Favorite bands and how they're currently influencing you.

[Tryxx]

I'm just going to limit this to your top 3-5 favorite bands, or most listened to artists at the moment.


Raayl
Pavement
Mindless Self Indulgence
Mogwai
30 Seconds to Mars


What I'm listening now really doesn't influence me much on bass. If I had the ability to make competent music though, you could assure that it would be effects heavy as hell, and lyrically attempt to tell a story. I imagine being mostly free form and inconsistent in both melody and mood. More on the fly with quite a bit of energy.

/end half-assed attempt to make a thread.

[Raayl]

:O I'm not a band silly

[irishslappop]

i kind have two different departments here. music that influences me on the bass nd music that influences song writing.

Bass:
PRIMUS
Sublime
The expendables
Slightly stupid
aesop rock

Song writing:
Aesop Rock
Raayl [the older Rated R stuff]
Led zeppelin
Zach de la Rocha
Tech nine

some other music im addicted to:
Andre nickatina
The expendables
Pepper
incubas
tom petty [playing the super bowl **** yes.]

[EADGC]

I'm not really influenced by technique at all anymore. Technique is really just the means to an end, and something anyone can teach you.

What I'm looking for in music lately are things you have to teach yourself: good musicianship, creativity, and taste. That said, here are the top artists currently influencing my writing:

- Explosions in the Sky
- Jeff Buckley
- Between the Buried and Me
- Neverending White Lights

also, you guys with all of the songwriting/professional musician discussion lately. Not for anyone's music, but all of the opinions and philosophies being passed around. I'm actually learning a lot about how to become a professional, serious musical artist from the discussions, so thanks guys. Let's keep it coming

[Moon Flavor]

lol@raayl replies

j/k ly sade

My 3 favorite bands change every 2 or so days, but guaranteed if i pick up a bass in that time, I will rip off one of those 3 bands in one way or another. :)

[Tryxx]

I'm just going to limit this to your top 3-5 favorite bands, or most listened to artists at the moment.:O I'm not a band silly

I win. With a possible ninja edit.

[Raayl]

I'm not really influenced by technique at all anymore. Technique is really just the means to an end, and something anyone can teach you.

What I'm looking for in music lately are things you have to teach yourself: good musicianship, creativity, and taste. That said, here are the top artists currently influencing my writing:

- Explosions in the Sky
- Jeff Buckley
- Between the Buried and Me
- Neverending White Lights

also, you guys with all of the songwriting/professional musician discussion lately. Not for anyone's music, but all of the opinions and philosophies being passed around. I'm actually learning a lot about how to become a professional, serious musical artist from the discussions, so thanks guys. Let's keep it coming

I agree. A lot of good discussion going on. Also, we have a lot of prime examples of how NOT to behave as a professional musician, ever.

[EADGC]

I agree. A lot of good discussion going on. Also, we have a lot of prime examples of how NOT to behave as a professional musician, ever.

hahaha

beyond true.

[DaveSavesTheDay]

I'm just going to limit this to your top 3-5 favorite bands, or most listened to artists at the moment.


Raayl
Pavement
Mindless Self Indulgence
Mogwai
30 Seconds to Mars


What I'm listening now really doesn't influence me much on bass. If I had the ability to make competent music though, you could assure that it would be effects heavy as hell, and lyrically attempt to tell a story. I imagine being mostly free form and inconsistent in both melody and mood. More on the fly with quite a bit of energy.

/end half-assed attempt to make a thread.

I've always liked them. They have a new CD coming out soon, yeah?


i kind have two different departments here. music that influences me on the bass nd music that influences song writing.

Bass:
PRIMUS
Sublime
The expendables
Slightly stupid
aesop rock

Song writing:
Aesop Rock
Raayl [the older Rated R stuff]
Led zeppelin
Zach de la Rocha
Tech nine

some other music im addicted to:
Andre nickatina
The expendables
Pepper
incubas
tom petty [playing the super bowl **** yes.]

Great stuff

[Naminator]

Tool - lyrics w/ psychedelia
D.T (I&W tiems) Simplicity and virtuosity
Chick Corea & Miles Davis - Improvisation
Classical - It's simply awesome

[BenJammin]

I'm not really influenced by technique at all anymore. Technique is really just the means to an end, and something anyone can teach you.

What I'm looking for in music lately are things you have to teach yourself: good musicianship, creativity, and taste. That said, here are the top artists currently influencing my writing:

- Explosions in the Sky
- Jeff Buckley
- Between the Buried and Me
- Neverending White Lights

also, you guys with all of the songwriting/professional musician discussion lately. Not for anyone's music, but all of the opinions and philosophies being passed around. I'm actually learning a lot about how to become a professional, serious musical artist from the discussions, so thanks guys. Let's keep it coming

I agree on all counts, plus EitS and NWL are awesome (did you check out their second release? Absolutely amazing).

Right now, I find a lot of my influence comes from people who can do a lot with very little. Minimalism, but it has to be interesting.

A lot of electronic stuff, and old video game music (SNES stuff, pretty much anything Nobuo Uematsu and Yasunori Mitsuda had a hand in). Ace stuff.

[Raayl]

I'd have to say my biggest influence is myself. Seeing as that is who I listen to the most.

other than that...

Actually, I don't even know. I don't really listen to anything. I'm too busy making music to sit down and listen to it.

[deemo]

just a lot of pop bands like of montreal, islands. other stuff like broken social scene, some french canadian bands like malajube and we are wolves. they all just give me ideas for song writing and stuff. and i wrote a sparklehorse-esque song (if anyone has heard the song "Pig")

[rh15951]

jesus lizard
venetian snares
mclusky

[Understanding In a Crash]

Current influencing bands:
Protest The Hero - Bass & all musical talents
Between The Buried and Me - Bass & all musical talents
Dance Gavin Dance - Sound/Vocals
Horse The Band - Innovations

Always will influence me:
Thursday
Thrice
Coheed and Cambria
glassJAW
Hopesfall

[ebe9]

Tool - Trying to emulate the melodic "chord" like playing (Think Schism and Stink Fist)
RHCP - Trying to get my slap more rounded and funky

[Efrim]

Prince.

*cough*

[Led_Zeppelin678]

mewithoutYou - Lyrics, lyrics, lyrics
Between The Buried And Me - Bass, Arrangements, Heavy/Beautiful contrast
Pantera - Riffs
Dillinger Escape Plan - Thought about it...can't pin it down, but it's there.

My playing in general though is a garbled mess of JPJ, Claypool, Sheehan, Wooten, and Rex Brown.

[megadeth456]

Raayl
Pavement
Mindless Self Indulgence
Mogwai
30 Seconds to Mars




nice with the MSI.

Are we talking first or second album by 30 Seconds to Mars?

[Livewire]

Iron Maiden has been a huge influence on me. As queer as it might sound and what some people might think of them. musically, they're songs are well put together with theory and such. steve harris's bass lines are so good. playing along with him has improved my finger style a lot these past few months. jamming along with jimi hendrix has improved my ability to play more freely and and jam better in a band environment. and a lot more i cant think of right now.

[megadeth456]

Iron Maiden has been a huge influence on me. As queer as it might sound and what some people might think of them. musically, they're songs are well put together with theory and such. steve harris's bass lines are so good. playing along with him has improved my finger style a lot these past few months. jamming along with jimi hendrix has improved my ability to play more freely and and jam better in a band environment. and a lot more i cant think of right now.

This man speaks truth. Iron Maiden is why i started bass.

[EADGC]

I agree on all counts, plus EitS and NWL are awesome (did you check out their second release? Absolutely amazing).



Still yet to check out Act II

I must get on that.

[Understanding In a Crash]

mewithoutYou - Lyrics, lyrics, lyrics
Between The Buried And Me - Bass, Arrangements, Heavy/Beautiful contrast
Pantera - Riffs
Dillinger Escape Plan - Thought about it...can't pin it down, but it's there.

My playing in general though is a garbled mess of JPJ, Claypool, Sheehan, Wooten, and Rex Brown.
TOUCHE!

[blacklungfever]

aside from the lyrics, mewithoutyou has some of the sweetest groove parts. Their drummer and bass player are amazing.

[Linkinbassist]

Current influencing bands:
Protest The Hero - Bass & all musical talents
Between The Buried and Me - Bass & all musical talents
Dance Gavin Dance - Sound/Vocals
Horse The Band - Innovations

Always will influence me:
Thursday
Thrice
Coheed and Cambria
glassJAW
Hopesfall

I love you so much :)

My fave artists in songwriting terms:-

1) Reuben
2) Glassjaw
3) Jeff Buckley
4) Jose Gonzalez
5) Bloc Party

[Jody LeCompte]

Stu Hamm - With the virtuous guitarits and bassist splitting up(Satch / Hamm, Vai / Sheehan, etc) and doing solo stuff to feature their instrument as the primary focus of the universe, it's nice to hear a solo album(a solo bass album with that) that features guitar playing, drumming, and ambient noise every bit as impressive as the bass. Stu Hamm's Outbound inspires me to write more complicated voicings and melodies on both instruments rather than dumbing down one to feature the other more predominantly.

John Butler Trio - Listening to Shannon Birchall makes me really internalize what it's like to be a good bass player. He's not a flashy guy, plays very few notes. But his sense of note selection is nothing short of perfect, he knows EXACTLY how to take a chord progression and suck every bit of color you possibly can from it.

Scissor Sisters: Songs like "Return to Oz", "Comfortably Numb" (in before Its a cover lawl), and "Land of a Thousand Words" inspire my overall sense of composition. I have Return to Oz on as I type this and it's DRENCHED in texture. They manage to flow effortlessly from homoerotic dance music to all out soundscape very smoothly and they are very powerful strongwriters.

Iron and Wine - Influences my fingerstyle technique a good bit, some of those songs(Boy in a Coin, etc) take quite a bit of finger gymnastics to play. But even more so, lyrically and melodically. Iron and Wine songs always feature a story, something is always happining. His sense of melody is absolutely amazing. I'd give my whole package if I could just write songs like him all day.

And finally,
Elliott Smith - Vocally and lyrically. Elliott Smith's style of singing just seems to be what comes most naturally to me, but his melodies and harmonies are quite amazing and I definitely draw a lot from that. His lyrics are also everything I could possibly want to write. Lines like "the dead soldiers lined up on the table, still prepared for an attack / they didn't know they'd been disabled" get me every time. Definite, genius.

[Tryxx]

nice with the MSI.

Are we talking first or second album by 30 Seconds to Mars?

First album mostly. It's one of those things that will sit glued in my CD player for weeks on end. MSI, I just listen to everything I can, there's so much I can't get bored of it, yet all the songs stick in my head.

[Jaded]

Pete Rock- he is the man at layering and harmonizing samples. He'll use 25 samples or more in a track sometimes and you could have no idea because it's so seamless.

Ron Carter- do I need to say anything? His groove is so deep, his note choices are flawless...

Steve Swallow- Good god his phrasing is melodic. Awesome tone with that bass of his too.

Dr. Dre- The man knows his hooks. Dre beats are among the catchiest I've heard. You can't listen to "Let me Ride" without hearing that p funk sample in your head for the rest of the day.

That's all I got. I get inspired mostly by producers, guys like J dilla (rip), Stoupe (from JMT), El-P, Ant, DJ Premier and Marley Marl.

[megadeth456]

First album mostly. It's one of those things that will sit glued in my CD player for weeks on end. MSI, I just listen to everything I can, there's so much I can't get bored of it, yet all the songs stick in my head.

yea that first album is kickass. love that one. I can listen to MSI for days.

[OutontheTiles]

Rob Derhak From moe. --- When ever im see him live he always amazes me. Its hard to explain but whenever i right a song i think about him. His early playing is really funk/chili pepper influenced, slaping and such but now he backs up the band more than anything. He's showed me that you can be a good bassist, and play as little as possible but at the same time do some leads.

Mike Gordon --- I think being a jam band bassist is all about backing up the band, "putting it in the pocket" which sometimes, for me, is the hardest thing in the world`, but still do a lot of jamming. What really sums up his playing for me is in the song Free, he plays right along with everyone till like the last 30 seconds and then he lays down some fatty basslines. Again you can be a good bassist with playing as little as possible.

[EADGC]

Stu Hamm - With the virtuous guitarits and bassist splitting up(Satch / Hamm, Vai / Sheehan, etc) and doing solo stuff to feature their instrument as the primary focus of the universe, it's nice to hear a solo album(a solo bass album with that) that features guitar playing, drumming, and ambient noise every bit as impressive as the bass. Stu Hamm's Outbound inspires me to write more complicated voicings and melodies on both instruments rather than dumbing down one to feature the other more predominantly.



Never knew you were a Hamm fan.

[Jody LeCompte]

I've been a Stu Hamm fan since the Satch in San Fransisco bass solo was all-the-mx-rage.

[EADGC]

I was not aware of these fact.

[Jody LeCompte]

You never give me the attention a lover deserves.

[EADGC]

So Stuart Hamm eh


my favourites:

The Tenacity of Genes and Dreams
Dr. Gradus ad Parnasum
Terminal Beach
Outbound
Black Ice
Flow My Tears...


everything except the album "The Urge" basically.

still havn't checked out his new live album.

[Jody LeCompte]

Stu Live x 2?

Its a been sloppy at parts, but it's a pretty ace cd.

My favorite Stu Hamm song is "...remember". So much texture. It's amazing.

[Az_Holl]

At the moment:

The White Stripes (because of the rawness/simplicity)
Frank Zappa (because of the content and weirdness of his songs)

and ill always be a hardcore RATM fan boy :p

[Raayl]

dude, Stu Hamm sucks. Seriously, I can honestly say I am a better tapper than he is. So is half of this forum.

It's just...bad. Moonlight Sonata is poorly played, terribly executed and horrendously recorded. Awful sustain, the tone is absolutely digusting, and there is NO dynamic element at all.

Same with all his other recordings. Total, utter garbage. He survives as a bassist on his name ALONE which was fed by the guitar players he plays with. (Who are equally terrible.)

[Jody LeCompte]

I don't care how he's producing the melodies, I just like them, bro.

[Raayl]

I don't care how he's producing the melodies, I just like them, bro.

They ****ing suck ***, "bro."

[Raayl]

Plus, the guy is completely unprofessional. In that huge Stu Hamm video on youtube, (the most popular one where he plays his little "set-list" of retarded solo bass songs) He blatantly ****s up Linus and Lucy in several spots, as well as messes up alot of other notes in other songs. Country Music he just butchers in almost every live show I see him play it. Which is funny, cause that song sucks in the first place.

It's like dude, if you're gonna make the Charlie Brown theme your flagship song, the least you can do is practice the ****ing thing.

[EADGC]

dude, Stu Hamm sucks. Seriously, I can honestly say I am a better tapper than he is. So is half of this forum.

It's just...bad. Moonlight Sonata is poorly played, terribly executed and horrendously recorded. Awful sustain, the tone is absolutely digusting, and there is NO dynamic element at all.

Same with all his other recordings. Total, utter garbage. He survives as a bassist on his name ALONE which was fed by the guitar players he plays with. (Who are equally terrible.)

Sorry I am going to have to say I only half agree.

His Moonlight is pretty bad.. but I think it was just a really terrible song choice. I don't care who plays it - that song will never sound good on any other instrument but piano, and maybe classical guitar. To me at least. Aside from timbre, playing those 3 separate parts is ridiculously hard, nevermind playing them cleanly and sustaining all of the notes


but saying half the forum is better? I totally disagree. I am one of the most dedicated tappers on this board, it's probably at least half of what I play. Some of Stu's stuff is still beyond me.


as for screwing up, I totally agree with you. He does it too much and it's not professional. tone.. well that's subjective, but in my opinion he sounds much better with his new rig.

Anyway, you can't deny that he's got chops. There's no doubt about it. If you don't believe me, please try playing Dr. Gradus Ad Parnasum, Outbound, Country Music, or Sexually Active, at least as cleanly as he does, and up to tempo.

[Raayl]

Sorry I am going to have to say I only half agree.

His Moonlight is pretty bad.. but I think it was just a really terrible song choice. I don't care who plays it - that song will never sound good on any other instrument but piano, and maybe classical guitar. To me at least. Aside from timbre, playing those 3 separate parts is ridiculously hard, nevermind playing them cleanly and sustaining all of the notes


but saying half the forum is better? I totally disagree. I am one of the most dedicated tappers on this board, it's probably at least half of what I play. Some of Stu's stuff is still beyond me.


as for screwing up, I totally agree with you. He does it too much and it's not professional. tone.. well that's subjective, but in my opinion he sounds much better with his new rig.

Anyway, you can't deny that he's got chops. There's no doubt about it. If you don't believe me, please try playing Dr. Gradus Ad Parnasum, Outbound, Country Music, or Sexually Active, at least as cleanly as he does, and up to tempo.

Why would I care what "chops" he has if it all sounds like a big pile of ****in' steamy dogshit?

Wasn't it just last night you told me on MSN "Hey man, I know-I agree with you, chops don't make good songs or make you a good musician."

Endo-****in' story.

[Dethklok_1]

KoRn

[EADGC]

Why would I care what "chops" he has if it all sounds like a big pile of ****in' steamy dogshit?

Wasn't it just last night you told me on MSN "Hey man, I know-I agree with you, chops don't make good songs or make you a good musician."

Endo-****in' story.


But his songs don't sound like a "big pile of ****in' steamy dogshit" to me and many people. I own a few of his albums. I have more on my computer. I enjoy listening to his music and I have for years.

No chops don't make good music. but I think he makes good music - and he has great chops on top of that.

ur mom

[Raayl]

But his songs don't sound like a "big pile of ****in' steamy dogshit" to me and many people. I own a few of his albums. I have more on my computer. I enjoy listening to his music and I have for years.

ur mom

It's just like Jean Baudin. I'm years ahead of you. One day you will look back on this and laugh that you ever enjoyed anything Stu Hamm has done.

[EADGC]

It's just like Jean Baudin. I'm years ahead of you. One day you will look back on this and laugh that you ever enjoyed anything Stu Hamm has done.

Why?

I like the music regardless. Virtuoso bassist or not, I think he's a good composer. A lot of the time I'm not even focusing on his playing because I think he writes very suitable and catchy melodies. A few examples would be Kings of Sleep, Outbound

Obviously the exceptions are things like his bass intros, bass centric songs, and solos since the bass is pretty much hard to avoid, and there's not much else interesting to listen to.


and I still enjoy Jean Baudin's music, for the record. It's just tainted by the CD issue.

[Dethklok_1]

metallica...... it just all goes together i camnt explain it

[Akira]

Stu Hamm infuriates me because of how lazy he is and how horribly he plays 95% of the time, but I agree he can write.

Charlotte's Song is just gorgeous.

[Linkinbassist]

my friends girlfriends dad used to Stu Hamm's sound :p blame him...

[Naminator]

Tool - Trying to emulate the melodic "chord" like playing (Think Schism and Stink Fist)
RHCP - Trying to get my slap more rounded and funky

You can get a bongo for the latter. :angry:

[EADGC]

Stu Hamm infuriates me because of how lazy he is and how horribly he plays 95% of the time

This basically

[Led_Zeppelin678]

TOUCHE!

If that's supposed to mean something good, then thanks!

[Led_Zeppelin678]

aside from the lyrics, mewithoutyou has some of the sweetest groove parts. Their drummer and bass player are amazing.

Yeah, they're beyond amazing. All I've really listened to for like a week now.

[Dez_Axer]

Music writing would be CAKE
Musicianship and theory would have to be Phish
Technique and "I wish I could do that" is definately Flecktones

[exit]

Incubus
just one particular song: Summertime - Janis Joplin
jeff buckley

[Jaded]

Stu Hamm infuriates me because of how lazy he is and how horribly he plays 95% of the time, but I agree he can write.
Not that it really matters but he also looks like a fat old bastard trying to look cool by playing sparkley basses.

And what the hell is B3, I mean c'mon now people, who goes to that.

[EADGC]

And what the hell is B3, I mean c'mon now people, who goes to that.

In a word: nerds


nah I'd still go if it came anywhere around my neck of the woods. And Jeff Berlin wasn't playing.