post worth reading on this forum?

Well god damn, it's all you talk about. This sounds like **** kids in my old middle school made. There are a thousand bands like yours; there is absolutely nothing unique and/or appealing about your music that hasn't already been beaten over the head a thousand times.


If I would have said, "you guys are good," you wouldn't have said anything, would you?

[OkSeriouslyI'mNotSade]

Get used to it. :p

For every one person who is interested in your music, there'll be 100 who aren't.

And rule #1: never confront anybody who openly shreds up your music. Ever. JoZ did it, polak did it. Look what happened.

It's a pretty good measure of success, too-when you have people openly dedicated to shitting on you. For every real fan you should at least 2 dedicated haters. Simple physics.

[Jimbobntnr]

pickle, why was i wtf'ed in that tardument thread?

[Efrim]

You know you're famous when you get beat up after shows.
Like Mark McMolar.

[Mr. Pickle]

pickle, why was i wtf'ed in that tardument thread?

u were mean... wtf

[Jimbobntnr]

yeah, out of character, completely.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Well god damn, it's all you talk about. This sounds like **** kids in my old middle school made. There are a thousand bands like yours; there is absolutely nothing unique about your music.


If I would have said, "you guys are good," you wouldn't have said anything, would you?

Umm... no it isn't. I whored at first to get people to realize, "Oh, this guy has a band." Now I pretty much just post about it when we have something different to show to people.

And I'm pretty sure I would have replied to you had you said you liked it. I probably would have had a series of follow-up questions. Just like I reply to most who say something about my music.

But you're just an awful poster on this forum and never have anything to say. That's why I called you douche bag, not because you don't like my band. You constantly make posts that just say, "It sucks," or something along those lines, no matter what it is.

[Spaceman Spiff]

And rule #1: never confront anybody who openly shreds up your music. Ever. JoZ did it, polak did it. Look what happened.

It's a pretty good measure of success, too-when you have people openly dedicated to shitting on you. For every real fan you should at least 2 dedicated haters. Simple physics.

I just wanted to express my distaste for this guy as a human being. I wasn't getting on him about not liking my music.

[Efrim]

yeah, out of character, completely.

hxxp://rapidshare.com/files/58671623/Swans_-_Annihilator.rar

I don't know if you found any Swans, but this is my favourite album.

[Jimbobntnr]

thanks

[Efrim]

mmmm, just downloaded the last piece of reason.
Now I have to wait 8 hours and get the other .rar files from my other computah.

[Mr. Pickle]

yeah, out of character, completely.

yeah, srsly.


Umm... no it isn't. I whored at first to get people to realize, "Oh, this guy has a band." Now I pretty much just post about it when we have something different to show to people.

vvvvvvv

But you're just an awful poster on this forum and never have anything to say. That's why I called you douche bag, not because you don't like my band. You constantly make posts that just say, "It sucks," or something along those lines, no matter what it is.

Then we're square on this issue, b/c we are both apparently are making accusations. The only thing I ever hear you say is "hey everyone, listen to my shitty band," and all I apparently say is "it sucks." You're welcome to look through my posts and see how often I say that; you'd probably be surprised at how wrong you are, but everyone sees what they want to see.

The only time I say "it sucks" is when people whore their shitty music. Make a thread about it, I probably wont listen to it and won't comment. Come in here and keep saying "listen to my crap, listen to my crap!" I'll go listen to it and tell you if it sucks. I'm not going to go and try to write out well-thought critiques (I save those for Garageband they might actually have some impact) because no one on here actually cares about the critiques people give. They won't actually take any of it into consideration, they'll just keep writing the same shitty music and just keep looking for the few compliments they'll recieve from the same people each time.



And I'm pretty sure I would have replied to you had you said you liked it. I probably would have had a series of follow-up questions. Just like I reply to most who say something about my music.

The point was that "You guys are good," is just as useless of a comment as, "It sucks." Why wouldn't you do follow up questions to find out why someone didn't like your music? Because you, like majority of the people who post music on here, just want to fish for compliments. Go ahead and deny it, but you basically already proved it.

[OkSeriouslyI'mNotSade]

yeah, srsly.




vvvvvvv



Then we're square on this issue, b/c we are both apparently are making accusations. The only thing I ever hear you say is "hey everyone, listen to my poopty band," and all I apparently say is "it sucks." You're welcome to look through my posts and see how often I say that; you'd probably be surprised at how wrong you are, but everyone sees what they want to see.

The only time I say "it sucks" is when people whore their poopty music. Make a thread about it, I probably wont listen to it and won't comment. Come in here and keep saying "listen to my crap, listen to my crap!" I'll go listen to it and tell you if it sucks. I'm not going to go and try to write out well-thought critiques (I save those for Garageband they might actually have some impact) because no one on here actually cares about the critiques people give. They won't actually take any of it into consideration, they'll just keep writing the same poopty music and just keep looking for the few compliments they'll recieve from the same people each time.





The point was that "You guys are good," is just as useless of a comment as, "It sucks." Why wouldn't you do follow up questions to find out why someone didn't like your music? Because you, like majority of the people who post music on here, just want to fish for compliments. Go ahead and deny it, but you basically already proved it.

I post my music here because there are a handful of people that I openly respect and look forward to hearing their critiques for each song I post. If it were possible I'd work with them in the studio before I even post songs. Ben, EADGC, Naut, etc.

I also take all critiques I feel valid into consideration. You can hear it from track to track.

Keep in mind, big guy, that this is a forum based around being a musician, not a listener. You never post anything you've done musically, and you never say anything worth reading regarding other people's music. Even I give honest critique when I feel the artist worth it. So watch where you're stepping with this argument.

[Jimbobntnr]

my alt's name is etc I guess.

[OkSeriouslyI'mNotSade]

my alt's name is etc I guess.

You are wayyyyy too subtle, Jamey. Jesus.

[Jimbobntnr]

I just want an honorable ****ing mention. I don't think that's too much to ask.

I can't wait til I can get some real friends and get out of this pos forum.

[Efrim]

I just want an honorable ****ing mention. I don't think that's too much to ask.

I can't wait til I can get some real friends and get out of this pos forum.

We're all waiting for that to happen, believe me.

[Spaceman Spiff]

The only time I say "it sucks" is when people whore their poopty music. Make a thread about it, I probably wont listen to it and won't comment. Come in here and keep saying "listen to my crap, listen to my crap!" I'll go listen to it and tell you if it sucks. I'm not going to go and try to write out well-thought critiques (I save those for Garageband they might actually have some impact) because no one on here actually cares about the critiques people give. They won't actually take any of it into consideration, they'll just keep writing the same poopty music and just keep looking for the few compliments they'll recieve from the same people each time.


Well, you did give your overly abusive critique, I wasn't expecting anything more.



The point was that "You guys are good," is just as useless of a comment as, "It sucks." Why wouldn't you do follow up questions to find out why someone didn't like your music? Because you, like majority of the people who post music on here, just want to fish for compliments. Go ahead and deny it, but you basically already proved it.

I have done follow-up with people who don't like it. I just didn't see a point in asking you anything else, since you never seem to elaborate on your "It sucks." Or, in this case, "It sucks and I've heard stuff just like it before."

[OkSeriouslyI'mNotSade]

I just want an honorable ****ing mention. I don't think that's too much to ask.

I can't wait til I can get some real friends and get out of this pos forum.

Remember that one time we were talking on AIM, and you were like "Dude, I gotta go to a bar with some friends my own age."

I think we both felt a little creeped out by that.

[Jimbobntnr]

We're all waiting for that to happen, believe me.

haha


tomorrow's Valentine's Day, guys.

[OkSeriouslyI'mNotSade]

haha


tomorrow's Valentine's Day, guys.

Don't remind me.

[Jimbobntnr]

Remember that one time we were talking on AIM, and you were like "Dude, I gotta go to a bar with some friends my own age."

I think we both felt a little creeped out by that.

we took a hiatus at that point, didnt we?

[Efrim]

haha


tomorrow's Valentine's Day, guys.

I'll send your chocolates via fax.

[Mr. Pickle]

Keep in mind, big guy, that this is a forum based around being a musician, not a listener. You never post anything you've done musically, and you never say anything worth reading regarding other people's music. Even I give honest critique when I feel the artist worth it. So watch where you're stepping with this argument.

Again, this is reference to the people who feel the need to whore their music up and down the forum. You make a thread, and maybe put a post in the casual (if that). So you're kind of an exception.

You're also, basically, the only person who has composed band-like (i really can't pick a good work for this, but I'm trying to think of one) music that I actually enjoy, and you seem to have a constant quality to your music.

But in all seriousness, how many bands on here have started out as crap, but have then actually taken people's critiques on here and actually started producing "better" music. (I was never taking any of these songs made for bass comps and **** into consideration, but that might be irrelevant.)

[OkSeriouslyI'mNotSade]

we took a hiatus at that point, didnt we?

I think so. We had a couple breaks.

Our high point was the second half of last year when I had school until 12 pm everyday, and you were unemployed.

So I got home right when you were waking up, and we talked about how desolate our lives are.

[OkSeriouslyI'mNotSade]

Again, this is reference to the people who fell the need to whore their music up and down the forum. You make a thread, and maybe put a post in the casual (if that). So you're kind of an exception.

You're also, basically, the only person who has composed band-like (i really can't pick a good work for this, but I'm trying to think of one) music that I actually enjoy, and you seem to have a constant quality to your music.

But in all seriousness, how many bands on here have started out as crap, but have then actually taken people's critiques on here and actually started producing "better" music. (I was never taking any of these songs made for bass comps and **** into consideration, but that might be irrelevant.)

I agree with you, I have called out the "fishing for compliments" argument on people before. I think its a realistic thing to say.

But you said "no one on this forum." I had to defend myself. You understand.

[Efrim]

Damn all this success, now you two can't talk as much.

[OkSeriouslyI'mNotSade]

Damn all this success, now you two can't talk as much.

I know, he got a job right as I quit mine. Now the tables are turned.

[Efrim]

I know, he got a job right as I quit mine. Now the tables are turned.

The key is to have a job where lurking on the internet is tacitly condoned.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Please, Pickleson, tell me what you don't like about my band. Tell me what we can do to improve. I'll gladly pass on any helpful information to the other band members.

[Jimbobntnr]

I recorded music then, too. None of it was very good, but I did record.

And I uploaded some SP for you. I think you were totally into Linken Park at the time.

I need to be mentioned on the liner notes.

[OkSeriouslyI'mNotSade]

The key is to have a job where lurking on the internet is tacitly condoned.

I like my job. Make music, occasionally sell an album to eat.

gg.

[Mr. Pickle]

Well, you did give your overly abusive critique, I wasn't expecting anything more.




I have done follow-up with people who don't like it. I just didn't see a point in asking you anything else, since you never seem to elaborate on your "It sucks." Or, in this case, "It sucks and I've heard stuff just like it before."

Your basis for this is basically assumption with nothing to back it up...

NO ONE ever asks me to elaborate. No one on here has any idea as to how thoughtful and/or helpful my critiques could be, (I'm not saying they are, I'm just saying you, nor anyone else, has any idea).

[Efrim]

I recorded music then, too. None of it was very good, but I did record.

And I uploaded some SP for you. I think you were totally into Linken Park at the time.

I need to be mentioned on the liner notes.

i liked that piece of an industrial song you posted.

[Jimbobntnr]

Spiff, even if you were to post the most perfect recording known to man - Black Flag's Jealous Again, you would still not be able to please everyone. People just have different tastes in music.

[Mr. Pickle]

I agree with you, I have called out the "fishing for compliments" argument on people before. I think its a realistic thing to say.

But you said "no one on this forum." I had to defend myself. You understand.

yeah, yeah.

Please, Pickleson, tell me what you don't like about my band. Tell me what we can do to improve. I'll gladly pass on any helpful information to the other band members.

Don't be a smartass.

[Efrim]

I like my job. Make music, occasionally sell an album to eat.

gg.

Sounds like hell.

...

[Spaceman Spiff]

Don't be a smartass.

That post was dead serious except for the Pickleson. Come on, give Capital H a well thought out your critique, show me what we can do to improve for our next album.

We don't really have the time to just record songs on a whim, new songs will have to wait until we're ready to record again.

[Efrim]

I wish Colt made better t-shirts.

[Mr. Pickle]

You don't like me. You wouldn't take one word I said into consideration, because you already have a predetermined image of me and my attitude, so no thanks.

I'm going to go proofread my English paper instead.

[Jimbobntnr]

I'm going to go proofread my English paper instead.
harsh dude.
harsh.

[Jimbobntnr]

I wish Colt made better t-shirts.

have them post a T Shirt here, and we'll all take a look and make suggestions.
We've got nothing better to do.

[Mr. Pickle]

harsh dude.
harsh.

I try.

Do you have a 360?

[Efrim]

have them post a T Shirt here, and we'll all take a look and make suggestions.
We've got nothing better to do.

http://www.coltsmfg.com/cmci/images/eshop_T-Shirts.gif

That's all they have.