Cloned animals goods to be sold as food, awesome!

[TojesDolan]

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/29/business/29fda.html

So, goodbye problems with overpopulation

right

actually i'm kidding in case you can't detect sarcasm

[Danger Bird]

who cares why is this bad

Mr. Mendelson and other consumer representatives argue that the science backing the F.D.A.’s decision is shaky and that consumer surveys show that most people are opposed to cloning animals, let alone eating them. Some also said that cloning causes harm to the animals involved and could pave the way for human cloning.
If that's the best the opposition can come up with I say send in the clones

[TojesDolan]

it isn't, just thought it would bring some moral arguments about it, idk

besides, it's not like there are enough cows for everyone

especially africans

[Against Miik!]

Actually I am predicting a "I Am Legend" type scenario with this. Like scientists come out and there all like OMG we are saving the world nobody goes hungry! and then a few years later they are like oops we made a mistake but its too late so you are all dead.

Common sense tells me that cloned organisms are made out of the same stuff as regular ones, but it still seems super shady, and I rather not eat them.

edit: Its not like Africa would get this food anyways.

[Danger Bird]

That's because you're being illogical and juvenile.

[TojesDolan]

Well, if the organisms are being cloned it's supposed to be the same as it's copied organism, so probably no big issue, especially considering things must be stable after like, 10 years of research.

Besides, it's not as f‪ucked up as using clembuterol on farm animals to make them fatter; As long as they don't try something idiotic like cloning hyper-fast-growing specimens I think things will be alright.

Damn geneticists.

[Against Miik!]

That's because you're being illogical and juvenile.

Why would I eat a cloned animal when I can be awesome and shoot my own. That way, I don't get all the bad stuff that actually is put into meat sold in stores.

I don't though.

[Det_Nosnip]

Yeah...I'm gonna go ahead and NOT base my political beliefs on a hollywood movie. :p

I'm not opposed to this, although I'm also not entirely sure what the benefit would be...:confused: Cloned animals still need to be grown and birthed...does it really save that much time to skip the copulation?

[TojesDolan]

works the same as plants, ted: you get softer-meated, stronger-built, faster-growing animals, or get a certain breed of an animal without worrying about a horny bull f‪ucking around with his ladies

[McP3000]

works the same as plants, ted: you get softer-meated, stronger-built, faster-growing animals, or get a certain breed of an animal without worrying about a horny bull f‪ucking around with his ladies
Dude...

i love cow porn :(

That's because you're being illogical and juvenile.
I hope you're talking about the I Am Legend part...not the part where Africans wont get their food
There's enough food for them now...its just that they wont get it because they have oppressive governments, and they cant pay for it.

[beso negro]

most food is GMO these days anyway so why not. ill be at the organic market anywho.

[McP3000]

most food is GMO these days anyway so why not. ill be at the organic market anywho.
That reminds me

I hate whole foods

[Permanent Solution]

whole foods is overpriced organic food. there are better retailers

[McP3000]

whole foods is overpriced organic food. there are better retailers
Not to mention they lie on how "healthy" and "organic" their food is.
But that's for a different day.

[Bordello]

Most of the cloned animal goods will be from the offspring of the clones.

[McP3000]

Most of the cloned animal goods will be from the offspring of the clones.
irony is ironic

[r1mbaud]

it's redundant not ironic.

[VomitStainedCretin]

So no more fatalities resulting from attempts to collect bull semen then...

[Amit]

Some also said that cloning causes harm to the animals involved

lol wut

[Det_Nosnip]

works the same as plants, ted: you get softer-meated, stronger-built, faster-growing animals, or get a certain breed of an animal without worrying about a horny bull f‪ucking around with his ladies

Well, that's cool...but what about the whole feeding starving African children thing? I'm sure they don't give a crap whether the meat is tender or not.

[McP3000]

Well, that's cool...but what about the whole feeding starving African children thing? I'm sure they don't give a crap whether the meat is tender or not.
I dont think they'll get the meat rather its cloned or not

[Futue te Ipsum]

Half of the people arguing about this wont even know what a telomere is, let alone the more important details of the ethical arguments.

I don't see this feeding any africans any time soon, though. Surprisingly it's cheaper to get a hillbilly to launch a bull into a cow than it is for the process to begin in a lab. Cloned animals are incredibly expensive.

What it will do is pave the way for such things as hormones in milk to help g.disease sufferers.

[IDEA]

I dont think they'll get the meat rather its cloned or not

Of course not. Meat is only for us civilised people.

[Danger Bird]

I hope you're talking about the I Am Legend part...not the part where Africans wont get their food

I meant this

"Common sense tells me that cloned organisms are made out of the same stuff as regular ones, but it still seems super shady, and I rather not eat them."

[Amit]

yeah that's why common sense sucks so much

educated rational sense pwns it hard

[uncus_my_son]

I meant this

"Common sense tells me that cloned organisms are made out of the same stuff as regular ones, but it still seems super shady, and I rather not eat them."

not all of us want our food to be some crazy science experiment
a cloned animal is not a natural animal and you can eat that shi all you want
more real cow for me

[CarnageFairy]

Common sense is, well, common.

Actually, cloning isn’t new at all. In fact, we eat clones all the time, in the form of bananas and grafted fruits. We’ve been cloning plants for decades, except that we refer to it as “vegetative propagation.” It takes about 30 years to breed a banana from seed, so, to speed the process of getting fruit to market, most bananas, potatoes, apples, grapes, pears, and peaches are clones.

http://www.fda.gov/cvm/CloningRA_Myths.htm

Sorta comparing apples to....cows here but I think ya'llz get the picture.

[Elektrobank]

Humans can play god now.

cool

[Phalanx]

tbh, the more sci-fi the western world gets, the better

[VomitStainedCretin]

tbh, the more sci-fi the western world gets, the betterI can't wait for the day when everyone has a microchip in their brain monitoring subversive thoughts and the government is a sentient and ultra-intelligent computer who is also worshipped as a god.

[Bordello]

It gets me off.

[CatfishJew]

Besides, it's not as f‪ucked up as using clembuterol on farm animals to make them fatter;

i think it's called clenbuterol. and if you feed it to animals it shouldn't fatten them up. clenbuterol is a weight loss pill.

edit:
here's an interesting article about pork and clenbuterol.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=060919065258.qtzm4eom&show_article=1

[Independent_CA]

If only they could clone oil...

[McP3000]

If only they could clone oil...

lol waht

[The_Berzerker]

If only they could make more oil from nothing he said

[TojesDolan]

i think it's called clenbuterol. and if you feed it to animals it shouldn't fatten them up. clenbuterol is a weight loss pill.

edit:
here's an interesting article about pork and clenbuterol.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=060919065258.qtzm4eom&show_article=1
I've read that and the point is, clenbuterol (forgive the spelling error) is used in animals to gain fat quicker.

It is also a non-steroidal anabolic and metabolism accelerator, through a mechanism not well understood. Its ability to induce weight loss and a greater proportion of muscle to fat makes its illegal use in livestock popular.

so basically, it makes them bigger in a shorter time

[Futue te Ipsum]

By the looks of that, it appears as though its use is to build up muscle on the animals.

[hethamulburton]

Well... hmm... I don't know, if you were Hindu would you eat a cow if it was cloned?

I'd eat them if there were shown to be no harmful side effects. I mean, it would also depend on the cloning type-- not that sci- fi laser scan and... meat-- but if it was just an animal raised off of the DNA of a living creature, it'd be just another animal.

[Amit]

i'm hindu and i would a cow if it was cloned or even if it wasn't cloned just SHOW ME WHERE DA BEEF AT nomnomnom

[McP3000]

If only they could make more oil from nothing he said
You can't clone oil...its not alive

lol waht

[-Obscurity-]

Hey maybe they can just inject Zoloft, Lipitor, and Lunestra straight into the cloned meat so that we can all be FDA approved as well.

[CarnageFairy]

You can't clone oil...its not alive

lol waht

Well now you're just being difficult...:rolleyes:

But as far as "cloning" oil goes, what a horrible thing that would be. A limitless supply of oil...the ozone would be gone in a month...I can just see it now...



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[ashman]

Well now you're just being difficult...:rolleyes:

But as far as "cloning" oil goes, what a horrible thing that would be. A limitless supply of oil...the ozone would be gone in a month...I can just see it now...



NEW! Hummer H4 with 24cyl 18 liter engine! 1000 Horsepower!
Why? BECAUSE WE ****ING CAN!!!!!

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Place 1 fish between 2 bricks and leave in Microwave oven for 2 hours...voila :thumb:

[Chrizzle fo' Shizzle]

Ashmans easy to make home made Crude:

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Seriously, I don't see how somebody can have a problem with this. Organic food is a horrible trend

[i am the robots]

cool, now we can make more animals to kill ruthlessly!

[1338 h4x0r]

It would be better if the cloned animals were bred to exhibit some rude intelligence so that they could operate the slaughterhouses and packing facilities on their own.

[VomitStainedCretin]

It would be better if the cloned animals were bred to exhibit some rude intelligence so that they could operate the slaughterhouses and packing facilities on their own.Naah, it'd be better if they were genetically altered so they were born pre-natally formed as steaks/mince/chops etc and the afterbirth was packaging.

[McP3000]

It would be better if the cloned animals were bred to exhibit some rude intelligence so that they could operate the slaughterhouses and packing facilities on their own.
If they could operate machinery they would be smart enough to notice that they are killing their own species en masse.
They would revolt.

[1338 h4x0r]

Naah, it'd be better if they were genetically altered so they were born pre-natally formed as steaks/mince/chops etc and the afterbirth was packaging.

HYDROPONIC MEAT LOL