voting for the first time....

[mattspurplepen]

So i don't know who i'm going to vote for, i've researched some candidates but haven't found one I really support. Right now i'm leaning towards Obama. A lot of people like Ron Paul for some reason but i wouldn't support him due to a) He doesn't believe in evolution b) pro-life c) has a whack foreign policy.

If you have any info you can share with me about whether to vote for the three main democrats or whatever that'd be cool.

I'm thinking i would much rather see someone else as president but most of the democrats will be somewhat better than any republicans running.

This woman seems like an ideal candidate but there isn't much hope for her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03cOM9r51Nw&feature=related

[Reaganista]

why does it matter

[mattspurplepen]

oh voting for that woman even though she doesnt have a chance? i dont know probably my parents influence but i might vote green next election. and voting doesnt seem to matter that much but i'm just giving the respect i can to the system.

[monkeysonmars.]

pretty much ignore everything raeganista has to say

[Reaganista]

why does it matter who he votes for

[monkeysonmars.]

it's his right and he's chosen to exercise it, why does it matter what the reason is? (probably a never ending debate, let's not go there?)

[gregulus]

Ron Paul has one of the better stances on foreign policy, to be honest. It's everything else that is absurd.

[Reaganista]

it's his right and he's chosen to exercise it, why does it matter what the reason is? (probably a never ending debate, let's not go there?)

because he could make better use of his time by doing literally anything else

[Valhall]

Don't vote, tbh.

[gregulus]

Don't vote, tbh.

him voting would probably yield better results than you voting. no offense.

[Reaganista]

actually there would be no result for either

[Valhall]

him voting would probably yield better results than you voting. no offense.

Nobody voting at all would bring about more change, tbh.

[monkeysonmars.]

actually there would be no result for either

if you're saying one person doesn't have to vote then that fine. but you can't say people shouldn't vote because that would imply it's ok for nobody to vote.

[Amit]

exactly

so don't vote

[Reaganista]

if you're saying one person doesn't have to vote then that fine. but you can't say people shouldn't vote because that would imply it's ok for nobody to vote.

well some people are going to vote regardless but i dont think it would really matter if nobody voted

[monkeysonmars.]

well some people are going to vote regardless but i dont think it would really matter if nobody voted

because...

[Knifeboy]

why does it matter

because voting is slightly entertaining, kinda like sports

[Reaganista]

because...
go on
because voting is slightly entertaining, kinda like sports
well i guess if you like it then you could vote for fun but that's pretty weird

[monkeysonmars.]

go on



sorry? you were making the point that nobody needs to vote.

[Knifeboy]

I read in the paper once that a significant amount of the people who vote (10-20 %), vote on who they think will win, just because they like feeling like part of the winning team
kinda like supporting a sports team that you think is the best

[Reaganista]

sorry? you were making the point that nobody needs to vote.

ya i know and then you started a sentence and just kind of trailed off

[monkeysonmars.]

i was just looking for an explanation.

[Reaganista]

wats to explain

[monkeysonmars.]

pretty much ignore everything raeganista has to say

why do people never take their own advice?

[Reaganista]

people never take their own advice because im pretty annoying
is that enough explanation

[McP3000]

people never take their own advice because im pretty annoying
is that enough explanation
hear hear

[rockinbass17]

I remember the evolution question being posed at one of the GOP debates and three of the candidates denying it...I don't remember Paul being among them...

Edit: It was Huckabee, Tancredo, and Brownback

[Reaganista]

evolution?
that's just a theory

[Milestogo05]

when I vote...

its going to Ralph Nader

[spitfirejunky]

Paul did deny evolution a while back, I'm not sure if he's still pandering to the idiot public though.

[Against Miik!]

Well its not like he is a creationist, so its not a big deal.

But tway is right, even though he won't tell you why. Voting is dumb. It doesn't matter how many people vote. The system is f'd up anyways. Theres been massive rumors about of fraud in New Hampshire already. Basically, in every major election from I guess 2000/2004 on, there will be a front runner picked by the media/elites, election fraud to guarantee their win, and then once the general election comes, it doesn't really matter who wins since the parties are the same anyways, because the parties only differ on menial issues. Look at Ron Paul. He's basically a third party candidate at this point. You see signs of support everywhere throughout the country. New Hampshire is even a pretty freedom oriented state. This isn't about whether you agree with Paul or Kucinich or anything. Its just proof that nothing but an establishment candidate will ever win, and there is nothing we can do about it.

[mattspurplepen]

yeah its very unfortunate. i guess i don't really care but voting doesn't take much out of me haha so i'll do it just for fun because the primary **** just came in the mail anyways

[MAthiAS]

Ya dude don't vote huge waste of time. Electing a new oppressor every 4 years just so they can say "Look, democracy!" is so old.

[Iskandar]

Oppressor.

[McP3000]

Ya dude don't vote huge waste of time. Electing a new oppressor every 4 years just so they can say "Look, democracy!" is so old.
Oppressor?

You make me laugh.

Ha Ha Ho Ha

[spitfirejunky]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow's_impossibility_theorem

We wish to prove that any social choice system respecting unrestricted domain (U), the Weak Pareto Principle (WP), and independence of irrelevant alternatives (IIA) is a dictatorship.