anonymous vs Scientology

[Omega Red]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JCbKv9yiLiQ
http://youtube.com/watch?v=YrkchXCzY70

be wary of the 10th of February

discuss

[Mister_Che]

Ultimately, I don't expect anything to happen. This whole situation seems like it's riling people up to protest, but no one will actually go out and protest the Church of Scientologys tactics.

[guitrguy]

I saw a video not to long ago where 3 scientologist kept asking what the Cameraman's crimes were. They wouldn't even listen to what he was saying. They are nuts.

[Against Miik!]

I don't see what the big deal is. The Church of Scientology is really no different than any other church when you think about it. Also, they its not like they are taking over the world. They don't really have that many members. They just get a lot of coverage because of a few select celebrities. This anonymous group is probably just a bunch of bored, sub par computer hackers who do this when there WoW servers are slow.

[guitrguy]

They are chan people.

[Mister_Che]

The Church of Scientology is really no different than any other church when you think about it.

Maybe not, but right off the top of my head, I can't think of any other religion that will strip you of your property and money to fund your "training," force you to sever communications with your family, or send you to forced labor camps as "rehabilitation" camps.

Not only that, but the Church is so adamant about shutting down any criticising opposition that they will dig and dig and dig to find even the slightest negative flaw in your history to discredit and humiliate you publicly.

[Against Miik!]

I just think idiots should be able to do whatever they want, as long as it doesn't become to widespread. Your description of Scientology sounds a lot like the whole Jim Jones thing. Nobody got pissed about that until it was too late. It was sad don't get me wrong, but a lot of those people, minus the children, probably had it coming for following that nut.
They are chan people.

My point exactly

[spitfirejunky]

The Church of Scientology is really no different than any other church when you think about it.

They actively engage in a number of criminal business practices, for starters.

[Mister_Che]

They also infiltrated the IRS in order to obtain tax exemption status for the Church.

[Liebensaft]

Some people take the internet too far. Anonymous of late has been anything but.

[HNLzero]

its mainly for the lulz, the serious face of the whole thing seems to just be a ruse

[Brewing Up With]

Stupid.

Waste of time.

[Monticello]

I think the whole thing's hilarious. It'll be interesting to see the way that everything pans out in the end and whether a bunch of people could bring down a religion over the internet.

[Otherside]

I love this, best thing *chan has ever been involved with.

[chronopops]

Epic lulz.

[dei]

Old.

[Berner]

Old.

But still relevant.

I would go protest with them if there was a Co$ center near here.

[ringworm]

everytime i see one of those crazy youtubes on some scientology nut i have to step back and realize that there are people that actually practice it and support it



i dont see how they ever got to have more members than the originator

[Smokey D]

Scientology is pretty whacky, but its metaphysics aren't any more intrinsically insane than most religions. And I bet most Scientologists, like most Christians, Hindus and Muslims, are pretty nice people.

[je suis un beau chapeau]

yeah this has nothing to do with beliefs or the lower down people really


its about fair game and operation snow white and freak out and the coerced abortions and all that stuff

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

Scientology is pretty whacky, but its metaphysics aren't any more intrinsically insane than most religions. And I bet most Scientologists, like most Christians, Hindus and Muslims, are pretty nice people.
well thats why anonymous supports the sect of scientologists who look to be scientologists for free

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Zone_(Scientology)



scientologists get a comission for recruiting new members

tax-free, what is that
it's a business not a religion, that's why feb 10 ppl will protest the tax-exempt status is america

[Mr. Ron]

Some parts of Tom's interview are genuinely unsettling. Oh wow, that crazy laugh he has.

[dei]

But still relevant.

I would go protest with them if there was a Co$ center near here.

I'm thinking about going to one of the protests.

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

me and my buddy gonna go by there to see whats goin on

[McP3000]

I would go but as far as im concerned theres not really anything happening in Houston.

Edit: I've been 4chan-ing a lot lately and 1 out of every 10 threads is either about February 10th or that idiot troll that declared war on Anonymous.

[Cocaine]

In the summer, I walked by the Toronto Church of Scientology, and inside there was this group of dudes shredding. Seriously, two guitarists and some guy with a giant 6 string bass, just shredding away in front of some TVs showing the usual LRH interviews.

Also, it was like 2am.

[McP3000]

In the summer, I walked by the Toronto Church of Scientology, and inside there was this group of dudes shredding. Seriously, two guitarists and some guy with a giant 6 string bass, just shredding away in front of some TVs showing the usual LRH interviews.

Also, it was like 2am.
are you high

because the way you phrased that inclines me to believe you have been intoxicated somehow.

[class]

southpark scientology ftw

[Cocaine]

what

[class]

southpark scientology ftw

[Berner]

me and my buddy gonna go by there to see whats goin on

Can I stay at your house if I travel to Winterpeg to do this. I'm poor.

[Kif]

It's kind of funny that there are a few of them taking this seriously, while it's just prank calls, black faxes and DDoS attacks.

[Brewing Up With]

I really don't know what pranking the church of scientology will accomplish. They could spend their time doing something way more productive.

[Knifeboy]

They could spend their time doing something way more productive.

I really doubt that

[Brewing Up With]

^ true, its just a bunch of 4channers

[McP3000]

^ true, its just a bunch of 4channers

a bunch? More like a shitload

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

Can I stay at your house if I travel to Winterpeg to do this. I'm poor.
how long?

[VomitStainedCretin]

I really don't know what pranking the church of scientology will accomplish. They could spend their time doing something way more productive.Like sending scientologists surprise packages that tick...

[Otherside]

Well I don't think even Anon thought the turnout for these protests would have been so large. I'm genuinely impressed at the results of this whole deal.

[Boilermaker]

Anonymous prepare for Scientology 'raids'
http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,25642,23189971-5014239,00.html

Scientology protests begin in Australia
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23189603-29277,00.html

Protesters picket Scientology
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,23189665-5006301,00.html

Anons plan `polite' church protest
http://www.thestar.com/News/GTA/article/302118

Scientology Protests Kick-Off Around the World
http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/4687

Toronto rally against Scientology
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2008/02/10/4838344-sun.html

I'm impressed. Well done anon.

[MattyBlade]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Scientologists

here's a list of the cultists.

jason lee is a cultist =(
doug e fresh is a cultist =(

why so many people i used to respect WHY!?

[Berner]

Anonymous prepare for Scientology 'raids'
http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,25642,23189971-5014239,00.html

Scientology protests begin in Australia
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23189603-29277,00.html

Protesters picket Scientology
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,23189665-5006301,00.html

Anons plan `polite' church protest
http://www.thestar.com/News/GTA/article/302118

Scientology Protests Kick-Off Around the World
http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/4687

Toronto rally against Scientology
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2008/02/10/4838344-sun.html

I'm impressed. Well done anon.

Apparently they have up to 18 more months of other stuff planned.

[Otherside]

This is kind of exciting to think about, really :)

[guitrguy]

I love how people try to defend Scientology in some comments to those articles.

[Knifeboy]

I don't love that... At all

And this is ****ing epic btw

[McP3000]

This makes me happy

[irishslappop]

Cool that they actually did something. But the Guy Faux masks are a bit....dumb.

[McP3000]

Cool that they actually did something. But the Guy Faux masks are a bit....dumb.
They're the best part

i also think its hilarious when they are in those suits and fake afros

POOLS CLOSED

[guitrguy]

Cool that they actually did something. But the Guy Faux masks are a bit....dumb.

Its a reference to the epic fail guy

[Otherside]

And Guy Faux's attempt at parliament was an epic fail, so yeah

[guitrguy]

I thought it was Fawkes

[Otherside]

yeah probably

[Aaron]

Awesome. I hate cults. The Bretheren are f'ed too.

[1338 h4x0r]

Its a reference to the epic fail guy

Perhaps even the emo epic fail guy, xEpicFailGuyx :lol:

[DrumIntoTheNight]

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g63/gordon77uk/800px-AnonymousLondonPanorama1.jpg

[beso negro]

I don't get how Scientology is worse than any other religion.

[Mister_Che]

Because it's a more of a business than a religion. Have you read anything about their practices?

[Meatplow]

has anything happened?

[1338 h4x0r]

Because it's a more of a business than a religion. Have you read anything about their practices?

What about the Catholic Church™?

[Smokey D]

The Catholic Church, while incredibly wealthy, doesn't sell salvation. Not these days.

[1338 h4x0r]

The Catholic Church, while incredibly wealthy, doesn't sell salvation. Not these days.

Point taken. :)

[guitrguy]

What about the Catholic Church™?

That ended with the counter reformation.

[McP3000]

Yeah, any comparison between Scientology and any other modern religion is pretty much inane, and uninformed bigotry.

Not to mention Scientology is based on a bad Sci-Fi novel and not a couple thousand years of history.

[chronopops]

apparently 200 anons protested outside a scientology church in seattle today.
gg beck.

[McP3000]

apparently 200 anons protested outside a scientology church in seattle today.
gg beck.
Anon delivers once more

the power of the INTERNETZ

[beso negro]

i don't think any of us know enough about Scientology to give a meaningful argument.

If some people choose to follow this religion why do i care? How are these people worse than Christians?

[Mister_Che]

Beginning in the 1970s, the church began infiltrating the IRS in order to grant a tax exempt status to the Church of Scientology. They were denied the status in 1967.

In order to advance in the church, a heavy investment is required. Not just financially either. Members are told not to associate with family who have not attained a similar level, to the point where even their families are ostracized.

It's not their beliefs that irk me, its their methods.

[silicon71]

I didn't know there were so many /b/rothers on these forums.

[Charizard]

I don't see what the big deal is. The Church of Scientology is really no different than any other church when you think about it.
false

Also, they its not like they are taking over the world. They don't really have that many members. They just get a lot of coverage because of a few select celebrities.
true, but it is still a cult that needs to be stopped, because theyre NOT a real religion

This anonymous group is probably just a bunch of bored, sub par computer hackers who do this when there WoW servers are slow.

epic fail

[je suis un beau chapeau]

anyone that defends scientology hasnt put in even two minutes of research into what anonymous is protesting

[Charizard]

people are having trouble taking it seriously because of failchan and spider expert *** 7chan

[beso negro]

Beginning in the 1970s, the church began infiltrating the IRS in order to grant a tax exempt status to the Church of Scientology. They were denied the status in 1967.

In order to advance in the church, a heavy investment is required. Not just financially either. Members are told not to associate with family who have not attained a similar level, to the point where even their families are ostracized.

again why would i care? it's their choice.

the tax except status thing is a non issue with me because im for abolishing the IRS anyways. if Scientology found a way to beat the system good for them.

and tbh i found the anon to be hilarious. im not trying to defend Scientology.

[McP3000]

again why would i care? it's their choice.

the tax except status thing is a non issue with me because im for abolishing the IRS anyways. if Scientology found a way to beat the system good for them.

and tbh i found the anon to be hilarious. im not trying to defend Scientology.
You're confusing legal action with social action

[PerpetualBurn]

again why would i care?


Because they're systematically exploiting people.

[McP3000]

Because they're systematically exploiting people.
Eh, i agree

but at the same time anyone that falls for their bullshit deserves all the pain associated with that faggity cult

[Mister_Che]

the tax except status thing is a non issue with me because im for abolishing the IRS anyways. if Scientology found a way to beat the system good for them.

This isn't them "beating the system," this is them taking over a government position for private financial gain after it had been revoked.

You're not defending Scientology, but you are defending the actions of the church, which among others, are unacceptable.

[McP3000]

This isn't them "beating the system," this is them taking over a government position for private financial gain after it had been revoked.

You're not defending Scientology, but you are defending the actions of the church, which among others, are unacceptable.
yeah

the entire church has been raised on illegal and immoral actions

pretty much all other religions begin moral and then turn bad, this one started bad

[PerpetualBurn]

Eh, i agree

but at the same time anyone that falls for their bullshit deserves all the pain associated with that faggity cult

Much as I'm tempted to agree with you, the type of people that get suckered in by such cults aren't always in a rational state of mind. And even then, it's how difficult the cult makes it for people to leave once they are in.

I'm unwilling to believe that anyone, no matter how stupid, deserves the treatment that the Church of Scientology has been known to show to its members.

[McP3000]

Much as I'm tempted to agree with you, the type of people that get suckered in by such cults aren't always in a rational state of mind. And even then, it's how difficult the cult makes it for people to leave once they are in.

I'm unwilling to believe that anyone, no matter how stupid, deserves the treatment that the Church of Scientology has been known to show to its members.
How difficult is it to get out of this cult? I've heard mixed arguments...

[PerpetualBurn]

When they've taken all the money you have, and isolate you from your family and friends, very.

[Knifeboy]

There's a couple of stories of people trying to flee the church of scientology, and then winding up dead 4-5 states away

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

How difficult is it to get out of this cult? I've heard mixed arguments...
depends what level of involvement you are in

lower levels- if you are intelligent and harbor healthy skepticism theyll tell you to make up your own mind, theyd prefer to not to discuss points of contention and just focus on recruiting more people

higher - at this point youve signed legal agreements letting them hold you against your will for months

[McP3000]

There's a couple of stories of people trying to flee the church of scientology, and then winding up dead 4-5 states away
Holy shi+

depends what level of involvement you are in

lower levels- if you are intelligent and harbor healthy skepticism theyll tell you to make up your own mind, theyd prefer to not to discuss points of contention and just focus on recruiting more people

higher - at this point youve signed legal agreements letting them hold you against your will for months
Legal agreements holding you against your own will?

cult city...

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

its not a cult because i believe in it! its not a cult because i believe in it! its not a cult because i believe in it!

[je suis un beau chapeau]

anonymous are a bunch of bigoted cyberterrorists

[beso negro]

When they've taken all the money you have, and isolate you from your family and friends, very.

seems like a lie to me. Beck and other celebs seem fine. Maybe it only applies to ordinary people.

There's a couple of stories of people trying to flee the church of scientology, and then winding up dead 4-5 states away

lol even if that was true it wouldn't bother me.

[PerpetualBurn]

seems like a lie to me. Beck and other celebs seem fine. Maybe it only applies to ordinary people.


It applies to those that can't pay the $200,000 it takes to reach OT-3 or whatever.

[wartomods]

I don't see what the big deal is. The Church of Scientology is really no different than any other church when you think about it. Also, they its not like they are taking over the world. They don't really have that many members. They just get a lot of coverage because of a few select celebrities. This anonymous group is probably just a bunch of bored, sub par computer hackers who do this when there WoW servers are slow.

That is bull ****, wow servers never lag

[Berner]

seems like a lie to me. Beck and other celebs seem fine. Maybe it only applies to ordinary people. If you were the Co$ would you treat high profile members like garbage? These are the kind of people that would make a point of letting everyone know what was really going on. They kiss the celebrities asses and call it candy because it makes them look good then.



lol even if that was true it wouldn't bother me.

Sciplant?

[thirdeyeblindislit]

Everybody knows that the only reason that $cientology exists is because L Ron needed to get the IRS off his back so he created the church of dianetics. The only reason that Scientology is considered a religion is because the IRS says it is. As far as I know, the United States is one of the only countries to accept Scientology as a religion and not something else...like a cult..... If you ask me, it may actually be the government's fault for allowing such a practice to exist.


My opinion is it's now growing more than ever due to the popularity of it among Hollywood celebrities.
I'm very open to other religions, but I have to say that I don't consider this a religion.

[Shred Danson]

anonymous are a bunch of bigoted cyberterrorists

You obvioulsy know nothing about anonymous.


seems like a lie to me. Beck and other celebs seem fine. Maybe it only applies to ordinary people.

have you ever seen any interviews with Tom Cruise or Beck? They're both bat-**** insane.

[Otherside]

Yeah, but at least beck has some good albums.