my beginner lessons - no kit needed (videos inside)

[NUTHA JASON]

here are a series of right from the start lessons i've put on my site. the real drumming basics. probably not needed by anyone here on this forum but please show them to your mates so they can learn.

http://jasonhorsler.tripod.com/id91.html

let me know what you think.

j

[The Mites]

let me know what you think.

Ok.

I think: You are spamming.

[Ellx]

I highly doubt anybody in d&p found this interesting, no offense.

[NUTHA JASON]

yes its for beginner drummers. i'm sure this is the right place for it.

j

ps: spam is selling. i'm not selling but freely offering.

[The Mites]

P.S. You're plugging your own website. That is spam.

EDIT: And come on mate, you call yourself a teacher and you're intending to introduce complete beginners to drum tablature which is unconventional and a pretty big waste of time, and also (unknowingly to the consumer i.e the beginner drummer) a waste of his/her money so conclusively not only is this spam, it is also a scam.

[NUTHA JASON]

no it is not spam. but that is a matter of opinion. waste what money BTW. i'm not selling anything.

also see the links at the bottom of the page? one goes to the part of my site that has how to read drum music, the other goes to the part that has these beats written up.

i'm an excellent drum teacher with a proven track record and qualifications. i know for a fact that simple tab like this is a good first start. its good teaching practice not to overload a pupil with detail when a new concept is introduced. my only aim is to get someone playing drums here. music manuscript is very intimidating to people who don't know it.

j

[The Mites]

i'm an excellent drum teacher

Self-proclamation. For more examples of this, see your username's subtitle "PRO DRUMMER AND TEACHER".

and qualifications

Oh of course. Last professional audition I attended, the first thing I was asked to present were my qualifications.

Notice my use of sarcasm just now.

i know for a fact that simple tab like this is a good first start.

Can you submit evidence to support this "fact"? Or does your self-proclaimed professionalism justify that your opinion equates to fact?

music manuscript is very intimidating to people who don't know it.

As is three-way coordination, and yet you don't hesitate to teach that.

[lmldrummer]

pwnd

[NUTHA JASON]

As is three-way coordination, and yet you don't hesitate to teach that.

yes. one thing at a time. reading later.

but your beligerance is misplaced. Too bad. other people like my free lessons and i owe you nothing so i want indulge in further debate with you.

good day sir.

j

[Vannaroth]

Wow you guys can be real f‪ucking assholes sometimes. No wonder this forum is slowly dying.

[Retarded Chipple]

^^^123

[NUTHA JASON]

Wow you guys can be real f‪ucking spatulas sometimes. No wonder this forum is slowly dying.

the best thing is to ignore nastiness and just keep adding value.

j

[axewarrior20]

Many friends and I agree that sheet music is much more helpful than tabs.

This is an account of many other drummers I know that started out the same as me trying to teach themselves with tabs and ending up taking lessons by someone who taught us sheet music.

Tabs are alright if you don't have the resources to make sheet music, but sheet music is obviously a step-up from tabs.

[Vannaroth]

Anyone who feels the need to argue about sheet music vs tabs after viewing these clips has totally missed the point.

[NUTHA JASON]

thanks van.

i agree axe but, as i said before this is a lesson for non musicians. i wanted the idea to be immediately apparent without having them intimidated by crotchets and quavers. and once again at the end of the lesson i post a link to drum reading lessons for those who want to go further. the co-ordination of these few beats is enough to stomach without having to first go learn the basics of reading music.

j

[Sharkey Boy]

what ever happened to christmas cheer eh!??!

coman santa is coming tomorow! :D

[NUTHA JASON]

yes. hopefully beneath many trees everywhere there are drum related goodies.

j

[statdat]

i thought they were good lessons. although i would encourage students starting out to do these lessons on the kit right away. Just to keep them interested :]

[NUTHA JASON]

absolutely (and thanks BTW). nothing replaces real sticks on real nylon skins. i think that a lot of people are scared of learning the drums, not wanting to splash out on a kit. I'm hoping these drumless lessons can convince them that they do have the co-ordination and that its not so hard to learn drumming.
in the first vid i encourage them to play the beats on a mate's kit.

j

ps: please share the video link with all your mates. happy xmas all.

[Retarded Chipple]

real nylon skins


Oxymoron...?

[NUTHA JASON]

yep, fresh from the freezer.

j

[Carn]

regarding no kit / beginner lessons; I had to play on a pad / snare for a good 5 months when I started out. sheddin!

[MatthewMeredith]

yep, fresh from the freezer.

j

Ahhhhh hahhahahaha!

I didn't watch your video, but from what other people are saying, I think it'd be something that I'll disagree with, but MAN that was an awesome line!

:chug:

[NUTHA JASON]

thanks it was honestly stolen from the commedian ghallger the maddest.

watch the vids mate. make me a youtube star like jeff indyke.

j

[Obelisk]

After a good laugh, I actually went and checked out the lessons - and offer critique.

Have the camera placed above you so that your right hand is on the right side of the screen - or record yourself in a mirror - it's easier for people to understand when they are looking at the same perspective as you.

When teaching beginners the basic rock beat - I always found that starting with kick and snare alternating was more effective than the hats and kick together - when you tell a student that all they need to do now is hit the hats everytime hit a drum, it seems to translate better.

I'm also big on teaching from proper written music than "tabs", first lessons with a new student are all about learning 4/4 time, bars and whole notes to eigths - then where they are placed on a staff - once that is learned you can move to a more tab-style nomenclature.

[The Mites]

real nylon skins.

...

Mylar, not nylon.

Heads, not skins.

Thankyou.

[NUTHA JASON]

lol. which country are you in?

[The Mites]

Right now I happen to be in Australia. My permanent residence is in England however.

[~(lunch_box)~]

i agree with mites, all these threads made by NUTHA JASON annoy me greatly because the only point of all of them is to promote himself and his teaching and he manages to sound incredibly cocky and I think that he has decided that he is a god of drumming.
i like modest people which jason obviously is not

quite annoying IMO

[NUTHA JASON]

too bad for you. a lot of people do appreciate the effort i'm puttng in. i get nothing out of it other than the satisfaction of sharing. stay away from my threads if you don't like them.

j

[The Mites]

lol. which country are you in?

Objection. Relevance?

[Panopticon]

i agree with mites, all these threads made by NUTHA JASON annoy me greatly because the only point of all of them is to promote himself and his teaching and he manages to sound incredibly cocky and I think that he has decided that he is a god of drumming.
i like modest people which jason obviously is not

quite annoying IMO

dude are you kidding me?

He's making lessons for people...so they can learn drums!

Get your head out of your ***...you too jezen.

[NUTHA JASON]

Objection. Relevance?

over-ruled. the region often dictates the nomenclature.

now go and look up the word synonym.

>;-)

j

ps: thanks enemy

[The Mites]

dude are you kidding me?

He's making lessons for people...so they can learn drums!

Get your head out of your ***...you too jezen.

:rolleyes: Who are you?

[Panopticon]

wow...you're a cunt.

Where's your lesson threads that you made to help drummers with some concepts they might not understand? Ohh...they don't exist? Yeah i didn't think so.

[Little Android Man]

This is the god damn BEGINNERS section holy ****.

This isn't meant to help us, this is meant to help people who want to get into drumming.

[The Mites]

over-ruled. the region often dictates the nomenclature.

now go and look up the word synonym.



What the hell are you on about?

Who are you to disregard my questioning? What gives you that authority? These questions aren't rhetorical, and the fact that you are a self-proclaimed "PRO DRUMMER AND TEACHER" is not a valid response.

Why are you talking about the region dictating the nomenclature? We aren't in the same region, and even if we were, why would we be discussing any systems of terminology for classification in a taxonomic sense? You are so unbelievably off-topic, perhaps you are insane?

Furthermore, do not patronise me; I know fine well what synonyms are and how they are used. :rolleyes:

[billdrum]

Lighten up Jezen. It's obvious that Jason puts alot of thought into his lessons, and teaching in general. He's far more organized about it than I am, and I do it for a living. And he's willing to share. Be appreciative.

Who cares if he uses different terminology than you do for some things. Please stop acting like an insecure child and open up your ears and mind. You might just learn something.

[The Mites]

Who cares if he uses different terminology than you do for some things.

Nobody, but that wasn't even the topic? I have no idea why he said that?

If this is in regard to nylon/mylar and skin/head then fair enough nobody cares if it's a skin or a head. However nylon is not the same as mylar.

[Pauly]

Don't try and discredit someone based on their knowledge of equipment.

Jason's input to this community is well above the average. Part of being a mature male is giving, sharing and helping others. If you see his threads in a negative light, then you probably have an immature mindset.

Start to appreciate when someone offers their help, whether you need it or not.

[NUTHA JASON]

thanks dudes. these days when i get flamed or similar i don't argue i just rather get weird. its more fun. the people who do appreciate a contribution are all that count to me. the rest are just fluff to me these days.

j

[El Calle Gato]

those lessons would be a HUGE benefit to my friend shawn who has been working on beats for a year and cant play a goddam thing