How About A Competition

[Spaceman Spiff]

So, we've gone a while without any competitions now, I was wondering if any of you would be interested in one.

I'm thinking more along the lines of single-round competitions because it gets too hard to organize people to put up against each other, matching up skill level and all that.

If you want to do this, things like theme can be discussed here, maybe no theme is necessary, just music. Maybe discuss if you even want to do it.

Get into it, folks.

[BenJammin]

I'm down for anything. Quite frankly, I need some motivation to write a song.

Maybe pulling off different genres? Or most tasteful use of effects? Or something?

[Az_Holl]

I might be in. i was going to try and record some stuff after xmas anyway

[HELLonWHEELS]

slap theme?

[Left Shoe]

how about, no actual playing of an instrument. just midi.

[One Groovin Clown]

I might be in, if I can find my adapter i'm totally in.

[aria]

id be interested u should add guitar forum in to get more participants

[funkyhoney]

lol

[jollygiantchris]

id be down as long as it wasn't slap theme....even though i feel that i'm good enough to throw my glove down now so to speak I'm still terrible at slapping :d course I don't care how it sounds so I never really practice it so thats probably why I'm still bad at it =x

and if we added the guitar forum then we might get a bunch of shredding retards BUT we would get a lot more entries =x

If ifs a one off contest you still should have an intermediate/beginner/advanced tier if remotely possible

[sheephead]

I'd be down for something. how's about solo bass? we've never had one!

[Phalanx]

how about, no actual playing of an instrument. just midi.

i'd actually be up for that

[exit]

just bass synth :D

[Panopticon]

i'd be interested but i've only been playing like a week.

[rh15951]

One track of bass only? Evens it out a bit amongst people without loopers/drum samples/guitars etc.

[exit]

I'ld enter but i suck to much at this point i think...

[BenJammin]

One track of bass only? Evens it out a bit amongst people without loopers/drum samples/guitars etc.

Except for those of us who are retarded without our loopers.

[naut]

no midi. just play the ****ing parts.

[Left Shoe]

One track of bass only? Evens it out a bit amongst people without loopers/drum samples/guitars etc.

its not anyones fault but yours you dont have those things.

No high c strings or low b strings please.

[Jody LeCompte]

You don't own a bass without a low b and high c phil.

I've actually been interested in a multi-instrumentalist competition. Everyone tries to create a complete song and see how it comes out.

[BenJammin]

You don't own a bass without a low b and high c phil.

I've actually been interested in a multi-instrumentalist competition. Everyone tries to create a complete song and see how it comes out.

But not everyone plays 2 or more instruments. :)

[rh15951]

its not anyones fault but yours you dont have those things.

L I don't need them so why should I buy them?

[Jody LeCompte]

Nor do all of our members play slap, solo bass, etc.

Theres never going to be a competition that puts every MXer in their environment.

[BenJammin]

Nor do all of our members play slap, solo bass, etc.

Theres never going to be a competition that puts every MXer in their environment.

Well, obviously. It might just be easier for 2 members to go head-to-head and it's up to them to decide on the particular rules for the contest. Unless that's what Spiff was getting at in the first place, and I am just a retard.

[exit]

I think he just wants a couple of players all making a song or doing something all within the same rules and then let the forummembers decide who's got the best song. Thats it. No rounds or whatever. Maybe 2 poules, one with good and one with lesser players.

[Spaceman Spiff]

You're not going to find any specialty type of competition where everyone has an equal shot at winning.

I was thinking maybe just a plain old, "Whose song do you like most?" competition, at least to start things off, to see how many people are interested and actually get in on it.

Does that sound alright, or would you rather there is a theme?

I also remember people seemed to like the ones where you write a song inspired by a picture.

[BenJammin]

You're not going to find any specialty type of competition where everyone has an equal shot at winning.

I was thinking maybe just a plain old, "Whose song do you like most?" competition, at least to start things off, to see how many people are interested and actually get in on it.

Does that sound alright, or would you rather there is a theme?

I also remember people seemed to like the ones where you write a song inspired by a picture.

I'd be down for simply just writing a song and going by preference on it. Seems like the easiest way to go about this, I think.

[Jody LeCompte]

I've got an idea for a comp..

Me and ben sit down at a table with out basses and first one too drunk to play loses.

[Akira]

I'd be down for the same reason as Ben. I need motivation to write. I have Christmas break starting tomorrow afternoon, so I can actually enter.

[Sablate McNuff]

Nor do all of our members play slap, solo bass, etc.

Theres never going to be a competition that puts every MXer in their environment.
Competition Theme: Music.


pwn3d.

[Akira]

Competition Theme: Music.


pwn3d.

Pretty sure that one would rule out Ben and Jesse.

[Sablate McNuff]

Lollerskates. Haha.

I'm down for a competition. I just hope I can eliminate all of this hiss and hum stuff that I keep getting in my recordings. I'm thinking a vocals only entry is something I'd like to do.

[exit]

maybe this will be a bit stupid idea but why not cover your favorite song and let ppl rate how good it really is. That way beginners have the chance to cover a beginner song, and be good at it and probably better players are more likely to take on more difficult songs and can mess up as good as the beginners.. just my two cents

[Starts with S ends with E]

Let's have a "Who can gross the most people out?" contest.

[exit]

Off topic: If pics are allowed i can show you my naked a s s.

[Starts with S ends with E]

Off topic: If pics are allowed i can show you my naked a s s.
I'll make a song about it in vivid detail and take the gold.

[exit]

then my *** can be seen as cover art for the single

[Akira]

maybe this will be a bit stupid idea but why not cover your favorite song and let ppl rate how good it really is. That way beginners have the chance to cover a beginner song, and be good at it and probably better players are more likely to take on more difficult songs and can mess up as good as the beginners.. just my two cents

Just the bass line would be lame, but if it was like arranging a song for just bass it could be interesting.

[Starts with S ends with E]

Let's put it this way: all "solo bass" is stupid and lame.

K, now that we have that out of the way, lets get on with it.

[naut]

I WANT TO 1V1 SADE. i h8 u

[Starts with S ends with E]

I WANT TO 1V1 SADE. i h8 u

I'll take your dumbshit texan *** out COLD.

Let's have a rap contest. I'd call it a "battle" but I'm not black so it's a rap contest.

[naut]

it'd be a stalemate.

your vox > me

my lyrics > you

[Sablate McNuff]

Or we can make it ridiculous, like:

Two tracks max. Only bass. Only the notes G and Ab are allowed on a standard-tuned 4-string bass (ERBs must only use E-G strings). Mutes are also allowed. Two minute max.

[Phalanx]

I'd really like to enter this competition but the only recording equipment I could use would be a microphone :(

[Starts with S ends with E]

it'd be a stalemate.

your vox > me

my lyrics > you

Nah, your lyrics suck too.

Naut:
"LOL IM USING BIG WORDS JUST FOR THE SAKE OF USING BIG WORDS."

Raayl:
"LOL IM USING GROSS WORDS JUST FOR THE SAKE OF USING GROSS WORDS."

I win.

[ReadyToFall]

Alright, I'm in for a competition. What do we gotta do?

[Son of Magni]

Another idea for a comp could be, best original bass riff. Kind of wide open, anyone could do something, and we'd all prob hear some interesting ideas. And it would focus on creativity, not just how well you play it.

[oak tree]

I think the idea of arranging existing songs into bass only arrangements is the best I've heard yet, the problem with these comps is that its not easy to just sit down and write something.. especially since bass guitar is not an easy instrument to write for. Because of this loads of people plan to enter but most don't actually manage to get a piece that they think is worthy of entering (or anything at all) done, this covers idea goes some way in solving that, and its also something not really done before on here.

Also in terms of looping/backing tracks etc the 'judging criteria' should make it clear that entries that use only 1 or 2 bass tracks with light effects and maybe a drum track should be scored higher than tracks with 4 bass tracks, 3 midi backings, your friend playing guitar, £1000 worth of effect and martin luther king jrs speech sampled over it should be marked lower. Not a perfect solution but again, goes some way to fixing the problem.

Personally though I think '1 single take bass only track with light processing' and perhaps an optional drum track would be a better solution.

[Yahtzee]

dude ill pwn all you in this jack off competition

[rh15951]

Personally though I think '1 single take bass only track with light processing' and perhaps an optional drum track would be a better solution.

troof

[Akira]

There are like two MXers who could make a decent single track bass song.

[oak tree]

I could, whos the other one?

[Left Shoe]

You don't own a bass without a low b and high c phil.

I've actually been interested in a multi-instrumentalist competition. Everyone tries to create a complete song and see how it comes out.

my upright.

L I don't need them so why should I buy them?

if you dont need them dont worry about other people using them. L

[Akira]

I could, whos the other one?

I'm not saying you can't, but do you have any recordings or anything? I like listening to real solo bass, but you never hear it except from a couple of the more famous bassists.
Amateurs tend to multitrack.

[oak tree]

I made a few amateurish arrangements of well known songs a while back that I played at open mic nights and stuff, but then my uni course started getting heavy and I've concentrated mainly on ensemble playing for the past couple of months while maintaining my solo techniques. I'm not great at writing original solo material but I reckon I could put together some entertaining arrangements now if I put my mind to it, I've got a lot of material to learn over christmas for my course and personal projects though so I'm not likely to work on solo material that much, if I get anything else done at any point I'll record it and post it though.

I'm big into performing and not into recording, so nothing I write can't be played by me and as much equipment than I can fit into my backpack (usually just my drum machine, a bass DI with overdrive channel and a compressor stomp box).

[Akira]

Last Christmas I took a beginner's piano book and tapped some carols on my bass. It was pretty rawk.
My bass is practically a piano anyways, lol.

[oak tree]

I'm going to learn at least one christmas song with solo bass techniques this year to impress my relatives.

[Akira]

Yeah.
I suck at trying to do solo work on a four.
I can do a fun version of Mad World though.

[British Kid]

if we're gonna do this, I think we'd get the most entries if we included at least the guitar forum and it should probably just be something like, whoever's song is best liked wins.

i think the only limitations would be something like, no more than 4 minutes long and no more than 5 tracks/instruments.

[oak tree]

I don't think the guitar forum should be included, its much easier to write solo material for guitar and there is such an abundance of it. These comps are good because its something different.

[BenJammin]

123 on no guitar. We don't need their participation in this. We will either have enough people, or it'll flop entirely. If guitar did it with us, we would have too many people, for sure.

I'm not saying you can't, but do you have any recordings or anything? I like listening to real solo bass, but you never hear it except from a couple of the more famous bassists.
Amateurs tend to multitrack.

Man, I don't get where you can come off as saying multi-tracking is amateur/real solo bass is one track. To some extent, I actually take a bit of offense to that. I feel that what I do is very much 'real' solo bass, and I have written only a very small number of compositions that are only one track of bass. I think you would find a number of other bassists who would share my sentiments.

Try telling Steve Lawson that he's not a solo bassist. Manring and Seth Horan use loopers, too. Does this now disqualify them from being real solo bassists?

I think the idea of arranging existing songs into bass only arrangements is the best I've heard yet, the problem with these comps is that its not easy to just sit down and write something.. especially since bass guitar is not an easy instrument to write for. Because of this loads of people plan to enter but most don't actually manage to get a piece that they think is worthy of entering (or anything at all) done, this covers idea goes some way in solving that, and its also something not really done before on here.

Also in terms of looping/backing tracks etc the 'judging criteria' should make it clear that entries that use only 1 or 2 bass tracks with light effects and maybe a drum track should be scored higher than tracks with 4 bass tracks, 3 midi backings, your friend playing guitar, £1000 worth of effect and martin luther king jrs speech sampled over it should be marked lower, less is more. Not a perfect solution but again, goes some way to fixing the problem.

Personally though I think '1 single take bass only track with light processing' and perhaps an optional drum track would be a better solution.

Lol. You're funny. :)

Why should additional layers, a different approach to composition, effects, etc., etc. constitute a lower 'grade'? Why does less equal more?

Furthermore, you clearly do not spend a lot of time composing for bass, because it is not a hard instrument to write for. The interesting thing about bass is that it shares the same notes as every other instrument out there. Ideas--generally speaking--to tend to work across different instruments.

On the other hand, for those who are unable to compose for bass, what makes you think they are any more adept at arranging a song written for multiple instruments and transposing those parts onto bass? I think you'll find more people able to skillfully write their own piece than effectively re-arrange someone else's.

I guess, to come full circle on this, I am still a bit hung up on your lambasting of multi-tracking, and so on. I don't see how you can possibly say a piece which is well-written using multiple tracks of bass, MIDI, additional instruments, effects, etc. is of any less value than a well-written piece using only a couple of tracks of bass and a drum track.

They're entirely different. Maybe you don't agree with that, and that's cool, but it shouldn't be placed as a general criteria for this competition. If you and your opponent want to do it like that, cool. But stop presuming that one method is superior to the other, k?

[Akira]

Ben, I didn't mean to call looping amateur, I'm sorry if that's how it sounded. I just said that you don't hear many amateurs writing single-track music.
Steve Lawson's one of the best solo bassists out there.

[TheDarkHorse]

Another idea for a comp could be, best original bass riff. Kind of wide open, anyone could do something, and we'd all prob hear some interesting ideas. And it would focus on creativity, not just how well you play it.

AGREED

if possible, lets keep this one strictly to bass. I don't like people winning just because they put together a whole musical piece with other instruments vs. a one-track bass audio work.

We could also do more of those picture themed challenges, which are interesting.

[British Kid]

AGREED

if possible, lets keep this one strictly to bass. I don't like people winning just because they put together a whole musical piece with other instruments vs. a one-track bass audio work.

We could also do more of those picture themed challenges, which are interesting.

but thats more what i have in mind right now.

if i'm going to do a comp, i want to try my hand at composing a whole song with drums, guitars, etc... not just bass.

i'm currently working on my musicianship as a whole, not just bass anymore.

[Jody LeCompte]

Akira: Thats because all you can do is tap. <3

Oak Tree: Don't play guitar much do you? Me having two more strings and a twangier tone doesn't make anything easier.

[naut]

Also in terms of looping/backing tracks etc the 'judging criteria' should make it clear that entries that use only 1 or 2 bass tracks with light effects and maybe a drum track should be scored higher than tracks with 4 bass tracks, 3 midi backings, your friend playing guitar, £1000 worth of effect and martin luther king jrs speech sampled over it should be marked lower, less is more.

who is that even directed at?

to me, within context, "less is more" equates to: "i'm incapable of composition."

[TheDarkHorse]

i'm currently working on my musicianship as a whole, not just bass anymore.
well there's a link to the audio area

I'd like for the bass forum to specifically focus on bass for at least a few challenges. I'm trying to improve in the area of bass, not music, and i would hope the bass forum would have challenges that can suit me.

[deemo]

i'd actually join if it were more of a composition thing. whoever wants in on a composition competition can join, if you'd rather do a solo bass competition, join that one.

suits the divide i think.

[blacklungfever]

I'd do a solo bass thing, but I'm not sure if I could single track. Noone's heard me play yet, might be fun to show you guys how I sound.

You guys should hear one of my friends, hes a solo bass monster. He can do the wildest things with four strings, it blows my mind. I'll see if I can get a recording of him.

[Sammy_L_D]

How about who can write the best song on acoustic guitar, that also happens to have a bassline in it?

...I just want to do well. :(

[Jody LeCompte]

Me and sam are going to have a guitar off one of these days when I actually learn to play.

[MdL]

Another idea for a comp could be, best original bass riff. Kind of wide open, anyone could do something, and we'd all prob hear some interesting ideas. And it would focus on creativity, not just how well you play it.

I like that a LOT! :chug:

[Efrim]

Pretty sure that one would rule out Ben and Jesse.

Page late but:

f u f u f u **** you.

[EADGC]

There are like two MXers who could make a decent single track bass song.

sup

to be fair I think I could name a few more than that and I am a huge fan of that style

Yeah.
I suck at trying to do solo work on a four.
I can do a fun version of Mad World though.

is that my version?


Big long post about looping and ****


Alright you're taking it the wrong way Ben. I can only speak for myself but I don't think that people who use loopers are any less of musicians/solo players.

The problem with referring to players who use loopers as solo bassists along with players who don't is that you're using a blanket term for two different styles of playing.

that said how are you supposed to distinguish between the two?

Like by your definition you and I are both solo players. Yet my songs have 1 track and yours have 3 or 4+? How are people supposed to know the difference?



anyway about the comp - do a solo 1 track comp - I'd be so down. I've never done a comp and I need motivation to write and record more music anyway so I'm all for it. Plus I'd really like to hear some other people's solo bass music.

Nothing against loopers (I love looping personally) but I think looping should be saved for a separate contest.

[oak tree]

Lol. You're funny. :)

Why should additional layers, a different approach to composition, effects, etc., etc. constitute a lower 'grade'? Why does less equal more?

Because its easier to make better sounding tracks with many layers than with just one or two. Tracks with many layers would be given a lower grade not because they're inferior, but to prevent artists who only want to use one or two from being a excluded from having a chance of winning.

Furthermore, you clearly do not spend a lot of time composing for bass, because it is not a hard instrument to write for. The interesting thing about bass is that it shares the same notes as every other instrument out there. Ideas--generally speaking--to tend to work across different instruments.

No I don't, I'm by no means a solo bassist, my time is completely taken by my university course and various non-academic music projects that I've agreed to be in. I base my statement on my own limited experience of it (I find it easier to write for piano or guitar, even though my skills at both are far inferior to my bass playing) and from hearing great bassists say that they find composing harder on bass than on any other instrument.

Oak Tree: Don't play guitar much do you? Me having two more strings and a twangier tone doesn't make anything easier.

Sorry this is incorrect, guitar is easier to play and sing with, a better register for playing unaccompanied or accompanying alone, its easier and more musical to play chords (MANY more options, voicings, fingerings etc.), easier to have more stuff going on at once (mainly due to the register and easier fingerings) a more suitable timbre for solo material, and peoples ears are just better adjusted to solo guitar than solo bass. Why do you think there are countless known and unknown solo guitarists, but very few solo bassists (and even less of those sing). It is possible to invest the time and become just as competent at writing for bass as for guitar, but there is a shallower learning curve to get started at writing for guitar and there are many more generic approaches which again make learning easier. Thats my entire point, I don't want 10 generic guitar entries for each original bass entry.

On the other hand, for those who are unable to compose for bass, what makes you think they are any more adept at arranging a song written for multiple instruments and transposing those parts onto bass? I think you'll find more people able to skillfully write their own piece than effectively re-arrange someone else's.

Again based on personal experience, I find it easier to arrange for bass than to compose and I'm no compositional rookie, I've been writing on/off for years and have had lessons in various aspects of it.


I guess, to come full circle on this, I am still a bit hung up on your lambasting of multi-tracking, and so on. I don't see how you can possibly say a piece which is well-written using multiple tracks of bass, MIDI, additional instruments, effects, etc. is of any less value than a well-written piece using only a couple of tracks of bass and a drum track.

I've got nothing wrong with it, I just don't want to see another competition where there simply no point entering if you don't multitrack, not everyone likes to write like that.

They're entirely different. Maybe you don't agree with that, and that's cool, but it shouldn't be placed as a general criteria for this competition. If you and your opponent want to do it like that, cool. But stop presuming that one method is superior to the other, k?

I never said one was, I expressed a personal preference and everything else I said was just in the interest of making both approached viable to enter with.

who is that even directed at?

to me, within context, "less is more" equates to: "i'm incapable of composition."

I added that as an afterthought that I figured kind of fit the general statement, now I realise it comes over with completely the wrong message and doesn't fit my statement at all, disregard it.

[funkyhoney]

Bitchfest, yeow!

Kick the high heels off girls!

[EADGC]

I don't want to start a bitchfest but I am going to have to say I agree with oak

I have been playing bass for years, including solo style but I still find it much easier to write on guitar and piano, and I rarely play those instruments.

[rh15951]

There are like two MXers who could make a decent single track bass song.

What like you? Of course :rolleyes:

[EADGC]

Akira you ever try any one track songs

I mean you've got the 7 string and all

I don't know about you guys but if I had a 7 I'd probably write a lot more

[sheephead]

So, 1 track bass comp? If so, I'm in.
If people don't want to enter, they can get a different comp going surely?

[Efrim]

That rules me out, since I'm straight up not interested in writing anything without noise.

Damn you, Rabi, for being so right.

[naut]

i want to have another pick-off with someone.:lol: we did that like...once. i can't remember it being done before or after joz and i.

[BenJammin]

What like you? Of course :rolleyes:

Dude, he didn't even say that.

Don't extrapolate so much.

[BenJammin]

Because its easier to make better sounding tracks with many layers than with just one or two. Tracks with many layers would be given a lower grade not because they're inferior, but to prevent artists who only want to use one or two from being a excluded from having a chance of winning.

While I agree or respectfully accept everything else you said, I am not sure I agree with this. When you start adding layers to a composition, you may fill up more space, and more sound, but you have to consider how well the different layers will mesh with each other, whether they will detract from the piece due to too much going on, etc., etc. This may just be my extremely biased experiences here, though. I find it ridiculously hard to write for less than 3 tracks of bass; it's probably my short comings as a bass player. :lol:

Trust me, I have heard a lot more **** on this forum that is multitracked than stuff done with only one or two tracks. :)

Bitchfest, yeow!

Kick the high heels off girls!

Honest to god, Ryan. stfu, k. There's no bitchfest here, so don't try and stir one up.

[Sablate McNuff]

OOoh, pick comp. Now that I have 7 strings to work with, there shall be some awesome chordage too.

[rh15951]

Dude, he didn't even say that.

Don't extrapolate so much.

He didn't need to.

Don't extrapolate so much.

[oak tree]

While I agree or respectfully accept everything else you said, I am not sure I agree with this. When you start adding layers to a composition, you may fill up more space, and more sound, but you have to consider how well the different layers will mesh with each other, whether they will detract from the piece due to too much going on, etc., etc. This may just be my extremely biased experiences here, though. I find it ridiculously hard to write for less than 3 tracks of bass; it's probably my short comings as a bass player. :lol:

Trust me, I have heard a lot more **** on this forum that is multitracked than stuff done with only one or two tracks. :)

Oh yeah, neither approach is 'easy' and compositionally multi tracking is probably harder, the reason I say that writing for one track is harder is almost entirely based on technical reasons.

We all know that good music contains a number of elements such as a melody, rhythm, harmony etc., most captivating music contains some or all of these elements at any given time. Its simply a lot easier to create music with all these elements and multiple voices etc with many tracks.. you can just lay a harmony track, rhythm track, melody track, counter melody track, bass line track and so on one at a time to create a complex piece with minimal technical demand. On the other hand with a 'one take' track you have to combine all these elements into a single performance, played by one person on an instrument not even designed for solo performance. While there may be less to think about compositionally, arranging and playing a complete piece of music on a bass guitar is no easy task.

I used way more words than I needed to get my point across, but oh well.

[Starts with S ends with E]

Oh yeah, neither approach is 'easy' and compositionally multi tracking is probably harder, the reason I say that writing for one track is harder is almost entirely based on technical reasons.

We all know that good music contains a number of elements such as a melody, rhythm, harmony etc., most captivating music contains some or all of these elements at any given time. Its simply a lot easier to create music with all these elements and multiple voices etc with many tracks.. you can just lay a harmony track, rhythm track, melody track, counter melody track, bass line track and so on one at a time to create a complex piece with minimal technical demand. On the other hand with a 'one take' track you have to combine all these elements into a single performance, played by one person on an instrument not even designed for solo performance. While there may be less to think about compositionally, arranging and playing a complete piece of music on a bass guitar is no easy task.

I used way more words than I needed to get my point across, but oh well.

Are you retarded?

Here's what I get from you:

"Hey guys, I'm too ****in' stupid to learn how to compose ****, can I just play a sweet awesome slap bass line from an RHCP song and win plz!?!?"


Shut the **** up with your paragraphs of ****in' bullshit and learn to write a song. ****in' toolbox.

[oak tree]

Are you retarded?

Here's what I get from you:

"Hey guys, I'm too ****in' stupid to learn how to compose ****, can I just play a sweet awesome slap bass line from an RHCP song and win plz!?!?"


Shut the **** up with your paragraphs of ****in' bullshit and learn to write a song. ****in' toolbox.

you are an idiot who entertains himself by starting arguments on the internet, and who couldn't have been further from the truth

argument over

[Jody LeCompte]

Ok, tell you what oak_tree.

Me and you will have a two person comp. I want your entry to have one track of guitar and Ill have one track of bass, just to make it easier.

[oak tree]

I don't have my own guitar, or any means of recording myself play for the next 3 weeks or so while I'm away for christmas.

If you want to I'll do this 2 person comp thing after that, but I'll have to do it on piano or bass.

[Jody LeCompte]

I assumed you played guitar. You spoke so confidently about the ease of use.

Ok, bass vs bass it is then.

[Trevo]

Why don't we just have leagues again?

[oak tree]

I play my friends guitars at band practices.

We've got plenty of time to work on some good stuff, so this should be a decent battle.
One track of bass, all original material. You want to allow 'live' drum machine sequences or effects triggered in real time?

[Jody LeCompte]

Drums and effects are both fine, although I dont use effects so all I will have is drums programmed on my synth and my dry bass.

[oak tree]

Nothing that can't be performed live though, everything has to be set in advance and triggered in real time during a one take recording.

[BenJammin]

Why don't we just have leagues again?

lol

[Jody LeCompte]

Fair enough.

Just say when.

[Starts with S ends with E]

you are an idiot who entertains himself by starting arguments on the internet, and who couldn't have been further from the truth

argument over

Again I ask, are you retarded?

"GUYS GUYS, YOU GOTTA REMEMBER IF YOU USE LOTS OF TRACKS THAT MEANS YOU ARE A BAD BASSIST CAUSE YOU COULDNT DO IT IN ONE LOL"

So.

Again I ask.

Are you ****in' retarded?

It's all a moot point anyways, because I can smell your shitty *** muddy "solo bass track" from here.

And I'm not trying to start a fight. But you are one long-winded stupid *** mother ****er that needs to shut his ****in' mouth. Forgive me/

[EADGC]

Again I ask, are you retarded?

"GUYS GUYS, YOU GOTTA REMEMBER IF YOU USE LOTS OF TRACKS THAT MEANS YOU ARE A BAD BASSIST CAUSE YOU COULDNT DO IT IN ONE LOL"

So.

Again I ask.

Are you ****in' retarded?

It's all a moot point anyways, because I can smell your shitty *** muddy "solo bass track" from here.

And I'm not trying to start a fight. But you are one long-winded stupid *** mother ****er that needs to shut his ****in' mouth. Forgive me/


sup sade how's hating life


and don't hate on solo bass just because you can't do it :(

[Akira]

So, I have a good idea: less arguing over stupid stuff, more actually coming up with a theme.

[EADGC]

So, I have a good idea: less arguing over stupid stuff, more actually coming up with a theme.

rite rite I say we have a poll

[TheDarkHorse]

1 track solo bass it is. Who wants to *Officially* start the thread?

[EADGC]

1 track solo bass it is. Who wants to *Officially* start the thread?

I'd be down but how does this work, would I get to pick the rules?

[Akira]

Wait for Spiff since he's a mod.

[EADGC]

Alrighty

[Efrim]

Maybe Ben and I should have a noise-making contest.

[Akira]

No matter who wins, we all lose.

[Efrim]

No matter who wins, we all lose.

The more years I take off everyone's hearing, the better.

I'd like to have a noise contest, I don't bother posting my purely noise tracks.

[Trevo]

Pure noise, eh?

I'd be in for some of that. Plus I use effects on my computer...extra noise.

[Efrim]

Pure noise, eh?

I'd be in for some of that. Plus I use effects on my computer...extra noise.

So...cheating?

[EADGC]

No matter who wins, we all lose.

I laughed

[Trevo]

So...cheating?

There is no cheating.

[Efrim]

There is no cheating.

I was worried if I didn't put "lawl" after my post that you would think I was serious.
I'm so relieved.
I'll see if Ben is interested.

[BenJammin]

Maybe Ben and I should have a noise-making contest.

lol. Deal.

[Efrim]

What kind of criteria are we talking about? Harshest? Or neatest? Most likely to kill small animals?

[Trevo]

Most likely to kill small animals?

[Efrim]

I guess that's the same as harshest...

[EADGC]

How are these rules for solo contest:


- one track of bass only (no overdubs)
- no looping
- other effects are allowed
- can be any amount of strings
- any tuning
- post-production is allowed
- made sure that you piss off Sade with your composition/ego that comes with the territory of being a solo player


eh eh

[Akira]

Yeah, something like that.

I still think this is going to be kind of lol because I don't think many MXers do solo track bass, but it should be fun.

[EADGC]

Yeah, something like that.

I still think this is going to be kind of lol because I don't think many MXers do solo track bass, but it should be fun.


One reason I want to have it (besides wanting to hear what other people on here can come up with) is that many people just assume it's something they'd never be able to do but they don't even bother to try

that and the style practically forces you to be creative with tunings, techniques, effects etc


edit: Are we going to hear any 7strings goodness from you bro?

[BenJammin]

I might give it a shot. I've only ever successfully written 2 solo compositions, so I'd like to see if I can do it. Been listening to a lot of Manring and Trip Wamsley lately, so we'll see.

[EADGC]

I might give it a shot. I've only ever successfully written 2 solo compositions, so I'd like to see if I can do it. Been listening to a lot of Manring and Trip Wamsley lately, so we'll see.


Just bust out some e-bow and you can't really go wrong

heavy reverb and you're done

[BenJammin]

Just bust out some e-bow and you can't really go wrong

heavy reverb and you're done

Yeah. I'll see what I can do. :)

[Akira]

edit: Are we going to hear any 7strings goodness from you bro?

Not impossible. I haven't tapped in a long while and if I want to use the higher register I desperately need to intonate my bass, but it could happen.

[EADGC]

Not impossible. I haven't tapped in a long while and if I want to use the higher register I desperately need to intonate my bass, but it could happen.


You don't necessarily need to do tapping

[Akira]

No. But I like tapping.

[EADGC]

No. But I like tapping.


as do I

I mean go for tapping if you want, but just keep in mind you can play any way you want

[Akira]

I am out of shape on bass, I have been playing too much guitar. I might just use my four string.

[EADGC]

added a new rule

[funkyhoney]

So when are we starting the comps?

I want to do a single track solo bass comp, whatever else is going on that's cool; because just remember, you don't have to enter if you don't like the sound of it.

But seriously, there have been some good ideas, so why don't we just have the people who have had the ideas just make the comps and take care of it. Voting will still be public though, of course.

[TheDarkHorse]

I don't care. I'd just like to make everyone feel insignificant with my bass abilities :p

[EADGC]

So when are we starting the comps?




I'm guessing whenever a mod makes the thread

or I'll run it if a mod gives me permission, whatever

[Akira]

You can go ahead and make it.

[Spaceman Spiff]

You can run it, Matt, I just wanted to see if people would do it. It's getting a fairly good response, so go ahead and make a thread for it.

[EADGC]

Alright

what should the deadline be?

how does voting work?

I've never done one of these before

[Trevo]

We should make a non-poll voting, that way everyone has to give feedback in order to vote.

[Akira]

We should make a non-poll voting, that way everyone has to give feedback in order to vote.

This.

Make it so people have to write a response to each entry in order to vote.

As for deadline, give it a couple weeks or so.

[EADGC]

Alright

no limit on contestants since we're going to need all we can get...

so no pairing up contestants, just free for all?

[Akira]

Yeah. It's infinitely less of a headache that way. When you try to do one on one it is impossible to get everyone organized and matched fairly, and it invariably fails.

[EADGC]

Yeah. It's infinitely less of a headache that way. When you try to do one on one it is impossible to get everyone organized and matched fairly, and it invariably fails.


Agreed, I was not planning on doing it any other way

I'm only expecting ... ballpark 6 people so it shouldn't be a problem

we could maybe split it into 2 groups and then have a round between the winners if we really have to

Alright so I'm going to make the signup thread right now

[Trevo]

You can make 2 groups based on skill.

[Akira]

I strongly doubt we get six entrants.

[naut]

yeah i'd say more like three. i'm definitely not entering. i'm about 90% done with a new song so i can't side-track myself considering how sporadic my attention is, and my work ethic.

everyone always gets pumped about a new competition, then as the days turn to weeks, we seem to get more excuse entries then musical entries. hey there's an idea, let's do a comp on who can come up with the best excuse for not entering a contest.

[EADGC]

Signups are now open

I'd like more entrants than 3 for sure. I tried to make the contest open to as many people as possible.